Tookie Williams execution[views:44925][posts:250]_______________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 1:33pm - Messerschmitt ""] USA for USA! |
| ______________________________ [Dec 13,2005 1:47pm - BMR ""] BornSoVile said:hungta‘bleed said:I definatly wasn't talking about the wobblies and the leftist labor movement groups and organizers of the early 20th century when I called the protesters 'faggo-leftist ACLU types. I'm talking about the modern, hard line, mentally deranged leftists who'll fight for abortion rights till their death but will hold a candle light vigil out side a prison when they execute rapists, murderers, and child molesters. All I have to say about the ACLU is that they supported NAMBLA pro bono (that means FOR FREE!!). You might remember the case, it stemmed off the conviction of two fags who subsribed to NAMBLA that raped and murdered a 10 year old. Anyone who supports the ACLU is a disgrace to this country. :pukeface: If you don't like America, then leave. Trust me on this one man, that kid loves America more than just about anybody as do I. I don't like the direction this country is going, neither does he. He also doesn't say anything in there that isn't true, every bit of that is fact. To deny that a vast majority of the Left in this country is pro-abortion (the killing of a human being depending on your views) but can turn around and be against capital punishment is just stupid. This is how these people think, it's contradiction after contradiction. The ACLU, thats an entriely different story but it is a fact, they support an organization whose objective is to promote pedophilia and teach its members the "proper" way to molest a child, and also how to get away with it. To me, that's a pretty fucked up, yet this same organization's President is now a Justice of the Supreme Court. But to say that someone deson't like America based on the fact that they told the truth is just wrong. I fuckin love this place as much as anyone and so doesn't my far Right-Wing associate Mr. To Bleed. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:03pm - BornSoVile ""] Why does everyone obcess about that case so much? Maybe if the kids parents actually watched him instead of letting him play in the streets he wouldn't have been kidnapped. Shitting on the ACLU is dumb. Do you even know what it stands for? American Civil Liberties Union. Denouncing that = submitting to communism. This is America, land of the free. Rebpulicans are turning the stars and stripes into prison bars, they won't let you get that far. Thanks for supporting the downfall of liberty. Now move to Russia. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:16pm - BMR ""] Wow guy, unfortunately you need to check your facts man. The ACLU is all about shitting all over you and making sure the scum of this country (drug addicts, pedophiles, illelgal immigrants) are protected, and Average Joe American has to deal with that. Any "civil liberties" union would never go to great lengths to help withhold the downfall of American culture that we are experiencing right now. This is America, we are free to do as we choose with the acceptance that our actions have consequences under the laws of the Consititution. You show me where it says that abortion is allowed under the constitution? You show me where it says it's OK to allow people who illegally enter this country the same rights as you and I as citizens? You show me where it's OK to allow some shit stain with to much time on his hands to argue that the words "under God" should not be used in the Pledge of Allegiance. Don't get me wrong I'm not religious in the least bit, but don't you think it's a sign of the times when people can win that fight, yet if they have a religious objection to abortion, they are chastized for having their particular view point. As far as the move to Russia remark, I don't know know how I could explain to you in words how much that infuriates me, I fuckin love this place with all my fucking heart guy, for you to say that is out of line. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:20pm - paulll ""] VOTE ARNOLD DAT CAM. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:21pm - brian_dc ""] http://www.arnoldexposed.com |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:23pm - MorbidMike ""] All I have to say is fuck the ACLU they want to give full rights to the Man Boy fucking freaks whose motto is if they are 8 it's too late anyone who thinks that is cool being a pedophile of little boys I will fight fist to fist right now cause that is fucked. I will joke about many things cause I am DEATH METAL but when it comes to 40 yr old men fucking little boys I draw A very big broad line that I would love to see someone cross. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:31pm - dan nli ""] ArrowHead nli said:dan nli said:i think the main point is that its not that he is reformed and thats the reason he shouldnt die... the point is he became an actual advocate against the crimes he committed. That's called reform. Therefore the point IS that he reformed and that is why he shouldn't die. uhh no thats not what i meant. anyone can claim to be reformed but not anyone can actually show that they are reformed in a constructive way. i dont think anyone who claims to be reformed should be granted clemency, that would be completely retarded. but if you actually contribute something to society, than that would warrant clemency... |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:31pm - BornSoVile ""] BMR said:Wow guy, unfortunately you need to check your facts man. The ACLU is all about shitting all over you and making sure the scum of this country (drug addicts, pedophiles, illelgal immigrants) are protected, and Average Joe American has to deal with that. Any "civil liberties" union would never go to great lengths to help withhold the downfall of American culture that we are experiencing right now. This is America, we are free to do as we choose with the acceptance that our actions have consequences under the laws of the Consititution. You show me where it says that abortion is allowed under the constitution? You show me where it says it's OK to allow people who illegally enter this country the same rights as you and I as citizens? You show me where it's OK to allow some shit stain with to much time on his hands to argue that the words "under God" should not be used in the Pledge of Allegiance. Don't get me wrong I'm not religious in the least bit, but don't you think it's a sign of the times when people can win that fight, yet if they have a religious objection to abortion, they are chastized for having their particular view point. As far as the move to Russia remark, I don't know know how I could explain to you in words how much that infuriates me, I fuckin love this place with all my fucking heart guy, for you to say that is out of line. I worked for the fucking ACLU, don't lecture me on what they do. Stop listening to the conservative media. If your rant wasn't so jaded, I'd attempt to establish some facts but it's quite obvious that your lost. In your world without the ACLU you'd be shot for be a degenerate, it's not my fault you suck, so stop trying to proove otherwise. Why do conservatives feel the need to whine about everything they fuck up???? |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:37pm - BornSoVile ""] As far as the whole attempt to assimilate abortion and the death penalty...are you fucking serious? the pratice of civil liberties ensures that the INDIVIDUAL is represented as an INDIVIDUAL. If you had you're way, we'd all be the same, conformist society blind to any fashionable morally ethical code. Communism man, communism. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:43pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Can anyone show me where it says in the Constitution that abortion is illegal? |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:43pm - Josh_Martin ""] If only all republicans were as dumb as the ones in this thread. The ACLU defends the U.S. constitution. They defend the 1st ammendment rights of anyone from NAMBLA to the American Nazi Party. (so much for your left wing conspiracy theories, but I guess you're too young to remember the Skokie case) Right now, the ACLU is one of the few things keeping this country from turning into the USSR. Anyone against them either hates the constitution or is just plain stupid. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:45pm - BornSoVile ""] HOW DO YOU LIKE DEM APPLES |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:48pm - Josh_Martin ""] BMR said:Trust me on this one man, that kid loves America more than just about anybody as do I. I don't like the direction this country is going, neither does he. He also doesn't say anything in there that isn't true, every bit of that is fact. To deny that a vast majority of the Left in this country is pro-abortion (the killing of a human being depending on your views) but can turn around and be against capital punishment is just stupid. This is how these people think, it's contradiction after contradiction. So you're equating a poverty stricken single mom choosing to end a pregnancy with the state sanctioned killing of a human being in a flawed justice system? You're a real credit to your side. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:50pm - Josh_Martin ""] Did BMR really just say the head of NAMBLA is a supreme court justice. Holy shit, I didn't think retardation was contagious. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 3:54pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Josh_Martin said:BMR said:Trust me on this one man, that kid loves America more than just about anybody as do I. I don't like the direction this country is going, neither does he. He also doesn't say anything in there that isn't true, every bit of that is fact. To deny that a vast majority of the Left in this country is pro-abortion (the killing of a human being depending on your views) but can turn around and be against capital punishment is just stupid. This is how these people think, it's contradiction after contradiction. So you're equating a poverty stricken single mom choosing to end a pregnancy with the state sanctioned killing of a human being in a flawed justice system? You're a real credit to your side. Christ, Josh! Don't you know that the only women who get abortions are selfish sluts who don't want to deal with responsibility!? WOMEN ARE EVIL WE WENT OVER THIS BEFORE!!!! GOD!!!!! |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 4:19pm - jesse jackson ""] YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF WHINEY BITCHES SHUT UP |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 4:21pm - BornSoVile ""] hahhaha |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 4:23pm - hungta‘bleed ""] BornSoVile said:Why does everyone obcess about that case so much? Maybe if the kids parents actually watched him instead of letting him play in the streets he wouldn't have been kidnapped. Shitting on the ACLU is dumb. Do you even know what it stands for? American Civil Liberties Union. Denouncing that = submitting to communism. This is America, land of the free. . Now move to Russia. You're fucking so ignorant, and comepletely misinformed. The fucking fags that kidnapped him first stole his bike. They watched him wander around looking for it, then moved in for the kill and told the little kid "hey we know where your bike is"..the rest is history. If your gonna blame the parents for the actions of some selfish assfuckers, that just makes you an asshole. If you don't think that the ACLU is an organization that represents ONLY HARD LEFT CAUSES/GOALS/AIMS, then you my friend are viewing the world through the same Commie-Red rosie glasses that they are. You're right though, this is America, land of the Free.... But do you honestly think we should be free enough to be able to publish material about how to abduct and rape kids. NAMBLA articles describe quote "rape and escape", how to rape a kid and get away from it. If you think that our freedoms should extent to such a right, then obviously you must have a stake in the legalization child porn you fucking sicko. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 4:33pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Ad Hominem is an awesome band, not so much an awesome tactic when you want to make a point. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 4:34pm - BornSoVile ""] Again, maybe if the parents watched the kid instead of letting him roam the fucking streets, this probably wouldn't have happened. I don't care if they robbed his bike and told him where it was, let me type it for you again, PARENTS SHOULDN'T LET 10 YEAR OLDS ROAM THE FUCKING CITY STREETS UNSUPERVISED. CLARIFY THIS STATEMENT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE "If you don't think that the ACLU is an organization that represents ONLY HARD LEFT CAUSES/GOALS/AIMS, then you my friend are viewing the world through the same Commie-Red rosie glasses that they are." So, you're saying that conservatives are running the ACLU too, right? Yes, I honestly think that if this is America where absolute freedom reigns, people should legalize child porn. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 4:55pm - Josh_Martin ""] hungta‘bleed said: But do you honestly think we should be free enough to be able to publish material about how to abduct and rape kids. Yes. I want to be that free. No one can tell me what I can or can't read. Welcome to America asshole. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 4:56pm - scoracrasia ""] My mom says there are alot of black people in Korea. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 4:59pm - Josh_Martin ""] MorbidMike said:All I have to say is fuck the ACLU they want to give full rights to the Man Boy fucking freaks whose motto is if they are 8 it's too late anyone who thinks that is cool being a pedophile of little boys I will fight fist to fist right now cause that is fucked. I will joke about many things cause I am DEATH METAL but when it comes to 40 yr old men fucking little boys I draw A very big broad line that I would love to see someone cross. You = gay. You wouldn't fight anyone. Shut up. You are far from death metal. You seem pretty emo to me. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 5:41pm - diamond_dave ""] back to the original topic...i actually agree with this clown for once: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10284169/#051212a |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 6:03pm - infoterror ""] TOOKIE WAS A FUCKUP KILLING CHINESE PEOPLE "BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE" WHAT AN IDIOT EUGENICS IN ACTION GOD BLESS GOV SHWARZENEGRO |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 6:45pm - Bradness nli ""] i hope all you pinko's have a loved one killed by one of these animals, maybe then you'll wise up |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 7:57pm - ArrowHead nli ""] BMR said:Wow guy, unfortunately you need to check your facts man. The ACLU is all about shitting all over you and making sure the scum of this country (drug addicts, pedophiles, illelgal immigrants) are protected, and Average Joe American has to deal with that. Any "civil liberties" union would never go to great lengths to help withhold the downfall of American culture that we are experiencing right now. This is America, we are free to do as we choose with the acceptance that our actions have consequences under the laws of the Consititution. You show me where it says that abortion is allowed under the constitution? You show me where it says it's OK to allow people who illegally enter this country the same rights as you and I as citizens? You show me where it's OK to allow some shit stain with to much time on his hands to argue that the words "under God" should not be used in the Pledge of Allegiance. Don't get me wrong I'm not religious in the least bit, but don't you think it's a sign of the times when people can win that fight, yet if they have a religious objection to abortion, they are chastized for having their particular view point. As far as the move to Russia remark, I don't know know how I could explain to you in words how much that infuriates me, I fuckin love this place with all my fucking heart guy, for you to say that is out of line. You're an idiot, and thats more than once you've made reference to abortion. According to your own arguments, we should be held accountable under the laws of the constitution. The constitution calls for seperation of law and religion. Furthermore, the constitution provides us freedom to chose and worship whatever faith we choose. Would you, then, care to tell me where in the hell your christian views on abortion are supported by the constitution? Without faith or church, it's just a fucking fetus. At this point, you should just go to hell. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 8:00pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Bradness nli said:i hope all you pinko's have a loved one killed by one of these animals, maybe then you'll wise up Actually, I'd much rather get rid of the animals altogether. Unfortunately, by setting such a standard of eye for an eye (which I already explained) we're just breeding MORE animals. I hope you right wingers have a loved one get euthanized for a crime they didn't commit sometime. Maybe then you'll wise up as well. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 8:02pm - ArrowHead nli ""] dan nli said: uhh no thats not what i meant. anyone can claim to be reformed but not anyone can actually show that they are reformed in a constructive way. i dont think anyone who claims to be reformed should be granted clemency, that would be completely retarded. but if you actually contribute something to society, than that would warrant clemency... And your point was that through his writings, he had contributed to society. Again! That IS reform! You're completely agreeing with what I've said, but you seem to refuse to label it correctly. Why? |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 8:08pm - DJ Death ""] So far, Mr. Martin is making the most sense! Though, the ACLU, be it as they may defend the constitution, but arent showing us "both sides". Racial Profiling illimination? Thats gay. Dismembering the patriot act? That is a step in the right direction, atleast for freedoms sake. Liberal Democrats and Stubborn Repulicans are trying to rape that sacred document, especially amendment number 1. I will add my two cents: Haha Tookie. You're dead.... NOW... Lets hope your death starts a race riot. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 8:16pm - hungta‘bleed ""] BornSoVile said: Yes, I honestly think that if this is America where absolute freedom reigns, people should legalize child porn. Enough said. That’s pretty fucked up man....honestly. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 8:21pm - ArrowHead nli ""] Child porn impinges on the freedom of the innocent childred who are usually forced to participate. It's exploitive, and imposing on them. We do NOT live in a country with ABSOLUTE freedom. That would be called anarchy. We live in a country where we are granted moderated freedom, where we are free to do as we will as long as it does not take away from the equal ability of others to do so as well. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 10:12pm - HailTheLeaf ""] BMR said: To deny that a vast majority of the Left in this country is pro-abortion (the killing of a human being depending on your views) but can turn around and be against capital punishment is just stupid. This is how these people think, it's contradiction after contradiction. Contradiction? like being pro-life and supporting the death penalty...or being pro-life and shooting a doctor? The ACLU, thats an entriely different story but it is a fact, they support an organization whose objective is to promote pedophilia and teach its members the "proper" way to molest a child, and also how to get away with it. To me, that's a pretty fucked up, yet this same organization's President is now a Justice of the Supreme Court. The ACLU fights to keep the freedoms and protections that our government tries to errode away every day, from free speech to medical marijuana to environmental laws. I'm a card carrying member bitches. |
| _______________________________ [Dec 13,2005 10:49pm - BMR ""] First and foremost, I have absolutely no religious affiliation what so ever. I don't believe in God, if in the slim chance I grace his presence I'm going to have an awful lot of questions to ask about why things are the way they are. Secondly, if you believe you that child porongraphy is an acceptable form of media then you my friend are just plain fucking retarded. You call me a communist, yet I'm the one sticking up for the interests of the citizens of this country? I'm not a Conservative, I'm not a Liberal, I'm sure as shit not a Republican. I'm a plain old American who goes to work everyday to py the fucking bills. I'm pissed about the fact that everyday I have to see some fucking Brazilian who over stayed his green card make a better life then I simply because he's illegal, these mother fuckers are more protected by the government then I am, and I was fucking born here!!! Unfortunately we live in such a politicaly correct world that these scum fuckers cab't be caled out for what they are. As far as abortion. the debat will never end, if you can show me in the Constitition where it says that it is legal then I'll believe you, until then I see it as it is. The fact that the same people will support the abortion of "just a fetus" but condemn the death penalty is just contradiction. It's OK to kill something that will eventually become a human being (if it isn't already) but it's not OK to kill a living breathing person. Come on now, what the fuck is that? As far poor ole Tookie, he got what he fucking deserved, you kill 4 people, you should be given a lot more than a lethal injection, I'm an addvicate for the reinstation of torture and suffering in the method of execution. Perhaps I'm just fucking crazy, regardless my opinion is my opinion, not any other member of my band's although I know some of them feel the same way. You got an issue with it, bring it up with me, I'm not that bad of a person and I'm always down for an intelligent, researched argument. I'd rather not catch heat from a bunch of people on an internet message board about it. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 11:00pm - Bradness ""] ArrowHead nli said:Bradness nli said:i hope all you pinko's have a loved one killed by one of these animals, maybe then you'll wise up Actually, I'd much rather get rid of the animals altogether. Unfortunately, by setting such a standard of eye for an eye (which I already explained) we're just breeding MORE animals. I hope you right wingers have a loved one get euthanized for a crime they didn't commit sometime. Maybe then you'll wise up as well. name. ONE NAME of a person that, without a doubt, was innocent. ONE NAME, with a link please. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 11:30pm - DomesticTerror ""] abortion is a personal decision. capital punishment is decided by a flawed system. no logical person can compare the two...it's apples and oranges, and the paradox/hypocrite angle is a ridiculous basis for a very weak argument. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 11:43pm - DomesticTerror ""] Bradness said: name. ONE NAME of a person that, without a doubt, was innocent. ONE NAME, with a link please. http://majikthise.typepad.com/majikthise_/2005/11/texas_executed_.html there ya go. it was in the herald, too. I heard about it on weei. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 13,2005 11:50pm - BornSoVile ""] BMR said:First and foremost, I have absolutely no religious affiliation what so ever. I don't believe in God, if in the slim chance I grace his presence I'm going to have an awful lot of questions to ask about why things are the way they are. Secondly, if you believe you that child porongraphy is an acceptable form of media then you my friend are just plain fucking retarded. You call me a communist, yet I'm the one sticking up for the interests of the citizens of this country? I'm not a Conservative, I'm not a Liberal, I'm sure as shit not a Republican. I'm a plain old American who goes to work everyday to py the fucking bills. I'm pissed about the fact that everyday I have to see some fucking Brazilian who over stayed his green card make a better life then I simply because he's illegal, these mother fuckers are more protected by the government then I am, and I was fucking born here!!! Unfortunately we live in such a politicaly correct world that these scum fuckers cab't be caled out for what they are. As far as abortion. the debat will never end, if you can show me in the Constitition where it says that it is legal then I'll believe you, until then I see it as it is. The fact that the same people will support the abortion of "just a fetus" but condemn the death penalty is just contradiction. It's OK to kill something that will eventually become a human being (if it isn't already) but it's not OK to kill a living breathing person. Come on now, what the fuck is that? As far poor ole Tookie, he got what he fucking deserved, you kill 4 people, you should be given a lot more than a lethal injection, I'm an addvicate for the reinstation of torture and suffering in the method of execution. Perhaps I'm just fucking crazy, regardless my opinion is my opinion, not any other member of my band's although I know some of them feel the same way. You got an issue with it, bring it up with me, I'm not that bad of a person and I'm always down for an intelligent, researched argument. I'd rather not catch heat from a bunch of people on an internet message board about it. your post is too long winded and twisted, I have nothing worth while to contribute to the arguement cause you've lost me again. next time don't morph the topic into an assault on the ACLU, it's unamerican. Conservative paranoia seems to be everywhere these days, maybe they know more than half of the country is on to them. |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:25am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Where in the Constitution does it say that abortion is illegal? |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:30am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Actually nobody needs to answer my question because I already know that there is nothing for or against abortion in the Constitution because the Constitution is not some divine unchanging object. It was meant to be interpreted and changed carefully throughout our nation's history. That's why every high school Civics class hammers away at the whole "The Constitution:It's A Living Document!" concept. And if you're blaming immigrants for your problems here's a solution, work harder, that's how the illegals get it done. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:45am - BornSoVile ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said: And if you're blaming immigrants for your problems here's a solution, work harder, that's how the illegals get it done. exactly. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:50am - DomesticTerror ""] LIFE IS SACRED!!!! U.S. MILITARY DEATHS IN IRAQ: 2150 U.S. MILITARY WOUNDED IN IRAQ: 15881 IRAQI CIVILIAN DEATHS (MINIMUM): 27383 we're a thousand days in... |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 12:56am - BornSoVile ""] I heard the ACLU fabricated those numbers and weaved it into the liberal media so they could manipulate the people into thinking that NAMBLA is the biggest threat to our civilization since the civil rights movement. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 1:04am - dan NLI ""] ArrowHead nli said:dan nli said: uhh no thats not what i meant. anyone can claim to be reformed but not anyone can actually show that they are reformed in a constructive way. i dont think anyone who claims to be reformed should be granted clemency, that would be completely retarded. but if you actually contribute something to society, than that would warrant clemency... And your point was that through his writings, he had contributed to society. Again! That IS reform! You're completely agreeing with what I've said, but you seem to refuse to label it correctly. Why? jesus fucking christ. READING COMPREHENSION. i didnt say its not reform you fucking jackass. i said the reason for clemency should not be the act of reform in itself, because if that was the case then any asshole who finds jesus should be granted. but not every asshole who "finds jesus" or whatever goes on and actually contributes something to society because a. they are not truly reformed b. they lack the ability c. they are in jail and its pretty fucking hard to reach the outside world in such a way when you are interred. and when you actually can do this. you not only have shown that you are reformed but you actually show compelling evidence as to WHY you DESERVE clemency. what i was trying to say wasnt that difficult to understand, retard. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 2:08am - BornSoVile ""] IT'S TOO LATE!!! HE'S DEAD!!!!!! |
| __________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 2:10am - brian_dc ""] and now we have to figure out who to blame..the man? the system? society? blame game...commence. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 2:11am - BornSoVile ""] CARRY ON!!!! |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 5:17am - infoterror ""] RUBEN CANTU WAS NO SAINT OH WELL, DEATH COMES 7 BILLION PEOPLE NOW LESS ONE MORE TREES PRAISE GOD |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 14,2005 8:06am - hungta‘bleed ""] Who made the ACLU the 4th branch of government? Since when were they given such a prestigious standing in American politics? Last I checked they were nothing more than an INTEREST GROUP, therefor, they are about as credible as the NAACP, PFAW, Christian Coalition, etc... To say that attacking the ACLU is unAmerican is like saying attacking the Christian Coalition is unAmerican. You just keep drinking the kool aid and continue to believe that the UNAmerican Civil Liberties Union represents the backbone of American values. |