News article: North Korea threatens Nuclear war
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[Jul 3,2006 4:53pm - Scoracrasia ""]
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/07/03/north.korea.ap/index.html
[Jul 3,2006 5:27pm - hungtableed ""]
sick. I'm definitely signing up now because then I'd not only get to kill hajji but charlie too.
[Jul 3,2006 5:35pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
They love to flap their gums, but if it came down to it, USA vs. N. Korea would be like Hurricane Katrina vs. a dragonfly.
[Jul 3,2006 5:44pm - PatMeebles ""]
well, hurricanes have more stomach to carry out a mission successfully than americans do.
[Jul 3,2006 5:46pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
heheh. well, the article is just propaganda, but i like how they act as if they would survive our pre-emptive strike to take nuclear action.
[Jul 3,2006 8:43pm - Dankill ""]
Again?
[Jul 4,2006 9:52pm - thrash nigger ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:They love to flap their gums, but if it came down to it, USA vs. N. Korea would be like Hurricane Katrina vs. a dragonfly.
well the u.s. a vs. iraq is not going that well what makes you think we will fair any better vs nhk
[Jul 4,2006 10:00pm - hoser ""]
thrash nigger said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:They love to flap their gums, but if it came down to it, USA vs. N. Korea would be like Hurricane Katrina vs. a dragonfly.
well the u.s. a vs. iraq is not going that well what makes you think we will fair any better vs nhk
Nuclear wise? Are you kidding me? We would vaporize that whole continent before they could take their last piss!!
[Jul 4,2006 10:01pm - hoser ""]
hoser said:thrash nigger said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:They love to flap their gums, but if it came down to it, USA vs. N. Korea would be like Hurricane Katrina vs. a dragonfly.
well the u.s. a vs. iraq is not going that well what makes you think we will fair any better vs nhk
Nuclear wise? Are you kidding me? We would vaporize that whole continent before they could take their last piss!!
Wish we could do that with the fucking Jihadi sand niggers. One nuke and the world would be free of these jihadi religious zealots.
[Jul 4,2006 10:06pm - MikePile ""]
hoser said:
Wish we could do that with the fucking Jihadi sand niggers. One nuke and the world would be free of these jihadi religious zealots.
Yeah, just one nuke. It sure is convienent that all jihadists congregated into the area roughly the size of ground zero. Thanks a million, fellas!
[Jul 4,2006 10:10pm - hoser ""]
But again, that's just my stupid opinion.
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[Jul 4,2006 10:11pm - powerkok ""]
huh?
Im confused by the last post.
War with China would suck, big time.
Yes, I said China.
If we go to war with N.Korea, China will be involved.
[Jul 4,2006 10:11pm - Dankill ""]
North Korea would be a straight conventional war. China would not likely want to get involved this time, seeing as their leadership is less of hardline commies, like NK is and was 50 years ago. With our military, South Korea and a sizeable chuck of the UN (They will get involved because the nuclear power shooting at people is dangerous to them too. They know that. If China does not add them, the short term would be destructive to South Korea with the first strike of thousands of artillery and ground to ground missle on Seoul and other population centers that they are aimed at, at all times. Then their gas, electrity, food and finally ammo would run out and they would lose. Aside from the fact that as Hoser said, if they launched a nuke, we would nuke the whole country with only a small bit of our nuclear weapon arsenal, from either home based silos or our nuclear subs.
If the American people had a clear, present danger with a face on it and a target that no one could argue about that atacked them or a close ally and was seen as a threat, you would see unquestioned support and lines at recruting stations. Iraq is a totally different ballgame in terms of semetrical and asemetrical warfare.
[Jul 4,2006 10:11pm - powerkok ""]
ooops....not hosers post, but Mike Piles'
[Jul 4,2006 10:14pm - powerkok ""]
China would definitely get involved.
Maybe only as far as supplying weapons, ordnance, and possibly military, but they WILL help one of their biggest allies/importer/exporting countries.
[Jul 4,2006 10:16pm - powerkok ""]
AND.....
As much as I hate some of you assholes', sometimes....
I'd REALLY hate to see you you all get obliterated.
Well, save a few.
[Jul 4,2006 10:16pm - hoser ""]
Same thing that they did in 1950. Remember the Chosin?
[Jul 4,2006 10:17pm - powerkok ""]
china/cuba.
Another interesting connected faction to look out for.
[Jul 4,2006 10:18pm - powerkok ""]
phillipines
Sudan
Yemen
Mexico even.
[Jul 4,2006 10:18pm - hoser ""]
Ahhhhh....Cuba wouldn't worry me a bit.....despite Red Dawn. China and Korea on the other hand could pose a massive reduction in our troops / supplies. I might end up going back if that happens.
[Jul 4,2006 10:35pm - hungtableed ""]
I'm totally signing up to go kill people. As long as we are at war with people who have darker skin than us and/or oil I have no problem fighting.
[Jul 4,2006 11:03pm - Dankill ""]
Dude, we along with other Euro and Asian countries and now some Arab and South American countries are bigger trade partners then North Korea. They have dick for money then any of the other nations China trades with. North Korea has just been China's rabid pitbull on a chain at their doorstep. China doesn't want it and coul put it down anytime, but keeps it there to keep it's neighbors nervious and allow them to be the voice of reason everyone would be forced to come t in order to deal with them. HOWEVER, if that dog should break loose of it's chain and go nuts, China will have no choice but to put it down. If you are an emerging possible super power and economic power house, are you goingto flush your trade contracts worth billions and alliences and any trust you have with the free world to support a poor, loose cannon nation with nuclear weapons that will one way or the other lose their fight, or will you let it happen and then look like the responsible good guy and help it happen and then help with the rebuilding/reunification of Korea, while not sending your country back over fourty years on the world stage and watching your economy take a massive plunge?
China would be nuts to back North Korea if they flew off the handle. They would lose so much that they've strived for years to gain in doing so.
[Jul 4,2006 11:16pm - powerkok ""]
ya true....especially now, that they dont have shit!
(see other post)
[Jul 5,2006 10:07am - Man_of_the_Century ""]
China has already told N. Korea to stop with the testing as well. So, in other words, they told them they are on thier own if they keep up with the testing.
[Jul 5,2006 12:33pm - hungtableed ""]
N. korea is so poor because that asshole spends their $$$money$$$ on bombs they don't need, that's why they eat cats and dogs.
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We dun naaht haave weapon of mass destrukshun, Haans Brix!!
[Jul 5,2006 1:23pm - Man_of_the_Century ""]
From the UN meeting this morning:
After a morning meeting of the U.N. Security Council, U.S. Ambassador John Bolton said, "No member defended what the North Koreans had done."
They're on thier one with this one...
[Jul 5,2006 2:03pm - xmikex ""]
it's a wonder the rest of the world doesn't get on North Korea like they do America. When was the last time Canada had to increase its missle defense system because of something America did?
[Jul 5,2006 2:27pm - the_reverend ""]
oh canada's sneaky... they are planning a lot and the test are covert. not overt.
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[Jul 6,2006 12:33am - anonymous ""]
N. Korea is incompetant. Their missle plunged into the Ocean of Japan minutes after take off. Much like the Chinese they are only as powerful as what they can steal from other countries. I.E Chinas stolen nuclear secrets from Los Alamos during the Clinton regime. N. Korea is a non issue.
[Jul 6,2006 12:53am - powerkok ""]
Good point about only having tech they can steal....
I cant say Clinton and Regime in the same sentence, it's an oxymoron.
[Jul 6,2006 1:07am - BornSoVile ""]
Is it safe to say that N. Korea is more advanced with Nuclear technology than Iran?
[Jul 6,2006 7:55am - Man_of_the_Century ""]
BornSoVile said:Is it safe to say that N. Korea is more advanced with Nuclear technology than Iran?
I'd say so, at least N. Korea has missles to test.
[Jul 6,2006 10:44am - ShadowSD ""]
North Korea's is definitely way more advanced than Iran, which is one reason I've been more concerned about them than others in recent years. After all, the Iraq WMD claims were proven fictional to anyone dumb enough to believe them in the first place, and even in the midst of all this concern about Iran, the truth is that their ruling mullahs are surprisingly stable as fanatics go when it comes to the self-preservation of their own lives and billions of dollars. But North Korea always seemed more of a loose cannon with nothing to lose.
However, after these recent events, I am glad to reassure all of you that North Korea striking us with nuclear weapons is next to impossible. Not because of their technology, or missiles falling in the sea (their technology is on its way and will eventually leap those hurdles), but because they have clearly demonstrated their intent by their timing.
If North Korea had started this shit in 2003, or 2004, or 2005, that would have been one thing; it would be a tactical attempt to exploit the lack of US forces available due to the Iraq war. But when did they wait until? They waited until just a few months ago, after seeing Iran score huge points against the US for standing up to them in regards to nuclear development. Iran's goverment has a sweet deal; everytime they want to raise oil prices, they say something controversial, and it works just like a magic wand. In addition, they look like they're standing up to the bully, and raise their profile to a major international player. Everyday that passes, they benefit more on all these fronts.
North Korea sees this, and decides they want to play the same game. The good news for us is that the game only continues to work if there is never a nuclear strike. The bad news... well, markets reacted to the missile test by going down, except oil of course, which went up due to fears that the Asian oil supply might be interrupted. It's the Iran effect all over again, and once again, we seem powerless to stop it.
Ultimately, the real nuclear threat have been and always will be independent groups that owe allegiance to no goverment. No third world country is going to risk hitting us hard, it's much safer to bleed us gradually. After all, why should a maggot buzz around and risk being swatted when he's quietly draining the whole supply undetected?
[Jul 6,2006 11:12am - Man_of_the_Century ""]
ShadowSD said:After all, the Iraq WMD claims were proven fictional to anyone dumb enough to believe them in the first place,
Thats a little out there... They have had them in the past, so it wasn't that far off that they still had them. I still say they had them up till the whole confrontation started then did one of three things: 1) Sold them. 2) Hid them real well. 3)Destroyed them. Also, there is no proof that they were never there, just they are not there now.
Nuclear war is a very far fetched. If one country shoots one off, every country will shoot thiers off. Nobody will win and everyone knows it. So, everyone wants them for show. "Hey, look at us. We have nukes. We're big boys now."
[Jul 6,2006 12:02pm - ShadowSD ""]
Man_of_the_Century said:ShadowSD said:After all, the Iraq WMD claims were proven fictional to anyone dumb enough to believe them in the first place,
Thats a little out there... They have had them in the past, so it wasn't that far off that they still had them. I still say they had them up till the whole confrontation started then did one of three things: 1) Sold them. 2) Hid them real well. 3)Destroyed them. Also, there is no proof that they were never there, just they are not there now.
I thought it ridiculous when first suggested that Iraq had WMD's, I found it to be the biggest crock of shit considering what I knew about the country. Now that there are none to be found, I'm supposed to see that not as evidence that I was correct, but as a serendipitous coincidence. Well, I might be able to buy that had Cheney not written pre-9/11 arguments about setting up permanent military bases in Iraq to an guarantee their oil supply. I might be able to buy it if Colin Powell didn't recently say that making the Iraq WMD arguments in front of the UN was the lowest point of his career. And I might be able to buy it if it were not for enough deceit and outright lies from this administration to fill up this whole North Korea thread and kill it with off-topic ramblings.
Man_of_the_Century said:Nuclear war is a very far fetched. If one country shoots one off, every country will shoot thiers off. Nobody will win and everyone knows it. So, everyone wants them for show. "Hey, look at us. We have nukes. We're big boys now."
Exactly right.
[Jul 6,2006 12:13pm - anonymous ""]
Am I the only person to read the articles that were streaming around in the last few weeks. They stated that US forces did in fact find WMD's... they found near depleted chemical weapons inside old missiles. They were pretty much useless due to age, but it still show's that they never got rid of the ones they were building to destroy Isreal. They werent the WMD's we were looking for, but they still had them.
[Jul 6,2006 12:15pm - anonymous ""]
ShadowSD said:Man_of_the_Century said:ShadowSD
Man_of_the_Century said:Nuclear war is a very far fetched. If one country shoots one off, every country will shoot thiers off. Nobody will win and everyone knows it. So, everyone wants them for show. "Hey, look at us. We have nukes. We're big boys now."
Exactly right.
Suicide bombers seem like a far fetched thing also. If your foolish enough to beleive there isn't crazy fucks in the world who could care less about total destruction of the Earth then you don't know about true fanaticism.
[Jul 6,2006 12:18pm - retzam ""]
Man_of_the_Century said:Nuclear war is a very far fetched. If one country shoots one off, every country will shoot thiers off. Nobody will win and everyone knows it. So, everyone wants them for show. "Hey, look at us. We have nukes. We're big boys now."
This is of course true, but that's what the problem with nukes is. We all have guns to each other's heads. All it takes is one maniac actually using one of these atrocities to mankind and we're all gonna pull the trigger. Most of me believes that this will in fact happen, probably within the next 50 - 100 years, and will destroy the "civilized race" (haha) that has been built up over the past thousands of years. I just hope if it happens, or when it happens, it gets everyone so our planet finally gets to have some humanless peace.
[Jul 6,2006 12:40pm - Yeti ""]
i hope it sparks the zombie apocalypse
[Jul 6,2006 12:43pm - sever ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:They love to flap their gums, but if it came down to it, USA vs. N. Korea would be like Hurricane Katrina vs. a dragonfly.
No, it would in fact be one of the most bloody wars in recent years.
Even if we're the ones inciting a war against the North, the North will invade the South no question. The North would storm the South with commandos and start a large scale strategic assault from behind the front lines. They would then launch artillery and missles, and cross the border as a full scale attack with almost all of their troops (a million plus). You know what? We have 27,000 troops on the border. They would be stuck in the middle of this entire thing. And the terrain is forrested, mountainous and hilly, which in short means anyone being attacked by infantry has an incredibly slim chance of winning against them. And If there are engagements in the urban areas, everyone gets fucked over. Another Korean war would almost definately mean a draft.
[Jul 6,2006 12:44pm - ShadowSD ""]
anonymous said:Am I the only person to read the articles that were streaming around in the last few weeks. They stated that US forces did in fact find WMD's... they found near depleted chemical weapons inside old missiles. They were pretty much useless due to age, but it still show's that they never got rid of the ones they were building to destroy Isreal. They werent the WMD's we were looking for, but they still had them.
This was a PR stunt by Rick Santorum about two weeks ago. He was referring to an old discovery of nothing, chemical weapons that were destroyed in the 90's and the remnants of which troops found two years ago. Trying to revive the story and misrepresent it for an election year is just reprehensible. Fortunately, for once in this decade voters are paying attention, and incumbent senator Santorum is trailing his challenger by double digits. That's why after an initial PR blitz by Santorum and Fox News, the story disappeared as quickly as it appeared.
[Jul 6,2006 1:07pm - ShadowSD ""]
anonymous said:Suicide bombers seem like a far fetched thing also. If your foolish enough to beleive there isn't crazy fucks in the world who could care less about total destruction of the Earth then you don't know about true fanaticism.
Our point is that true suicidal fanatics don't run governments, they blow them up. It's the action of someone with nothing to lose. Therefore, the terrorist with the nuclear weapon is more of a threat than the government with one.
You just have to consider the variable of self-preservation, of which there are many different degrees. Even Bin Laden - who IS a terrorist with no home to destroy, no sovereign interests to protect, and no way of being located on a map and targeted like a goverment leader - will send others to die instead of himself to preserve his own image as an uncatchable jihadist for the strength of his movement. Now think of the leader of a country, who has all those other liabilities, and is useless as a martyr. It quicly becomes clear that it is the terrorist, if anyone, who will re-open the Pandora's Box of nuclear warfare.
[Jul 6,2006 1:13pm - Man_of_the_Century ""]
anonymous said:Suicide bombers seem like a far fetched thing also. If your foolish enough to beleive there isn't crazy fucks in the world who could care less about total destruction of the Earth then you don't know about true fanaticism.
They may have seemed far fetched when it had never happened before, but it has hundreds of times over. Also, your trying to compare a bomb that takes out a few city blocks to a bomd that would level an entire city. You level a city and someone is going to level one right back.
And you need to stop living in the movies. There isn't anyone in the world with any real power that wants the world destroyed. There are people out there that want contries wiped off the planet (like North Korea), but they are not dumb enough to attempt a nuclear strike. Once they send one off thier entire country would be leveled at the push of a button, and they know it.
[Jul 6,2006 3:06pm - sacreligion ""]
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[Jul 6,2006 6:44pm - ShadowSD ""]
ShadowSD said:I am glad to reassure all of you that North Korea striking us with nuclear weapons is next to impossible... They waited until just a few months ago, after seeing Iran score huge points against the US for standing up to them in regards to nuclear development. Iran's goverment has a sweet deal; everytime they want to raise oil prices, they say something controversial, and it works just like a magic wand. In addition, they look like they're standing up to the bully, and raise their profile to a major international player. Everyday that passes, they benefit more on all these fronts.
North Korea sees this, and decides they want to play the same game. The good news for us is that the game only continues to work if there is never a nuclear strike. The bad news... well, markets reacted to the missile test by going down, except oil of course, which went up due to fears that the Asian oil supply might be interrupted. It's the Iran effect all over again, and once again, we seem powerless to stop it.
Just turned on the TV (which goes automatically to PBS when you turn on the cable box), and saw Former State Department Official Wendy Sherman say the following on The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer:
"I also think Kim Jong Il look at what we were doing with Iran. Here, Iran had really behaved badly, and for that bad behavior, they got a pretty good package that included a light water reactor; the very reactor the Bush Administration denied North Korea."
Nothing like being backed up by the TV within thirty seconds of turning it on.
[Jul 6,2006 7:06pm - Joshtruction ""]
http://video.download.com/3800-11167_53-8312.html
[Jul 7,2006 1:13am - americaninfidel ""]
ShadowSD said:ShadowSD said:I am glad to reassure all of you that North Korea striking us with nuclear weapons is next to impossible... They waited until just a few months ago, after seeing Iran score huge points against the US for standing up to them in regards to nuclear development. Iran's goverment has a sweet deal; everytime they want to raise oil prices, they say something controversial, and it works just like a magic wand. In addition, they look like they're standing up to the bully, and raise their profile to a major international player. Everyday that passes, they benefit more on all these fronts.
North Korea sees this, and decides they want to play the same game. The good news for us is that the game only continues to work if there is never a nuclear strike. The bad news... well, markets reacted to the missile test by going down, except oil of course, which went up due to fears that the Asian oil supply might be interrupted. It's the Iran effect all over again, and once again, we seem powerless to stop it.
Just turned on the TV (which goes automatically to PBS when you turn on the cable box), and saw Former State Department Official Wendy Sherman say the following on The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer:
"I also think Kim Jong Il look at what we were doing with Iran. Here, Iran had really behaved badly, and for that bad behavior, they got a pretty good package that included a light water reactor; the very reactor the Bush Administration denied North Korea."
Nothing like being backed up by the TV within thirty seconds of turning it on.
Jim Lehrer is a baggy eyed Bolshevik
[Jul 7,2006 2:10pm - ShadowSD ""]
The fact that someone who backs neo-con policies would call themselves americaninfidel proves everything I've said about the current strategy in the war on terror being a counterproductive and self-destructive failure. Please keep calling yourself that.
[Jul 7,2006 3:22pm - Yeti ""]
i really really really really really really really hate the word terror now. just the thought of the word makes me gag. all i can hear is Bush saying "tearrr"