New England Hardcore and Metal fest 2004 day 2 the recap
[views:44071][posts:162]the Palladium - first stage (Worcester, MA) - [between_the_buried_and_me][bleeding_through][bury_your_dead][cannae][children_of_bodom][diecast][evergreen_terrace][glass_casket][iced_earth][kataklysm][martyr_ad][misery_index][misery_signals][randomshots][since_the_flood][throwdown][walls_of_jericho][what_weapons_bring_war][zao][100_demons][comeback_kid][embrace_today][love_is_red][pig_destroyer][scarlet][scar_culture][terror][the_autumn_offering][through_the_discipline][to_the_grave][twelve_tribes]
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[May 1,2004 11:06am - the_reverend ""]
I'm heading off to day 2 now.
man... this is going to be a killer and tiring day.
[May 1,2004 11:09am - succubus ""]
yes!
[May 1,2004 12:23pm - Kalopsia ""]
this year's fest doesn't come close to last year's. and last year's sucked compared to the NJMHF
[May 1,2004 1:48pm - Dave Maggot ""]
i hope all of you are having fun....bastards!
[May 1,2004 3:46pm - Abbath ""]
ya i hope so too:middlefinger:
i have to go to work now8^(sniff sniff
[May 1,2004 7:29pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
I hope they don't have fun for supporting such a lame fest
[May 1,2004 7:40pm - BornSoVile ""]
did any nazis show up this year?
[May 1,2004 7:45pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
No, they were all at O'Brien's getting off watching us wrestle outside
[May 1,2004 7:55pm - BornSoVile ""]
"It doesn't take a big man to knock somebody down
Just a little courage to lift him off the ground" - Dropkick Murphys, Fight Starter Karoke
[May 1,2004 7:56pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
Except you lost.
[May 1,2004 7:57pm - BornSoVile ""]
I'm Irish, I'm always a winner.
[May 1,2004 7:59pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
I hear that.
[May 1,2004 8:41pm - Dave Maggot ""]
never mind, i take that back. and replace it with a HAHA! :counts my invisible money i didnt spend on a ticket, just to sit in the dark with random people::
[May 1,2004 8:42pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
You should have went to O'Brien's last night and supported some real metal for only 8 dollars.
[May 1,2004 10:11pm - Dave Maggot ""]
i dont go anywhere anymore, only to sedate band practice and the movies. i'm hardly able to leave the house anymore.
[May 1,2004 10:17pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
Thats very depressing.
[May 1,2004 10:40pm - assuck ""]
the metalcore fests power went out... serves these fags right
[May 1,2004 10:56pm - Dave Maggot ""]
very depressing indeed. but i'm singing in sedate now, so i got a band. so that makes it a lil better.
[May 2,2004 12:02am - i_am_not_me ""]
Some fucking hardcore fag gave my girlfriend a concussion...so we had to go to the hospital, thus resulting in me missing Children of Bodom and ICED EARTH
[May 2,2004 12:33am - joe_shmo ""]
i_am_not_me said:Some fucking hardcore fag gave my girlfriend a concussion...so we had to go to the hospital, thus resulting in me missing Children of Bodom and ICED EARTH
Children Of Bodom, They looked like every other band, played like every other band and their keyboardist was taking a break as usual drinking backstage while the band played. Beleive me, you missed nothing. Iced Earth was good.
[May 2,2004 1:28am - the_reverend ""]
I'm back...
will type about the 3 HOUR BLACK OUT
and more in a minute after working on the pictures.
[May 2,2004 1:33am - DeOdiumMortis ""]
Hahahah, oh no. I can't wait to hear this...
[May 2,2004 1:34am - Josh_hates_you ""]
this is the first metal fest i did not go to.
[May 2,2004 1:36am - succubus ""]
i got some awesome portraits!
[May 2,2004 1:54am - JonahBloodbath ""]
Most of my pictures sucked
Most of the bands were meh at best
Had to wait 3 hours in the middle
Met a couple cool people..
[May 2,2004 1:58am - kibblesndicks ""]
I saw that girl get all kinds of knocked the fuck out. got a good chuckle I must say. COB Sucked a cock. Iced Earth...... well fuck Iced Earth. All their fucking long haired fans, who don't know what the fuck shampoo is can fuck themselves. And lastly What the fuck is it with head banging and playing Air guitar? Your not in the fucking band, Stop acting like you are. Leave the fag fucking air guitar at home in your closet. You can store it next to your sexuality.
[May 2,2004 1:58am - dirteecrayon ""]
black out?!?!?!?!
hahahaha you can't be serious!!!!
i wanna hear more!
[May 2,2004 2:06am - succubus ""]
ohh yes it's true dc!
he took a bunch of random shots of what ensued
heh
[May 2,2004 2:09am - BornSoVile ""]
I hope Jamie Jasta and head bangers ball didn't get scared.
[May 2,2004 2:19am - easyed_69 ""]
ahhhh dude, I'm so pissed off about the black out because blood has been shed cancelled, and the rest of the bands that played had to play shorter sets to catch up to the schedule.
Yeah, that fight that broke out in the parking lot was funny to watch, cause some big dude was filming the whole thing and ended up punching one of the girls in the face.
Oh, and Terror kicked so much ass. Every time they've come around Boston, I've always ended up missing them, but I finally saw them and I wasn't disappointed.
Oh, and btw, thanks Rev for taking some awesome pics of MPB. You seemed to get the pics right before I was about to get my ass kicked.
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I'm in the white btw, about to get stomped on and I fucked up my knee. It sucked, but fun nonetheless
[May 2,2004 2:56am - scar culture ""]
thanks again. sucked about the short sets but what ya gonna do! the fest was a blast none the less.
[May 2,2004 4:48am - Aegathis ""]
Iced earth was the best band tonight!!
[May 2,2004 5:40am - moran ""]
My friend called to tell the power went out. Serves the place right for putting on such a terrible show. I had more fun sitting at a bar and watching the Red Sox lose two games in one day.
[May 2,2004 5:47am - the_reverend ""]
first stage
what weapons bring war: the crowd was just getting in for them. they started right when the doors opened. A crowd of friends rushed in. it was great to see them. I saw dave's white bass sitting there and figured I'd be ducking a flying bass, but it didn't happen. he threw it at the back of the stage. didn't even swing it around at all.
glass casket: I had a discussion whether or not glass casket sounded more like btbam or coverge-ish. After seeing them live, it sounds more like converge, but there are parts that the singer talks through. I had been upset cause their last tour didn't come through this was, but they played nemhf and they are coming back.
since the flood: moved form the second stage late to the first stage early. good thing too as toby needed to leave early to make it to his mom's wedding! this was their first time hitting one of these stages. they put out a lot of energy. all the 603 kids in the pit went nuts and jumped up to sing along. they even had time to do cover song.
misery signals: their live set has gotten a lot different over their 2 years. they definitly knew how to own that stage.
martyr ad: little rob g could have been out drumming and touring with them. a lot of the kids in the audience seemed to know all the words. I'm not familiar enough to know from the CD.
cannae: dan's last show I guess... I'm not sure though cause they are going off to ohio on tour. they sounded awesome. totally in their element down there. and is that a the_network shirt I see? maybe they'll bust out a fault song.
Black out!!!!!!: what were you doing during the blackout of nemhf 2004? evergreen terrace/scarlet started to set up, then *snap* went the power. completely out. At first everyone was just kicked out of the upstairs.. then downstairs and everyone was out on the streets. A bunch of the hardcore kids started to play dodgeball which reminded me of that south park episode. After 3 hours of lounging in and out of the sun, walking around the building a bunch of times, making fun of uranium, trips to the mall, watching all that remains playing frisbee, and more... the power mysteriously came back on. This basically cut down all the bands sets and with 3 cancellation (blood has been shed, speedkillhate, and evergrey), they went mostly back onto scedule. it made it very hard for a while there when were 15-minute sets. I was running from stage to stage for a whle there, even more than usually... it made me miss most songs of a lot of amazing bands though...
back to the band reviews...
evergreen terrace: I've always liked these guys. a lot of stage presense and sense of humor. you can definitly tell that from the fact that they cover U2.
misery index: last time I saw this band on that same stage, they were still new and didn;t know what to do up there. now, they move around an aweful lot and it makes the show so good.
bury your dead: from what you can see, there are a lot of 603 and mass kids rocking and rolling in the audience.
kataklysm: not much time for their set. though they played older tracks. I mean... they played in shadows and dust so how can you complain?
walls of jericho: damn it! I was ustairs too long at terror so I got down to get 1 1/2 songs from woj. that one song will have to fill me until they come back. their songs are so short on cd and such epics live.
between the buried and me: anyone notice the drummer messing up on the track mordecai? I was singing a long so I got that. I was singing a long so I caught it.
diecast: ok, saw whatever you want about them, but their live show was pretty awesome. and guess what? I know a lot more diecast songs than I knew I did. I like the new singer better. His clean singing voice is a lot more raw then the old singer so I can take them. with the short set, they still ended with a cover over reign in blood complete with all the sound effects too. there was some huge fight as all the security guards jumped into the crowd. at one point a guy popped up from the crowd like 10 feet and landed at the from of the crowd.
throwdown: I stil don't really like them (I'd rather listen to terror or hatebreed), but their live shows full of a lot of energy.
zao: finally getting to see these guys. damn, about time. I'm sadly, I'm not sure which singer they are one now, but it sounded a lot like the old stuff. they also didn't play stuff from that rock-crap cd.
bleeding through: what can you say about their set? they are awesome and go by sooooo quickly. Also, I get addicated to their cds after seeing them live.
children of bodom: they came in with a dr. dimento song. the sound was pristin for them. it was all 100% absolutely on and all mixed right. weird, there were actually fights.
iced earth: decent live. I really do not like most of their tracks, but the live show was killer. EVERYONE in the audience was singing a long and i mean EVERYONE. it was power metal, but patriotic. the guitrist (john) sent "green face" out to all the troops. the echos on the singers vocals where hillarious. they were having problems with the computer so they couple play the last track. then they played some other tracks, but I left.
second stage
the autumn offering: I ran upstairs to catch a few songs by these guys. they were pretty awesome. Reminded me a little of the bled mixed with love is red.
through the discipline: I listened to their MP3s a long time ago when they posted them on this board. I've been waiting to see them (almost drove 4 hours to see them once). the sounded great. old school metal riffs all over.
love is red: even though they were put up against STF on the other stage, thier crowd was pretty damn violent. It's nice seeing them not on a stage at a fest playing before the doors are open.
to the grave: the new songs on the new CD are longer. I love seeing the singer doing kicks all over the stage.
twelve tribes: I've only heard of these guys a little before. never heard them. the singer had some crazy dreds.
embrace today: like most other ET shows, they were pretty tight which you'd expect from them. anyone else find it funny that the singer told people from the bar to come up, but then went off about edge? eh, I gets edge kids could be there drinking water/soda.
scarlet: long time to set up even after the black out. the singer did his usual thing of covering up people's camera's while they are trying to take pictures. they started off and it was a wall of sound. a very punishing bang some times. one of their last songs was carbon copy killer, one of their best tracks. did they have a new guitarist?
scar culture: I got back up and basically only caught one track from them. they are awesome, check the limited pictures I could get.
100 demons: damn, their pits are always violent. I'm not sure how many people got pulled out, but I saw some security pulling them out. they played some new songs. after listening to the cd a few times, they are definitly harder and heavier live. I think the singer was really into the music, so much I think he had goose-bumps while singing.
the comeback kid: pulling in a younger "american nightmare" crowd, they had the audience rolling al over each other. it really reminded me of the AN show there.
terror: take the comback kid audience and add the 100 demons audience and there you got it. a ton of people dancing very violently and having a great time doing it. terro doesn't come around here very often, but when they do, they get a killer response. I think that someone needs to do another ramallah/terror show.
pig destroyer: 3 years, 3 metalfest on that stage. basically the only time that anyone around here gets to see them unless they are driving to ny or nj. they messed up a few times cause of the drummer. if they played AnB songs after I left... I'll be pissed.
[May 2,2004 7:17am - theundergroundscene ""]
That's funny, this show was so terrible, yet I and like 2000 other people had a great time.
As for the blackout, what can you do? It's not like the venue had any control over it, and a couple other places were without power too.
I think I was the only person that didn't eat something during the blackout, haha. I wanted to go to Pub 99 but all my friends had already eaten, so then I went over to a bar with Mike Hsu from WAAF and Phil from All That Remains, then when I came back we played football haha. I certainly didn't want to be standing there but like I said, what can you do? Oh yeah and I got yelled at by one of Juliya's entourage for taking pictures haha...
[May 2,2004 8:47am - filterofsyntax ""]
During the blackout I played wiffleball in the parking lot near the broken bulding.
[May 2,2004 8:58am - Lynneaus ""]
a couple o facts about things...
the black out was an electrical problem w/ Mass electric.... a lot of ppl thought it wasnt true because other places around had power... but there were other parts of worcester that didnt have power... remember the old fire station down the street? the palladium was switched to that grid so that when power went out it would get fixed right away... with the station gone apparently it doesnt get fixed as fast.... but trust me everyone... including the detail officers were doing everything they could to get it fixed as fast as they could.
SpeedKillHate cancelled before the fest even started day one.... im not sure why... but my friend told me friday mornin when he got here they werent playing.
Children of Bodoms bus broke down in CT... Evergrey sacrificed their bus so COB could make it... i would have rather seen Evergrey :(
at this years fest i watched a total of 4 bands entire sets.
eh i like metal fest weekend but man i hope next year there are some bands i really want to see
[May 2,2004 9:07am - joe_shmo ""]
Their fualt or not, the Palladium has always has electrical problems. They need to get off their lazy asses and get those problems fixed. Fuck man! It's been 4 years and they still are having black outs. I saw Moonspell there when they first toured america and the power cut out on them something like 6 times, a pal of mine who was there video taped the whole thing. That same friend went there to see Nightwish a couple of years ago and the power cut out on them too. Fuck The Palladium.
[May 2,2004 9:53am - Lynneaus ""]
maybe you should know what you are talking about before you bash the place....
they had electricians come in and rewire the stuff earlier in the year just so that the breaker wouldnt overheat and switchoff during metal fest
[May 2,2004 10:02am - succubus ""]
more facts from moi:
aaron (the_reverend) and i didn't eat during the blackout either. First we tried to go into a pub but they may have lost power too, and then we ordered something and were going to walk back and eat it by the palladium but as we were walking back, we got the call that the power was back..i had a few bites in between bands after the fact.
it was really nice of them (to say the least~Evergrey~for sacrificing their tour bus...i told aaron right after you told me that yesterday Lynne.
Sucks that they couldn't share.
Juliya tried to molest my little brother so aaron and i couldn't find him during the blackout!
once again asking people to do portrait shots was a lot of fun..no one said no...except that Brian (Shadows Falls) and his gf were drinking and wanted to finish their drinks first...and i didn't catch them after that.
i will add that Rachel (Most precious blood) is the best and so nice, every time i see her, it's like we're old friends...she rules.
[May 2,2004 10:06am - succubus ""]
oh yeah..rather than me continiously editing..i don't see how the outage was the palladium's fault..it made it an interesting event
and aaron thank you for helping me<3
[May 2,2004 10:36am - swamplorddvm ""]
the kids who started fights were complete cowards. THEY PULLED THE GUYS HAIR!!! So gay. Anyway, it was lovely chatting with the rev and succubus again and Bodom was holy shit amazing.
[May 2,2004 10:49am - JellyFish ""]
Whoops, last one was me.
[May 2,2004 11:14am - theundergroundscene ""]
Honestly, I've been going to shows at the Palladium for the last three years, like, A LOT, and this is the first time I've EVER seen the power go out like that. Maybe for a minute or two once or twice (in three years), but nothing like that.
I guess there was an article about the blackout in today's Worcester Telegram and Gazette (haven't seen the paper yet) because my mom was asking me about it a little while ago. Apparently over 100 households and businesses in the area lost power. The Palladium just happened to be one of them...
[May 2,2004 11:24am - the_reverend ""]
I found the gazette's web site...
man falls out of rollarcoaster:
http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040502/APN/405020510
I found articles online about the perfect circle show and some other bs... but no black out article.
[May 2,2004 11:50am - theundergroundscene ""]
Right because it's in the actual newspaper...
[May 2,2004 12:51pm - intricateprocess ""]
the power outage definatley sucked....oh well, what are you gonna do......shit happens. i think the palladium sucks too...........but i cant really complain too much because guess what? they are like on of the only places that books shows around, and can hold a pretty decent size crowd to bring in big headlining bands......
i was pretty bummed that ed gein cancelled.....but at least psyopus played....
[May 2,2004 1:16pm - succubus ""]
i don't understand why people seem pissed at the palladium or why they are getting bitched out ...when they put on a lot of shows...
[May 2,2004 1:18pm - the_reverend ""]
I must say, the staff at the palladium did an awesome job. there were tons of issues with things breaking down, power going out, bands cnncelling, computers not working, people bitching about retarded things, etc...
all the people that put this fest on made it run pretty damn smoothly around all the issues. Sylvia, Scott Lee, Leah, and everyone else running the doors and stuff made sure that things went excellently.
so the power issue wasn't the palladium's fault.
so we were all forced to kick around for 3 hours and get sun instead of being at home writing in our live journals about how cool wendy's is or figuring out through tests which smurf, snork, or emotion you are.
the show must go on and I for one got to see a shit load of awesome bands.
[May 2,2004 1:21pm - succubus ""]
yes what aaron said
ps to aaron: i heard that noise
[May 2,2004 2:03pm - theundergroundscene ""]
Aaron hit the nail right on the head. I don't understand why everyone is complaining. I had a great time, even during the outage. It definitely dampened the vibe for a little while, but things got kicking again and it was an awesome show...
I'm supposed to be on my way to CBGB's but after two softball games this morning, I am wiped out!!!
[May 2,2004 2:30pm - cdan ""]
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awesome, SUM41 played?
[May 2,2004 2:31pm - cdan ""]
haha, shit, that didnt work. how do you post pics?
[May 2,2004 2:33pm - anonymous ""]
the power going out was a hell of alot better then all the narrowmind people that where there the metalheads bitching about people headwalking and crowd swurfing during the hardcore bands and the hardcore kids saying there going to beat the shit out of the metalheads all the narrormind people should fucking die
[May 2,2004 2:47pm - succubus ""]
just click on the question mark
poor aaron has posted it a million times
lol
[May 2,2004 2:49pm - succubus ""]
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there you are
[May 2,2004 3:22pm - anonymous ""]
cannae: dan's last show I guess... I'm not sure though cause they are going off to ohio on tour. they sounded awesome. totally in their element down there. and is that a the_network shirt I see? maybe they'll bust out a fault song.
it was dan's last show.... they left for ohio last night with shane their tour manager as their new bass player.
[May 2,2004 3:46pm - succubus ""]
they did announce it was his last show but aaron was running aroung getting pics of every band so he missed a bit in doing so
[May 2,2004 3:57pm - succubus ""]
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[May 2,2004 4:01pm - snowwhitesuicide ""]
That was a long fucking weekend. And for everyone crying about us "supporting such a terrible fest"....I had a press pass and snuck someone in, so stop leaving me IMs revoking my metal points. [Joe]
This fest was great for hardcore fans, I am not one so I spent a lot of time waiting for the handful of metal bands. BUT I had a good fucking time hanging out, seeing people I only see at metalfests like friends in distros and people like Charlie goddamn Lyons.
It was a pleasure to be shoved, tripped and trampled by the rev in the picture pit, and thanks a million Tom for fixing my camera!
The blackout was funny, I didn't miss anyone I gave a shit about so I had a good laugh at all the fashioncore kids having hissy fits outside. I was paid back for my assholeness however because Evergrey's set was cut completely due to bus trouble and MassConcerts sucking my girlballs.
Lastly, fuck Iced Earth. Ripper Owens is the worst vocalist ever, the new album sucks and Jon Schaffer is a douchebag.
\m/
[May 2,2004 4:02pm - snowwhitesuicide ""]
Oh yeah and Carina, I didn't get to abuse you as my bitch this weekend, I demand a raincheck!
[May 2,2004 4:14pm - snowwhitesuicide ""]
i_am_not_me said:Some fucking hardcore fag gave my girlfriend a concussion...so we had to go to the hospital, thus resulting in me missing Children of Bodom and ICED EARTH
Yeah, but think of all the scenepoints that kid has now!
[The Iced Earth cover band claiming to be Iced Earth will be back in RI on the 2nd leg of their tour, Bodom was fucking awesome, the MIGHT be coming back with IE so don't despair]
[May 2,2004 4:27pm - succubus ""]
snowwhitesuicide said:Oh yeah and Carina, I didn't get to abuse you as my bitch this weekend, I demand a raincheck!
i was going to say the same thing!
you name the time and place:bow:
[May 2,2004 4:42pm - RustedAngel ""]
what weapons bring war: i was dealing with iced earth merch so I missed you guys, sorry!
misery signals: ehh, lame.
martyr ad: ehh.
cannae: fauuuuuuuuult! ooooookla!
Black out!!!!!!: wanted to see blood has been shed but the power went out. I went outside soon after and walked around looking for people i knew. got a hot dog. Ate on the band side of the palladium because it was in the shade. Sat there pretty much the entire time... I saw a huge mic above peoples head so I went down to see what it was and it was that Juliya girl from uranium... I took a picture of her as she was walking towards me and the next thing you know I'm surrounded by like 4 huge cameras and her tiny one stuck in my face. Totally unprepared I answered her questions as lame as possible. A BJ would have been nice instead of the interview.
misery index: finally some shit I wanted to see. They were pretty sick, but the guitars were not very audible.
bury your dead: good at getting the crowd riled up, and getting people to hurt eachother. musically it's definetly not something I would ever listen too.
kataklysm: finally again, was looking foreward to this. I did notice his guitar was sorta cutting out at certain frequencies... possibly his wireless battery was dying. Also the Left PA stack was also cutting out for the rest of the show.
walls of jericho: came out with a lot of energy, kinda fun to watch the chick run around and do poppy dances. She told everyone to jump over the kids in the front and one kid in the front called her a cunt and she said something over the PA after that I couldn't make out.
between the buried and me: pretty good live... the guitarist on the right was pretty good at arpeggios and sweeps.
diecast: same old diecast I've seen a million times since they started though were much better in those days except with a new singer. I always say the drummer is too good for this band. I think i'll stick with that statement.
throwdown: you suck, I can't believe I had to sit through your set AGAIN.
zao: 2nd time seeing them, wish they picked more of the older songs to play.
bleeding through: um, lots of energy, but it was sorta boring... couldn't really hear the keyboards (which seems to always be the case when the person isn't doing much)
children of bodom: now here's some real keyboard action. faaaaaacken sick once again. wish they could have played much much longer! got a picture with alex right as he walked off the stage. \m/
iced earth: finally saw this guys since listening to them since 1998. kinda cool... barlow's vocals fit the mix much better than ripper. the music was still there though. I wonder if richard christy is going to be on howard stern's show or not as a replacement for stuttering john?
any lynneaus, who was the guy in the wheelchair? that shit was depressing to see. I think I saw him in front of the palladium in like 2000 or something.
[May 2,2004 4:53pm - Lynneaus ""]
RustedAngel said:
any lynneaus, who was the guy in the wheelchair? that shit was depressing to see. I think I saw him in front of the palladium in like 2000 or something.
i dont think i saw him so i dunno
[May 2,2004 4:54pm - Wee...Bink! ""]
i_am_not_me said:Some fucking hardcore fag gave my girlfriend a concussion...so we had to go to the hospital, thus resulting in me missing Children of Bodom and ICED EARTH
My friend's dad is the one that kicked that hardcore kid's ass.
[May 2,2004 5:05pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
swamplorddvm said:the kids who started fights were complete cowards. THEY PULLED THE GUYS HAIR!!! So gay. Anyway, it was lovely chatting with the rev and succubus again and Bodom was holy shit amazing.
they did that to me last year because i was holding back TWO of their boys from pounding on one small kid. the whole time the kid pulling my hair was saying "ill fuck you up, ill fuck you up" but in actuality, if i was standing, he wouldnt have had a fucking chance. if that kid ever reads this, come see me sometime and ill let you try to fuck me up 1 on 1. have a nice life, you fucking pansy bitch. oh and while i was on the ground, a bunch of fags tried to stomp me, but i blocked every single one. Worcester is gay and their whole scene is fucking laughable.
[May 2,2004 5:07pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
oh and the power went out last year, and the year before that. i KNOW it went out the year before, im trying to remember if it actually went out last year... im also pretty sure it did, but i could be wrong about that.
[May 2,2004 5:17pm - intricateprocess ""]
yea,i remember see spalding go down. i was in the balcony.........didnt they try to kick YOU out for people attacking YOU? lol
if the black out lasted for like an hour and a half less it would have been cool. the thing i liked about it.......it was break in the middle of the day, and you didnt have to miss any bands
my biggest beef.......where are the death/grind bands?
come on, you cant book someone like circle of dead children,bodies in the gears,commit suicide or someone else like that today. cattle decpaitation was like the only death metal band to play. that angered me, but whatever. it was still a decent year.
[May 2,2004 5:22pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
haha yeah... the security guard tried booting ME out and as soon as a few people around me saw that, they came over bitching at him saying that i didnt do anything and the security guard said "go up to the balcony because if you stay down here, you're gonna get hurt" that pissed me off because the same group of kids were beating all sorts of people up and the kids that got beat up were the ones getting kicked out and not the people ganging up on them for no reason. its fucking gay.
[May 2,2004 5:27pm - intricateprocess ""]
and oh, did anyone hear that loud f'n noise coming out of the side of the building..........once i heard that, i knew there were major problems
and jesus christ, i didnt fall asleep till like 3 both nights i stayed in my hotel room, not becuase of booze.......but because of shitty rice burner cars and bikes waking me up every 30 seconds
[May 2,2004 5:32pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
Worcester is like a larger Charles Street in Waltham... Puerto Ricans galore.
[May 2,2004 5:42pm - theundergroundscene ""]
"my biggest beef.......where are the death/grind bands?
come on, you cant book someone like circle of dead children,bodies in the gears,commit suicide or someone else like that today. cattle decpaitation was like the only death metal band to play. that angered me, but whatever. it was still a decent year."
Where are the tours those death/grind bands are on? If they weren't remotely near New England how the hell can they be booked?
Seriously, everyone has bitched and moaned and groaned about this show more than anything I've ever seen in my life. What if they got In Flames to come over a few days early to start their tour with Killswitch Engage and As I Lay Dying.... oh wait, that show is coming to the Palladium on it's own in a month. Maybe they should have had the ENTIRE Morbid Angel tour re-route itself just for this one fest? The only other "metal" band they really could have added was Obituary, but I guess that didn't work out for them.
As for the Evergrey thing, how is THAT the Palladium's fault? From what I understand, Children of Bodom's bus broke down and Evergrey gave up there's so that COB could make it. Which band was more important in the grand scheme of things? Evergrey or COB? Listening to the chants going on last night, I think I am going to go with COB, but regardless, the Palladium didn't make COB's bus break down just like they didn't make the power go out for three hours...
[May 2,2004 6:13pm - Kalopsia ""]
theundergroundscene said:"my biggest beef.......where are the death/grind bands?
come on, you cant book someone like circle of dead children,bodies in the gears,commit suicide or someone else like that today. cattle decpaitation was like the only death metal band to play. that angered me, but whatever. it was still a decent year."
Where are the tours those death/grind bands are on? If they weren't remotely near New England how the hell can they be booked?
Seriously, everyone has bitched and moaned and groaned about this show more than anything I've ever seen in my life. What if they got In Flames to come over a few days early to start their tour with Killswitch Engage and As I Lay Dying.... oh wait, that show is coming to the Palladium on it's own in a month. Maybe they should have had the ENTIRE Morbid Angel tour re-route itself just for this one fest? The only other "metal" band they really could have added was Obituary, but I guess that didn't work out for them.
As for the Evergrey thing, how is THAT the Palladium's fault? From what I understand, Children of Bodom's bus broke down and Evergrey gave up there's so that COB could make it. Which band was more important in the grand scheme of things? Evergrey or COB? Listening to the chants going on last night, I think I am going to go with COB, but regardless, the Palladium didn't make COB's bus break down just like they didn't make the power go out for three hours...
yea but they still booked a bunch of shitty bands
[May 2,2004 6:26pm - the_reverend ""]
I agree with intricateprocess's statement in so much as I would have liked to have seen commit suicide play metalfest at some point. Or get disgorge up here again. there are a bunch of amazing large deathgrind bands on willowtip and others that would come up for a show for like $100.
but that didn't happen so I'm not going to bitch about it.
hopefully next year will be more like NJMHF last november when TONS of band tour crossed over and the second stage is packed with a large assortment.
what time did the second stage end last year? it seemed really early this year... I remember a few years ago (4?) when it went to 12-1am-ish. last year, I swear it went to atleast 9.
[May 2,2004 6:27pm - theundergroundscene ""]
Well, that's all a matter of opinion. I had a great time, and I know a lot of other people that feel the same way. Maybe there could have been some bigger, "better" bands, but I guarentee that a lot of the bands that played this year will be much "bigger" this time next year...
[May 2,2004 6:30pm - theundergroundscene ""]
"what time did the second stage end last year? it seemed really early this year... I remember a few years ago (4?) when it went to 12-1am-ish. last year, I swear it went to atleast 9."
They try to get it over by 7:30 so the can let in all the "headliner" ticket holders, because while upstairs is running, no one can sit in the balcony...
[May 2,2004 6:30pm - Ninkaszi187 ""]
Not that I really care, but this fest hasn't been good since maybe the first two in my opinion. Why should a band have to be touring to play? I'm sure a band like Commit Suicide would just drive up and play if they had the oppurtunity. Why couldn't Watchmaker play? Circle Of Dead Children? It all has to do with politics, ass kissing, and other lame antics. If thats the way it's going to be, fine. If you go to these fests, you should know what it's like by now, and you have no right to bitch. Thats why I don't go anymore, I know it's not for me. So the rest, have fun, I'm sure you did.
[May 2,2004 6:36pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
From what I understand, Scott Lee refused to put any Willowtip bands on the bill when he was asked.
And when Willowtip tried to put it's on show on at Club Marque the same day (with all Willowtip bands), Mass Concerts bribed Marque to cancel it.
[May 2,2004 6:49pm - the_reverend ""]
right... that's like the 10th label that I've heard about having a "thrid" stage down the road at club marque. Sounds to me it's more like people thought about it before asking the venue.
what was the last friday or saturday show anyone here was able to set up?
I'm sure one night it was urban dance night and the other korn-cover band night.
[May 2,2004 8:00pm - succubus ""]
blah blah
ehine whine
bitch bitch
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i'm trying to lighten up thew mood!
anyone recognize the famous girlies?
[May 2,2004 8:19pm - Pat Meebles ""]
kibblesndicks said:I saw that girl get all kinds of knocked the fuck out. got a good chuckle I must say. COB Sucked a cock. Iced Earth...... well fuck Iced Earth. All their fucking long haired fans, who don't know what the fuck shampoo is can fuck themselves. And lastly What the fuck is it with head banging and playing Air guitar? Your not in the fucking band, Stop acting like you are. Leave the fag fucking air guitar at home in your closet. You can store it next to your sexuality.
And what about all that pit ninja moves? And what's with all the grabbing the mic of the singer every chance you get? You're not in the band, leave the mic-stealing in the closet with your girl's pants.
[May 2,2004 8:25pm - JonahBloodbath ""]
I hate to join all the whiners but this was easily the worst year. There were lots of great smaller bands like misery signals, from a second story window, psyopus etc, but as far as the bigger bands there wasn't anyone really exciting. No one that suprised me..throwdown? arch enemy? shocking..
Maybe scott lee should try stepping outside the obvious. Get bands like Pelican, keelhaul, or tragedy. Bands that are really fucking good even though they aren't on "cool" labels or normally playing mass concert events. I feel like the whole weekend was basically black market trust kill century fest.
[May 2,2004 8:26pm - JonahBloodbath ""]
Girl from bleeding through? you, rachel mpb
[May 2,2004 8:29pm - succubus ""]
yep...marta is her name
Jonah wins!
i am uploading my pics now...you want me to send you the pic you took with my fisheye?
[May 2,2004 8:33pm - the_reverend ""]
I got punched in the back of the head during 100 demons.. I think...
got fallen on top of by crowd surfers...
and during terror got my backpack stepped on.. but I'm not complaining.
it's just what happens when you are where you are.
"black market trust kill century fest"
you say that like it's a bad thing... though seeing tragedy would have been awesome.
[May 2,2004 8:36pm - theundergroundscene ""]
This is, I think, my favorite picture I took out of the 1900 or so I took:
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[May 2,2004 8:40pm - JonahBloodbath ""]
"you say that like it's a bad thing"
Black market has almost all amazing bands, century media is kind of meh but alright, but jesus christ trust kill is the anti-christ of any hardcore ethic I've ever known true. What do I know, im just some kid with long hair, but when did hardcore ever need to be mass marketed? When I want to hear good hardcore i'll head to a basement, not the mall.
[May 2,2004 8:46pm - JonahBloodbath ""]
or the basement and not the palladium in this case
[May 2,2004 8:48pm - JonahBloodbath ""]
carina: I would like the picture I took, it was my girlfriend right? other then that, what do I win?!
[May 2,2004 8:59pm - the_reverend ""]
I like a lot of trustkill bands... mpb, it dies today, bleeding through, terror and walls of jericho. mpb, idt, and terror I've seen at "tiny" shows... also, I don't really like nora, but they put on a great show.
I like this one cause he's all "hey rttp. long time, no see. what are you doing over there?"
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[May 2,2004 9:08pm - succubus ""]
ok jonah..what's yer email?
i'm sorting my pics now
[May 2,2004 9:39pm - demonofthemoor ""]
dude, evergrey was there..I was talking to the vocalist...the palladium asked them not to play thats all
HE WAS WALKING AROUND THE VENUE THE WHOLE TIME...
one think that really pissed me off was during Bury Your Dead when the stupid pit dancers were punching me..when I was sitting on that little over hang and they wouldnt go away...im glad I kicked that kid in the face..he had a bloody nose and stuff..i hope he bled to death
[May 2,2004 9:40pm - demonofthemoor ""]
terror is like a bad hatebreed, the good thing about this is that there is no such thing as a good hatebreed...
they just get kinda boring after a while with the constant DUHDUNDUHDUN FIGHT FOR YOUR DESTINY
[May 2,2004 9:40pm - i_am_not_me ""]
snowwhitesuicide said:Ripper Owens is the worst vocalist ever
Uh...did you even see any of the other bands there? :ralphie:
[May 2,2004 9:44pm - demonofthemoor ""]
during the black out, the girl from bleeding through was walking around and she walked right past me...I said marry me now..and im pretty sure she heard me..
hahaha
[May 2,2004 9:44pm - i_am_not_me ""]
Wee...Bink! said:i_am_not_me said:Some fucking hardcore fag gave my girlfriend a concussion...so we had to go to the hospital, thus resulting in me missing Children of Bodom and ICED EARTH
My friend's dad is the one that kicked that hardcore kid's ass.
You know who it was?
[May 2,2004 9:47pm - chistopher ""]
why wouldn't they put any Willow Tip bands on the bill. It would of been totally killer to see Arsis, since I just fell in love with them
Yeah, this show was fun, but dissapointing. For one thing, I had to go by myself...so for the major part I had no one to talk to. I tried to find conversations with some people to kill the time, but not many of the hip cats what to talk to a goofy lookin 16 year old. It really sucked during the black out. I played 2 rounds of dodge ball though. Watched the girl fight. The one really hardcore chick, laid the most solid kung fu punch to this other girl's face, it was awasome. Some of the kids were real dicks though. Like when the dad was trying to get the girls out of the fight, one of them just straight out kicked him in the head. Sure at first I laughed, but then kinda felt bad for the dude.
As for the tunes, I'm really more of a metal guy. I mostly wanted to see Between and the Buried and Me though, I noticed the mess up too rev, as I was singing along too. Kataklysm did a great set, and Children of Bodom were great.
btw, don't be hating on air guitar man
the 100 Demons set was crazy, Diecast was fun, Zao were neat as were WoJ. I think I can pretty much reconize a bunch of you peoples now.
I had a good time, I hope next year though, as most of us whiners here, there is ome more metal.
[May 2,2004 9:57pm - succubus ""]
the_reverend said:I like a lot of trustkill bands... mpb, it dies today, bleeding through, terror and walls of jericho. mpb, idt, and terror I've seen at "tiny" shows... also, I don't really like nora, but they put on a great show.
I like this one cause he's all "hey rttp. long time, no see. what are you doing over there?"
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i didn't get a lot of pics of them because i was backstage with marta for most of their set
[May 2,2004 10:37pm - RustedAngel ""]
yeaaah!
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beiitch, look for me on uranium! haha.a
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[May 2,2004 10:39pm - retzam ""]
I can't believe I missed Bodom again. I better see them next time they come around or I am gonna be mega-pissed.
[May 2,2004 10:43pm - Abbath ""]
the_reverend said:I like a lot of trustkill bands... mpb, it dies today, bleeding through, terror and walls of jericho. mpb, idt, and terror I've seen at "tiny" shows... also, I don't really like nora, but they put on a great show.
I like this one cause he's all "hey rttp. long time, no see. what are you doing over there?"
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AAHAHAHHAHAHA you crack me up:bow:
[May 2,2004 10:48pm - theundergroundscene ""]
This just in from Blabbermouth:
"ARCH ENEMY Pull Out of MACHINE HEAD Tour - May 2, 2004
ARCH ENEMY have officially dropped off the MACHINE HEAD U.S. tour and have returned home to Sweden, sources close to the MACHINE HEAD camp have confirmed to BLABBERMOUTH.NET.
The Swedish quintet were originally slated to start the tour with MACHINE HEAD on April 28 in Philadelphia but ended up postponing the kick-off date by a couple of days, citing "problems in obtaining a replacement U.S. visa" in Germany for singer Angela Gossow — an excuse that our sources now say was "a complete lie."
Although ARCH ENEMY made it to the New England Metal And Hardcore Festival in time for their performance on Friday, a supposed "throat infection" suffered by Gossow "forced" the group to pull out of the entire tour on Saturday — in the process pissing the MACHINE HEAD camp off royally.
ARCH ENEMY have yet to officially confirm their departure from the trek. A statement from MACHINE HEAD on the matter is expected to arrive later today. "
So it looks like they came over just to play this show...
[May 2,2004 10:54pm - RustedAngel ""]
or they saw how gay machine head is and didn't want anymore fingers pointed at them saying they are more nu-metal.
no doubt that she's sick, most girls get sick easier than dudes especially her. I've heard about them cancelling so many shows on account of her being sick... GET JOHAN BACK!!!!!!!!!!
[May 2,2004 11:00pm - retzam ""]
Johan was a horrible vocalist!!!
I'm sorry, I hate his voice.
[May 2,2004 11:15pm - RustedAngel ""]
i thought it was better than angela's...
[May 2,2004 11:22pm - Lynneaus ""]
jesus fucking christ.... most of you are the whinest bunch of little girls i have ever heard!!!
you know what ill be the first to say i personally thought this was the weakest fest of them all (and yes i have been to them all)... there were 4 bands the entire weekend where i watched their entire set... two of which i really enjoyed the other two were ok....
but cry me a fucking river.... you saw the damn lineup before the fest.... if you didnt want to see all those bands DONT GO.
there are some of the lamest rumors in this thread and i wont even justify them by dispelling them because they are entirely ridiculous.
yes there are a lot of puerto ricans in worcester (actually in worcester public schools P.R's are the majority), yes people "cruise the strip" friday and saturday night, racing and reving their engines, but how is this news to anyone????? did you just move from another part of the world??? i mean fuck even my friends from canada know the score about worcester....but like me, they also know that the palladium is one of the best run venues around, with some really amazing people who work there.
ive been to clubs and various venues all over the east coast and canada.... and the palladium is one of the best...and im not alone in that sentiment....
bah im just pissed now
[May 2,2004 11:42pm - anonymous ""]
Compared to other clubs, the palladium is definitely better kept and more crowd friendly, but the acts that they book for the most part are horrible, and even with good headliners, they'll manage to open the show with a band that has nothing to do with them musically just because it's the music that the booking guy likes.
[May 3,2004 12:01am - the_reverend ""]
thanks for posting that jay, I read that when I woke up some where...
but forgot to post it.
angel's been sick on every tour.
I to have been to tons of larger venues. and I know worcester truly rocks. nice people, nice venue, and crowds that SHOW UP and HAVE FUN. unlike most other places of the world (re: milwaukee's empty waste land of a metal fest)
[May 3,2004 12:10am - Terence ""]
Lynneaus said:but cry me a fucking river.... you saw the damn lineup before the fest.... if you didnt want to see all those bands DONT GO.
That is gospel to me. I saw how unbelievably gay the lineup was, and didnt go.
Ozzfest has a better lineup.
[May 3,2004 12:15am - Terence ""]
anonymous said:Compared to other clubs, the palladium is definitely better kept and more crowd friendly, but the acts that they book for the most part are horrible, and even with good headliners, they'll manage to open the show with a band that has nothing to do with them musically just because it's the music that the booking guy likes.
EXACTLY!!!!!
Yet another reason why i dont go to the Palladium, ever.
[May 3,2004 12:21am - kibblesndicks ""]
anonymous said:the power going out was a hell of alot better then all the narrowmind people that where there the metalheads bitching about people headwalking and crowd swurfing during the hardcore bands and the hardcore kids saying there going to beat the shit out of the metalheads all the narrormind people should fucking die
sounds pretty narrow minded you fucking faggot
fuck you your bitching just as much as all the people you just mentioned Your a fucking idiot
[May 3,2004 12:21am - Aegathis ""]
Yea for the most part the whole day was pretty gay.Im fucking sick of all those hardcore bands. I just went for Iced Earth, Cob , and evergrey who didnt even get to play.I was quite content with Iced earth's performance.
[May 3,2004 12:41am - succubus ""]
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[May 3,2004 12:45am - succubus ""]
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[May 3,2004 12:46am - JonahBloodbath ""]
the_reverend said:I like a lot of trustkill bands... mpb, it dies today, bleeding through, terror and walls of jericho. mpb, idt, and terror I've seen at "tiny" shows... also, I don't really like nora, but they put on a great show.
I honestly forgot that bands like mpb, jericho and terror are on trust kill, I like all of them. Its bands like bleeding through the annoy the hell out of me. Although terror is pretty over the top, I don't doubt for a second that they're really heart felt about what their doing. Bands like bleeding through, nora and throwdown are just watered down easy to digest hardcore knockoffs.
[May 3,2004 12:52am - JonahBloodbath ""]
carina: you can email it to me at bloodbathrecords@aol.com or just post it here if you want
[May 3,2004 9:40am - theundergroundscene ""]
Here is Machine Head's statement about Arch Enemy dropping off:
MACHINE HEAD Issue Statement Regarding ARCH ENEMY Tour Cancellation - May 3, 2004
MACHINE HEAD have issued the following tongue-in-cheek "statement" regarding ARCH ENEMY's decision to pull out of "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" U.S. tour:
"In what came as a complete shock to the MACHINE HEAD camp, perennial support act ARCH ENEMY have informed headliners MACHINE HEAD that they must pull out of the entire Weapons Of Mass Destruction tour because singer Angela Gossard [sic] broke a fingernail which had recently been through a vigorous French manicure.
"Citing work visa problems and strained vocals to the media, the troubles began for the German vixen when, upon raising her devil horns for the 349th time during ARCH ENEMY's bizarre performance at the New England Metal and Hardcore Festival, her fingernail got caught in what could only be described as a metal-horned catastrophe. The members of MACHINE HEAD instinctively rushed to her aid, offering her mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, after which the ever-benevolent MH boys granted the openers permission to miss a handful of shows while she recovered from what the metal diva claimed was 'an extremely painful broken nail'. Unfortunately, word came from their management and booking agent today that the nail would need emergency manicuring and that only the best French manicurist in all of Sweden could perform the repair, thus resulting in the bands' inability to complete the entire remainder of the tour.
"To the relief of no one in particular, not a single ticket holder asked for a refund."
You gotta admit, that is pretty funny, and it seems like there is more to this than a throat infection. I heard a rumor that Arch Enemy thought they were headlining this tour...
[May 3,2004 12:13pm - snowwhitesuicide ""]
Do I like Machinehead? No.
Was that statement hilarious? Yes.
[May 3,2004 1:55pm - Abbath ""]
ahahah they're so bad, i can't believe arch enemy got themselves mixed up with them in the first place
[May 3,2004 3:24pm - JellyFish ""]
I cant believe they named themselves machine head.
[May 3,2004 4:10pm - Paul FOD ""]
lineup for the fest was too gay for me. I didnt go thank god.
[May 3,2004 5:45pm - intricateprocess ""]
theundergroundscene said:"my biggest beef.......where are the death/grind bands?
come on, you cant book someone like circle of dead children,bodies in the gears,commit suicide or someone else like that today. cattle decpaitation was like the only death metal band to play. that angered me, but whatever. it was still a decent year."
Where are the tours those death/grind bands are on? If they weren't remotely near New England how the hell can they be booked?...
hmm, well Circle of dead Children is from pennsylvania,bodies in the gears are from NJ? and commit suicide is NY? i believe....thats pretty close........
its not like im saying nasum should come over for a 20 minute set.
no willow tip bands? why not? its soon going to be nothing but trustkill/victory bands with a few big metal headliners......
[May 3,2004 6:01pm - Kalopsia ""]
that machine head statement was fucking great!!!!!
[May 3,2004 7:11pm - Wraithious ""]
chistopher said:
btw, don't be hating on air guitar man
I second that, people who go to shows and stand there not even flinching make me wonder if they even like metal at all, Ooooh, your so fucking tough and obscure never letting anyone guess you might actually like what your hearing, give me a fucking break. I love the music I listen to, and it moves me to the point of banging my head, throwing in some air guitar, and even some air drums. and I have long hair, and I shower too.
There wasn't that many stinky people at the fest, at least not the first day. there definatly were a few tho. I missed the second day because we were in a motel 2 miles away and my friends wanted to just party all day and night, so after the first day, we partied untill 4, got up at 2:45pm, and partied untill 6:00 the next morning. I regret not seeing misery index because I really wanted to see them, but I allready have seen all the other bands I would have wanted to see saturday.
I tried to hang out with two dykes friday night but I somehow offended them, what happened was when the pit closed in on me and the brunette we fended off the bodies fairly well, and after the song I said, "We fended them off pretty well huh?" and she said "what?" so I repeated what I said, and she said something to the blonde she was with, then the song started and I said to the brunette, "C'mon, let's get em!" and she grabbed her friend's hand and they walked off. :( Where the hell did I go wrong??!!??
[May 3,2004 7:20pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
Wraithious said:There wasn't that many stinky people at the fest
Oh Come on Tom, I bet you purposely didn't shower just to piss everybody off! :doublehorns:
[May 3,2004 7:20pm - DeOdiumMortis ""]
Feminist dykes need no man's help. Der.
[May 3,2004 7:31pm - the_reverend ""]
I was there saturday and I was super smelly
[May 3,2004 7:43pm - Spltrguts ""]
This is the first year I missed NEMF as well! I was contiplating suicide, but have been told that is was pretty much like the last 5 years! So My focus is on OzzFest for one reason and one reason only....SLAYER!!!!!!:NEWHORNS:
[May 3,2004 7:53pm - Wraithious ""]
DeOdiumMortis said:Feminist dykes need no man's help. Der.
I know I know, but I was hoping they swung both ways, or at least would be some interesting conversation if nothing else
Ha hah haha ha hah @ Joe, I was the stinkyest of all stinkyness at that fest \m/
[May 3,2004 7:55pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
Tom, remember those broads at the manowar show? That was the best
[May 3,2004 8:10pm - easyed_69 ""]
All I hear is blah blah blah, I can't read
[May 3,2004 8:47pm - retzam ""]
Spltrguts said:This is the first year I missed NEMF as well! I was contiplating suicide, but have been told that is was pretty much like the last 5 years! So My focus is on OzzFest for one reason and one reason only....SLAYER!!!!!!:NEWHORNS:
My focus is on Ozzfest for 3 reasons and 3 reasons only...DIMMU BORGIR, SLAYER, JUDAS PRIEST!!!! :NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS:
[May 3,2004 8:51pm - JellyFish ""]
Agreed
[May 3,2004 9:10pm - MunkyMastr ""]
You kids crack me up. So much bitching about the hardcore kids and how "tough" they are. Then, you go home on your computer and type how much tougher you are than they are, and how you will fight them, but where were you then? Why don't you say something when it is going down? Oh, because you'll get your ass kicked. Another note, why would you stand near the pit if you don't want to be hurt? Just move away, the Palladium is huge.
[May 3,2004 10:32pm - kibblesndicks ""]
MunkyMastr said:You kids crack me up. So much bitching about the hardcore kids and how "tough" they are. Then, you go home on your computer and type how much tougher you are than they are, and how you will fight them, but where were you then? Why don't you say something when it is going down? Oh, because you'll get your ass kicked. Another note, why would you stand near the pit if you don't want to be hurt? Just move away, the Palladium is huge. [/QUOT
exactly.
[May 3,2004 10:46pm - dread_104 ""]
i looked at the lineup, then didn't go. i had a great day saturday.
[May 4,2004 12:08am - joe_shmo ""]
RustedAngel said:i thought it was better than angela's...
You're just pissed she kicks your shitty bands ass.
[May 4,2004 12:11am - joe_shmo ""]
retzam said: My focus is on Ozzfest for 3 reasons and 3 reasons only...DIMMU BORGIR, SLAYER, JUDAS PRIEST!!!! :NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS:
Preach on brother:doublehorns:
[May 4,2004 7:59am - thelastgreatwhitehope ""]
post by Ninkaszi187 at May 2,2004 6:30pm
Not that I really care, but this fest hasn't been good since maybe the first two in my opinion. Why should a band have to be touring to play? I'm sure a band like Commit Suicide would just drive up and play if they had the oppurtunity. Why couldn't Watchmaker play? Circle Of Dead Children? It all has to do with politics, ass kissing, and other lame antics. If thats the way it's going to be, fine. If you go to these fests, you should know what it's like by now, and you have no right to bitch. Thats why I don't go anymore, I know it's not for me. So the rest, have fun, I'm sure you did.
[May 4,2004 8:10am - thelastgreatwhitehope ""]
Watchmaker would have destroyed that fuckin shithole. but if i was them, i wouldn't want my name to be associated with all those shit bands. It mine as well have been a rap festival. rap beats with guitars. any retard can do that. this fest sucked. i knew what i was in for though. i saw the few bands i wanted to see and then i was on my merry way. anybody else notice the shit music in between sets?
[May 4,2004 8:29am - anonymous ""]
You kids crack me up. So much bitching about the hardcore kids and how "tough" they are. Then, you go home on your computer and type how much tougher you are than they are, and how you will fight them, but where were you then? Why don't you say something when it is going down? Oh, because you'll get your ass kicked. Another note, why would you stand near the pit if you don't want to be hurt? Just move away, the Palladium is huge
Ok let me state I respect the hardcore kids for wanting to support there bands but they don't seem to respect the metalheads want to headbang or have a real mosh pit. It's no fun anyone for the metal kids that have to sit there and watch the hardcore kids punch and kick there again when we wanna get in there and push around each other w/o getting kicked in the balls. I think this years fest could of been alot better and they should of asked the boys from Shadows Fall to play they were walking around the fest all sat.
[May 4,2004 9:22am - RustedAngel ""]
joe_shmo said:RustedAngel said:i thought it was better than angela's...
You're just pissed she kicks your shitty bands ass.
you're a pussy, i'll kill you.
[May 4,2004 10:12am - the_reverend ""]
anonymous said:they should of asked the boys from Shadows Fall to play they were walking around the fest all sat.
they are in the studio now.
brian was there, he always is, but I didn't see anyone else.
[May 4,2004 10:29am - RustedAngel ""]
matt was there too.. didn't see jon
[May 4,2004 3:57pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
there is a difference between moshing and blatnatly ganging up on one person and stomping them. i never said hardcore kids are tough, granted that there are a few actually tough ones, but for the most part they are little pussies that are more concerned with feigning toughness than actually enjoying the band that is playing. and the hardcore scene is GAY for the most part (not only because i think most hardcore is just generic, open stringed chug chug, old school punk part into chug chug part again with a lame build up with some "catchy" phrase about unity being said right before the breakdown starts.
hardcore scene is GAY because:
1) you fucking wear GIRLS pants. hows your nads, or lack-there-of, feel you faggots?
2) everyone has the same gay army hat.
3) you fight for no fucking reason and even then you dont even really fight
4) every band has the same breakdown
5) you wear fucking GIRLS pants
6) i know that the girls pants thing doesnt apply to the "tough guy" hardcore people... but yeah, ganging up and beating on one person at a time is pretty fucking gay.
7) lame hardcore antics ruin clubs (Middle East anyone?)
8) hardcore is still around.
that is all. and yes, i hate the metal scene too. die.
[May 4,2004 4:01pm - boobtoucher ""]
everyone choke on my dick
[May 4,2004 4:04pm - Abbath ""]
hahahaha oh spaldino i love you sometimes
couldn't agree with you more
[May 4,2004 4:22pm - rhavensilence ""]
yes yes scenes suck, I at metal fest did my best to slake my fists in the face of hardcore dancers.
bodom, iced earth owned the day.
evergrey never played what the hell!!!!!!!!!!!!
[May 4,2004 5:33pm - i_am_not_me ""]
thelastgreatwhitehope said:anybody else notice the shit music in between sets?
I think that was intentional.
And I still maintain that Neil Diamond sounds WAY too much like Weird Al Yankovic at times.
[May 4,2004 6:38pm - retzam ""]
I wear girl pants, but I don't listen to hardcore. Oh well...
[May 4,2004 6:42pm - Wraithious ""]
Yeah, I too noticed the gay interval music they had on. pretty lame.
Hey Joe, I remember those girls, especially the blonde with her thong sticking out of her pants, she was fucking HOT HOT HOT!!! She wanted you too I think ;)
Remember that time at Jarrods with the chick with purple hair and a pink half shirt that said CUNT on it? she was fucking hot too, I haven't seen her around anywhere recently tho, how's she doing anyway? (I can't remember if it was you or Mike that knows her)
[May 4,2004 7:39pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
retzam said:I wear girl pants, but I don't listen to hardcore. Oh well...
that would still make you gay
[May 4,2004 8:00pm - retzam ""]
Damn!
I could of sworn I was straight too. Jeeezzz. Oh maan!
[May 4,2004 8:01pm - anonymous ""]
Hardcore Broken down:
1.) Chug Chug (gap) Chug Chug (kid began to kick the air)
2.) The Have The Army/Bennie hat Tipped to the side
3.) Pants pulled down a pit to show there boxers
4.) Wearing some Tan wicked tight shirt that has some unknown band on it
5.) "Girl" pants
6.) Lyrics Such as "They Will Punch we down but I stand tall over them they will not make me fall" in about everyone of there songs.
7.) Fans who love to punch and kick they air
#Mike#
[May 4,2004 8:35pm - theundergroundscene ""]
I like hardcore. I don't fight. I don't wear girls pants. I don't kick the air. I don't hit people. I don't have a girls hair cut. I don't wear army hats or beenies. I don't show my boxers. Etc, etc, etc...
[May 4,2004 10:34pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
retzam said:Damn!
I could of sworn I was straight too. Jeeezzz. Oh maan!
Awww, I'm sorry.
Maybe next time, Champ =(
[May 5,2004 12:49am - Terence ""]
Why does every thread turn into the inevitable hardcore vs. metal fight. Its been done 1000x, and nothing will change. Its like that stupid story about Mayhem, its so tired, and old. We all know what happens, every argument, every rebuttle, every refutation. Lets all give up on it, please. For the sake of reading something interesting, lets talk about other things.
[May 5,2004 1:29am - Paul FOD ""]
Ninkaszi187 said:Not that I really care, but this fest hasn't been good since maybe the first two in my opinion. Why should a band have to be touring to play? I'm sure a band like Commit Suicide would just drive up and play if they had the oppurtunity. Why couldn't Watchmaker play? Circle Of Dead Children? It all has to do with politics, ass kissing, and other lame antics. If thats the way it's going to be, fine. If you go to these fests, you should know what it's like by now, and you have no right to bitch. Thats why I don't go anymore, I know it's not for me. So the rest, have fun, I'm sure you did.
Smartest words yet.
[May 5,2004 1:35am - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
Terence said:Why does every thread turn into the inevitable hardcore vs. metal fight. Its been done 1000x, and nothing will change. Its like that stupid story about Mayhem, its so tired, and old. We all know what happens, every argument, every rebuttle, every refutation. Lets all give up on it, please. For the sake of reading something interesting, lets talk about other things.
so uh... i saw this dead hooker in an alley last night... i fucking splooged on the corpse so i could get arrested. this is gonna rule.
[May 5,2004 8:53pm - ATNFAC_Vokillz ""]
I thought the fest was awesome, especially because of the blackout. I just thought it was kind of gay how on the first day, headliners Killswitch Engage got their set cut because Mahcine head took 30 minutes to set up, but even with a blackout Iced Earth still had to play a 2 hour set. I mean, I dig Iced Earth but it sucked for the other bands. I really wanted to see BtBaM but only got 3 songs. I was just alittle disappointed.
[May 5,2004 9:06pm - JellyFish ""]
why the hell did you enjoy the blackout? It eliminated the purpose of going to a show altogether.
[May 6,2004 7:13am - retardcastration ""]
oi oi oi !!!! -l-