Boston Beatdown DVD...[views:18605][posts:102]________________________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 12:02am - coldnorthernvengeance ""] Anyone seen this? I heard it has some of the most violent footage ever caught on film. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 12:47am - the_reverend ""] I missed the premiere. At some point, I'm going to get it when I see them at a show. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 12:47am - 3rd_Knuckle ""] i've seen it; i think it's ridiculous. this shit is in part why the scene collapsed in the early 90's. the most violent footage ever caught on film? no way. is the scene about music or is it about beating people up? if it's the latter, go watch the wwf |
| _______________________________ [Jul 16,2004 12:55am - nick ""] it was ok, but didnt live up to the hype for me, was a little too short. theres some pretty funny stuff in there though. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 7:59am - tbone_r ""] i bought it. def not worth 20 bucks, i'll bring it w/ me to the converge/draw blood show if you wanna borrow it rev. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 10:40am - FrancisPman ""] yeah, maybe he can sleep over after the show. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 10:53am - TheGreatSpaldino ""] yeah.. and then we can all do eachother's hair and makeup!!1 it will be a cute and fun night!!!1 |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 10:56am - the_reverend ""] omg! that would be like so much fun. can we play girl talk? "aw.. the nerd. hey, he looks like milhouse" -- homer. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 16,2004 12:31pm - nick ""] FRANCIS PMAN, YES. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 1:01pm - FrancisPman ""] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 1:01pm - FrancisPman ""] fuck |
| _______________________________ [Jul 16,2004 1:04pm - jake ""] haha tom. YOU JUST GOT SERVED, FAGGOT. [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 1:27pm - the_reverend ""] if you click on it it works. ahaha |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 2:37pm - Ninkaszi ""] the dvd was pretty good. i got it for $12 and i'd say it's worth it. i thought it would be more violent though. the best scene is the two black kids getting their asses kicked outside the paradise. the ramallah footage, and the surgery was very cool. there is a great old clip of wrecking crew on the bonus footage as well. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 3:34pm - xmikex ""] i own volume 1, and i saw volume 2 at the big screen premiere. the concept is great, but i have to disagree with the way alot of it was arranged and edited. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 16,2004 3:41pm - honor4death ""] i just got it, its good but they show the same clips over and over again.... not really worth it. |
| _______________________________________________ [Jul 17,2004 6:59pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] I saw it... I weep for the future. There is one kid on there bitching about death metal saying it was all "dungeons and dragons" or something to that effect. Then he went on saying hardcore is so much better cuz it's reality and true. I could not help but notice how high strung and pissed off this dude looked. I thought he was going to start foaming at the mouth... For me personally metal is a form of escapism, too much reality makes life suck. Maybe this poor sap needs to figure that out. The guy that punched the old dude for trying to break the band up must have felt like a real man for knocking a 68 year old man on the ground. It must have sent his ego soaring through the roof knowing he was that tough... Who was the kid screaming how "not core" someone was at the end there. Next time scream a little a louder buddy I did'nt think you were getting enough attention from the little kids mesmerized by how "core" you were... Yup scream louder next time and maybe a cop will come and club yer fuckn knee caps in and do the world a favor... The only crew I ever needed was my buddies Smith and Wesson... Degeneration X sux a black cock... |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 17,2004 8:20pm - honor4death ""] we shouls start a metal crew and own all the hardcore kids that think metal is "fake" and core is "real" |
| _________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 12:15am - xmikex ""] honor4death said:we shouls start a metal crew and own all the hardcore kids that think metal is "fake" and core is "real" i thought metal kids were above being in crews, at least thats what so many of you have said.....EVEN THOUGH just about everyone in Suffocation is ThugSquad. Yes, you heard me correctly, members of one of the greatest death metal bands ever are affiliated with a hardcore "crew". I guess now you'll have to decide between not liking Suffocation, or maybe finding something else to complain about beside some hardcore kids you don't even know that have nothing to do with you. Of course metal is "fake". It's supposed to be. You didn't honestly think that Chris Barnes actually goes out and tortures and kills people did you? You didn't really think Devourment goes out and kills pregnant women. You didn't actually think Bruce Dickenson slays dragons or whatever. You don't really think Cradle of Filth are vampires. For christs sake, Nile isn't even from Egypt....they're from like North Carolina. It's supposed to be fake. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 12:17am - xmikex ""] please note: The "you" in my statement was meant to be a general you. Not anyone in peticular. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 18,2004 12:25am - nick ""] ive got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 12:56am - Pat Meebles ""] At least I've never heard suffocation yell about unity every 3 seconds during a set. |
| _______________________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 6:03am - coldnorthernvengeance ""] For me it's not fake... I actually slay dragons and other stuff.... |
| _______________________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 6:36am - coldnorthernvengeance ""] The "you" in your statement was directed at me. Now you must suffer the wrath of my black metal crew... Jus kidding, kill yourself... |
| _______________________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 7:10am - coldnorthernvengeance ""] Only occult is real... Only winter Isolationism is true... |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 10:23am - Joe/NotCommon ""] I am in a crew, the superfriends. We go in roves of 10-15 and team up on one high school emo kid at a time, in true south shore crew fashion. After the dozen or so of us manage to barely beat the one 15 year old emo kid, we brag about how tough we are on our own message board. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 12:16pm - xmikex ""] metal kids don't have crews. just fake white power rallys that never happen. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 12:55pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Phantom Limb holds white power rallies at every practice. |
| ________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 1:01pm - zing! ""] black metal crew meaning the KKK? coldnorthernvengeance said:The "you" in your statement was directed at me. Now you must suffer the wrath of my black metal crew... Jus kidding, kill yourself... |
| ____________________________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 1:08pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] you all lose because you care about music. |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 1:46pm - JellyFish ""] fighting is overated, music is underated. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 18,2004 3:24pm - hoser ""] zing! said:black metal crew meaning the KKK? coldnorthernvengeance said:The "you" in your statement was directed at me. Now you must suffer the wrath of my black metal crew... Jus kidding, kill yourself... yes....KKK...that's it....Black Metal is about hating them damn blacks....hahahaha |
| _________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 3:38pm - tbone_r ""] coldnorthernvengeance-"There is one kid on there bitching about death metal saying it was all "dungeons and dragons" or something to that effect.", "Who was the kid screaming how "not core" someone was at the end there..." that guy is Colin from Colin of Arabia. and i dare you to say what you just said on this message board to his face, cuz he is the toughest kid ever....yes, ever. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 6:23pm - Terence ""] Its funny how Colin says that about death metal but he sells some death metal at his store, and has posters of death metal bands hanging up also. In my opinion, hardcore and rap are like the same thing, gang mentality, a whole lot of violence...the list of comparisons could go on. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 7:28pm - ninkaszi187 ""] haha personally i thought that was pretty funny about the death metal comment. i wonder what made him say that though. isn't the drummer of TYAG in COA as well? plenty of nyc metal bands have ties to DMS as well. hc and metal can get along, it's not too hard. |
| _________________________________ [Jul 18,2004 10:33pm - xmikex ""] to really understand considerable portions of the video you really need to have been a part of the hardcore scene in boston over the last few years, at least in my opinion. I think alot of people who weren't are being left in the dark about some things. Should it be like that, or is that a production flaw? I'd like to see more people dicussing it as a documentary that it is (or is at least advertised as), rather than a peice of consumption junction footage. I think the video is still having problems breaking away from the girls-gone-wild-ish tendencies of volume I. It tends to rely too heavily on montages of things that look cool, rather than constructing a narrative. Wether you appreciate hardcore or not there's quite an interesting story to be told. The interviews with Nathan, and Baldwin, etc. are excellent, and tell a side of hardcore that most people don't know. It brings the video to the verge of making some really interesting points, but everything in between is just way too thin. Example: As much as I like seeing Dave Suture hit that kid it loses it's significance really fast when I have to keep looking at it without anything to elaborate on it. I dunno, just my thoughts as a film theory/videography nerd. we'll see what happens in volume 3. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 19,2004 12:00am - tbone_r ""] you should ask them if you can edit volume 3 |
| _______________________________________ [Jul 19,2004 11:48am - FrancisPman ""] you should ask them if you can get reamed for volume 3. |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 19,2004 12:02pm - RustedAngel ""] the guys in that video say that you won't get beat up as long as you don't do anything to deserve it... but at shows I've seen random people get punched and beaten up. a lot of the crap said is just hypocritical and sounds like they just want a reason to hurt people. gimme a fuckin break, there's no philosophy, reasoning behind any of this.. it's just fucking music. if I was ever involved in any of this shit, I would be sniping all these guys as they exited clubs with a PSG-1 and a Silencer, not fist fighting. call me a pussy, I call it being smart. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 19,2004 12:14pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] tbone_r said:coldnorthernvengeance-"There is one kid on there bitching about death metal saying it was all "dungeons and dragons" or something to that effect.", "Who was the kid screaming how "not core" someone was at the end there..." that guy is Colin from Colin of Arabia. and i dare you to say what you just said on this message board to his face, cuz he is the toughest kid ever....yes, ever. I met Colin once and he was telling me how he decimated the guy from back of tha neck, and it was the greatest story I ever heard. |
| _____________________________________ [Jul 19,2004 12:22pm - iamwiggins ""] i think thats in the movie |
| _________________________________ [Jul 19,2004 3:47pm - tbone_r ""] yeah, i heard he beat the shit out of the drummer (ex-eternal suffering) w/ a golf club. in the movie they only showed colin slapping him around and making fun of death metal |
| _________________________________ [Jul 19,2004 4:34pm - Terence ""] wow, this dvd sounds like an american classic. I'd rather watch Scooby Doo and the Monster's Island. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 28,2004 10:26pm - the_reverend ""] carina and I are watching it now. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 28,2004 11:12pm - luke ""] people definitely miss the point that this is actually supposed to be a documentary on boston hardcore. there's high points as well as low points in terms of the production, but again, as mike said, if you don't have a previous knowledge of whats going on, you probably don't get it. aaron, i'd really like to know what you think of it |
| __________________________________________ [Aug 29,2004 3:33am - BestialOnslaught ""] xmikex said:EVEN THOUGH just about everyone in Suffocation is ThugSquad. Yes, you heard me correctly, members of one of the greatest death metal bands ever are affiliated with a hardcore "crew". Let's be honest... SUFFOCATION was a decent but incredibly overrated DM band... |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 29,2004 4:34pm - Dick_Bloodeye ""] About Colin's death metal comment, I think it's aimed more at black metal type bands like iced earth and opeth that actually have dungeons and dragons type lyrics. Saying he has a drummer from tyag isn't really a valid point because they don't have lyrics that would make you think 'they sit in thier basement and play dungeons and dragons'. They do make it sound as if no unecessary violence goes down, with exceptions like 'unchecked male aggression' and in Colin's interview he does say 'some people go over the line' but for the most part these people that do that are just pricks. I know a handfull of them and spend the majority of thier time looking for useless fights, even here. The DVD all in all was good. definately worth the money. definately what you'd expect. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 29,2004 4:45pm - Jellyfish ""] Opeth dosent have any lyrics about dungeons and dragons. Moron. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 29,2004 4:50pm - Dick_Bloodeye ""] I would say thier lyrics and writing style are heavily influenced by medival themes and dungeons and dragons type topics. study them. moron. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2004 5:27pm - honor4death ""] last time i checked iced earth and opeth weren't black metal type bands.. or else they would suck. ass clown |