Boston Beatdown DVD...[views:18596][posts:102]___________________________________ [Aug 29,2004 5:32pm - Jellyfish ""] I dont need to study them, I know them. I dont know about Iced Earth, but Opeths lyrics are very nature inspired (under the weeping moon, black rose immortal, night and the silent water etc.) and despair (face of melinda, in my time of need, harvest, weakness etc etc etc) Sorry i called you a moron but you are so wrong. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 29,2004 5:52pm - Dick_Bloodeye ""] you probably know more about them than I do, but the few lines that I do know (i'll use 'walking through the enchanted forest' as an example) dungeons and dragons/ medival themes come to mind. I may be misinterpereting them though. |
| __________________________________________ [Aug 29,2004 6:11pm - BestialOnslaught ""] Hmmm... I stopped paying attention to this guy when he said ICED EARTH and OPETH were Black Metal... |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 29,2004 6:53pm - RustedAngel ""] colin's comment was annoying either way... |
| __________________________________________ [Aug 29,2004 6:55pm - intricateprocess ""] shouldnt everyone be doing something better like building a bombshelter for when we get attacked by nuclear warheads |
| ________________________________ [Aug 30,2004 2:33pm - xmikex ""] Dick_Bloodeye said:About Colin's death metal comment, anyone who had been in the hardcore "scene" in bosotn in the past few years knew what it was about. anyone who wasnt has no place talking about/speculating on it. like i've said before, and i'll say again: if you were there, you'd get this documentary. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 30,2004 5:10pm - tbone_r ""] but mike, aren't documentaries supposed to teach people about the subject they cover? |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 30,2004 5:52pm - RustedAngel ""] I don't think it takes much to understand why a fight at a show is happening. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 30,2004 8:01pm - Paul FOD ""] "making fun of death metal" give me a fucking break like hardcore is cool? Fuck that. Making fun of death metal = you cant handle death metal. Stupid shit hardcore is lame you go to a show worrying about getting beat up and its fucking true. Boston beatdown isnt a documentary its just certain people trying to get more popular by "shocking" The nation with bullshit that ive seen on cops and various fox tv shows. Fuck hardcore and crews are gay as hell. There is nothing "real" about "hardcore" |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 30,2004 8:50pm - RustedAngel ""] yeah, sometimes it feels like you're watching real TV, only at places nearby and people I know in it.... If this video wasn't just for shock value do you really think the GGW people would be interested in capitalizing on 'boston beatdown' by giving them camera's and shit. I love the speech at the beginning it's so funny cause he looks like a terrorist. Maybe those al queda videos were made in boston? It's funny how they beat up stupid dance club ricky martin guys. |
| __________________________________ [Aug 30,2004 11:14pm - tbone_r ""] paul fod hates hardcore...the truth is out |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 30,2004 11:19pm - RustedAngel ""] hahahh |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 30,2004 11:48pm - Paul FOD ""] Truth? hah i dont hate hardcore I just like metal so much more always have always will. I mean most of the hardcore bands out there that people like are influenced in someway by metal. Terence made the most valid point hardcore is exactly like rap. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 30,2004 11:51pm - Paul FOD ""] woops. So yeah hardcore is like rap you've got crews, a bunch of bands that miss spell words to look "thug". Not to mention They always have to prove shit lol other hardcore bands and "Crews" fight each other. They are like the poor mans version of some LA gang. If people learned to chill out and have a good time maybe hardcore would be "real" |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 31,2004 4:04am - hooligan ""] BBD sucks... FSU is a bunch of glorified low lifes. Keep hardcore out of metal!!!! |
| ________________________________ [Aug 31,2004 8:30pm - xmikex ""] tbone_r said:but mike, aren't documentaries supposed to teach people about the subject they cover? supposed to. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 31,2004 8:35pm - xmikex ""] there are worse things in hardcore than "crews" [img] |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 31,2004 9:55pm - Paul FOD ""] hahahah! my thoughts exactly mike |
| _________________________________ [Sep 1,2004 12:57am - tbone_r ""] yeah, i agree. guitars suck |
| ______________________________ [Sep 1,2004 12:57am - nick ""] ^weak. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 1,2004 1:10am - xmikex ""] ^seconded. |
| ______________________________________________ [Sep 1,2004 1:13am - coldnorthernvengeance ""] Is that 2 black eyes he's got or emo make up? |
| ______________________________ [Sep 1,2004 2:32am - yeah ""] haha what fucking band is that |
| __________________________________ [Sep 1,2004 2:39pm - hooligan ""] bet he sucks a mean dick... |
| _______________________________ [Sep 1,2004 3:12pm - xmikex ""] coldnorthernvengeance said:Is that 2 black eyes he's got or emo make up? black eyes. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 1,2004 5:07pm - heimdall ""] ""About Colin's death metal comment, I think it's aimed more at black metal type bands like iced earth and opeth that actually have dungeons and dragons type lyrics. " bahahhahhah who is this fuck elt me telll him that he knows shit about metal, black metal?????????dungeons and dragons?????? my saying is that any metla band would own hardcore I mean come on we have swords and maces and battle axes and they have brass knuckles??? |
| __________________________________ [Sep 1,2004 5:44pm - snakefist ""] all crew kids are weak scared jackasses that need many friends to back them up in a fight. im a metal man all the way, and if i feel the need to fight ill do it by myself with as many foes as there may be, i dont need 8 friends from my high school football team to back me up. if i go down, at least i have honor, unlike crew kids who scream and cry about honor all day, but there is no honor in a 6 on 1 fight. |
| ________________________________ [Sep 1,2004 6:20pm - tbone_r ""] you must have honor, you used it 3 times in your last sentence |
| _______________________________ [Sep 2,2004 7:10pm - xmikex ""] snakes don't have fists. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 2,2004 7:11pm - ASSUCK ""] or do they? |
| _____________________________ [Sep 2,2004 9:52pm - nick ""] snakes are great. [img] |
| ________________________________ [Sep 3,2004 12:53am - xmikex ""] [img] [img] ***hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss*** |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 3,2004 8:43am - TheGreatSpaldino ""] Chris Barnes said:SNAKES! |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 3,2004 11:21am - BestialOnslaught ""] I don't think making broad generalizations about a genre of music can be justified by saying "You weren't part of the scene then, you didn't know how it was"... That's total bullshit. Colin's Death Metal comment was stupid. But he does seem pretty reasonable in the interview with him in the bonus footage (though it seems he's kinda contradicting it in the 2 fights I noticed him in hehe... but I don't know the full circumstances there). I'm not saying crucify the guy for making one ignorant comment in passing... But you can't sit here and complain about people stereotyping Hardcore fans as thugs if you're gonna bash other genres baselessly. Heh, I guess that's sort of directed at xmikex but indirectly in argument with the overall message of the video, since there is criticism of how FSU were stereotyped as jocks by people in the hardcore scene and losers by society. Even were I not into Metal, I would see bashing of Metal by people in Hardcore as counterproductive to their own arguments, weakening the conviction behind their message with the double standard. I mean, they can't even make a DVD without including one insulting comment about Death Metal haha... And I'm sure Colin's not the only one voicing these feelings even though a lot of these guys and their friends are Metalheads to one degree or another. Anyway... even if some kid in a cheesy Death Metal band was a dork who sat in his basement playing D&D every weekend, I don't see how that makes him an enemy of the Hardcore scene or something... I also fail to see how fashioncore kids, as gay and ignorant as they may are ruining the Hardcore scene. Granted they are tarnishing its name to some extent, but that's inevitable in all genres... And when's the last time a venue closed down cause of them? Anyway, I'm not saying I'm above making fun of shitty music and people with bad style for shits and giggles, but I guess the main point is that it's predictable and unfortunate that there's all this back and forth bashing between different subcultures, cause it distracts from things in the big picture that we should maybe be devoting our energy to instead... making music for starters. |
| _________________________________ [Sep 3,2004 12:20pm - tbone_r ""] once you threw in that 'hehe' i stopped reading |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 7:21am - anonymous ""] Next time I'll try not to be so amused with myself... .... douche. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 7:27am - BestialOnslaught ""] That was me |
| ____________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 11:05am - anonymous ""] metal= playing songs about violence & hate hardcore=carrying out violence & promoting hate |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 11:33am - BestialOnslaught ""] Hmmm, and here I was thinking it was music... and that 1/2 the songs were about unity... |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 1:06pm - anonymous ""] 1/2? wow... sorry (lol) ok so what are the other half about then? and what does 'unity' mean in hardcore? unity in their scene! so maybe even the unity songs are about violence and hate too: if you don't like their about, or are considered by them to be uncool, weak, different from them... you'll get beat up. how cool!! |
| _______________________________ [Sep 4,2004 2:54pm - xmikex ""] why don't you knobs ever listen to me. seriously, none of you understood this at all. you missed the point by about 4,000 miles. if the point was in brockton you'd all be in Guam. stop discussing things you don't understand, all of you. |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 3:35pm - BornSoVile ""] where can i buy this dvd? |
| ________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 5:06pm - tbone_r ""] mission sells it |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 8:05pm - BestialOnslaught ""] xmikex said:why don't you knobs ever listen to me. seriously, none of you understood this at all. you missed the point by about 4,000 miles. if the point was in brockton you'd all be in Guam. stop discussing things you don't understand, all of you. As far as I could tell, you didn't have any point. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 8:16pm - intricateprocess ""] SNAKESSSSSSSSSSSS |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 8:19pm - BestialOnslaught ""] Oh, other than "It's ok to make blanket statements about entire musical genres and their fans if you were part of the Boston HC scene of the 90's, but anyone else who does just doesn't understand." |
| ________________________________ [Sep 4,2004 11:14pm - xmikex ""] no you dolt, the point of BBD....you missed the point of what was said on boston beatdown. and thats not even close to what i said. i never condoned or rejected anything that was said on the dvd. good job putting words in my mouth. jesus christ. you kids are gonna give me a fucking stroke. im done with this thread. i'll leave you goons to your uninformed soap box yelling douchebaggery. |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 5,2004 12:17am - Joe/NotCommon ""] You still haven't made a point. Does it embarass you when you try to come across as intelligent and witty, but always the opposite occurs? |
| ______________________________________________ [Sep 5,2004 6:42am - coldnorthernvengeance ""] When I go to metal shows no one is concerned about showing off their latest kung fu move... I could give a flying flip flopped fuck about this whole joke of a scene.... Metal forever... |
| __________________________________________ [Sep 6,2004 11:14am - BestialOnslaught ""] xmikex said:Dick_Bloodeye said:About Colin's death metal comment, anyone who had been in the hardcore "scene" in bosotn in the past few years knew what it was about. anyone who wasnt has no place talking about/speculating on it. Hmmm it looks like right here you're endorsing Colin's comment... End of argument. |