Good news for some of you[views:8052][posts:103]________________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 11:23am - Joe/NotCommon ""] I talked to Shred and he said I can get more shows in the future at O'Brien's Pub, though I will still attempt to book at more and more venues all over eastern Massachusetts.. I have some other ideas that I have been sharing with people I've talked to since I heard about the Block closing, and though that is still by far my favorite club ever, I promised that I will continue to block metalcore at every turn. So to sum this all up: BOOYA! |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 11:24am - baneofexistence ""] cool |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 11:30am - the_reverend ""] caveat: "metalcore" being defined arbitrarily. bands that joe likes = not metalcore. bands that joe doesn't like = metalcore. since Kevorkians Angels are influenced by 80's metal-core |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 11:34am - dirteecrayon ""] "good news for some of you" ??? why isn't good news for everyone stop being immature |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 11:35am - Josh_Martin ""] There was no metalcore in the 80's. There was crossover. DRI, SOD, and the Accused have nothing to do with gay shit like the Dillenger Escape Plan and Converge. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 11:37am - RustedAngel ""] dillinger escape plan is not metalcore. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 11:43am - dirteecrayon ""] can someone please define metalcore? |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 11:47am - dirteecrayon ""] http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Metalcore Spawned sometime during the 90's, metalcore is as the name divulges a more metallic offshoot of classic hardcore punk, in particular the kind made popular during the 80's by bands such as Minor Threat, the Bad Brains and so on. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 11:52am - dreadkill ""] when i think of real hardcore, i think of sick of it all and bands like that. more punk than metal. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:00pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] dirteecrayon said:"good news for some of you" ??? why isn't good news for everyone stop being immature Because some bands don't like me and some bands i dont like. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:06pm - dirteecrayon ""] be the bigger person! writing threads like that just makes people hate you even more have you tried figuring out why some bands don't like you? |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:07pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Josh is correct, cross-over stuff is not the same as the metalcore genre. If I am wrong about what I consider metalcore, then most people I know are just as wrong as me, and all of it sucks. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:07pm - dreadkill ""] the bands who don't like joe are probably the metalcore bands who suck up to everyone on the waaf boards. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:08pm - dreadkill ""] and by metalcore, i don't mean crossover, i mean the stuff that is popular now and the nu metal bands who are crossing over to it. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:08pm - the_reverend ""] Josh_Martin said:There was no metalcore in the 80's. There was crossover. DRI, SOD, and the Accused have nothing to do with gay shit like the Dillenger Escape Plan and Converge. the accused are genrified as metal-core. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:09pm - dirteecrayon ""] banning bands from playing in boston?!?!? doing shit like that will just make more people hate you and start boycotting your shows |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:10pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Cross over nu-metal/metalcore is the worst shit out there. And I do think I know why bands hate me, because I don't kiss up to everyone that I don't like and I speak my mind regardless of who might hear it (or read it). I am not going to cater to bands I want nothing to do with, so let them hate me. |
| __________________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:25pm - kellthevalkyrie ""] Excellent. That's good news, Joe. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:26pm - whiskey, weed, and women ""] can you feel the love...? |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:27pm - the_reverend ""] I need to change all the hardcore vs metal things to hardcore&metal vs. metalcore. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:30pm - RustedAngel ""] cross over nu-metal/metalcore????? |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:33pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] the_reverend said:I need to change all the hardcore vs metal things to hardcore&metal vs. metalcore. (hardcore vs hardcore) vs metal vs metalcore vs emo vs indie rock vs punk = the boston music scene |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:36pm - Josh_Martin ""] RustedAngel said:dillinger escape plan is not metalcore. Fine, faggotcore then. They're not heavy enough to be metal, they're not fast enough to be grind, they're sure as fuck not hardcore. They look like a bunch of emo nerds. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:36pm - dirteecrayon ""] = everything joe doesn't like |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:37pm - the_reverend ""] DEP = mathcore, no? |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:39pm - dirteecrayon ""] i always thought they were math core cuz of all those jazz times and stuff |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:39pm - swamplorddvm ""] BOOYA! |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:39pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] dirteecrayon said:= everything joe doesn't like The number of bands I like definately outweights the number of bands I do not like. Where does everyone get these ideas from that I hate everything? |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:40pm - Josh_Martin ""] dirteecrayon said:http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Metalcore Spawned sometime during the 90's, metalcore is as the name divulges a more metallic offshoot of classic hardcore punk, in particular the kind made popular during the 80's by bands such as Minor Threat, the Bad Brains and so on. I call bullshit on that definition. No metalcore band sounds anything at all like Minor Threat or Bad Brains (Bad Brains when they were good anyways, I don't really like anything after Rock for Light. If you want to go around saying you're very influenced by Quickness I'll point you in the general direction of the Ramrod) |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:41pm - Josh_Martin ""] the_reverend said:Josh_Martin said:There was no metalcore in the 80's. There was crossover. DRI, SOD, and the Accused have nothing to do with gay shit like the Dillenger Escape Plan and Converge. the accused are genrified as metal-core. Says who? |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:44pm - the_reverend ""] Josh_Martin said:Says who? says: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...0-0104014?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:45pm - the_reverend ""] I also think the minor threat/bad brains metalcore thing is bullshit. minor threat was straightedge or postpunk. bad brains is also catagorized as "postpunk" with hardcore, raggae, and ska influences... but I just call them f'n good |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:47pm - RichHorror ""] Jerry's Kids set last night forces every metalcore band in the world to stop using the "core" suffix. Holy shit, awesome. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 12:52pm - dirteecrayon ""] i also dont agree with the deinitions on that site the other definitions are kind of wanky too |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:00pm - Josh_Martin ""] the_reverend said:Josh_Martin said:Says who? says: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...0-0104014?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 Did you read the reviews on that page? Calling the Accused metalcore isn't the only mistake in that book. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:01pm - RustedAngel ""] Josh_Martin said:RustedAngel said:dillinger escape plan is not metalcore. Fine, faggotcore then. They're not heavy enough to be metal, they're not fast enough to be grind, they're sure as fuck not hardcore. They look like a bunch of emo nerds. if you're into grind/fast/heavy shit, how could you not like dillinger's 'calculating infinity'? all those elements are clearly in there. If you were bashing shit like Atreyu, ect, then I might agree with you. interesting, I didn't know wearing a black shirt and black pants was emo? I guess all metal kids are emo as well... or is he emo because the clothes he wears actually fit him and are not 4x too big? [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:03pm - RustedAngel ""] 3XXXL Iced Earth Shirt = Tr00 Metal. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:05pm - Josh_Martin ""] It's the haircut. And they wear those gas station attendant jackets even though they don't work at a gas station. That bugs the shit out of me. I like grind that sounds like Scum. DEP sound like a bunch of Berklee fags who decided to play grind. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:07pm - the_reverend ""] so... you are opposed mostly to fashion and not to music. though your DEP "review" is pretty acurate.. if you also say "and on the new record try to sound like mr. bungle meets NIN" |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:08pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] DES is metalcore, the same old boring shit played in annoying time sequences. EMO: [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:09pm - Josh_Martin ""] I am opposed to people ironically dressing like they work at a gas station. I haven't heard the new DEP and I hope I never have to. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:10pm - RustedAngel ""] so what, I don't blame them for not wanting long hair, it's a pain in the fuckin ass. Sometimes I wonder why I still have it. hahaha. Nah, I just don't like how I look with short hair. you say someones a fag cause they were a 'gas station' jacket? wtf? Maybe they don't want to sound like scum grind... I bet the bands that play 'scum' grind couldn't keep up with DEP if they tried. Either way, they aren't fags just because they don't wear gigantic metal shirts and have long hair. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:11pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] They are metalcore. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:12pm - RustedAngel ""] DEP doesn't have any generic breakdowns, so how can they be classified as metalcore? I don't hear any melodic in flames riffs either. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:12pm - Josh_Martin ""] RustedAngel said:so what, I don't blame them for not wanting long hair, it's a pain in the fuckin ass. Sometimes I wonder why I still have it. hahaha. Nah, I just don't like how I look with short hair. you say someones a fag cause they were a 'gas station' jacket? wtf? Maybe they don't want to sound like scum grind... I bet the bands that play 'scum' grind couldn't keep up with DEP if they tried. Either way, they aren't fags just because they don't wear gigantic metal shirts and have long hair. Why would anyone want to keep up with music that sounds gay? You're right about why they're not fags. However you seem to be completely missing the point about why they are fags. |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:13pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] We could argue about genre classifying them all day, but they suck and I cannot waste my time. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:14pm - Josh_Martin ""] Just look at Joe's picture. If that doesn't scream "plug my ass with an emo cork before all the faggotry leaks out of me" I don't know what does. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:14pm - Terence ""] I'm looking for a fight. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:15pm - Josh_Martin ""] Espcecially the guy on the right. Aren't they from New Jersey? I wonder how many times he's been gay bashed. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2004 1:17pm - Josh_Martin ""] Joe/NotCommon said:We could argue about genre classifying them all day, but they suck and I cannot waste my time. Unfortunately, I have tons of time to waste. Calling bands gay at work is more fun than actually working. |