cut throat in a mess[views:140452][posts:328]_____________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 3:25pm - xanonymousx ""] i just copied and pasted... Tuesday, August 15, 2006 Rock concert âout of controlâ Band members claim police brutality By Mary Jo Hill TELEGRAM & GAZETTE STAFF mhill@telegram.com LEOMINSTERâ A fight broke out in a mosh pit Saturday during a punk concert in a church and spilled into the parking lot, and one of the three people who were arrested tried to flee the police station while he was handcuffed, according to District Court records. A band called Cut Throat was playing in the hall at First Church Unitarian Universalist, Leominster, at the time of the fight, according to records. While police described a melee with people swearing at officers, resisting arrest and striking officers, a Web site on MySpace for the band is claiming police brutality. One person posting on the Web site for Cut Throat said the band was peacefully preparing to leave after the concert had been broken up, and was loading its equipment when police harassed and provoked one of the band members and âmaced and beat up other members of the band.â A patch for the Leominster Police Department is the icon on the Web site for a song called âReleaseâ by the band. The lyrics begin, âBlame it on the bands. Itâs convenient for you to spread your lies â¦â The Rev. Susan Suchocki Brown of the Unitarian church, which is on West Street, disputed the police brutality claims. Adults who were supervising the concert told the pastor that âthese kids were totally out of control,â she said. âI just feel terribly sad about it,â she said. She said she is embarrassed that police had to get involved. Youths have rented out the church, which is closed during the summer, for three or four other concerts. Those events have gone well, with respectful, polite youngsters, she said. Youths who are not old enough to drink alcohol come, and there have been Christian bands, she said. âThen this one just went wicked bad,â Rev. Suchocki Brown said about the Saturday concert. Band member Scott J. Rea, 21, of 4 Linden St. in Rockland, was charged with assault and battery on a police officer; trespassing; resisting arrest; and disorderly conduct, court records said. Cash bail was set at $500 and a pretrial hearing is scheduled for Sept. 18. Band member Andrew W. Bezanson, 23, of 286 Pine St. in East Bridgewater, was charged with trespassing; resisting arrest; and assault and battery on a police officer, records said. Cash bail was set at $500 and a pretrial hearing is scheduled for Sept. 18. Joseph R. Barrett, 22, of 183 Temple St. in Whitman, was charged with trespassing; disorderly conduct; and resisting arrest, court records said. Cash bail was set at $500 with a pretrial hearing scheduled for Sept. 18. Timothy W. Murphy, a Leominster lawyer representing Mr. Barrett, said his client suffered a cut on his head that he says was from a police baton. Narratives by police in court records described the following events that led to the arrests. The Leominster Fire Department reported a fight in a parking lot behind the fire station. Police found about 50 to 60 people in the parking lot, with about 10 to 15 people fighting. Officers tried to control the crowd, but couldnât, and asked for help from other cities and state police. When police went into the church they were met with âverbal insults and threats.â Ashley Antonucci, who was teary-eyed, told police she had hired Cut Throat and now nobody would leave and things were getting out of control. She said a fight in the mosh pit had spilled outside, and asked police to tell everyone to leave. Police tried to break up the concert, and part of the crowd complied and began leaving. Stragglers and others stayed behind, however, including Mr. Bezanson. Mr. Bezanson was told many times to leave but âhe explicitly stated his lack of respect for the policeâ and resisted leaving. Mr. Bezanson returned to the church, then emerged a short while later and ran into a police sergeant. It took several officers to restrain Mr. Bezanson, and several people began protesting the arrest. After warnings, police used pepper spray on Mr. Bezanson and he was put in handcuffs. Mr. Barrett resisted officersâ efforts to get the people protesting the arrest to leave, and was arrested. Once Mr. Barrett was put in custody and handcuffed, he ran off, but police caught him. Mr. Barrett kicked and punched wildly and refused to comply with police, and hit an officer in the chest. Officers âused the force necessary to place Mr. Barrett into custody.â Mr. Rea resisted efforts to get everyone out of the area and was arrested, court police said. Pepper spray was used to subdue Mr. Rea as well. When Mr. Bezanson was taken into the police station garage to have water applied to his face to wash off the pepper spray, he knelt on the floor and appeared to be in a trance-like state but told an officer he was OK. During this time, Mr. Barrett, who was also in the garage being decontaminated for pepper spray and was handcuffed, bolted from the police station and was apprehended again. Police believe he fled because he is the subject of an outstanding arrest warrant. When an officer caught up to him, Mr. Barrett kicked the officer in the stomach and legs. Mr. Barrett complained of having a broken right arm, but a doctor at UMass Memorial â HealthAlliance Leominster Campus said the injury was a previous break that already had healed. The doctor said the eveningâs events could have stressed the injury, but the arm was not broken. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 15,2006 3:28pm - Yeti ""] when you say "email this biased prick", who is biased? |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 3:43pm - xmikex ""] Mary Jo Hill of the Telegram |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 3:45pm - sacreligion ""] yeah but we don't know if the kids were actually acting like douchebags or not |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 3:46pm - xmikex ""] never got statements from anyone assaulted by the police. failed to bring up previous Leominster police brutality law suits. failed to explain how a kid who was handcuffed was able to punch a police officer. failed to mention that all the kids fighting were probably about 16 years old. failed to mention that girls were maced |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 3:49pm - xmikex ""] sacreligion said:yeah but we don't know if the kids were actually acting like douchebags or not nobody ever should have fought at this show. given. but the real mess started AFTER the fight had been broken up and AFTER the show had been shut down. The guys from Cut Throat needed to get their gear out of the hall so they could LEAVE. The cops wouldn't listen and told them to leave. Andy (the singer) was coming out of the hall with a guitar head in his hands when he was tackled, maced, and beaten by several police offers. That's when the mess started. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 4:23pm - xanonymousx ""] opps i just copied and pasted didn't read the part before the artaicle |
| __________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 4:26pm - mOe nli ""] Can't we all just get along? |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 4:56pm - anonymous ""] hahaha stupid TUFF hc kids, gettin beat up by cops. FUCKIN AWESOME |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 5:14pm - XmikeX ""] anonymous said:hahaha stupid TUFF hc kids, gettin beat up by cops. FUCKIN AWESOME says some kid that probably cried in front of a state trooper the first time he got pulled over none of the CT kids are tuffguys. they're laid back kids who like to see everyone have fun. they don't fight, they don't start fights, and they sacrifice more to play music than you probably ever will. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 5:37pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] The article also failed to mention why there was a Leominster police officer running around with an assault rifle and 2 extra clips of ammo, why the cops were pepper spraying girls, why they were warning everybody to leave but blocking them in, and that the cops actually did break my bassist's arm. I'm sure he's not imagining it. The batons I saw them hitting him with didn't look too soft. And that was probably just ketchup coming out of his face after they were slamming it into the pavement in the middle of West st. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 5:42pm - RichHorror ""] Yeah, the shit I've heard from people that were there make this sound like the fucking L.A. riots. Totally fucked up. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 5:47pm - xanonymousx ""] http://www.petitiononline.com/cthroat/petition.html |
| _________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 5:48pm - cavnli ""] ya aint a real hardcore band til you start a riot at a show! go cutthroat!!! |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 5:51pm - xanonymousx ""] [img] |
| _________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 7:25pm - xjoeyx ""] this is a sad story to hear. it sounds like the media and the police departement are systematically working to profile and expliot power. in essence, this is not about hardcore music, and hardcore kids being punks. this is about the abuse of power. lets look at this in retrospect. no, lets look at this in the aspect of being human. this event transcends musical boundries. what happened here is wrong. it doesnt matter what scene you come from. no one should be brutalized by police, and then have the small time media justify the corrupt actions. i hope that this reaches you well.my regards to the wounded...xjosephx |
| _____________________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 9:13pm - luke not logged in ""] I rarely post anything serious, but this situation bothers me a whole hell of a lot. Everyone can make their cute comments because this is a "hardcore" band, but whichever way you want to spin it, police brutality cannot be tolerated. We don't live in a police state where the officer is the law. Even if they had been mouthy or even resisted in the least, the amount of force used was clearly unnecessary, especially if you have ever seen these guys. My point is, this could be you someday, and you'd probably hope for people to stand up for you. So sign the petition and make sure that an investigation is started and it's made clear that police brutality is not something that will go unnoticed. http://www.petitiononline.com/cthroat/petition.html |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 9:25pm - XmikeX ""] DEATH TO THE STORMTROOPS OF FASCIST OPPRESSION THE HARDER THEY COME THE HARDER THEY'LL FALL SICK OF BEING PUSHED AROUND AND BULLSHIT HARASSMENT PUSH ME TO FAR THERE'S GONNA BE BLOODSHED HARASSED ON OUR SKATEBOARDS AND IN OUR TRUCKS BREAK UP OUR SHOWS LET'S KILL THE FUCKS SEND MORE COPS! SEND MORE COPS! SEND MORE COPS! SEND MORE COPS! |
| _________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 9:45pm - cavnli ""] sorry...i didnt even read the whole message or what you guys had to say about what happened. thats some serious shit. you hear of a lot of shows getting broken up because of fights. but if cops started beating up kids just because they were talking back thats not right at all. i totally agree. cops suck, they probably got scared by the "crowd" and overreacted. hopefully they will see some type of consequences for their actions. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 9:57pm - tbone_r ""] it's unfair to take sides of an argument that you have only heard one side of, but i refuse to believe andy did anything that warranted the beating i hear he received. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2006 10:52pm - anonymous ""] http://sentinelandenterprise.com/ci_4183641 and this isn't the first time they've had to deal with this sort of thing. http://www.worcestervoice.com/cop_facing_2_assault_charges.htm http://www.worcestervoice.com/leominster_officers_accused_of_brutality.htm http://www.mustbme.com/lawsuit-filed-again...who-beat-man-with-police-radio.html |
| __________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 12:59am - tbone_r ""] the more i read into this the more it pisses me off. there is supposed to be some sort of protest on saturday, anybody know anything about it and/or going? |
| ____________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 2:23am - todayistheday nli ""] its made it to blabbermouth |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 5:40am - Chad Kroeger ""] ABZZ. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 8:17am - xmikex ""] tbone_r said:the more i read into this the more it pisses me off. there is supposed to be some sort of protest on saturday, anybody know anything about it and/or going? mike o'shea told me the band has nothing to do with the protest. i guess it's kids from the cape, and central mass planning it. from what I hear it's 2:00 at the police station. if this is true i'll be there with a camera. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 8:38am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Did anyone get a permit? If not, they're just inviting more trouble. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 9:14am - xmikex ""] dude.... you know they didn't. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 9:23am - t_bomb ""] the idea of a protest permit makes me laugh. either way, i'll look into this permit and get one if need be. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 16,2006 10:29am - mOe ""] the version i read of that story is WAAAAYYY different |
| ________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 1:10pm - xmikex ""] mOe said:the version i read of that story is WAAAAYYY different does this one involve me getting kicked in the head by some mystery man too? |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 1:14pm - anonymous ""] tbone_r said:the more i read into this the more it pisses me off. there is supposed to be some sort of protest on saturday, anybody know anything about it and/or going? hahaha, i hope the cops pummel everyone who goes |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 1:18pm - xanonymousxx ""] i here they are doing this in front of the police station on saturday... people are going crazy. personally i think it is stupid for them to do this infront of the police station without a permit if thats the case. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 1:53pm - xanonymousxx ""] after reading that article i don't know what to believe... it is very confusing the way it was put. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 2:02pm - xmikex @ work ""] xanonymousxx said:after reading that article i don't know what to believe... it is very confusing the way it was put. the police accounts don't really add up if you know the kids from the band. The CT kids are a bunch of smartasses but they know a serious situation when they see one, I can't see any of them in that situation deciding that they were gonna take on the cops. It just doesn't add up. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 2:04pm - xmikex @ work ""] anonymous said:tbone_r said:the more i read into this the more it pisses me off. there is supposed to be some sort of protest on saturday, anybody know anything about it and/or going? hahaha, i hope the cops pummel everyone who goes thanks for the opinion. I hope someday someone pummels you because you listen to different music than them. That'd be worth a chuckle. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 2:13pm - anonymous ""] xmikex @ work said:anonymous said:tbone_r said:the more i read into this the more it pisses me off. there is supposed to be some sort of protest on saturday, anybody know anything about it and/or going? hahaha, i hope the cops pummel everyone who goes thanks for the opinion. I hope someday someone pummels you because you listen to different music than them. That'd be worth a chuckle. where you at this event? oh yeah,, blow me,hardcore fag.. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 2:21pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] I was there. xmikex is right. |
| _____________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 3:16pm - luke not logged in ""] "Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." Last i checked, you didn't need a permit to protest... |
| ______________________________ [Aug 16,2006 3:23pm - Yeti ""] yeah its difficult to make a stance by that article. i'm certainly not calling anyone liars or anything, but pretty much every time there is an altercation with cops and band hooligans, usually the explanation is everyone was acting peacefully and the maniac cops came and started unjustly beating and macing everyone. of course its possible, but i'm willing to bet there is more to this. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 3:43pm - xmikex ""] anonymous said:xmikex @ work said:anonymous said:tbone_r said:the more i read into this the more it pisses me off. there is supposed to be some sort of protest on saturday, anybody know anything about it and/or going? hahaha, i hope the cops pummel everyone who goes thanks for the opinion. I hope someday someone pummels you because you listen to different music than them. That'd be worth a chuckle. where you at this event? oh yeah,, blow me,hardcore fag.. were you? do you know anyone involved? do you have anything to do with this except for some 16 year old hardcore kid bumping into you at a show? prove a point or take a nap, limpdick. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 3:51pm - xmikex ""] anyone remember the Anal Cunt/As the Sun Sets show on Halloween like 6 years ago at the Met? A bunch of fights broke out during AC and the show got shutdown. The cops were waiting outside to make everyone leave. Everyone was leaving, no one was talking back to the cops, no one was fighting. I look to the other side of the street and see this little dude, scrawny looking kid, no older than 17, he's standing there looking like he's waiting on a friend of his to come out, not saying a word, standing perfectly still. A cop walks by and maces the kid. No reason for it whatsoever. The cop never arrested him, or even gave him an indication as to why he did it. The cop walked away and the kid was still standing there holding his face. It's easy to blame the cops, yeah. But I'm sure just about anyone on this board can think of a time a cop did something stupid for no reason at a show. |
| ____________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 4:10pm - Man_of_the_Century ""] xmikex said:It's easy to blame the cops, yeah. But I'm sure just about anyone on this board can think of a time a cop did something stupid for no reason at a show. I can't. The few shows that I've gone to and had the cops step in and do something to someone, there was a reason. I don't know if the reason was right or wrong, but there always is a reason. This whole situation is messed up. You have the cops saying one thing, and the band/fans saying another. The stories on both sides don't even match up that well. There are a few things I do know... -One of the members of CT had an outstanding warrent (DUI or something like that). -The guys in CT got messed up (and it is a shame it happened). -I have never had a problem with a cop that I did not start because I was doing something wrong. -Cops sometimes (for whatever reason) do beat up people when they are not at fault. It doesn't happen when you have 3 diffrent groups of cops at once (Staties, Lunenburg, and Leominster). -There was a good-sized crowd. In that situation, if you are not doing exactly as you are told, you are bound to get in trouble. -I have met many people that say they did nothing wrong when the cops did something to them. Some were right (but to the cops it didn't look that way) and some were flat-out lying. I don't know what happened, I wasn't there. I, however, will bet that the police are not at total fault here. Thats not to say they didn't over-react, but I'm sure that CT was not as innocent as they say. Good luck either way. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 4:14pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Man_of_the_Century said:-One of the members of CT had an outstanding warrent (DUI or something like that). Wrong. |
| ____________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 4:18pm - Man_of_the_Century ""] menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:Man_of_the_Century said:-One of the members of CT had an outstanding warrent (DUI or something like that). Wrong. Right from the article: "Police later learned that Barrett was wanted on an arrest warrant from Brockton District Court for multiple motor vehicle charges, including operating under the influence of alcohol (second offense), according to court documents." |
| ____________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 4:19pm - Man_of_the_Century ""] Unless thats not one of the guys from CT, in which case I withdraw that statement. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 4:26pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Yeah, I know for a fact he's not in Cut Throat. I don't know how accurate they are with their warrant info is, though. |
| ____________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 4:27pm - Man_of_the_Century ""] Nevermind, it was a guy from another band there... sorry. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 4:33pm - the_reverend ""] the dudes is CT are really nice. not tuff guys at all. I find it most funny that MSD was there and/or is defending people here. MSD joins a "faggot hardcore band" and now he's all talking unity. I heard he traded his devourment for 25 ta life. |
| ____________________________________________________ [Aug 16,2006 4:36pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] You have insulted my honor. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 17,2006 12:31am - anonymous ""] i still hope the cops kick the everloving crap out of anyone dumb enough to show up to a protest |