New England Metal and Hardcore Festival '06[views:301926][posts:182]_____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:13am - i_am_not_me ""] Dragonforce...on Sunday...of course. I'm demanding that Sunday off this year. Or I'm closing the store the second I get to work. HOLY SHIT...DID I SEE TROUBLE MENTIONED?! Okay...the shitcore bands are DEFINITELY worth putting up with...for fucking Trouble, and Dragonforce, and Gamma Ray, and Exodus, and Cryptopsy, and Neuraxis, and Into Eternity, and Suffocation, and Immolation, and Necrophagist, and Arsis, and Byzantine... |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:47am - i_am_not_me ""] ...and is that Wolf the Swedish Wolf? God damn, that would fucking own. I was OBSESSED with them back when Black Wings came out. I listened to Venom a fucking billion times. |
| _____________________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 9:18am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] I'm pretty sure it's the Swedish Wolf. Maybe they're on tour with Gamma Ray. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 9:29am - Joe/NotCommon ""] It's cool Arsis is playing. |
| _________________________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 12:33pm - mark fucking richards ""] there are a lot more bands i'd like to see on this year's fest than last year, a few of which i do not want to miss, but if the good bands are spread throughout all 3 days and i can't afford it, i'll suck it up and just save all my money for MDF. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 12:48pm - Justice ACR ""] Lacuna Coil, Arch Enemy, Exodus, Cryptopsy, Alarum, God Forbid, Hate Eternal, Into Eternity, Necrophagist, Ramallah there are the only bands that id want to see, and ive already seen most of them many times, i dont think its worth it |
| __________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 1:42pm - pam nli ""] Wolf rules. I've seen them though. Same with Lacuna Coil, Into Eternity AND Trouble...so I'm still not going. Plus Into Eternity is SO disappointing live, their new singer is a schmo. Exodus is still the only seller for me. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 1:44pm - pam nli ""] I don't see which bands are playing on which days...where are you guys seeing that? |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 1:49pm - dreadkill ""] i would go to this if tom jones headlined. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 1:51pm - KeithMutiny ""] http://groups.myspace.com/NEMHF |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 2:53pm - RustedAngel ""] KeithMutiny said:http://groups.myspace.com/NEMHF hahah oh, come on keith, just don't go. I gotta say you cannot see 90% of the bands on this fest for 5-7 dollars locally like you stated. It's a festival and there are 75+ bands but probably will be close to 100 by the time the full lineup is announced. So you figure around 30 bands per day. Other shows with just 4-5 bands can be $10-15. So by your standards lets say it's $7 to see 4 bands, well multiply the amount of bands by 8 = 32. So then 8 x $7 would come out to $56 if you were charging $7 per 4 bands...$56 x 3 days = $168. So by the amount of bands on this fest, $109 is actually cheaper than you would charge :spineyes: p.s. I do think that $110 is a lot for 3 days of shows, but I'm not going to go on strike or something. You gotta figure a lot of these bands are probably getting paid in the thousands to play. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 2:56pm - the_reverend ""] now that is funny |
| ________________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:14pm - MetalcoreSUCKS ""] They need more Death Metal/less Metalcore bands on this fest to make it more interesting.Until that happens I wont go to these Shitfests. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:15pm - KeithMutiny ""] thats ok, you can support big buisness. kill the little guy, right? capitalism at its finest, god bless america!!!! SELL EVERYTHING!!!! WOOOO HOOO!!!! |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:21pm - RustedAngel ""] KeithMutiny said:thats ok, you can support big buisness. kill the little guy, right? capitalism at its finest, god bless america!!!! SELL EVERYTHING!!!! WOOOO HOOO!!!! like I said, I'm not going unless I can get on a list. How is this killing a little guy? I don't know of anyone else who has the capability or capacity to hold such a fest in the tri-state area. I can't imagine scott lee makes much money. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:32pm - KeithMutiny ""] RustedAngel said: I don't know of anyone else who has the capability or capacity to hold such a fest in the tri-state area. Thats my point, they realise this, and in turn cornered the market and can set a price wherever they so desire, thats my argument. When is enough going to be enough? |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:36pm - RustedAngel ""] KeithMutiny said: Thats my point, they realise this, and in turn cornered the market and can set a price wherever they so desire, thats my argument. When is enough going to be enough? So you're saying if they were charging $7 for a 3 day pass you wouldn't have started an anti-nemhcf myspace group? With that amount of bands, especially national/worldwide acts on it I'm sure it costs more than we think to put something like that on. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:37pm - RustedAngel ""] KeithMutiny said: When is enough going to be enough? When it officially sells out. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:41pm - KeithMutiny ""] RustedAngel said:KeithMutiny said: Thats my point, they realise this, and in turn cornered the market and can set a price wherever they so desire, thats my argument. When is enough going to be enough? So you're saying if they were charging $7 for a 3 day pass you wouldn't have started an anti-nemhcf myspace group? With that amount of bands, especially national/worldwide acts on it I'm sure it costs more than we think to put something like that on. yes, i am saying that. well aware it would cost more than that to run this show, but not what they're asking. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:50pm - RustedAngel ""] KeithMutiny said: yes, i am saying that. well aware it would cost more than that to run this show, but not what they're asking. how do you know? how many new england metal & hardcore fests have you put on in your lifetime? |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 3:57pm - BornSoVile ""] I can understand boycotting years ago when it really sucked, but there are actually a strong number of bands I want to see. If you want to get more attention to the boycott, just invite some nazis, that's what I did in 03. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 4:00pm - RustedAngel ""] A myspace group is not going to effect the turnout of this fest. I look at the members of the group already and I don't think I've seen any of them at any previous metalfests. If you can't afford it, just don't go. Continue seeing localized shows and the larger nationals whenever they come around. Josh, I remember the Nazi's in 03' you bastard! |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 4:01pm - BornSoVile ""] holy shit, i can't believe ATR isn't playing! |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 4:45pm - KeithMutiny ""] so, rather than accepting the fact someone would like to change any event to help everyone... youd rather just go oh, o well, and roll over and die? thats fine. and josh, you missed the point of my means. I can very easily afford to go, its the principle. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 4:48pm - KeithMutiny ""] ya and now made aware vendor booths are 1500... come on, you dont see this as trying to hose people for everything they can get? |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 4:51pm - anonymous? ""] I heard some jerk named Jeremy is trying to get any band stuff into swag bags for the fest! what a prick he is! who does he think he is! screw him!! Why is he think he is such a nice guy! He's just out for himself .. ! hehe |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 4:52pm - dreadkill ""] BornSoVile said:holy shit, i can't believe ATR isn't playing! i almost shit my pants in shock when i saw they weren't playing. at least all the other bands they sound like will be playing so no one will miss them. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 4:53pm - anonymous+ ""] maybe jeremy is the little guy? although i heard he can eat anyone under the table! |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 4:55pm - RustedAngel ""] KeithMutiny said:ya and now made aware vendor booths are 1500... come on, you dont see this as trying to hose people for everything they can get? dude, it's a business. If the palladium didn't charge for someone to setup a booth there they'd be giving out space for free. (Does your landlord let you live rent free? no Do american legions let you put on shows in their space for free? no) If you're booth is smart then $1500 is NOTHING because you'll make that back and THEN SOME. You think they want a bunch of little weener's who don't know what they're doing taking up space at such a popular event? hellz no. If you figure 3,000 kids go to metalfest, even if only 300 kids buy cd's from you at $9/ea you're making making your $1500 back plus another $1200 which is a total of $2700. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 4:59pm - succubus ""] KeithMutiny said:http://groups.myspace.com/NEMHF give me a break look at how many bands are playing if you're going to bitch what about ozzfest? the cost for 1 ticket is more than a 3 day pass |
| __________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:01pm - succubus ""] rusted angel made a million great points in this thread |
| __________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:02pm - succubus ""] oh and RETURNTOTHEPIT and DEFYUNLEARN are 2 sponsers..you going to boycott rttp too now? |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:02pm - KeithMutiny ""] the point of my statement was that perhaps with the price on the vendor's increase, you still need to raise the ticket prices to such and obscene amout? I have no problem with them charging the vendors, the vendor can easily make the money back, plus some, that has nothing to do with what im saying. so then, how many vendor licenses are issued? x $1500 + % of merch? + food/bar sales? + ticket prices? = ? |
| __________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:02pm - succubus ""] *sponsor |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:04pm - KeithMutiny ""] succubus said:oh and RETURNTOTHEPIT and DEFYUNLEARN are 2 sponsers..you going to boycott rttp too now? well i almost forgot. + sponsor money = ? |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:05pm - KeithMutiny ""] i just belive it could be done with much less of a financial agenda in mind. apparently you people think otherwise. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:20pm - dreadkill ""] my reason for not going is because the lineup sucks. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:22pm - KeithMutiny ""] i honestly dont mind the line up, its better than it has been for a while, in my personal opinion. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:29pm - dreadkill ""] i liked last year's lineup better. king diamond, behemoth, dark tranquillity, obituary. this year's is better than 2 years ago when evergrey was the only band i wanted to see and they cancelled. i was so pissed. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:44pm - BornSoVile ""] so what is the boycott about? |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:49pm - KeithMutiny ""] well i never mentioned the word boycott. but the point is the insane prices, and that its turning into an investment, rather than an art expression. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:49pm - Yeti ""] boycotting is a bit extreme. if you dont agree with the ticket prices, just dont go. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:54pm - KeithMutiny ""] KeithMutiny said:not that anyone cares what i have to say, but i think this is completely out of hand. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:55pm - BornSoVile ""] so your protesting it cause it's expensive. okay i understand that. it will probably cost you more to go to MDF with gas/hotel. I know they're not directly related to the fest but why not protest that too? and like tom said, you should make one about ozzfest. consistency is the big ethical rage nowadays. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 5:58pm - KeithMutiny ""] im not going to MDF, though it is a great line up, because of the money as well. as for ozzfest, perhaps in time, but this is my issue at hand because the initial shock was so disturbing. and dont try and lecture me on consistancy. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 6:13pm - pam nli ""] yikes. I'm just not going because I'm claustrophobic, poor and don't like shitty metalcore. I'm not burning my bra. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 8:46pm - DaveSnake888 ""] TROUBLE RULES THE LAND |
| __________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 8:50pm - pam nli ""] They were awesome live, too. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 8:53pm - KeithMutiny ""] http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/music/...local/rucker/documents/04819497.asp the only trouble i listened to, but they were awsome... im also well aware its not the same band, before anyone points this out. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 23,2006 8:56pm - jrb2917 nli ""] I was a huge Trouble fan.. I think I stillhave 'the skull' on vinyl |