ladies and gentlemen its official.... 4 more years of Bush[views:33789][posts:153]__________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 11:57am - Lynneaus ""] http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/election.main/index.html |
| __________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:00pm - litacore ""] booyah! oh, wait . . . |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:02pm - grundlegremlin ""] Looks like we are all going to die.... |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:05pm - sacreligion ""] thats what im sayin |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:06pm - the_reverend ""] an e-mail I set out: code: |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:07pm - Lincoln ""] I think I'm gonna be sick.......... |
| __________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:11pm - litacore ""] The Sky Is Falling and I Want My Mommy |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:11pm - Christraper ""] Someone should take care of that dumb fuck before we get nuked! |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:11pm - dreadkill ""] i'm not happy about the election. hopefully bush will do a better job this time. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:12pm - Josh_Martin ""] Yeah, at least maybe hardcore will get good again. I doubt it though. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:15pm - Lincoln ""] As shitty as I think this is who was really expecting Bush to lose anyways? This sucks....Nader would have done a better job than Bush is gonna do for christssake. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:15pm - armageddonday ""] grundlegremlin said:Looks like we are all going to die.... Massextinction!! Massextinction!! (sang in Discharge punk way) :nuke::nuke: |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:16pm - sacreligion ""] i can't believe how many people thought bush was good...or average for that matter...or at least "not bad" |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:20pm - Lincoln ""] sacreligion said:i can't believe how many people thought bush was good...or average for that matter...or at least "not bad" Thats what gets me....look around people...he hasn't done shit for us here either. Look around at our environment for a bit...pollution? Will go up...crime...will go way up. The war? Well neither Kerry OR Bush can get us out of that swiftly now anyways. I'm looking over my shoulder from now on.....this country is gonna get really scary. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:25pm - mammalsauce ""] this world is going to become ruled by one...our freedoms have now been officially taken away for that 51% of the country who are dumb asses. Did they even know what they were voting for? |
| __________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:26pm - succubus ""] the_reverend said:an e-mail I set out: code: i did not get it |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:27pm - Lincoln ""] He just plain sucks.....Impeach Bush!!!!! |
| __________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:29pm - litacore ""] remember Nixon in '72 (well I don't, I was aged 1) but that Hunter S. Thompson book "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail" is a fun read right now! |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:30pm - grundlegremlin ""] I don't think I can take 4 more years of Bushisms. I guess I misunderesteimated the voting system. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:34pm - grundlegremlin ""] The New World Order wins again. Another "terrorist" attack and we are under martial law. Anyone read 1984? |
| _______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:34pm - dan. ""] its because john kerry doesnt have the morals that the south thinks are important aka he thinks that women and gay people are human. what an idiot! fuck foreign policy, i wanna go with the guy that thinks dudes kissin is grosss! |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:40pm - BUSHSWALLOWS ""] How retarded does a country have to be to re-elect,that dousche bag.All i can say is here i come canada!! |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:40pm - tbone_r ""] i'd leave the country but i'm a CJ major, and that doesn't transfer into other countries very well |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:41pm - the_reverend ""] it's cause the south want their guns and think that kerry will take them away. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:44pm - dreadkill ""] civil war again |
| ____________________________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:45pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] HAH! |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:47pm - nate ""] question: how many of you actually voted? |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:48pm - BUSHSWALLOWS ""] i did |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:49pm - BUSHSWALLOWS ""] Does anyone know what happened with them legalizing weed in alaska? |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:49pm - dyingmuse ""] bush is the man, i voted for him, i couldn't be happier! |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:50pm - CongoogetalZobotomy ""] dyingmuse said:bush is the man, i voted for him, i couldn't be happier! same here |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 12:50pm - RichHorror ""] I voted for Galactus as God-King. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 1:00pm - grundlegremlin ""] Now Shaniqua can dedicate "Pee On Your Face" to Dubya for four more years.....If we all live that long. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 1:11pm - dan. ""] i dont really get why 'bush is the man'. please explain. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 1:18pm - Christraper ""] i voted and am very dissapointed |
| __________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 1:47pm - ShadowSD ""] Bush is going to get all us killed. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 1:52pm - crotchjuice ""] didn't Kerry pull out before Ohio was fully tabulated? |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 2:17pm - armageddonday ""] crotchjuice said:didn't Kerry pull out before Ohio was fully tabulated? Yes he did, what a bad loser. America would have been fucked either way, but now at least you know it. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 2:34pm - retzam ""] BUSHSWALLOWS said:Does anyone know what happened with them legalizing weed in alaska? I think we can all now assume that won't happen for at least 4 years. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 2:35pm - Lynneaus ""] Kerry conceded when he realized that the numbers in Ohio were not going to be in his favor and it would be impossible for him to win. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 2:37pm - dan. ""] conceding before all votes are counted is bullshit. it really makes you feel like your vote matters, eh? |
| __________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 3:49pm - dreadkill ""] i wish he didn't concede before the final results were in, but i think the numbers in ohio were getting worse and he knew he was going to lose. he didn't want to drag it out like last time. i guess i am glad he conceded instead of giving his supporters false hope in the end. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 3:53pm - dan. ""] i completely disagree. he should have fought for every vote. not to mention, conceding stops the vote counting process and doesnt add numbers to third party candidates who need as many votes as possible for future funding. but seriously, exhumed > all this shit |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 3:55pm - grundlegremlin ""] Fuck Bush.Fuck Kerry.Fuck Skull and Bones. Fuck the Illuminati.Fuck. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:03pm - Christraper ""] Fuck man wheres a sniper when you need one? POWERKOK!!!! THERES BUSH!!!! GET EM!!!!!! |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:04pm - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:13pm - grundlegremlin ""] hahahaha |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:14pm - WhyamIandasshole ""] I think its great. Ballgag me stuff a spiked bullwhip up my ass and lets get ready for the Apocalypse! |
| __________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:17pm - ArrowHead ""] http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/bushuncensored.html |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:20pm - BornSoVile ""] well, it was an interesting night. I think gay marriage cost Kerry Ohio. I was pumped to see NH went blue. Hopefully this will be the last term from the conservatives. you'd think with all the damage down now it can only get worse. i expect more tax cuts on education, medicare, social security and more pointless big spending on military. i think Kerry was the only person from the left that couldn't beat Bush, i've felt that way for awhile, gawd damn i wish Wesley Clark was in there. the left needs to get there fucking act together. at least this wasn't robbed from us. great to see so many people voted too. our time will come. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:22pm - dan. ""] i like when he convinced everyone that they were safe from terrorism as long as he was president and then brought gay marriage to the spotlight so he could play off peoples irrational fears AAAND their religion. that was classic. karl rove, satan has nothing on you. |
| ______________________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:33pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] All the backwoods hillbillies voted for Bush. Luckily for him they out number smart people. |
| ___________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:41pm - BornSoVile ""] did you guys see that dude Bunning for Kentucky, that's crazy shit. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:44pm - grundlegremlin ""] America needs to wake up!!!! Viva la Revolucion!!!!!!!!! |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:48pm - dan. ""] everyone should just kill themself in the name of satan |
| _______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 4:54pm - Abbath ""] satan's gay hey matt! at least you don't have to worry anymore! you're boy is still in the white house! |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 5:54pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] yep...this thread sucks....everyone shits on bush but did it actually change things in your life since hes been in office???? think about it, we'll never be attacked so we have no worry of invasion...taxes are there for a reason whether there are increases or not it doesnt affect you seriously.....let the people who VOLUNTEERfor the military to fight the wars and foreign problems, its still not your problem.......if someone here can tell me something that serious altered or completely changed thier personal lives i may reconsider, but for now just fucking go with it. everyone is upset like its the end of the world...it will come someday but not for a long time |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 5:56pm - the_reverend ""] wow.. even that gwb thing looks good on my new laptop. yeah! |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 5:57pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] RichHorror said:I voted for Galactus as God-King. galactus as in "galactus, devourer of worlds"? hahahah |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 5:58pm - the_reverend ""] 1) a form of abortion is outlawed 2) the USA patriot act 3) the economy going in the shitter so that I never get raises there are 3 things... #2 being the worst |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 5:59pm - dugoxistance ""] we will be attacked again. I can't fucking wait. and it'll be Bush's fault just like it was last time. then possibly an assassination and then an impeachment for Cheney. should be a fun 4 years. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 6:03pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] the_reverend said:1) a form of abortion is outlawed 2) the USA patriot act 3) the economy going in the shitter so that I never get raises there are 3 things... #2 being the worst 1. the senate, not bush 2. we can only do so much 3. the economy never stays low or high |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 6:05pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] and the patriot act is more defensive than offensive... take a look http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html |
| _______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 6:07pm - abbath ""] My_Dying_Bride said:RichHorror said:I voted for Galactus as God-King. galactus as in "galactus, devourer of worlds"? hahahah heh heh! [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 6:19pm - the_reverend ""] ok, mdb, don't get me started on homeland security and the usapa. I'm glad that I'm not dark skinned cause I wouldn't be allowed to use my cameras anymore. http://www.brownequalsterrorist.com/ |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 6:31pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] im not trying to get anyone started...and i agree homeland security was a bad idea, and not much is coming out of it, even if that program spends billions it wont take a noticeable amount away from your paycheck. i also said that it doesnt affect you, unless you became black since the last time i saw you..... and if you did, take it up with th NAACP, africans are still a minority in america |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 6:39pm - Kalopsia ""] dreadkill said:i'm not happy about the election. hopefully bush will do a better job this time. the problem is he won't, because he doesn't realize the horrible job he's already done. in the debates he clearly said that he felt he hasn't made any mistakes since becoming president. not one. it's gonna be a shitty 4 years |
| __________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 6:49pm - dreadkill ""] Kalopsia said:dreadkill said:i'm not happy about the election. hopefully bush will do a better job this time. the problem is he won't, because he doesn't realize the horrible job he's already done. in the debates he clearly said that he felt he hasn't made any mistakes since becoming president. not one. it's gonna be a shitty 4 years i totally agree with you. i'm just hoping maybe he will improve. i think it is more proactive for me to take this stance than be upset about kerry's loss. i wanted kerry in there. i hate bush and i think he will make our country worse, but i am hoping he might do something to redeem himself. my post was just one man's hope hanging by a thread. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 7:07pm - Billy Bitchtits ""] My_Dying_Bride said:yep...this thread sucks....everyone shits on bush but did it actually change things in your life since hes been in office???? think about it, we'll never be attacked so we have no worry of invasion...taxes are there for a reason whether there are increases or not it doesnt affect you seriously.....let the people who VOLUNTEERfor the military to fight the wars and foreign problems, its still not your problem.......if someone here can tell me something that serious altered or completely changed thier personal lives i may reconsider, but for now just fucking go with it. everyone is upset like its the end of the world...it will come someday but not for a long time Wow...you are really dumb. "We'll never be attacked"....Are you serious? Did you miss the whole 9 11 thing? Naive youths dying for the next Vietnam is tragic but as long it's none of your family members who gives a fuck?! |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 7:30pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] i put the word invasion in that sentence to show i was talking about a counrty...not a group of extremists such as al-queda that use the means of terrorism and terrorist cells, if you know what those are. it doesnt matter whos in office, if the terrorist want to strike from within, they will, as they did on 9/11. we cant physically war with them cause they're pussies hiding in sand dunes, they have no government we can make peace with. and this war is nothing like vietnam, there wasnt a draft, the military used was all voluntary! we already captured a dictator within the first couple of years, we were in nam for 30. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 7:37pm - swamplorddvm ""] That's fucked. Somethings not right. Bull shit. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 8:13pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Good thing they were able to get all those crazy kerry loving niggers disqualified from the voting rolls. |
| ________________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 8:24pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] I can understand people wanting Saddam out of power. I just cannot agree with taking him out of power. Yes, he was a dictator who abused some of his people, but what makes the Wahibi cancer throughout the middle east less of a threat than Saddam? At least in Saddam's Iraq women were given basic human dignity and rights. At least Saddam's ultimate goal wasn't Islamic rule over the entire world. Saddam's Iraq was the only secular Arab nation, if democracy was going to bloom in the Middle East Iraq would have been the place best prepared for it. Instead we have the administration publicly expressing that they would accept a fundamentalist Islamic government in Iraq if it ended the fighting. Because as we learned from Afghanistan, Fundamentalist governments result in democracy and freedom for all. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 8:33pm - the_reverend ""] there was a quote I heard on the radio today.. I think the person quoted was goettle.. or some one like that. it basically said "when you want to control people and take away their rights, convince them they are under attack and they will fall in line" |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 8:58pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] swamplorddvm said:That's fucked. Somethings not right. Bull shit. what's fucked whats not right whats bull shit? |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:00pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said:I can understand people wanting Saddam out of power. I just cannot agree with taking him out of power. pop's unfinished business |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:03pm - hoser ""] RTTP Members = The Best Political Analysts alive. Thank God for you all, I don't know how I would have gotten any valuable political information without you all. THANK YOU!!! |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:04pm - hoser ""] the_reverend said:it's cause the south want their guns and think that kerry will take them away. The North want their guns too, man. Including me. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:06pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] hoser said:RTTP Members = The Best Political Analysts alive. Thank God for you all, I don't know how I would have gotten any valuable political information without you all. THANK YOU!!! hahahaha this would kill crossfire in the ratings |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:07pm - powerkok ""] mdb, we werent in Nam for 30 years, you dill. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:11pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] ok technically 20 but if you count the years leading up to and the time spent cleaning up domestically its up there |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:18pm - powerkok ""] ya, this is true... alot of people dont know that France started the Vietnam War. I blame France. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:22pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] your damn right! world war 2 gave those french fucks the perfect opportunity to slip outta there unnoticed, (so theyd have a reason to tell the people that were against colonizing indochina) but instead they held out until we gave em help, and then they slipped outta there....they fuckin suck |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:25pm - powerkok ""] Yep, and the French still speaking french is a whole different story.... (let your country be invaded lately?) |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:26pm - powerkok ""] So this means 4 more years of good gun laws! |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:28pm - hoser ""] SWEET! Now I can still shoot intruders and rapists and criminals that break into my home! Awesome...I love defending myself!! |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:29pm - powerkok ""] yes, its a true gift, Id say. Go figure that some people actually own guns and arent thugs or scumfucks. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:30pm - hoser ""] amazing. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:32pm - powerkok ""] although, I hear theyre giving away free hairnets with every Hi-point and Jennings .380! and I hear if you buy the shittiest ammo you can find, you get a free flannel shirt with only one button on top. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:33pm - hoser ""] HAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHHHAHA |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:42pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] kok can you buy me a gun? |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:42pm - powerkok ""] whoahhh!! burn! |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:42pm - powerkok ""] hahahaha no! |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:43pm - powerkok ""] I actually had someone ask me to do that....I think it mightve been my bro, but I cant be sure...I was like, uhmmm ....no?. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:44pm - hoser ""] whoooa! Burn!! |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:49pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] i could get one on my one but i dont wanna go through classes and all that anus milarchy to get a license |
| _________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 9:53pm - powerkok ""] ya mass is strict. but you could own it and carry it in a case in your trunk unloaded. heh. Love mass. |
| ____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 10:20pm - RichHorror ""] My_Dying_Bride said:RichHorror said:I voted for Galactus as God-King. galactus as in "galactus, devourer of worlds"? hahahah One and the same. [img] |
| ________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 10:29pm - Abbath ""] it's odd how every teacher today at my colllege walked in and said "You're all gonna die" |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 10:37pm - the_reverend ""] yeh, it is odd that you were to class |
| _______________________________ [Nov 3,2004 10:39pm - eddie ""] i'm making bets that i'll still be living in 4 years, so far my dads got $20 against me. anyone else want in on this? |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 3,2004 10:47pm - KeithMutiny ""] im pretty close to signing up for the marines before i get drafted.... ps- bush sucks, shave it |
| __________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 6:23am - ArrowHead ""] ArrowHead said:http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/bushuncensored.html I can't believe no one has any comments about this. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 8:19am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Josh_Martin said:Yeah, at least maybe hardcore will get good again. I doubt it though. haha |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 10:31am - RustedAngel ""] [img] |
| _______________________________ [Nov 4,2004 10:46am - dan. ""] yeah actually, now that you mention it, bush isnt that bad. see you guys at church! hooray for theocracies! |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 11:05am - crotchjuice ""] RustedAngel said:[img] HAHAHAHA. I didnt know Buhs was running. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 4,2004 12:02pm - dan. ""] dear mydyingbride, everything youve said in this thread is bullshit. 'it doesnt affect you' is a really great argument. how the fuck does the policies of the administration that runs the country not affect the people who live in that country? maybe im not following. i mean, i dont make 100k+ a year, so i guess tax breaks dont affect me. you are right. id also like to point out, linking someone to the patriot act and then asking them to 'take a look' is the same as telling someone who has a limited vocabulary to read the dictionary. and your commentary on WWII and Vietnam is priceless. |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 12:04pm - the_reverend ""] if the economy didn't go into the shitter with bush, I would be making about $120K right now... let's just say, now, I'll have to work multiple years to make that. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 4,2004 12:08pm - dan. ""] well i guess that means you wont get up to 319k, which is ashame because if you did....youd win another tax break!! |
| ______________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 12:23pm - the_reverend ""] if I made $319K, I would own 2 or 3 D2H's instead of 1 D100 and 1 D70... hell, my $$ right now goes for (in order) 1) my new mortgage 2) this site (server) 3) heat/electricity 4) gas for my car 5) food/movies/camera equipment 6) savings in just about that order.. heck, if I made another $1K more per year, I would by a new camera... though right now, my car has 212K miles on it and the registration/inspection runs out wednesday. i need to either get a new car, but I think I'm going to get my car inspected just to see if it actually would pass. |
| _________________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 6:22pm - dirtycrayon nli ""] [img] [img] [img] |
| _________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 6:37pm - Kalopsia ""] the_reverend said:if the economy didn't go into the shitter with bush, I would be making about $120K right now... let's just say, now, I'll have to work multiple years to make that. 120 years to be exact, but who's counting? |
| ________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 6:45pm - tbone_r ""] alaska didnt pass the weed bill |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 6:59pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] dan. said:dear mydyingbride, everything youve said in this thread is bullshit. 'it doesnt affect you' is a really great argument. how the fuck does the policies of the administration that runs the country not affect the people who live in that country? maybe im not following. i mean, i dont make 100k+ a year, so i guess tax breaks dont affect me. you are right. id also like to point out, linking someone to the patriot act and then asking them to 'take a look' is the same as telling someone who has a limited vocabulary to read the dictionary. and your commentary on WWII and Vietnam is priceless. dear dan., first off i would like to thank you for that enlightenment, although youve proved noting, thank you anyways. i was simply trying to point out that everyone is taking this as the end of the world, which it is clearly not. i thought that it would be the end of the world to if bush beat gore back in 2000 but i was over it by nov 4. most of the people on this board that are saying its over or the end has come but come on, its not the fucking apocalypse! and if kerry had one yes maybe the tax breaks would show up and the economy a little better, but nothing dramatic. i would certainly keep taxes the way they are because to decrease taxes would decrease funding for schools, state operations, etc. i would much rather have to pay a bit more in taxes than have shitty public shools and expensive health care. also about the patriot act, i didnt feel it was nessecary to list all the positive parts of the patriot act, so instead i linked to a page with the hard facts. and for the facts on wwII and nam, i admit i was a while since history class, but please tell me what was false about that information and finally tell me why, at this point in time, john kerry would be able to handle this situation better than mr. bush |
| ________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 7:12pm - tbone_r ""] he wouldnt have a)lost so many jobs b)invaded an innocent (or at least not proven guilty) country c)cut taxes for the rich and this isn't the end of the world. just the beginning of the end...of america (at least). ps http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/m/p/mpm265/election.htm |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 7:19pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] a) did he lose your job? b)domination c)hes a republican, a majority of republicans are rich or above avg. working class ps thats a cute site... some more coincidence http://www.snopes.com/history/american/linckenn.htm |
| _________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 8:22pm - niccolai ""] Job pay has increased by 6 percent since 1970, rents and other expenses have increased dozens. How many of those years was bush in power for? how many democrats were? If you put some one in power who creates 200,000 jobs and than lets 205,000 immigrants in the country, guess what happens. Iraq was guilty as syn, they weren't proven guilty of having nukes, but it's not like they didn't do anything, it is a good strong start to develop a strong nation in the middle east to wipe out the forces of evil. People didn't bitch all that much when Clinton invaded Iraq and sweep it under the rug 4 times. Republicans are rich beyond immagination, but trust me, liberals like Moore, Cobb, Nader, and kerry who damn republicans for not distributing thier money like communists aren't by any means eating out of trashcans, they are on the same level. I don't understand many pro kerry arguements. More jobs + more immigrants than jobs = bad idea free health care for the poor thats heavily funded from taxes = lets just see how expensive free healthcare is Saying you'd do a better job in Iraq when Bush has a 50 year plan for it and you haven't decided on plans yet because your not sure what more voters want to hear = braindead Kerry supports stemcells slightly more... and planned to fund them with taxes so I guess he had that going for him kindof. fuck it, they both sucked, I voted Klemmensen. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 8:28pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] thank you |
| __________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 8:48pm - ArrowHead ""] ArrowHead said:ArrowHead said:http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/bushuncensored.html I can't believe no one has any comments about this. http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/bushuncensored.html I REALLY can't believe no one has ANY comments about this! |
| _________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 8:53pm - powerkok ""] thats old footage, before he was pres. and I think all it does is shows people that hes just a person, like anybody else. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 9:23pm - Kalopsia ""] kerry didn't say he would lower our taxes i recall. he said he would tax the people who can afford to pay a little more tax, i.e. rich people. bush has a 50 year plan for iraq????? half of america doesn't want a 50 minute plan with iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kerry said he wants to make healthcare more affordable, not free!!!! if you're gonna counter an argument, don't exaggerate the facts. we were told we were going into iraq for a specific reason (which we all know was not the reason to begin with.) and then when that reason backfired (no WMD's found) bush still claims he did nothing wrong at all. over 100,000 iraqi civilians dead. over 1,000 U.S. troops dead. a country is in total shambles and chaos. all for the capture of one man. and bush has the balls to say that everything's fine? |
| ______________________________ [Nov 4,2004 9:31pm - dan. ""] i didnt say kerry would be better, i think hes a fucking tool. he supported 95% of the patriot act and wanted to strengthen the other 5%. he never made any actual claims to why he would be a good president besides affectively saying 'ill do better'. i was just bein a dick though. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 4,2004 9:33pm - dan. ""] and that video isnt really that big of a deal..if you recall the vice president told a senator (house rep?) to fuck himself on the floor |
| __________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 10:03pm - niccolai ""] Kalopsia said:kerry didn't say he would lower our taxes i recall. he said he would tax the people who can afford to pay a little more tax, i.e. rich people. bush has a 50 year plan for iraq????? half of america doesn't want a 50 minute plan with iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kerry said he wants to make healthcare more affordable, not free!!!! if you're gonna counter an argument, don't exaggerate the facts. we were told we were going into iraq for a specific reason (which we all know was not the reason to begin with.) and then when that reason backfired (no WMD's found) bush still claims he did nothing wrong at all. over 100,000 iraqi civilians dead. over 1,000 U.S. troops dead. a country is in total shambles and chaos. all for the capture of one man. and bush has the balls to say that everything's fine? Kerry wants to make health care available to everyone, some people can't afford healthcare, so they get free healthcare programs wich costs big money. I simplified the fact, i wouldn't say I exagerated it. Before WMD were even brought up, people supported invading any country harboring terrorists, they didn't care about WMD. After people started dieing and oil prices went up, than people started finding ways to slander Bush as if they didn't support invasion, if the people support a president to invade a country and don't know that Iraq hasn't had any controll over thier own air or ground space in almost thirty years, it's thier fault for supporting something misinformed. 1000 troops dead is a god damn mirracle. during okanawa(I believe) 500 died every hour on average. we'd probably have less casualties and have caught Saddam months earlier if people showed more support for destroying evil instead of listening to punk rock, hating the government, and clouding and distorting themselves from watching micheal moore. People slander Bush out of habbit it seems, I'm willing to bet that if WMD were found, Kerry and his stupid nigger slave Sharpton would be slandering him for not already invading Iran. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 10:14pm - tbone_r ""] you can't unjustly invade countries. america is not the worlds police (believe it or not), they had the right to go into afghanistan and search for osama, but until they can better prove Saddam's connection with 9/11 or wmd's, they have no right to be in iraq. it's not about hating the government, it's about trying to right some wrongs. It's easy to bash bush because he's such an idiot and his adminitstrations actions are so corrupt. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 10:21pm - tbone_r ""] mdb.. a)no, he didn't lose my job...i'm a student. but i did see a bunch of teachers in my old highschool lose theirs. and i have seen a lot of people in my country lose theirs...why does it matter whether or not it's my job or somebody elses? lost jobs are lost jobs b)domination? are we resorting back to imperialism? i know correlation doesnt prove causation, but i think your site isn't as prevelant in my case as you think. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 10:22pm - niccolai ""] Your sortof missing my point. Up until a year after 9/11 the American people supported Bush invading any nation harboring terrorists. Bottom line. People changed thier minds after so what can Bush do? pull out after bulldozing a nation? I don't argue the he is brilliant, but I think people underestimate him. He's not the neandrethal the daily show makes him out to be. I definately think he knows what Iraq needs to become successful the same way Germany did and I think he can shape Iraq into that ideal better than Kerry. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 10:30pm - tbone_r ""] was there proof that Iraq was harboring terrorists? i also think that iraq would have been better off w/ kerry in office because, if kerry played his cards right, the rest of the world would have rallied behind him to help. no one wants to help bush. he's an ass and a liar. if kerry admitted that a mistake was made then maybe the world would have chipped in to fix the huge mess over in Iraq. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 4,2004 10:43pm - niccolai ""] tbone_r said:was there proof that Iraq was harboring terrorists? Was Saddam not a terrorist himself? Did he not order the destruction and inflict terror into select groups? Is Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who, even before we invaded Iraq for the war on terror carried out ritualistic beheadings of US soldiers, a terrorist? Did Iraq not declare war against the US even before the war on terror and order termination of US soldiers on sight? The US just didn't comply. Your arguement that Kerry would have more allied support is a good one, chances are he would have gained more support. Although the allies he would have gained, like France, are questionably corrupt like Bush is. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 12:31am - Kalopsia ""] niccolai said:Your sortof missing my point. Up until a year after 9/11 the American people supported Bush invading any nation harboring terrorists. Iraq is not a terrorist regime, it's an enemy nation. there IS a difference now Afghanistan harbored terrorist regimes. THERE'S the difference |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 12:43am - Kalopsia ""] niccolai said:tbone_r said:was there proof that Iraq was harboring terrorists? Was Saddam not a terrorist himself? Did he not order the destruction and inflict terror into select groups? Is Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who, even before we invaded Iraq for the war on terror carried out ritualistic beheadings of US soldiers, a terrorist? Did Iraq not declare war against the US even before the war on terror and order termination of US soldiers on sight? The US just didn't comply. Your arguement that Kerry would have more allied support is a good one, chances are he would have gained more support. Although the allies he would have gained, like France, are questionably corrupt like Bush is. no saddam is/was not a terrorist. he was a dictator. he inflicted fear upon his people, much like what bush is doing to the american people, except saddam is just being a little more extreme. name one country that declares war on another, and then doesn't follow up with an invasion/bombing/ect. (remember, the 9/11 commission concluded that saddam had nothing to do with 9/11, so don't bother trying to use it) and any support would have been better than the little we had. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 9:19am - Soloman ""] Saddam "inflicted fear on his people, much like bush... just being a little more extreme." I don't understand this. Child prisons, torture chambers, and making unwanted people disappear is only a little more extreme than bush? Yeah "much like what saddam is doing". It's easy not to care when some is fucking there own. The moment someone invades another country is when people get all flustered. But killing someone's own people? Eh who cares. The PR behind the war, and Bush's attitude don't help unify the nation behind his foriegn policy. I think if media was at 1940's level, Bush would be considered an amazing president. In today's day and age, he just looks like an idiot which is too bad. He should work on his image, but i think where he stands, we are better off with him as president than Kerry. Kerry tried hard to get people to like him, but i don't think he stood for anything. THE MIDDLE CLASS bwa ha ha ha! Yeah I didn't buy that one bit. He offered me nothing, aside from criticisms I already had of bush. So for me personally I had no reason to vote for him. People seem to hate bush first, and then find reasons to criticize. I dunno. We'll see what happens. |
| _____________________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 9:42am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] I'd rather have Saddam controlling the people he considered unsavory through brutality than allow Iraq to fall into the hands of random extremist Cleric Shimbamalama Muqadaria. |
| ______________________________ [Nov 5,2004 9:50am - dan. ""] JESUS CHRIST. what part about war without just cause do you not understand? you cant invade a country for 1 reason against the will of the entire world (oops i forgot poland!) and then when that reason proves false, fall back on "well saddam was bad and since hes out of power the world is a safer place". WOW I FEEL SAFER! thats bullshit. if you think removing saddam from power means anything, you are so completely fucked in the head theres no point in even discussing it further. allah akbah |
| _________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 10:37am - Soloman ""] I do think removing Saddam from power means something. Is it your opinion that it's insignificant? I can understand people saying it's not worth the cost of war, or that it's not our war to fight. That's debatable. But do you really think removing Saddam from power means nothing at all? |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 10:45am - litacore ""] I just wish that we'd learn a lesson from our HARDCORE support of Saddam during his War with Iran. And our support of Osama Bin Laden during the War with the Soviets in Afghanistan. I wonder which ally will fuck us first: Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or Israel. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 10:48am - Soloman ""] my vote is the Saudis |
| _________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 10:50am - Soloman ""] or the UK. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 5,2004 10:52am - dan. ""] no, it doesnt mean anything. i mean...the point of removing saddam was to improve the life of the iraqis right? because he didnt pose a viable threat? and did we do that? no. so it means nothing. i cant really go into it further, but if anything we should be in the sudan right now. but moreso, we should be taking care of the people in our own country. instead of SPENDING MORE MONEY ON A WAR THAT WILL NEVER END |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 10:56am - litacore ""] now, the likelihood of Saudi Arabia OVERTLY attacking us is pretty low the ruling class just want to keep the Dynasty goin', they don't hate America, we bankroll most of their shit the radical elements are just as much a threat to the House of Saud |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 10:57am - litacore ""] Musharraf and Karzai and Allawi have been VERY fortunate in avoiding assassination. So far. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 10:57am - litacore ""] and ISRAEL never listens to us when we say, "um,,,cut the shit" |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 11:01am - litacore ""] I like how Bush was so unconcerned with foreign policy in the months leading up to 9/11 Apart from the Middle East, we've got some continuing sass on the way from North Korea. so... whatever, Bush go ahead and destroy the separation between Church and State but PAY MORE ATTENTION TO THE WORLD AROUND YA. Chrissakes. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 5,2004 11:03am - dan. ""] he was busy...vacationing. ive read all those reports about how 9/11 was staged and all...but i dont believe it because it forced the president to actually work. he spent more time vacationing in the time leading up to 9/11 than bill clinton did during his first 4 years. amazing. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 11:08am - litacore ""] hey, this is hard work. He said so. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 11:12am - Soloman ""] The War in Iraq did end and now we're occupiers. One of Bush's biggest mistakes was his expectation that establishing a secure government there would be easy. But I still think it's very possible. Kerry's thinking was, "I need to bring the troops home, so we need to establish a secure Iraq." To me that is backwards. Bush has made mistakes, and that pisses me off, but I think the world is better off with him than Kerry. |
| _____________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 12:16pm - Josh_Martin ""] Any american who is not a fundamentalist right wing christian is far worse off with Bush in office. I don't give a fuck what happens in Iraq. At first I thought it was just a distraction to keep dumbasses from noticing that the U.S. is well on its way to being a theocracy. After the election though, I can't believe how many americans are totally fine with the religious right deciding what we can and cannot do. No wonder the rest of the world thinks americans are idiots. It really sucks that I have to be in the same country as these backwards Jesus freaks. The U.S is too big. |
| _______________________________ [Nov 5,2004 12:26pm - dan. ""] dude, the war is in no way over. |
| __________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 12:33pm - powerkok ""] no shit, were preparing for a full scale urban assault on Fallujah right this very second. |
| ________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 1:35pm - Soloman ""] the war was the iraqi invasion. Of course we're still battling it out over there as occupiers, but the war itself ended. But whatever, that's semantics. Yeah it's still violent as fuck over there. And it's taking a damn long time to establish security there. |
| _________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 2:29pm - niccolai ""] We've been in afghanastan longer and it's just as violent there. You don't see it on the news like Iraq, but it proves that this isn't just a two year opperation. |
| _______________________________________ [Nov 5,2004 4:22pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] dan. said:but moreso, we should be taking care of the people in our own country. instead of SPENDING MORE MONEY ON A WAR THAT WILL NEVER END money is no object..check out the insanity... http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ |
| ______________________________ [Nov 5,2004 4:39pm - dan. ""] heh, i love how the site is sponsored by a debt consolidator |