the boycott thread[views:15502][posts:204]___________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:21pm - dreadkill ""] i just come here for the trannies. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:22pm - dreadkill ""] in addition to being sexist, i'm also a nazi, a circus clown, a bird fucker, and a polar bear. i'm a modern day renaissance man. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:28pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Sad thing is, Moe must be white. In over 4 years working in the ghetto I've never once offended anyone black with the word "nigger". Worry about yourself, let others fend for themselves. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:30pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] STOP RUINING HARDCORE!!! |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:45pm - mOe ""] yea, sorry...i'm wicked white, d00d...but i have some black friends back at home and what you said was fucked up |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:48pm - ArrowHead nli ""] mOe said:yea, sorry...i'm wicked white, d00d...but i have some black friends back at home and what you said was fucked up A white kid called his white friend a nigger. Go ahead, ask your black friends how fucked up that is. You're clueless. I've dated a jamaican and a haitian. My good friends are african. I worked in a ghetto of mostly haitian, african, and cape verdians. No employee, friend, or girlfriend of mine has ever been offended when I use the word nigger. I use it a LOT, too. Maybe you might need to embrace the fact that you're too fucking sensitive on the behalf of others. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:50pm - mOe ""] hahahahahahahaa |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:54pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Good comeback. You're an idiot. What band are you in again? I want to make sure I stay away from you. Your heart might bleed all over my nice new shoes. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:55pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Further irony, I bet I'd like your nigger friends a lot more than I like you. OH SNAP! He said it again! What an ignorant asshole. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 1:56pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] Normally I'd leave it alone, but Moe your myspace page is called "dat niggah." |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:00pm - mOe ""] this much is true, but its just the age old double standard of me being able to use that word as a term of endearment and you not being able to and P.S. if you went into my neighborhood and called ANYONE that you wouldnt live to go on RTTP and tell about it |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:01pm - SacreligionNLI ""] you're all a bunch of homo honkeys |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:07pm - ArrowHead nli ""] mOe said: and P.S. if you went into my neighborhood and called ANYONE that you wouldnt live to go on RTTP and tell about it Nice assumption. Apparently, you don't know me. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:08pm - mOe ""] *wishes he were black* |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:09pm - ArrowHead nli ""] mOe said:this much is true, but its just the age old double standard of me being able to use that word as a term of endearment and you not being able to That's not a double standard. It's ignorance and hipocrisy. A white guy calling a white guy a nigger is funny, akward, and parody. If you don't see that at this point, I give up all hope on you. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:11pm - ArrowHead nli ""] mOe said:*wishes he were black* Idiot. My god. Heritage and skin color are different things. You wish you could put your entire family tree through centuries of struggle and strife so you could run around calling yourself a nigger? Try being happy just being an american, retard. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:12pm - mOe ""] oh, man this is rich |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:12pm - dreadkill ""] i am a real american fight for the rights of every man |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:18pm - ArrowHead nli ""] mOe said:oh, man this is rich Let us in on your joke, please. Otherwise, if feel like I'm running a race one-legged. You've yet to make any points, except by speaking for your friends and making assumptions about myself. Why don't you try using your brain and debating your opinion? Or are you afraid someone might challenge your beliefs? |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:21pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] ArrowHead nli said:mOe said:oh, man this is rich Let us in on your joke, please. Otherwise, if feel like I'm running a race one-legged. You've yet to make any points, except by speaking for your friends and making assumptions about myself. Why don't you try using your brain and debating your opinion? Or are you afraid someone might challenge your beliefs? He is of African-American descent. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:37pm - ArrowHead nli ""] That explains everything a bit. So, you're a moron, and feel that by calling josh a nigger I'm somehow hurting you? Did I get the gist? I'm racist, and pre-judge people based on how they look, so I'm guilty of the years of opression african americans went through, right? You say I wouldn't say nigger in your neighborhood without getting killed, eh? You try being white in mine, and see how long you last trusting everyone equally regardless of color. Different worlds, yet both contain the word "nigger". I would never judge you because your black. Actually, we've met many times, and I was pretty damned nice to you, doncha think? If we'd met in the middle of Brockton (or would you prefer I say worcester?) , however, I wouldn't ever think of approaching you or fucking with you. Amazing, how environment plays a role! I will however judge you based on the fact that you jump to conclusions, feel discrimination that's not there, and can't even argue a point in writing. I wouldn't call that a nigger, just stupid. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:40pm - BornSoVile ""] I for the record don't have a problem being called Nigger. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:41pm - horror_tang ""] Cracker!!! |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:42pm - ArrowHead nli ""] I'm scared to click that link. Worksafe? |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:42pm - kessaris ""] [img] This is what Moe really looks like |
| _____________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:42pm - mOe ""] yeah, i have a black second cousin...twiced removed! |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:43pm - ArrowHead nli ""] I thought moe was a husky kid with dreadlocks? I must have him confused with someone else. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:43pm - kessaris ""] dude, just stop saying nigger, lol |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:43pm - horror_tang ""] ArrowHead nli said:I'm scared to click that link. Worksafe? It has one swear in it. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:44pm - ArrowHead nli ""] mOe said:yeah, i have a black second cousin...twiced removed! Yeah, and my great great great great grandfather might've owned yours. And for some reason, you have issues with ME for this. Seriously, get over yourself. In case no one has told you this yet, bornsovile IS a nigger. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:44pm - kessaris ""] this is the best day of my life |
| ________________________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:46pm - Keith@bristolcommunitycollege ""] you can protest kenny by dressing up as indians and throwing all the tea in the harbor... |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:46pm - horror_tang ""] [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:46pm - ArrowHead nli ""] kessaris said:dude, just stop saying nigger, lol I'm going to change the way I speak to appease a minority group I don't belong to? A minority within a minority for that matter? As you probably know, slang and dialect is something you develop. It's not usually a conscious choice. I don't call anyone black a nigger. I never have, never will. I DO use the word a hell of a lot, and I'll be damned if someone is going to take it as an affront. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 2:47pm - horror_tang ""] Keith@bristolcommunitycollege said:you can protest kenny by dressing up as indians and throwing all the tea in the harbor... I take offense to that because I like tea and if you even mention Earl Grey tea... |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 3:02pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Okay, I tire of this one sided social sciences debate against someone who obviously came into it with an agenda. I'm off to get drugs. I leave you all with one final thought: Words are expression. As musicians we all appreciate that. The quickest way to kill that expression is to try and limit those words. Be offended, agree, whatever. But remember, offense, sympathy, whatever might be the intent of the expression. To try and take it away from anyone is the quickest way to completely destroy the music scene. Tipper Gore tried it once, and thankfully lost. This isn't just directed at Moe. This is directed at anyone who thinks the best way to react to something offensive is to keep the person from being offensive. You don't like it when I say nigger? Fine. Figure out why. Attack THOSE issues. I could stop saying it, but your issues will STILL be there. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 3:15pm - brian_dc ""] just checking in to remind everyone that I fucked up in titling this a "boycott"...though I don't anyone's thinking about the list thing anymore. no time to read all of this...have a feeling it's not worth the time anyway. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 3:34pm - dreadkill ""] brian_dc said:just checking in to remind everyone that I fucked up in titling this a "boycott"...though I don't anyone's thinking about the list thing anymore. no time to read all of this...have a feeling it's not worth the time anyway. your feeling is correct sir. it's a waste of time, but i still keep posting in it. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 3:53pm - Josh_Martin ""] Moe's yearbook photo: [img] |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 3:54pm - Josh_Martin ""] If Kenny = Hitler Nick TOC = Neville Chamberlin |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 4:25pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] What I don't understand was why moe didn't feel the need to comment on this thread until Pete said Nigger. Kenny Lanning's business methods have an effect on your band and bands you play with. In case everyone forgot during the bitch sessions this thread is about how Kenny Lanning fucks over bands and a number of those bands uniting to prevent him from doing that in the future. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 5:04pm - Joe/NotCommon ""] Kenny promises bands money (and other things) and never follows through when the show doesn't do as well as he had hoped (which happens from time to time). Instead of dipping into his own pocket (the responsible thing to do) he takes off and the bands are left to fend for themselves. I don't think chasing him out of town is bad at all, he obviously is not going to change and doesn't care about contracts either since he didn't pay Vital Remains or Incantation (who I cannot imagine played without a contract). Sending him some list of demands is kind of silly, if a list of bands ever sent that to me I would laugh and throw it away. His reputation in the local underground metal scene is ruined, I don't really see him trying to book smaller gigs anymore because he has run out of alot of options. If he wants to continue trying to book larger acts, let the palladium handle the heat (after all Kenny continually claims he works for them when he talks to bands or their agents). I doubt the Palladium will do his shows anymore either, since they had to dip into their bar money to cover his irresponsibility. I pretty much think Kenny is done, but I personally would do my part to keep him out of Boston area venues because the last thing metal needs around here is that filthy prick ruining things with his bullshit. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 6:07pm - BestialOnslaught ""] BUT JOE, HE'S ONLY RIPPED OFF A DOZEN OR SO BANDS, HOW UNFAIR OF YOU NOT TO ALLOW HIM A CHANCE TO REDEEM HIMSELF AND BECOME A MODEL PROMOTER!!! YOU OPPRESSIVE, HATEFUL, VENGEFUL ASSHOLE!!! |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 6:57pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Hahaha. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 19,2005 6:59pm - eddie ""] BestialOnslaught said:BUT JOE, HE'S ONLY RIPPED OFF A DOZEN OR SO BANDS, HOW UNFAIR OF YOU NOT TO ALLOW HIM A CHANCE TO REDEEM HIMSELF AND BECOME A MODEL PROMOTER!!! YOU OPPRESSIVE, HATEFUL, VENGEFUL ASSHOLE!!! ha that sums up half the thread |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 7:09pm - the_reverend ""] whoah... moe's black? I thought blue what the black guy (and also the girl) in the band. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 7:14pm - the_reverend ""] if someone comes back and tells me that blue is also the hippie of the band, my mind would be blown |
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| __________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 7:44pm - Dankill ""] Jesus Tapdancing Christ! What the fuck is this Sociology debate shit?! Hey Taste of Cigarettes, Let me drop a factor in that I think you've forgotten to rap your brain around. We are talking about a drunk, crackhead, lying peice of shit. Do you seriously believe that he will know what to do with a legal contract, let alone your bleeding heart liberal bullshit "Let's better him" act? This guy will not only never change his stripes, HE'S TOO FUCKING STUPID TO EVEN KNOW WHY HE SHOULD! The most use he'd get out of one of your bright ideas is to wipe his ass with the document after he clogs up the can at Bruburgers for the 4895th time and then piss himself on the way home to score some rock. I'd love to see you guys get him in a court of law without the cops having to track him down. God, you sound like a court ordered shrink explaining about how some guy should get parole because he isn't gonna touch kids anymore. Again. While on parole. Don't get me wrong, you may be a nice guy and all, but your higher morals don't amount to shit when you're dealing with someone with a total lack of morals, let alone the brainpower to even continue breathing on his own. The point of Josh's "action" (There, it's not a boycott anymore. Shaddup.) is to organize as many bands, bookers, clubs and people within the local metal/hardcore scene so they know if see (or smell) his two timing ass around, to send him packing until he has nowhere left to go and no one left to book. It's time to wash the garbage out of this scene and help real promoters book shows that work. Doing this will make the scene stronger and more united. In short, if you wanna explain diction to a guy with an 8th grade education level, be my guest, Mr Mircle Worker. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 19,2005 7:49pm - the_reverend ""] there are already shirts out trying to capitalize on this thread. [img] [img] |