NEMHF Day III: recap thread
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[May 1,2006 2:42am - the_reverend ""]
pictures pictures pictures.
working on the main stage
[May 1,2006 2:48am - anonymous ""]
Can ANYONE explain to me what is wrong with the hordes of people who came for Dragonforce and didn't stay for Gamma Ray? Does that make sense to anybody?
[May 1,2006 3:04am - the_reverend ""]
yeah.. I don't understand it.
[May 1,2006 3:04am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
Ramma Gay.
[May 1,2006 3:04am - insipidzombie ""]
besides Gamma Ray's awesomeness, you'd think that they would have similar fan bases.
[May 1,2006 3:12am - pam nli ""]
anonymous said:Can ANYONE explain to me what is wrong with the hordes of people who came for Dragonforce and didn't stay for Gamma Ray? Does that make sense to anybody?
I was just going to say that. There wouldn't BE a Dragonforce if not for bands like Gamma Ray. They did Helloween's "I Want Out" and it was the awesomest thing ever.
I guess I just don't SEE IT with Dragonforce. The weedly-weedly-weedly stuff doesn't trump memorable, catchy songwriting, which I don't think DF really has. I know I'm going to be attacked for saying it, but I just don't see the big deal.
Into Eternity was my favorite band of the night, even though I think their new singer is fucking awful. Wolf was awesome. Goat Horn ruled. That Bronx Casket crap was terrible, but I felt bad for them...they were the opening band for Iron Maiden as far as the crowd was concerned. Maybe if they didn't take ten thousand years to set up they wouldn't have angered the mob so much.
I'm too tired to post full on reviews. I had a good time tonight though. Some cool people in the photo pit this year, there were roadie buttcracks, friendly bands, good crowds, the kid from Cadaveryne cracking me up with his belligerent yelling...good times. Met Dankill, cool fuckin' guy. Mike Hirudinea and AlexOnslaught...I think... showed up for Gamma Ray. Hung out with Bill Richards too, haven't seen that motherfucker in years. Definately the best day of the weekend.
[May 1,2006 3:13am - pam nli ""]
insipidzombie said:besides Gamma Ray's awesomeness, you'd think that they would have similar fan bases.
I noticed most of Dragonforce's fanbase is 21 and under. That might be why they don't know who Gamma Ray is.
[May 1,2006 3:20am - paradigmdream ""]
i stayed for about half of gamma ray's set. i was really tired though and wanted to get home.
great show though. i wish i went saturday too. oh well, next year
[May 1,2006 3:26am - pam nli ""]
my legs, back, and head were all hurting by the time Gamma Ray was setting up, I don't know how I stuck it out as long as I did.
I just had to hear I Want Out.
LEAVE ME ALOOOOOOOOOONEEE!
[May 1,2006 3:43am - the_reverend ""]
I'm at home from the show, drinking and eating.
two things I couldn't do this weekend.
[May 1,2006 5:33am - dwellingsickness ""]
what a trooper, sit thru 3 days of shit just to see like 10 good bands if that
[May 1,2006 8:37am - eddie(nli) ""]
i don't understand why dragonforce is more popular than every other euro power metal band that they sound like
[May 1,2006 8:46am - Cadaveryne ""]
pam nli said:anonymous said:Can ANYONE explain to me what is wrong with the hordes of people who came for Dragonforce and didn't stay for Gamma Ray? Does that make sense to anybody?
I was just going to say that. There wouldn't BE a Dragonforce if not for bands like Gamma Ray. They did Helloween's "I Want Out" and it was the awesomest thing ever.
I guess I just don't SEE IT with Dragonforce. The weedly-weedly-weedly stuff doesn't trump memorable, catchy songwriting, which I don't think DF really has. I know I'm going to be attacked for saying it, but I just don't see the big deal.
Into Eternity was my favorite band of the night, even though I think their new singer is fucking awful. Wolf was awesome. Goat Horn ruled. That Bronx Casket crap was terrible, but I felt bad for them...they were the opening band for Iron Maiden as far as the crowd was concerned. Maybe if they didn't take ten thousand years to set up they wouldn't have angered the mob so much.
I'm too tired to post full on reviews. I had a good time tonight though. Some cool people in the photo pit this year, there were roadie buttcracks, friendly bands, good crowds, the kid from Cadaveryne cracking me up with his belligerent yelling...good times. Met Dankill, cool fuckin' guy. Mike Hirudinea and AlexOnslaught...I think... showed up for Gamma Ray. Hung out with Bill Richards too, haven't seen that motherfucker in years. Definately the best day of the weekend.
Beligerance!
[May 1,2006 9:51am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
This is 100% the case. About 80% of the Dragonforce fanbase are kids or n00bs (listening to metalcore for about 3 years) who think this music is some novelty, even though Dragonforce simply steal the music of Euro power metal bands for the past decade and play it a little faster. I also like how their fans run around filming videos with swords, basically they are the new LARP.
So Rev, how was attendance overall? A new record for this fest, or fizzling out?
[May 1,2006 11:50am - dreadkill ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:This is 100% the case. About 80% of the Dragonforce fanbase are kids or n00bs (listening to metalcore for about 3 years) who think this music is some novelty, even though Dragonforce simply steal the music of Euro power metal bands for the past decade and play it a little faster. I also like how their fans run around filming videos with swords, basically they are the new LARP.
So Rev, how was attendance overall? A new record for this fest, or fizzling out?
indeed, gay n00bz. we need more n00dz.
[May 1,2006 12:09pm - matt tnr ""]
dragonforce was the best show i have ever seen in my entire life. anyone who puts down dragonforce and boasts gamma ray feel just as im sure gamma ray feels: pissed that dragonforce is younger, faster, and over all just a thousands times more talented than they ever were. and please don't play the metal elitist card with claiming points about how you listen to gamma ray 20 years ago. that was then, this is now and now dragonforce will be the dominating power metal band for some time to come. best show ever. wolf was good as well.
[May 1,2006 12:19pm - pam ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:This is 100% the case. About 80% of the Dragonforce fanbase are kids or n00bs (listening to metalcore for about 3 years) who think this music is some novelty, even though Dragonforce simply steal the music of Euro power metal bands for the past decade and play it a little faster. I also like how their fans run around filming videos with swords, basically they are the new LARP.
well put.
[May 1,2006 12:33pm - niccolai ""]
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Where did he get that moser custom shop templar?
[May 1,2006 12:34pm - pam ""]
I think he's showing you with his mouth gesture.
[May 1,2006 12:36pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
matt tnr said:dragonforce was the best show i have ever seen in my entire life. anyone who puts down dragonforce and boasts gamma ray feel just as im sure gamma ray feels: pissed that dragonforce is younger, faster, and over all just a thousands times more talented than they ever were. and please don't play the metal elitist card with claiming points about how you listen to gamma ray 20 years ago. that was then, this is now and now dragonforce will be the dominating power metal band for some time to come. best show ever. wolf was good as well.
Best show you have ever seen in your entire life? Why don't you think about that statement for awhile. Apparently, you haven't seen many shows.
Gamma Ray wasn't around 20 years ago, you stupid squib. And my opinion is not 'elitist'. Your opinion is trendy and sensationalist. Next time you get into a band, that will become 'the best show you've ever seen in your life', I guarantee it.
How much 'talent' does it take to simply take the ideas of other bands? Do you honestly think all of DragonForce's melodies and riffs are original and talented? That they just made up this style? Also, Dragonforce is lyrically the WEAKEST band ever and cannot even create their own songtitles, but these are more minor quips.
They do not have more talent than Gamma Ray. Dragonforce themselves would slap you across the face for making that statement. I think I'll take their side. I'll now return you to your local swingset where you can listen to your Dragonforce, Trivium and Nightwish, fucking newb.
[May 1,2006 12:39pm - pam ""]
owned.
[May 1,2006 12:39pm - watchmaker666 ""]
owned
[May 1,2006 12:39pm - pam ""]
hah!
[May 1,2006 12:40pm - watchmaker666 ""]
send me another psychic message
[May 1,2006 12:43pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Hey Pam, The Haunted are better than Slayer. They are faster and Slayer is soooo jealous.
[May 1,2006 12:45pm - CraigForACurse ""]
i admit its alittle ridiculous that all these kids are getting into dragonforce who have never even heard power metal before, but im not going to hate dragonforce for it. i thought their cd's were good and they were good live. yeah theyre not original, noone is anymore. name a band thats new and totally original
[May 1,2006 12:50pm - Cecchini @ UML ""]
matt tnr said:dragonforce was the best show i have ever seen in my entire life. anyone who puts down dragonforce and boasts gamma ray feel just as im sure gamma ray feels: pissed that dragonforce is younger, faster, and over all just a thousands times more talented than they ever were. and please don't play the metal elitist card with claiming points about how you listen to gamma ray 20 years ago. that was then, this is now and now dragonforce will be the dominating power metal band for some time to come. best show ever. wolf was good as well.
Let me start off by saying that I realllly like Dragonforce, and I realllly like GammaRay.
Anyway,
1) I highly doubt Gamma Ray is pissed at Dragonforce for being "younger and faster and more talented", why? Because well... they aren't.... Sure they are younger, but they aren't really that much faster and certainly aren't more talented. Dragonforce's guitar players arent the shit like everyone thinks they are, they are flashy and over the top and thats what gives them their appeal, but they certainly aren't breaking any guitar player molds with what they do. Gamma Ray has awesome leads, awesome melodies and overall very well constructed metal songs.
2) As mentioned before me, Gamma Ray has not been around for 20 years. Educate yourself on power metal before you open your maw and say something that makes you look like a clown.
3) I highly doubt Dragonforce will 'dominate' the power metal scene. Iced Earth, Rhapsody and Blind Guardian have had a stronger and more steady following for years, Dragonforce is going to be a flash in the pan band over here. There is a really strong buzz about them now, but don't expect it to last.
4) Saying that this was "the best show ever" is pretty dumb, and proves your pretty dumb.... The other prattle you spewed in that little paragraph further confirmed that fact.
Like I said, I really like Dragonforce, I think its good fun over the top power metal. However people every where are licking their nuts like they are the going to be the greatest band ever, they aren't and people getting like that takes the fun out of them as it does with any band. Just enjoy it for what it is, don't make it something it's not.
[May 1,2006 12:51pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
But here is the thing, I never said I hated Dragonforce. I've been listening to them since their demo tape. I wonder if Matt TNR can say the same?
I merely pointed out that they are a trendy band with a lot of young fans who have not been into metal for long, and will not likely stay into metal for long, and that, for the most part, act as if this is such a novely and melodic power metal has not existed forever.
Off to my Elitist Workshop now.
[May 1,2006 12:51pm - Cecchini @ UML ""]
Oh yea and I play in a power metal band, and we're faster and younger than Danzig..... what does that have to do with anything? I dunno.
But as I was saying Iced Earth > Dragonforce
[May 1,2006 12:54pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Cecchini @ UML said:Oh yea and I play in a power metal band, and we're faster and younger than Danzig..... what does that have to do with anything? I dunno.
I agree, you guys pwn Danzig and will own Microsoft in five years.
Oh yeah, and I just realized, Decrepit Birth is the BEST DEATH METAL BAND EVAR B/C THEY ARE MORE BR00TAL TECHNICAL AND FASTER THAN DEATH AND SUFFOCATION ZOMG!!!!
[May 1,2006 12:59pm - pam ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:Hey Pam, The Haunted are better than Slayer. They are faster and Slayer is soooo jealous.
hahaha.
I am listening to your band right now :nuke:
[May 1,2006 1:02pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
pam said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:Hey Pam, The Haunted are better than Slayer. They are faster and Slayer is soooo jealous.
hahaha.
I am listening to your band right now :nuke:
Nice, I'm glad someone is! :bow:
[May 1,2006 1:02pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
Mortician is the best death metal band because their drummer can hold a really fast blast forever.
[May 1,2006 1:03pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
oh yeah... i for got the obligatory "LOL!"
... LOL!!!!!11111111111111
[May 1,2006 1:03pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
TheGreatSpaldino said:Mortician is the best death metal band because their drummer can hold a really fast blast forever.
Did you mean the real drummer or the computer program? :spineyes:
[May 1,2006 1:07pm - pam ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:pam said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:Hey Pam, The Haunted are better than Slayer. They are faster and Slayer is soooo jealous.
hahaha.
I am listening to your band right now :nuke:
Nice, I'm glad someone is! :bow:
What are you guys doing on the 13th of May?
[May 1,2006 1:09pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:TheGreatSpaldino said:Mortician is the best death metal band because their drummer can hold a really fast blast forever.
Did you mean the real drummer or the computer program? :spineyes:
are you kidding me?! of course im talking about the real drummer... that drummer is too awesome and real sounding to be a computer program... i mean... just listen to it. BABABABADABDADAFDDADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADDADAADADADADADDADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADDADADAA CHSHH!!!! BABAAFADADADADADADADADADDABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBDADADADADADADA CHSHS!!11111 (thats blast beat, crash, blast, double bass, blast, crash if you didnt get it)
[May 1,2006 1:12pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
pam said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:pam said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:Hey Pam, The Haunted are better than Slayer. They are faster and Slayer is soooo jealous.
hahaha.
I am listening to your band right now :nuke:
Nice, I'm glad someone is! :bow:
What are you guys doing on the 13th of May?
Aggh, I'm looking at the calendar I keep and it's marked as a no-show day, someone must have some plans that night. Damnitall.
[May 1,2006 1:14pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
TheGreatSpaldino said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:TheGreatSpaldino said:Mortician is the best death metal band because their drummer can hold a really fast blast forever.
Did you mean the real drummer or the computer program? :spineyes:
are you kidding me?! of course im talking about the real drummer... that drummer is too awesome and real sounding to be a computer program... i mean... just listen to it. BABABABADABDADAFDDADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADDADAADADADADADDADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADDADADAA CHSHH!!!! BABAAFADADADADADADADADADDABBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBDADADADADADADA CHSHS!!11111 (thats blast beat, crash, blast, double bass, blast, crash if you didnt get it)
Oh I got it, you sly devil.
[May 1,2006 1:14pm - pam ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:pam said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:pam said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:Hey Pam, The Haunted are better than Slayer. They are faster and Slayer is soooo jealous.
hahaha.
I am listening to your band right now :nuke:
Nice, I'm glad someone is! :bow:
What are you guys doing on the 13th of May?
Aggh, I'm looking at the calendar I keep and it's marked as a no-show day, someone must have some plans that night. Damnitall.
nnnooooooo
[May 1,2006 1:18pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
pam said:nnnooooooo
I know, huh.
Well I'm setting up two more shows after we play the 5/20 and 6/6/6, one for late June and one for late July (the late July date will hopefully be some big oldschool names, or at least I am working towards that). I'll put you down for a slot once I get more info, StR hasn't played up north of Boston yet, eh?
[May 1,2006 1:29pm - pam ""]
No not really. We're not even a year old yet, I will get you down to New Bedford asap. Jon's going to shit himself when he hears you guys.
[May 1,2006 1:32pm - matt tnr ""]
hahahahahahaha, i just pissed off a bunch of 30yr old guys who live in their parents basement and get together every saturday night to play D'n'D. sorry for stating the obvious. i saw iced earth last year and they sucked. old and boring. however, their backdrop kicked the shit out of dragonforces. and dragonforce has been popular over here for some time now so a "flash in the pan"? i think not.
[May 1,2006 1:33pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
Nice, yeah, if you want the whole demos, just let me know and I can email them or something. We've never gotten a chance to play with any of the bands down there so it would be an honor.
[May 1,2006 1:38pm - pam ""]
I harbor secret desire to be in a dirty oldschool thrashband, I live vicariously through booking them...the pleasure is all mine. I definately want the demo. AIM transfer might be quicker?
[May 1,2006 1:42pm - Cecchini @ UML ""]
matt tnr said:hahahahahahaha, i just pissed off a bunch of 30yr old guys who live in their parents basement and get together every saturday night to play D'n'D. sorry for stating the obvious. i saw iced earth last year and they sucked. old and boring. however, their backdrop kicked the shit out of dragonforces. and dragonforce has been popular over here for some time now so a "flash in the pan"? i think not.
Actually I'm 22 and in class. so
stfu n00b lolz
[May 1,2006 1:45pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""]
matt tnr said:hahahahahahaha, i just pissed off a bunch of 30yr old guys who live in their parents basement and get together every saturday night to play D'n'D. sorry for stating the obvious.
Whoah there sailor bill!
1. You haven't pissed us off, so ease up on all the self-credit.
2. Some of Dragonforce are in their 30s. There goes your argument.
3. Some of Dragonforce play D&D. So now they aren't cool either.
4. You make fun of D&D, but listen to a band called DRAGONforce. Are you a hypocrite often, or just on weekdays?
5. You probably live six blocks from me. Come to my basement and play D&D with me, I'll let you listen to all the power metal you've been missing. I promise some of it won't be boring (I'm not a big Iced Earth fan either).
6. You are 20 years old, and play in a metalcore band.
7. I rest my case.
8. Thanks for playing.
[May 1,2006 1:45pm - the_reverend ""]
DrinkHardThrashHard said:TheGreatSpaldino said:Mortician is the best death metal band because their drummer can hold a really fast blast forever.
Did you mean the real drummer or the computer program? :spineyes:
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[May 1,2006 1:45pm - brian_dc ""]
matt tnr said:hahahahahahaha, i just pissed off a bunch of 30yr old guys who live in their parents basement and get together every saturday night to play D'n'D. sorry for stating the obvious. i saw iced earth last year and they sucked. old and boring. however, their backdrop kicked the shit out of dragonforces. and dragonforce has been popular over here for some time now so a "flash in the pan"? i think not.
it's been said...but...I'm 22, I live in my own apartment...I've never played D'n'D. And I still think that you are a trend jumping douce...
what does that make me?
When I first heard Dragonforce I thought it was great. What I like most about it is that it got me listening to more of my old power metal albums. I've been listening to Blind Guardian (>Iced Earth) non-stop lately and wouldn't have it any other way.
[May 1,2006 1:48pm - the_reverend ""]
the best backdrop ever goes to turbo negro.
gladiators fighting, planes dropping bombs, tanks, guns, etc.. and then in the back, a little rainbow coming out of a cloud.
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