NEMHF Day III: recap thread[views:45949][posts:183]the Palladium (Worcester, Ma) - [randomshots][a_love_ends_suicide][bronx_casket_company][burn_in_silence][byzantine][cannae][dragonforce][gamma_ray][hypersolid][inked_in_blood][into_eternity][kid_deposit_triumph][light_this_city][mercury_switch][protest_the_hero][sanctity][withered][wolf][xdeathstarx][3][bloodlined_calligraphy][born_victim][cellador][daughters][doomriders][folly][goat_horn][phoenix_mourning][the_miles_between][torn_asunder][xlooking_forwardx][yakuza] _________________________________ [May 1,2006 11:46pm - sxealex ""] i didnt say anything about you guys arguing |
| _________________________________ [May 1,2006 11:47pm - sxealex ""] oh you meant the slowlypeeling dood |
| _____________________________________________ [May 1,2006 11:48pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Nah man, I was just saying when I see people say "if you like it, eat it up, otherwise just don't listen to it", that doesn't always happen, you know? Sometimes we discuss it too. No worries. |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2006 12:09am - sxealex ""] [img] |
| _____________________________________________ [May 2,2006 12:10am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Hahaha. Alright, now we are talking. |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2006 12:11am - sxealex ""] that took me way too long |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2006 12:12am - sxealex ""] this has just made me realize that gimp is awesome tho |
| ________________________________ [May 2,2006 12:28am - retzam ""] Hmmm, I'm puzzled why Dragonforce gets so much hate. Most powermetal bands are schtick, so I don't know why people criticize Dragonforce's schtick. Secondly, they are all great at their instruments, and I'm surprised no one in here has mentioned how great ZP's voice is. He may just be another powermetal singer with borderline hilarious fantasy lyrics, but if you don't think he's a great singer, I'm kind of at a loss. He's just as good as the singers of so many powermetal bands mentioned in this thread, including (and I am referring to the singer as they were/are in their prime, just like ZP appears to be now) Fabio Lione, Luca Turrilli, Kai Hansen, Hansi Kursch (yeah, completely different style, I know), Michael Kiske, Tobias Sammet, etc. ZP is great, he belts out very very high stuff pretty consistently, which is very difficult on the vocal chords, especially considering the fact that he doesn't appear to make use of a falsetto except on the really high harmonies on the album. He was spot on at metalfest, and so were all the guitar solos. Obviously they take a lot from other bands, but Dragonforce have a very very recognizable sound (I've never heard a band that sounds as much influenced by video game music as they are), so doesn't the fact that they as a unit are very recognizable constitute some originality? I mean, try to disagree with it, but I'm telling you right now, play me 20 different songs by 20 different power metal bands and I'll tell you which one is Dragonforce. Play me 100 different songs buy 100 different power metal bands and I'll tell you which one is Dragonforce. And I only own one album, so I won't be recognizing the song necessarily, but I'll definitely be recognizing the sound. And regarding their songs being very similar in structure, style, chord progressions (and yes, even melodies sometimes), yep, true, completely true. But their third album, from the little I've heard from it sounds like they are evolving musically as every band should, and getting better at more unique songwriting. Call me crazy, but I don't think Dragonforce is a "flash in the pan". I think their gonna keep going and keep being recognized for a while now. And I think it's silly to think they are flash in the pan just because they got really popular all of sudden and have a huge following of "n00bs". There was a band back in the 60s that became an overnight success playing sappy pop tunes ripped off from Elvis and their favorite Blues artists, attracting a huge American following of "n00b" rock and roll fans. They then went on to release albums like Revolver, Rubber Soul, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, and Abbey Road... sooo... anything can happen, right? Obviously, it's absurdly unlikely that Dragonforce are going to be the next Beatles, but, hopefully you guys get what I'm saying. That said, personally, I enjoyed seeing the first US appearance by these guys, cause they rock soooo hard :newhorns: And, I've gone and done it again: I've rambled for about 15 minutes now, and I'm sure no more than 2 or 3 people are gonna be patient enough to read it. |
| _____________________________ [May 2,2006 12:51am - pam ""] I'm not reading that, but only because I vowed to stop reading Dragonforce analyzing earlier. I would like to state that I do NOT hate Dragonforce. I just don't give a shit about them. |
| _____________________________________ [May 2,2006 1:04am - the_reverend ""] retzam you are right. I'm going back in time and labeling them n00bz. thanks for the new mission |
| ________________________________ [May 2,2006 1:16am - sxealex ""] REV! REVIEWS DICK HEAD! |
| _____________________________________ [May 2,2006 1:33am - the_reverend ""] oh shit, you probably missed the fact that I'm doing a radioshow. there is some thread about it on this board somewhere. |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2006 3:57am - brian_dc ""] so...this Protest the Hero CD is the most confusing thing I've encountered in awhile. Where the fuck did they come from? |
| _______________________________ [May 2,2006 6:57am - retzam ""] pam said:I'm not reading that, but only because I vowed to stop reading Dragonforce analyzing earlier. I would like to state that I do NOT hate Dragonforce. I just don't give a shit about them. I don't blame you, I wouldn't read it either, this thread isn't going anywhere. I'm just glad I posted it. |
| _________________________________ [May 2,2006 8:30am - SteveOTB ""] brian_dc said:so...this Protest the Hero CD is the most confusing thing I've encountered in awhile. Where the fuck did they come from? I watched them on Sunday and I was pretty impressed because they mixed fucking everything I swear. I like when bands don't stick to one certain style. |
| ____________________________________________ [May 2,2006 9:26am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] retzam said:Hmmm, I'm puzzled why Dragonforce gets so much hate. Most powermetal bands are schtick, so I don't know why people criticize Dragonforce's schtick. Secondly, they are all great at their instruments, and I'm surprised no one in here has mentioned how great ZP's voice is. He may just be another powermetal singer with borderline hilarious fantasy lyrics, but if you don't think he's a great singer, I'm kind of at a loss. He's just as good as the singers of so many powermetal bands mentioned in this thread, including (and I am referring to the singer as they were/are in their prime, just like ZP appears to be now) Fabio Lione, Luca Turrilli, Kai Hansen, Hansi Kursch (yeah, completely different style, I know), Michael Kiske, Tobias Sammet, etc. ZP is great, he belts out very very high stuff pretty consistently, which is very difficult on the vocal chords, especially considering the fact that he doesn't appear to make use of a falsetto except on the really high harmonies on the album. He was spot on at metalfest, and so were all the guitar solos. Obviously they take a lot from other bands, but Dragonforce have a very very recognizable sound (I've never heard a band that sounds as much influenced by video game music as they are), so doesn't the fact that they as a unit are very recognizable constitute some originality? I mean, try to disagree with it, but I'm telling you right now, play me 20 different songs by 20 different power metal bands and I'll tell you which one is Dragonforce. Play me 100 different songs buy 100 different power metal bands and I'll tell you which one is Dragonforce. And I only own one album, so I won't be recognizing the song necessarily, but I'll definitely be recognizing the sound. And regarding their songs being very similar in structure, style, chord progressions (and yes, even melodies sometimes), yep, true, completely true. But their third album, from the little I've heard from it sounds like they are evolving musically as every band should, and getting better at more unique songwriting. Call me crazy, but I don't think Dragonforce is a "flash in the pan". I think their gonna keep going and keep being recognized for a while now. And I think it's silly to think they are flash in the pan just because they got really popular all of sudden and have a huge following of "n00bs". There was a band back in the 60s that became an overnight success playing sappy pop tunes ripped off from Elvis and their favorite Blues artists, attracting a huge American following of "n00b" rock and roll fans. They then went on to release albums like Revolver, Rubber Soul, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, and Abbey Road... sooo... anything can happen, right? Obviously, it's absurdly unlikely that Dragonforce are going to be the next Beatles, but, hopefully you guys get what I'm saying. That said, personally, I enjoyed seeing the first US appearance by these guys, cause they rock soooo hard :newhorns: And, I've gone and done it again: I've rambled for about 15 minutes now, and I'm sure no more than 2 or 3 people are gonna be patient enough to read it. None of us said we hated them. |
| ______________________________________________ [May 2,2006 11:04am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] I said I hated them but that's just because I hate power metal as a whole. |
| _____________________________________________ [May 2,2006 11:05am - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Damnit. You did. |
| _____________________________________ [May 2,2006 12:20pm - i_am_not_me ""] brian_dc said:so...this Protest the Hero CD is the most confusing thing I've encountered in awhile. Where the fuck did they come from? I skipped Protest the Hero. I forget why. I think I had to take a monstrous shit or something. ...or were they on during Torn Asunder? |
| ______________________________________ [May 2,2006 1:07pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] On a side note, anyone notice that the bass player didn't play that crazy slap bass solo, the keyboards did, and they tried to hide it by talking to the fans at that point, but if you looked and listened you clearly heard the slap bass solo but only saw the bassists plucking, and his fret hand was only moving in a normal up down fasion, clearly not playing the solo. but other than that I liked the show, besides of couse the shitty sound sytem, fuck the palladium. |
| _______________________________ [May 2,2006 3:25pm - retzam ""] I like your screen name Y Draig, kickass song. |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2006 5:22pm - CarrotsandSticks ""] I thought all the late night bands had great sound....atleast compared to all bands before 7. |
| _________________________________________ [May 2,2006 8:09pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] Y_Ddraig_Goch said:On a side note, anyone notice that the bass player didn't play that crazy slap bass solo, the keyboards did, and they tried to hide it by talking to the fans at that point, but if you looked and listened you clearly heard the slap bass solo but only saw the bassists plucking, and his fret hand was only moving in a normal up down fasion, clearly not playing the solo. but other than that I liked the show, besides of couse the shitty sound sytem, fuck the palladium. in Body Breakdown? thats a damned shame... that part sounds so sick |
| __________________________________ [May 2,2006 9:32pm - dreadkill ""] i didn't recognizee half the bands on the bill this year. |
| ______________________________________ [May 3,2006 2:41am - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] retzam said:I like your screen name Y Draig, kickass song. my aim screen name? The moonspell song, or this user name, the Hollenthon song. either way both are awesome songs, and if you haven't heard Hollenthon check em out, Symphonic Folk Black metal |
| _______________________________ [May 3,2006 2:46pm - retzam ""] Y_Ddraig_Goch said:retzam said:I like your screen name Y Draig, kickass song. my aim screen name? The moonspell song, or this user name, the Hollenthon song. either way both are awesome songs, and if you haven't heard Hollenthon check em out, Symphonic Folk Black metal Sorry, I didn't mean screen name, I mean user name. Hollenthon does kick ass, but I only have With Vilest Of Worms To Dwell. I've heard a little off the first album. Sounds great, and I hear it's more diverse musically. |
| _______________________________ [May 3,2006 2:47pm - retzam ""] But what Moonspell song did you use as your screenname? I'm curious because I like Moonspell and Hollenthon and they're both bands you don't hear talked about very much. |
| __________________________________ [May 3,2006 3:45pm - matt tnr ""] hahaha, sorry i dont update my rttp profile daily. i have other things to do. |
| _____________________________________ [May 3,2006 4:51pm - the_reverend ""] *cries* |
| __________________________________ [May 3,2006 5:29pm - matt tnr ""] hahaha i love you rev. |
| ______________________________________ [May 3,2006 5:48pm - goratory nli ""] niccolai said:[img] Where did he get that moser custom shop templar? from the Moser custom shop. our last tour routed us right through Neal's area so he finished it up early for me so i could pick it up in person. Neal is an amazing guitar maker and a really great person, he took the time to show us the step by step on how he makes his guitars, i highly recommend buying one. |
| ____________________________________ [May 3,2006 5:52pm - KeithMutiny ""] metalcore kids dont wear origin shirts... |
| _________________________________ [May 3,2006 5:57pm - niccolai ""] goratory nli said:niccolai said:[img] Where did he get that moser custom shop templar? from the Moser custom shop. our last tour routed us right through Neal's area so he finished it up early for me so i could pick it up in person. Neal is an amazing guitar maker and a really great person, he took the time to show us the step by step on how he makes his guitars, i highly recommend buying one. Yea, I new Neal and the rest of MCS built it, it was just odd to me that you knew about them. Not a very common name around the new angland area considering the lack of dealers. Aside form Me and Ken Patin of Yavcon guitars (he laminates for Neal), I didn't think anyone really even knew about them. Yes, he does build a fine guitar. I'm sure he went over all of his crazy mexican luthery techniques and neck angle formulas with you (lol, the man is a machine). as for ordering one, way ahead of you man :doublehorns: I've had an arachnid ultra on the drawing board for over a year now, and I'm currently debating over ordering and archtop SS from them or an ESP horizon. I've been a member of the Moser custom shop forum for some time... you should consider registering and maybe throwing up some pictures of the guitar. everyone there (including Neal and earleen) would appreciate it. Is that an all mahogany SS? how's the neck thickness? also, have you had to re oil it yet? As for everyone else, you should check out MCS guitars. Awsome quality, and awsome people. Neal and Earleen even sent me a free shirt when my house caught on fire. What other guitar company does that? |
| ______________________________________ [May 4,2006 2:02am - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] retzam said:But what Moonspell song did you use as your screenname? I'm curious because I like Moonspell and Hollenthon and they're both bands you don't hear talked about very much. From Lowering Skies. Moonspell and Hollenthon are on my tope ten list of favorite bands, If you haven't picked up the new Moonspell cd do so now, it is far more amazing than all other releases to date. |