New England Hardcore and Metal fest 2004 day 2 the recap
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[May 2,2004 10:39pm - retzam ""]
I can't believe I missed Bodom again. I better see them next time they come around or I am gonna be mega-pissed.
[May 2,2004 10:43pm - Abbath ""]
the_reverend said:I like a lot of trustkill bands... mpb, it dies today, bleeding through, terror and walls of jericho. mpb, idt, and terror I've seen at "tiny" shows... also, I don't really like nora, but they put on a great show.
I like this one cause he's all "hey rttp. long time, no see. what are you doing over there?"
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AAHAHAHHAHAHA you crack me up:bow:
[May 2,2004 10:48pm - theundergroundscene ""]
This just in from Blabbermouth:
"ARCH ENEMY Pull Out of MACHINE HEAD Tour - May 2, 2004
ARCH ENEMY have officially dropped off the MACHINE HEAD U.S. tour and have returned home to Sweden, sources close to the MACHINE HEAD camp have confirmed to BLABBERMOUTH.NET.
The Swedish quintet were originally slated to start the tour with MACHINE HEAD on April 28 in Philadelphia but ended up postponing the kick-off date by a couple of days, citing "problems in obtaining a replacement U.S. visa" in Germany for singer Angela Gossow — an excuse that our sources now say was "a complete lie."
Although ARCH ENEMY made it to the New England Metal And Hardcore Festival in time for their performance on Friday, a supposed "throat infection" suffered by Gossow "forced" the group to pull out of the entire tour on Saturday — in the process pissing the MACHINE HEAD camp off royally.
ARCH ENEMY have yet to officially confirm their departure from the trek. A statement from MACHINE HEAD on the matter is expected to arrive later today. "
So it looks like they came over just to play this show...
[May 2,2004 10:54pm - RustedAngel ""]
or they saw how gay machine head is and didn't want anymore fingers pointed at them saying they are more nu-metal.
no doubt that she's sick, most girls get sick easier than dudes especially her. I've heard about them cancelling so many shows on account of her being sick... GET JOHAN BACK!!!!!!!!!!
[May 2,2004 11:00pm - retzam ""]
Johan was a horrible vocalist!!!
I'm sorry, I hate his voice.
[May 2,2004 11:15pm - RustedAngel ""]
i thought it was better than angela's...
[May 2,2004 11:22pm - Lynneaus ""]
jesus fucking christ.... most of you are the whinest bunch of little girls i have ever heard!!!
you know what ill be the first to say i personally thought this was the weakest fest of them all (and yes i have been to them all)... there were 4 bands the entire weekend where i watched their entire set... two of which i really enjoyed the other two were ok....
but cry me a fucking river.... you saw the damn lineup before the fest.... if you didnt want to see all those bands DONT GO.
there are some of the lamest rumors in this thread and i wont even justify them by dispelling them because they are entirely ridiculous.
yes there are a lot of puerto ricans in worcester (actually in worcester public schools P.R's are the majority), yes people "cruise the strip" friday and saturday night, racing and reving their engines, but how is this news to anyone????? did you just move from another part of the world??? i mean fuck even my friends from canada know the score about worcester....but like me, they also know that the palladium is one of the best run venues around, with some really amazing people who work there.
ive been to clubs and various venues all over the east coast and canada.... and the palladium is one of the best...and im not alone in that sentiment....
bah im just pissed now
[May 2,2004 11:42pm - anonymous ""]
Compared to other clubs, the palladium is definitely better kept and more crowd friendly, but the acts that they book for the most part are horrible, and even with good headliners, they'll manage to open the show with a band that has nothing to do with them musically just because it's the music that the booking guy likes.
[May 3,2004 12:01am - the_reverend ""]
thanks for posting that jay, I read that when I woke up some where...
but forgot to post it.
angel's been sick on every tour.
I to have been to tons of larger venues. and I know worcester truly rocks. nice people, nice venue, and crowds that SHOW UP and HAVE FUN. unlike most other places of the world (re: milwaukee's empty waste land of a metal fest)
[May 3,2004 12:10am - Terence ""]
Lynneaus said:but cry me a fucking river.... you saw the damn lineup before the fest.... if you didnt want to see all those bands DONT GO.
That is gospel to me. I saw how unbelievably gay the lineup was, and didnt go.
Ozzfest has a better lineup.
[May 3,2004 12:15am - Terence ""]
anonymous said:Compared to other clubs, the palladium is definitely better kept and more crowd friendly, but the acts that they book for the most part are horrible, and even with good headliners, they'll manage to open the show with a band that has nothing to do with them musically just because it's the music that the booking guy likes.
EXACTLY!!!!!
Yet another reason why i dont go to the Palladium, ever.
[May 3,2004 12:21am - kibblesndicks ""]
anonymous said:the power going out was a hell of alot better then all the narrowmind people that where there the metalheads bitching about people headwalking and crowd swurfing during the hardcore bands and the hardcore kids saying there going to beat the shit out of the metalheads all the narrormind people should fucking die
sounds pretty narrow minded you fucking faggot
fuck you your bitching just as much as all the people you just mentioned Your a fucking idiot
[May 3,2004 12:21am - Aegathis ""]
Yea for the most part the whole day was pretty gay.Im fucking sick of all those hardcore bands. I just went for Iced Earth, Cob , and evergrey who didnt even get to play.I was quite content with Iced earth's performance.
[May 3,2004 12:41am - succubus ""]
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[May 3,2004 12:46am - JonahBloodbath ""]
the_reverend said:I like a lot of trustkill bands... mpb, it dies today, bleeding through, terror and walls of jericho. mpb, idt, and terror I've seen at "tiny" shows... also, I don't really like nora, but they put on a great show.
I honestly forgot that bands like mpb, jericho and terror are on trust kill, I like all of them. Its bands like bleeding through the annoy the hell out of me. Although terror is pretty over the top, I don't doubt for a second that they're really heart felt about what their doing. Bands like bleeding through, nora and throwdown are just watered down easy to digest hardcore knockoffs.
[May 3,2004 12:52am - JonahBloodbath ""]
carina: you can email it to me at bloodbathrecords@aol.com or just post it here if you want
[May 3,2004 9:40am - theundergroundscene ""]
Here is Machine Head's statement about Arch Enemy dropping off:
MACHINE HEAD Issue Statement Regarding ARCH ENEMY Tour Cancellation - May 3, 2004
MACHINE HEAD have issued the following tongue-in-cheek "statement" regarding ARCH ENEMY's decision to pull out of "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" U.S. tour:
"In what came as a complete shock to the MACHINE HEAD camp, perennial support act ARCH ENEMY have informed headliners MACHINE HEAD that they must pull out of the entire Weapons Of Mass Destruction tour because singer Angela Gossard [sic] broke a fingernail which had recently been through a vigorous French manicure.
"Citing work visa problems and strained vocals to the media, the troubles began for the German vixen when, upon raising her devil horns for the 349th time during ARCH ENEMY's bizarre performance at the New England Metal and Hardcore Festival, her fingernail got caught in what could only be described as a metal-horned catastrophe. The members of MACHINE HEAD instinctively rushed to her aid, offering her mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, after which the ever-benevolent MH boys granted the openers permission to miss a handful of shows while she recovered from what the metal diva claimed was 'an extremely painful broken nail'. Unfortunately, word came from their management and booking agent today that the nail would need emergency manicuring and that only the best French manicurist in all of Sweden could perform the repair, thus resulting in the bands' inability to complete the entire remainder of the tour.
"To the relief of no one in particular, not a single ticket holder asked for a refund."
You gotta admit, that is pretty funny, and it seems like there is more to this than a throat infection. I heard a rumor that Arch Enemy thought they were headlining this tour...
[May 3,2004 12:13pm - snowwhitesuicide ""]
Do I like Machinehead? No.
Was that statement hilarious? Yes.
[May 3,2004 1:55pm - Abbath ""]
ahahah they're so bad, i can't believe arch enemy got themselves mixed up with them in the first place
[May 3,2004 3:24pm - JellyFish ""]
I cant believe they named themselves machine head.
[May 3,2004 4:10pm - Paul FOD ""]
lineup for the fest was too gay for me. I didnt go thank god.
[May 3,2004 5:45pm - intricateprocess ""]
theundergroundscene said:"my biggest beef.......where are the death/grind bands?
come on, you cant book someone like circle of dead children,bodies in the gears,commit suicide or someone else like that today. cattle decpaitation was like the only death metal band to play. that angered me, but whatever. it was still a decent year."
Where are the tours those death/grind bands are on? If they weren't remotely near New England how the hell can they be booked?...
hmm, well Circle of dead Children is from pennsylvania,bodies in the gears are from NJ? and commit suicide is NY? i believe....thats pretty close........
its not like im saying nasum should come over for a 20 minute set.
no willow tip bands? why not? its soon going to be nothing but trustkill/victory bands with a few big metal headliners......
[May 3,2004 6:01pm - Kalopsia ""]
that machine head statement was fucking great!!!!!
[May 3,2004 7:11pm - Wraithious ""]
chistopher said:
btw, don't be hating on air guitar man
I second that, people who go to shows and stand there not even flinching make me wonder if they even like metal at all, Ooooh, your so fucking tough and obscure never letting anyone guess you might actually like what your hearing, give me a fucking break. I love the music I listen to, and it moves me to the point of banging my head, throwing in some air guitar, and even some air drums. and I have long hair, and I shower too.
There wasn't that many stinky people at the fest, at least not the first day. there definatly were a few tho. I missed the second day because we were in a motel 2 miles away and my friends wanted to just party all day and night, so after the first day, we partied untill 4, got up at 2:45pm, and partied untill 6:00 the next morning. I regret not seeing misery index because I really wanted to see them, but I allready have seen all the other bands I would have wanted to see saturday.
I tried to hang out with two dykes friday night but I somehow offended them, what happened was when the pit closed in on me and the brunette we fended off the bodies fairly well, and after the song I said, "We fended them off pretty well huh?" and she said "what?" so I repeated what I said, and she said something to the blonde she was with, then the song started and I said to the brunette, "C'mon, let's get em!" and she grabbed her friend's hand and they walked off. :( Where the hell did I go wrong??!!??
[May 3,2004 7:20pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
Wraithious said:There wasn't that many stinky people at the fest
Oh Come on Tom, I bet you purposely didn't shower just to piss everybody off! :doublehorns:
[May 3,2004 7:20pm - DeOdiumMortis ""]
Feminist dykes need no man's help. Der.
[May 3,2004 7:31pm - the_reverend ""]
I was there saturday and I was super smelly
[May 3,2004 7:43pm - Spltrguts ""]
This is the first year I missed NEMF as well! I was contiplating suicide, but have been told that is was pretty much like the last 5 years! So My focus is on OzzFest for one reason and one reason only....SLAYER!!!!!!:NEWHORNS:
[May 3,2004 7:53pm - Wraithious ""]
DeOdiumMortis said:Feminist dykes need no man's help. Der.
I know I know, but I was hoping they swung both ways, or at least would be some interesting conversation if nothing else
Ha hah haha ha hah @ Joe, I was the stinkyest of all stinkyness at that fest \m/
[May 3,2004 7:55pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
Tom, remember those broads at the manowar show? That was the best
[May 3,2004 8:10pm - easyed_69 ""]
All I hear is blah blah blah, I can't read
[May 3,2004 8:47pm - retzam ""]
Spltrguts said:This is the first year I missed NEMF as well! I was contiplating suicide, but have been told that is was pretty much like the last 5 years! So My focus is on OzzFest for one reason and one reason only....SLAYER!!!!!!:NEWHORNS:
My focus is on Ozzfest for 3 reasons and 3 reasons only...DIMMU BORGIR, SLAYER, JUDAS PRIEST!!!! :NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS:
[May 3,2004 8:51pm - JellyFish ""]
Agreed
[May 3,2004 9:10pm - MunkyMastr ""]
You kids crack me up. So much bitching about the hardcore kids and how "tough" they are. Then, you go home on your computer and type how much tougher you are than they are, and how you will fight them, but where were you then? Why don't you say something when it is going down? Oh, because you'll get your ass kicked. Another note, why would you stand near the pit if you don't want to be hurt? Just move away, the Palladium is huge.
[May 3,2004 10:32pm - kibblesndicks ""]
MunkyMastr said:You kids crack me up. So much bitching about the hardcore kids and how "tough" they are. Then, you go home on your computer and type how much tougher you are than they are, and how you will fight them, but where were you then? Why don't you say something when it is going down? Oh, because you'll get your ass kicked. Another note, why would you stand near the pit if you don't want to be hurt? Just move away, the Palladium is huge. [/QUOT
exactly.
[May 3,2004 10:46pm - dread_104 ""]
i looked at the lineup, then didn't go. i had a great day saturday.
[May 4,2004 12:08am - joe_shmo ""]
RustedAngel said:i thought it was better than angela's...
You're just pissed she kicks your shitty bands ass.
[May 4,2004 12:11am - joe_shmo ""]
retzam said: My focus is on Ozzfest for 3 reasons and 3 reasons only...DIMMU BORGIR, SLAYER, JUDAS PRIEST!!!! :NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS::NEWHORNS:
Preach on brother:doublehorns:
[May 4,2004 7:59am - thelastgreatwhitehope ""]
post by Ninkaszi187 at May 2,2004 6:30pm
Not that I really care, but this fest hasn't been good since maybe the first two in my opinion. Why should a band have to be touring to play? I'm sure a band like Commit Suicide would just drive up and play if they had the oppurtunity. Why couldn't Watchmaker play? Circle Of Dead Children? It all has to do with politics, ass kissing, and other lame antics. If thats the way it's going to be, fine. If you go to these fests, you should know what it's like by now, and you have no right to bitch. Thats why I don't go anymore, I know it's not for me. So the rest, have fun, I'm sure you did.
[May 4,2004 8:10am - thelastgreatwhitehope ""]
Watchmaker would have destroyed that fuckin shithole. but if i was them, i wouldn't want my name to be associated with all those shit bands. It mine as well have been a rap festival. rap beats with guitars. any retard can do that. this fest sucked. i knew what i was in for though. i saw the few bands i wanted to see and then i was on my merry way. anybody else notice the shit music in between sets?
[May 4,2004 8:29am - anonymous ""]
You kids crack me up. So much bitching about the hardcore kids and how "tough" they are. Then, you go home on your computer and type how much tougher you are than they are, and how you will fight them, but where were you then? Why don't you say something when it is going down? Oh, because you'll get your ass kicked. Another note, why would you stand near the pit if you don't want to be hurt? Just move away, the Palladium is huge
Ok let me state I respect the hardcore kids for wanting to support there bands but they don't seem to respect the metalheads want to headbang or have a real mosh pit. It's no fun anyone for the metal kids that have to sit there and watch the hardcore kids punch and kick there again when we wanna get in there and push around each other w/o getting kicked in the balls. I think this years fest could of been alot better and they should of asked the boys from Shadows Fall to play they were walking around the fest all sat.
[May 4,2004 9:22am - RustedAngel ""]
joe_shmo said:RustedAngel said:i thought it was better than angela's...
You're just pissed she kicks your shitty bands ass.
you're a pussy, i'll kill you.
[May 4,2004 10:12am - the_reverend ""]
anonymous said:they should of asked the boys from Shadows Fall to play they were walking around the fest all sat.
they are in the studio now.
brian was there, he always is, but I didn't see anyone else.
[May 4,2004 10:29am - RustedAngel ""]
matt was there too.. didn't see jon
[May 4,2004 3:57pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
there is a difference between moshing and blatnatly ganging up on one person and stomping them. i never said hardcore kids are tough, granted that there are a few actually tough ones, but for the most part they are little pussies that are more concerned with feigning toughness than actually enjoying the band that is playing. and the hardcore scene is GAY for the most part (not only because i think most hardcore is just generic, open stringed chug chug, old school punk part into chug chug part again with a lame build up with some "catchy" phrase about unity being said right before the breakdown starts.
hardcore scene is GAY because:
1) you fucking wear GIRLS pants. hows your nads, or lack-there-of, feel you faggots?
2) everyone has the same gay army hat.
3) you fight for no fucking reason and even then you dont even really fight
4) every band has the same breakdown
5) you wear fucking GIRLS pants
6) i know that the girls pants thing doesnt apply to the "tough guy" hardcore people... but yeah, ganging up and beating on one person at a time is pretty fucking gay.
7) lame hardcore antics ruin clubs (Middle East anyone?)
8) hardcore is still around.
that is all. and yes, i hate the metal scene too. die.
[May 4,2004 4:01pm - boobtoucher ""]
everyone choke on my dick
[May 4,2004 4:04pm - Abbath ""]
hahahaha oh spaldino i love you sometimes
couldn't agree with you more
[May 4,2004 4:22pm - rhavensilence ""]
yes yes scenes suck, I at metal fest did my best to slake my fists in the face of hardcore dancers.
bodom, iced earth owned the day.
evergrey never played what the hell!!!!!!!!!!!!
[May 4,2004 5:33pm - i_am_not_me ""]
thelastgreatwhitehope said:anybody else notice the shit music in between sets?
I think that was intentional.
And I still maintain that Neil Diamond sounds WAY too much like Weird Al Yankovic at times.