| Now Find a show to go to! Feb 5 (Mon) - Dark Funeral, Enslaved, Abigail Williams, Zircon, Cold Northern Vengeance, The Accursed - Mark's Show Place (Bedford, NH) Dark Funeral,Enslaved,Abigale Williams,Zircon,Cold Northern Vengence 2-5-07 at Marks showplace Bedford NH[views:118648][posts:360][show listing] __________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:26am - largefreakatzero ""] pam said:Mark's sucks. People were getting "talking to's" for headbanging too hard, thrown out for barely bumping into people, the beer selection blows, the times changed last minute...what a fuckshow. Add the pay-to-play deal and you have a shit-sandwich. These are all the reasons we do not play there anymore. Bernie offered this show to us last minute and we declined. It's too bad, he does book good bands. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:29am - Aegathis nli ""] yea this is definatly a shitty place, i thought that fuckin second stage bullshit was gay. I wanted to kill myself soo many times last night. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:33am - the_reverend ""] I actually like the second stage.. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 10:57am - largefreakatzero ""] I heard about the 2nd stage. We haven't played there since the Suffocation show, so I have yet to bear witness to that debacle. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 11:16am - Phrozenspite ""] does anyone else think that Enslaved should've gotten the headlining set on this tour? aside from their sound slaying just based on band history and contribution to the genre |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:06pm - Aegathis nli ""] i think we shouldnt have played after enslaved |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:16pm - anonymous ""] wtf, I showed up and Enslaved was already playing. Fucking bullshit putting them on before a local. 24 years of going to shows and I've never seen such bullshit as I've seen at Marks. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:26pm - Sinistas ""] Enslaved went on before Zircon? Whack. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:36pm - PryoryofSyn ""] It was two stages. The Accursed, Zircon and the other local band (which I missed - Cold N. Venganz) played as soon as the main-stage band was done. They were set up at the other end where the pool tables are. The "headlining" bands - Abigail Williams, Enslaved, and Dark Funeral - played on the main stage. I came in at the Abigail Williams which were really great, a very cute keyboard chick too.. and Enslaved were fucking amazing! there was a small pit going and it was crowded enough that they didnt try to stop us. nice show.. I had to bail at Dark Funeral tho cuz its an hour drive back and I had to get up early |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:37pm - PryoryofSyn ""] scottfromzircon said:Dark Funeral Enslaved Abigale Williams Zircon Cold Northern Vengence + More doors 25$ get tickets in advance for 15$ Blizard or not this show is still happening www.zirconmetal.com were the tickets $15 or $20?? I paid $20. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:38pm - anonymous ""] yeah, they went on at like 9. I'm through with fucking Mark's. I live an hour north of there and I'll be going to see these shows in Hartford or Montreal instead. Fuck that place. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:41pm - dreadkill ""] Phrozenspite said:does anyone else think that Enslaved should've gotten the headlining set on this tour? aside from their sound slaying just based on band history and contribution to the genre i agree with you. enslaved is great and dark funeral is boring. |
| _______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 12:54pm - y_ddraig_goch ""] PryoryofSyn said: I came in at the Abigail Williams which were really great, a very cute keyboard chick too.. that girl was busted, and chewing gum with her mouth open the whole time, good keyboard player though |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 1:45pm - arilliusbm ""] CNV did not play because 2 members we're 20 minutes late for their set. They were told to take their stuff down as the show is on a "tight" schedule. I believe they got offered to play March 31st as an opener for 1349 instead. Enslaved was excellent. Dark Funeral was Dark Funeral. Their guitars were too quiet, etc. I like the overall general concept of Mark's... I just think it needs a few fixes/changes and it will be great. No reentry = stupid.. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:05pm - BornSoVile ""] I was wicked pissed that Enslaved had to cut 4 or 5 songs from their set in order to accomodate the local bands, it's not like every day or better yet every year that they come here to tour, it didn't make sense. Enslaved however was amazing, they annihilated Dark Funeral, who is easily one of the most boring bands ever. DF guitars were way to thin and they had no energy or charisma. I left 3 songs into their set, in order to be home and up early this morning for work. I really hate driving there, it takes forever plus there are tons of troopers in NH just drooling at you, plus the crowds are always half dead-maybe it's because of the cult that runs it. I don't care how expensive the palladium is, I miss shows there, I miss the feeling of comfort when I'm not being gawked at by rotating security who is constantly pushing me out of the way in order to pick up an empty beer bottle that's relatively close to the stage. TNT are the biggest assholes going, all their cars were parked in the fire lanes and handicapped parking spots, fuck you and your power-you fackin' cunts! I was deeply disappointed that CNV failed to play this show, that was a serious let down...wassa matter with you? ENSLAVED MOTHER FUCKERS! |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:14pm - inject-now ""] so glad i didnt go to this clusterfuck. fuck marks showplace. hirudinea will never support that faggot shitty place. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:16pm - Aegathis ""] Yea i really dont see how selling all the tickets to play that place is worth it, everything seemed outa control. Playing that second stage was a big let down for me considering all the work that went into playing that place. Needless to say i dont look forward to playing there again, not even the show tomorow. And ofcoarse, the bullshit about not letting Nick in for being a little to wasted and getting him arrested. Id say they have more important shit to worry about other then losing theyre liquor license, like losing any bands interested in putting all that work into making sure Bernie can pay the touring bands that get to stay out side while all the local bands play 20 minute sets on a tiny piece of shit stage and get no money out of it. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:18pm - arilliusbm ""] Nash Nick/ aka Powerglove Nick got arrested? |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:18pm - inject-now ""] i totally forgot unleashed is playing there tomorow....fuck. i really want to see them. maybe i will sneak in. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:21pm - dreadkill ""] BornSoVile said:I was wicked pissed that Enslaved had to cut 4 or 5 songs from their set in order to accomodate the local bands, it's not like every day or better yet every year that they come here to tour, it didn't make sense. Enslaved however was amazing, they annihilated Dark Funeral, who is easily one of the most boring bands ever. i totally agree. i knew enslaved would get screwed out of a few songs. i bet they played longer sets at the other stops on the tour. i wanted to hear at least one song from below the lights. oh well, they were still totally worth the money spent on the ticket. i left during dark funeral too. i was bored out of my mind. i could never get into that band and still don't understand how they got the headlining slot over enslaved. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:24pm - Aegathis ""] arilliusbm said:Nash Nick/ aka Powerglove Nick got arrested? yup, his dad showed up there last night too. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:30pm - CNV ""] Yeah, we did not get to play the gig due to 2 of the members being a bit late They gave us the 1349 gig instead Enslaved was excellent |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:31pm - arilliusbm ""] bah, I remember him very well when we were in Abaroth together. Not that surprised it happened. Nick, if you're going to read this sometime, I thought you learned how to control it in public! Anyway, yea.. Enslaved stole the show. I say stole because they should have headlined. About mark's - Security are a little too uptight, and they got that 6'9'' UFC-looking dude patrolling the place as well. The whole scheme with bands selling the tickets to get on in a certain order is retarded. I think, if they're smart, they'll stop doing that. The sound wasn't bad at Mark's though.. at least it wasn't for enslaved. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:32pm - CNV ""] I mean were excellent |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:42pm - Messerschmitt ""] i'm actually glad to say i didn't make it. Enslaved will make their way back over here sometime again hopefully. fuck that kike venue. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:42pm - anonymous ""] arilliusbm said: The whole scheme with bands selling the tickets to get on in a certain order is retarded. I think, if they're smart, they'll stop doing that. They won't, because they ARE smart. As long as local bands are willing to pay ridiculous fees for stage time, they'll keep rakin' it in. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:44pm - dreadkill ""] Messerschmitt said:i'm actually glad to say i didn't make it. Enslaved will make their way back over here sometime again hopefully. fuck that kike venue. hopefully we won't have to wait too long to see enslaved come back. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:48pm - anonymous ""] The sound is the only good thing about that place. That 6'9" guy is actually the only nice one of the bunch. Last week at Overkill he turned around and asked me if he was standing in my way. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 2:48pm - CNV ""] anonymous said:arilliusbm said: The whole scheme with bands selling the tickets to get on in a certain order is retarded. I think, if they're smart, they'll stop doing that. They won't, because they ARE smart. As long as local bands are willing to pay ridiculous fees for stage time, they'll keep rakin' it in. Yeah but here is the thing Fact of the matter is Marks is the ONLY club in New England that is bringing the best fucking bands from Europe |
| ____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:00pm - pam ""] Good bands don't make pay-to-play alright. The big guy was cool, the security dick at the door didn't want to take my ID because it's cracked...and the big dude let me in. OMGZ DIS MUST BE FAKE BECUZ ITZ CRACKED. Moron. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:05pm - dreadkill ""] get a fully intact license, you bum. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:14pm - anonymous ""] CNV said: Fact of the matter is Marks is the ONLY club in New England that is bringing the best fucking bands from Europe Wrong again, The Webster in Hartford are bringing in the same tours as Mark's; they also turn shows into all-day pay-to-play fests. It's fucking ridiculous. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:16pm - arilliusbm ""] anonymous said: Wrong again, The Webster in Hartford are bringing in the same tours as Mark's; they also turn shows into all-day pay-to-play fests. It's fucking ridiculous. Fuck CT. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:22pm - Yeti ""] BornSoVile said: I don't care how expensive the palladium is, I miss shows there i absolutely agree. the sound there has been questionable, but its not nearly as bad as everyone claims it to be. there have been many, many shows where the sound was awesome. plus it was nice to have the venue fairly close to just about everyone in MA. Bedford NH is way the fuck out of the way for just about everyone except locals to the area. plus, the Palladium is nostalgic, i personally have had many great times there. of course there have been a few crappy ones, but they dont come close to outweighing the good. |
| ____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:24pm - pam ""] More shows should go to Lupo's...I dig that place. |
| _____________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:26pm - Yeti ""] yeah the new Lupo's is really nice. the only good show i know of there is Sevendust. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:33pm - anonymous ""] As someone who has played there dozens of times, Mark's is an AWFUL place to play. Unless you're the national act, they treat you like shit. 90% of the local bands that end up playing during these impromptu metalfests suck balls. The patrons don't give a hot fuck about seeing them which is why they'll either never be there early, or you'll always find 50% of the crowd or more over at the strip club side. And I DON'T blame them. As a fan, I will ALWAYS choose to see shows at The Palladium over Mark's. At this point, I only play there cuz they have naked chicks. Sad. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:38pm - dreadkill ""] anonymous said:CNV said: Fact of the matter is Marks is the ONLY club in New England that is bringing the best fucking bands from Europe Wrong again, The Webster in Hartford are bringing in the same tours as Mark's; they also turn shows into all-day pay-to-play fests. It's fucking ridiculous. the webster is worse. the local bands play in a different room and sometimes play at the same time as the touring bands, so no one sees them. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:51pm - arilliusbm ""] Anyone want to start a new club?? We were talking about it last night... we could get a bunch of people to pitch in, etc.. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 3:55pm - anonymous ""] arilliusbm said:Anyone want to start a new club?? We were talking about it last night... we could get a bunch of people to pitch in, etc.. How bout we just get the Palladium to take over again. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 4:40pm - Messerschmitt ""] fuck the palladium |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 4:55pm - davefromthegrave ""] dreadkill said:anonymous said:CNV said: Fact of the matter is Marks is the ONLY club in New England that is bringing the best fucking bands from Europe Wrong again, The Webster in Hartford are bringing in the same tours as Mark's; they also turn shows into all-day pay-to-play fests. It's fucking ridiculous. the webster is worse. the local bands play in a different room and sometimes play at the same time as the touring bands, so no one sees them. seriously. Sunday night they had two bands playing simultaneously all night long. On top of that, they would switch off between a round of good bands and a round of shitty bands, you'd either be standing around in the lobby bored or missing a band that you want to see, all night long. Fuck the webster. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 5:01pm - anonymous ""] Messerschmitt said:fuck the palladium Fuck Mark's. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 5:15pm - Messerschmitt ""] yar |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 6,2007 7:04pm - Kinslayer ""] I think the sound at Marks is fantastic, the size is better than the Palladium and the beer is reasonably priced. Plus when the strip club is open, you can look at tits while the shitty bands play. Having to sell tickets, I agree is weak and they need to stop over booking. That second stage setup was silly but otherwise I like the club. At least the 1349 show we got added to is on a Saturday night instead of a fucking Monday. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:19am - Samantha ""] I like the Palladium better. It's in a better location. The drinks at the Palladium are cheaper than at Mark's. ($4 for a bud light is ridiculous, in my opinion.) The Palladium also does more in the way of promoting their shows. I don't understand why the Palladium isn't booking any of these shows. I also don't understand why the Palladium doesn't book local openers like they used to. At least if a band payed to play at the Palladium, they would be playing to a much larger audience than they would at Mark's. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:20am - arilliusbm ""] I'm not complainin' about last night's turnout. I thought it was awesome to see Enslaved with no 15 year old Palladium kids hanging over my shoulder. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:36am - BornSoVile ""] arilliusbm said:I'm not complainin' about last night's turnout. I thought it was awesome to see Enslaved with no 15 year old Palladium kids hanging over my shoulder. this is true too. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 12:51am - dyingmuse ""] I had a great time last night, good bands and good people. The pay to play thing does suck, I just don't have time for tickets these days, but honestly, we did very well in the way of money the last time we played at Marks. We have a show there in the summer with Leave's Eyes, and if we are on a "second stage" I will cancel right now. that was bullshit. an insult to the headliners and to the locals who busted their asses to "share" the stage with Enslaved. The whole, un-organized bands on after the headlines and so-forth also sucked! And I almost forgot, I got fucking shut off last night!!!!!! Fucking bullshit, cunt security there sucks! I must have spent like 150 there last night and have made that club good money when we play there, i was Very offended by that. Horseshit!!!!! Other than that, I did have a great time! Ohh and no titties? WTF? |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 7,2007 1:28am - anonymous ""] Samantha said:The drinks at the Palladium are cheaper than at Mark's. ($4 for a bud light is ridiculous, in my opinion.) The Palladium also does more in the way of promoting their shows. I don't understand why the Palladium isn't booking any of these shows. I also don't understand why the Palladium doesn't book local openers like they used to. At least if a band payed to play at the Palladium, they would be playing to a much larger audience than they would at Mark's. Actually, drinks at the Palladium have gone up drastically. You're looking at $7 for a mixed drink and upwards of $5 for beers. That's the only thing I like better about Mark's. Still doesn't make up for the crap, though. Also, bands never payed to play the Palladium. I've played there over 10 times and never once had to pay. However, like you said, if you DID have to pay to play there, it WOULD be a hell of a lot more worth it. As for why hey aren't booking the shows: The going rumors suggest Bernie is paying national acts a LOT more than the Palladium is willing to, and therefore, this is why he books 6 trillion local "pay to play" acts per show; to make up the cost. To be perfectly honest, IMO that type of system can only hold up for so long before it comes drastically crashing down. I just hope that when it does, The Palladium isn't so far removed from the scene that it's impossible for them to rebound. As it is right now, outside of 2 or 3 shows not including the Metalfest, it seems everything listed on The Palladium's site is emo shows. |