RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT[views:13544][posts:112]_______________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 2:14pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] SacreligionNLI said:to CNV and Y ddraig goch: it's funny how you say you have so many problems with israel, seeing as how they wouldn't be a country if it weren't for america post-WW2. do you think it's israel to blame or america's will under the guise of israel? we used the formation of that country to gain a stronger presence in the middle east, and now we're doing the same by reforming the iraqi government and may very well be doing the same to iran. racism News flash, it was England who gave palestine to the jews. England promised palestine to three different countries, the french (as a colony), the people living there (so they could break off from the ottomon empire), and then the jews (to get rid of them and shut them up) And I think you have it backwards Israel is Israel's will under the guise of America. America does things for Israel because she's pretty much run by jews in a lot of departments. And she is most definitely not a foothold for the US in the middle east. That's Iraq's job. Israel, if it had the balls, would take over all of it's neighbors, this would upset America greatly. In fact the only reason Israel hasn't invaded their neighbors permanently is due to the fact America would go to war with her. All that oil could be ours, we wouldn't any country with a half decent army controlling that much oil. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2007 3:42pm - ZJD ""] CNV - I know you would probably disagree with everything I have against Ron Paul and most of my political views in general, but I couldn't vote for a guy that continually says stuff I find fucking ridiculous. I could never vote for a guy that says people with AIDS are victims of their own lifestyles. Debunk that whole article if you want, I didn't write it. One thing I wanted say though, is that being against Israeli jews, who in your opinion may be racist in general, is completely irrelevant when it comes to anyone elses racism, including Ron Paul's. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 3:56pm - CNV ""] ZJD said:CNV - I know you would probably disagree with everything I have against Ron Paul and most of my political views in general, but I couldn't vote for a guy that continually says stuff I find fucking ridiculous. I could never vote for a guy that says people with AIDS are victims of their own lifestyles. Debunk that whole article if you want, I didn't write it. One thing I wanted say though, is that being against Israeli jews, who in your opinion may be racist in general, is completely irrelevant when it comes to anyone elses racism, including Ron Paul's. Well ZJD, your entitled to your opinion ... People that are "victims" of aids? Well chances are they could have prevented it... Oh fucking well, no use crying over spilled milk. and the Israeli's racism is totally relevent because it affects Gentiles in america that work hard and then pay their taxes to a criminal racket... I am gentile, will always be gentile, and will always be a thorn in the children of abraham's side... I am the beast in the field according to them and now all the other beasts in the field need to get together and wipe the arrogant grin off their rat fink faces... Gentiles uber jews Ron Paul 08 |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 4:16pm - dreadkill ""] CNV said: and Africa?! Well if your gonna be a liberal cry baby, how bout helping the Americans first that are starving... America first baby, America first i don't agree with everything you say on this board, but i at least back you up on this. we have homeless americans who are starving, orphaned american babies who need good families, yet there are more americans who care about the welfare of the starving people and orphaned children of other countries, partly because hollywood bigshots like angelina jolie turn their home into a UN daycare. i'm all for helping people, but we need to take care of our own first. if you had a sick and/or starving child, who would you help first, your kid or the sick, starving kid down the street? you clean up your own backyard first, then turn your attention elsewhere after the job is done. if i was ever looking to adopt a kid, i'd damn sure adopt an american kid over some kid elsewhere. yeah, it sucks that there are people all over the world in need, but people need to be responsible for their own messes before they clean up someone else's. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 4:34pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] See, the problem with messing with ze Jews is that they have golems. [img] |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2007 5:02pm - ZJD ""] CNV said:ZJD said:CNV - I know you would probably disagree with everything I have against Ron Paul and most of my political views in general, but I couldn't vote for a guy that continually says stuff I find fucking ridiculous. I could never vote for a guy that says people with AIDS are victims of their own lifestyles. Debunk that whole article if you want, I didn't write it. One thing I wanted say though, is that being against Israeli jews, who in your opinion may be racist in general, is completely irrelevant when it comes to anyone elses racism, including Ron Paul's. Well ZJD, your entitled to your opinion ... People that are "victims" of aids? Well chances are they could have prevented it... Oh fucking well, no use crying over spilled milk. and the Israeli's racism is totally relevent because it affects Gentiles in america that work hard and then pay their taxes to a criminal racket... I am gentile, will always be gentile, and will always be a thorn in the children of abraham's side... I am the beast in the field according to them and now all the other beasts in the field need to get together and wipe the arrogant grin off their rat fink faces... Gentiles uber jews Ron Paul 08 I didn't say the alleged racism of Israelis was irrelevant, I said it was irrelevant to whether or not someone else's racism counts, and Ron Paul was obviously not saying, "People with AIDS should have thought first and wrapped it up," he is clearly saying "Gays deserve AIDS. Don't be gay." If you think gays deserve AIDS then whatever, but don't just blow off the fucked up stuff your hero says because you know it makes him sound like a jackass. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2007 5:58pm - pam ""] Most of the AIDS in Africa is propelled by rape and infidelity by men, who are dominant in almost every culture there. Women there mutilate their daughter's bodies so that men won't sleep with them, so they have a chance to live past 30. You're a fucking moron if you think sex operates in Africa or other fucked up countries the way it does in this one where most cases come out of being irresponsible and stupid. Obviously we should take care of our own, but the same people screaming about "America first" are the same people that turn a blind eye when their shitheel conservative party cuts social welfare, taxes on the rich, school breakfast programs, WIC, community college funding, and veteran benefits...all things that help bring people out of poverty. So stop pretending you give a fuck that people are starving in this country to serve your nationalistic arguments...you don't. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:02pm - Lamp ""] Fuck countries! |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:02pm - RichHorror ""] BBQ Steak Tips for president. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:04pm - ZJD ""] Lamp said:Fuck countries! Does fuck countries mean fuck nationalism and the idea that helping the world out should for some reason come second to helping out your own region? |
| ______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:06pm - Lamp ""] Yes. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:07pm - ZJD ""] Word up. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:07pm - pam ""] This country will never help out it's own because it's run by rich people that don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. We only help out other countries when they have something we want. Welcome to reality. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:09pm - ZJD ""] pam said:This country will never help out it's own because it's run by rich people that don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. We only help out other countries when they have something we want. Welcome to reality. It's when threads go in directions like this that I want to start spewing green anarchist shit everywhere and then I don't because I will be completely alone. PS - This means I agree |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:42pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] vote with a bullet |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:43pm - RichHorror ""] RichHorror said:BBQ Steak Tips for president. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:48pm - CNV ""] pam said:Most of the AIDS in Africa is propelled by rape and infidelity by men, who are dominant in almost every culture there. Women there mutilate their daughter's bodies so that men won't sleep with them, so they have a chance to live past 30. You're a fucking moron if you think sex operates in Africa or other fucked up countries the way it does in this one where most cases come out of being irresponsible and stupid. Obviously we should take care of our own, but the same people screaming about "America first" are the same people that turn a blind eye when their shitheel conservative party cuts social welfare, taxes on the rich, school breakfast programs, WIC, community college funding, and veteran benefits...all things that help bring people out of poverty. So stop pretending you give a fuck that people are starving in this country to serve your nationalistic arguments...you don't. You need to stop pretending you know where I stand on every issue... I am all for veteran benefits, taxes on the rich, and school breakfast (haha)... Now instead of dumping that money into Israel, dump it into america... That's all I am saying you fuckin communist cry babies. Get a grip and understand that the world will never hold hands... There is no such thing as egalitarianism and that life is a darwinist struggle for survival and in that struggle America should be number one... Die |
| ______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:48pm - Lamp ""] RichHorror said:I have no idea what anyone's talking about in this thread, so I'll just say something random and hope it makes people laugh. |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:51pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] Actually, I think he legitimately wants BBQ Steak Tips to have ultimate power in this country. But, dont they already? |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 6:54pm - RichHorror ""] I do. Stay angry, Providence Funny Walk. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 7:29pm - Greg D ""] Vote for Rich Horror. Vote none of the above party. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 7:31pm - CNV ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 7:32pm - RichHorror ""] Incidentally, Paul and Obama are the only candidates I like. Because of this they'll already be out of the running by the time comes to cast the deciding vote. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 7:37pm - anonymous ""] Y_Ddraig_Goch said:CNV is right with the whole Israel thing, but guess what, we've been brainwashed into thinking anyone who speaks out about the poor jews is a racist. "6" million jews were killed in ww2.... 10 million christians were killed by Stalin (a jew) in russia right after... but which one is more documented and exploited. yeah. stalin's rule, five year plans, russian history, gulags, has never been mentioned in a european history class, ever. how dare they. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 7:48pm - yummy ""] If we as a country weren't so busy competing we wouldn't have to worry about being #1. We are 1st place in some poor areas of merit. Go Sox! Go Pats! Go Celtics! Yay! We're #1! |
| _________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 7:49pm - sxealex ""] honestly it would be awesome if he was the republican candidate. I don't care whether I agree with everything he says or not... the fact that he wants minimum govt involvement in most everything is great for a change. And hopefully he would not push his anti abortion beliefs. If he becomes the Rep candidate I will have a lot less stress on my brow. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 7:51pm - sxealex ""] PS this what a Republican's ideals USED to be before it became a 4 letter word 30-40 years ago. They were not always right wing. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 8:13pm - Hoser ""] Amen. I have researched all of the candidates up and down. Democratically I like Obama.....but I hate the Democrats. Rupublicanally (don't think that's even a word) I LOVE Ron Paul. I will certainly cast my vote to Ron Paul. It's easy to see why he is anti-abortion....he was an OBGYN for most of his life....give the guy a break...he loves babies...nothing wrong with that. As far as his record...undisputable. He is Constitutionally honest. Anyone that says that the Constitution is "how someone reads it" is a fucking idiot. It was written in plain English. He is by far the best American for the job. I believe that he will bring government back to where it was meant to be.....if that means Federalists and Whigs, then so be it. I believe that he is a good family man, and a man that will certaily address the issue of SHITTY to NO healthcare in this country. I thouroughly believe that he is ALL for kids.....BUT, I do believe that he will crack down on illeagals in this country as well as welfare sucking leeches. This man has got it going on....he is what we ALL need. Out of Iraq...BAM! Done. Out of Isreal's ass...BAM! Done. Out of NATO...BAM! Done. Out of welfare addicts...BAM! Done. Why in the fuck would you NOT vote for him?? If abortion is top on your list them you have your priorities WAYYYYYY fucked up. That's why we have a Supreme Court....let them do their jobs. Ron Paul 2008...ALL THE WAY. By the way...his stance on the 2nd Amendment...AWESOME...It was written in plain English and shall be deciphered in plain English. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 8:18pm - the_reverend ""] Hoser said:I will certainly cast my vote to Ron Paul. It's easy to see why he is anti-abortion....he was an OBGYN for most of his life....give the guy a break...he loves babies...nothing wrong with that. oops.. I was just going to post in here and saying that I would vote for him, but Im not now because of that fact. Sorry, he's not a republican. can't be when you want the government in your vagina. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 8:18pm - Hoser ""] I can understand why CNV is so passionet about him.....he guarantees a change. He is the farthest thing from big Government that this country has seen. I have been talking about this guy for many months if you check past posts. I have watched this guy from the beginning. I am as pissed off as Paul. I understand that Mass. is typically Democratic in their Presidential vote....but c'mon...look at what an idiot Ted Kennedy is. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 8:20pm - the_reverend ""] anonymous said:yeah. stalin's rule, five year plans, russian history, gulags, has never been mentioned in a european history class, ever. how dare they. russia is mostly in asia so why would it be in a european history class? [img] |
| _________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 8:24pm - sxealex ""] all i'm saying is if abortion is the most of my worries. I think i will be ok. nothin a coat hanger cant fix. hope he is on the ballot. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 8:29pm - the_reverend ""] I would vote for him if he had an IQ-abortion law. like if you are pregnant, he immediately gives you an IQ test. anything under 100 is an immediate abortion. anything under 95 and they pull everything else out while they are in there. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 8:33pm - CNV ""] Ron Paul leaves it up to the state to decide... So if ya can't get it in New Hampshire ya can always go to Maine type of deal... No biggie |
| _________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 8:34pm - sxealex ""] i wish i was an abortion |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 9:01pm - the_reverend ""] alex, a lot of us feel that way. also, cnv that 1) punishes minors 2) groups of states in one region would get similar laws. it's all fine and good to use maine and nh as your example, but for peole the drive for an abortion would go to 400+ miles. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 9:04pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] He talks up following the constitution by the letter but aims to do so through an overbearing executive branch of government... EPIC FAIL |
| _________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 9:33pm - Greg D ""] the_reverend said:Hoser said:I will certainly cast my vote to Ron Paul. It's easy to see why he is anti-abortion....he was an OBGYN for most of his life....give the guy a break...he loves babies...nothing wrong with that. oops.. I was just going to post in here and saying that I would vote for him, but Im not now because of that fact. Sorry, he's not a republican. can't be when you want the government in your vagina. The government in your Vagina. :shocked: Hey, there's an image. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 10:45pm - SacreligionNLI ""] i'm really having trouble deciding who to vote for. i like obama but am afraid that he'll be like every other presidential hopeful and fail on the claims he's made to get public attention |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 10:46pm - SacreligionNLI ""] DestroyYouAlot said:Legalize photocopying dollar bills. isn't that pretty much what the federal reserve does? |
| ______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 11:06pm - pam ""] Hoser said: Why in the fuck would you NOT vote for him?? If abortion is top on your list them you have your priorities WAYYYYYY fucked up. That's why we have a Supreme Court....let them do their jobs. Yeah...women's rights happen to be up there on my list of priorities. Kind of comes with the vagina. I do like a lot of what Ron Paul has to say regarding foreign intervention, but I disagree that everything should be left to states. Paul wants to overturn Roe v. Wade and leave it up to the states, most of which will ban abortion and revive back-alley and home induced abortions. Overturning Roe V. Wade removed protection for victims of rape and incest. Having ANY government outlaw what women can do with THEIR bodies is the biggest violation I can think of. And I should point out that outside of rape, I would NEVER have an abortion...I find the practice pretty awful, but I don't intend to make that decision for every woman in this country and will drop dead before I cast my (albeit meaningless and uncounted) vote for someone that will put that protection in jeopardy. And you should know better about the Supreme Court, it's stacked with religion whack-jobs that vote their "good Christian morals". One more republican president and we're apt to end up with a Supreme Court full of God-freaks. Democrats may be sniveling cunts a lot of the time, but I know my rights are far safer under their filthy thumb than under a Jesus-freak Republicans. Don't fool yourself, there are barely any real conservatives left, they're just bible-thumpers with law degrees. "“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” - Sinclair Lewis |
| ____________________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 11:12pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] SacreligionNLI said:DestroyYouAlot said:Legalize photocopying dollar bills. isn't that pretty much what the federal reserve does? truth |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 11:25pm - SacreligionNLI ""] Bill Belichik '08 |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 11:28pm - dreadkill ""] pam said:Hoser said:Having ANY government outlaw what women can do with THEIR bodies is the biggest violation I can think of. i'm with you there. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2007 11:56pm - sxealex ""] SacreligionNLI said:DestroyYouAlot said:Legalize photocopying dollar bills. isn't that pretty much what the federal reserve does? i wouldnt call it photo copying exaclty |
| _______________________________ [Dec 19,2007 11:57pm - Lamp ""] It doesn't matter who the next president is, there will still be franchise businesses in every town anyway. U CAN GO 2 WAL-MART OR TARGET!!! U HAVE A CHOICE LOLOLOL!!!1!!!1!1! |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 20,2007 12:24am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] I don't see how one can have a social Darwinist worldview and be against Israel's power in the middle east. Wouldn't it follow that the arabs should have realized that throwing rocks at tanks wasn't a viable battle strategy? And if they couldn't figure that puzzle out, fuck 'em. Or going back to funding issues, the United States has been the dominant superpower for most of the past 60 or so years and thus in a social Darwinist world view has the might to do what it pleases with its money (and if you think that money belongs to you you're mistaken, the government's power entitles them to all of your earnings in this scenario). |
| _______________________________ [Dec 20,2007 12:36am - CNV ""] Cause and effect... You can be a social darwinist and still understand (and put to good use) the fundamentals of balance in government. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 20,2007 3:01am - y_ddraig_goch ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:I don't see how one can have a social Darwinist worldview and be against Israel's power in the middle east. Wouldn't it follow that the arabs should have realized that throwing rocks at tanks wasn't a viable battle strategy? And if they couldn't figure that puzzle out, fuck 'em. . quite possibly the most ignorant thing I've heard today. they throw rocks because they are dirt fucking poor from living in a "refugee" camp, aka concentration camp. They throw rocks because that's all there is. want to know where those fucking rocks come from? it's the pieces of their bulldozed fucking houses, because the jews come in and bulldoze their houses so they can build condos for their people and force the arabs out into the streets. I'm sorry if I'm sounding like a cunt, but research your shit first. If some country took over america and I had no weapons I'd be throwing rocks and anything around too |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 20,2007 3:02am - y_ddraig_goch ""] pam said:This country will never help out it's own because it's run by rich people that don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. We only help out other countries when they have something we want. Welcome to reality. Never said better. But reality can be changed, we the people can have revolutions to change things. |