ATTENTION RTTP HOBBY ROCKERS AND FOOLS[views:80630][posts:361]_____________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:40pm - the_reverend ""] dasani is filter water.. they get it from the merrimack river up here... ew... |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:40pm - blackmetallady ""] dertoxia said:blackmetallady said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:Does every band have to be gunning for Century Media and the Billboard Top 40 for you to accept them? YES i would be appaled if at any point in my life i actually made money playing music. thats not why i do it. thats not why anyone on here does it. we dont play music to have a big house and shiny cars. we do it because we like it and we want other people to like what we do. actually....fuck that. we dont even care if other people like what we do. we just do it for ourselves. you are completely self absorbed and expect people to give you money just for you existing. i absolutely despise going to shows of nationally touring bands. i just look at what theyre charging for merch. i've never seen a local band charge more than maybe $15 for a shirt yet i see these nationals charging fourty-fuckin-five dollars??! what does that tell me? they aren't in it for the music anymore, theyre in it for the money. i don't respect people like that and i dont respect you. get aids you filthy dumpster whore. Oh my, silly boy. You know abosolutely nothing. These "touring bands" eat from merch money, that's how they make most of their money. God, the money they have to pay back to the labels and such is a lot! The merch is what they rely on. Morover, most promoters take 15-50% of merch money from the band at every show. THAT's WRONG. I never take merch money, because I know that's how they survive on the road. This is why I'm a well liked promoter by nationals. So stick that up your ass and learn the biz. |
| ____________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:41pm - pam ""] the_reverend said:ppps: real fights from the internet are lamer that headbutts. I'm totally gonna headbutt her now. hahaha. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:41pm - Lamp ""] the_reverend said:dasani is filter water.. they get it from the merrimack river up here... ew... Sounds more appetizing than beer. |
| ____________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:43pm - pam ""] blackmetallady said:dertoxia said:blackmetallady said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:Does every band have to be gunning for Century Media and the Billboard Top 40 for you to accept them? YES i would be appaled if at any point in my life i actually made money playing music. thats not why i do it. thats not why anyone on here does it. we dont play music to have a big house and shiny cars. we do it because we like it and we want other people to like what we do. actually....fuck that. we dont even care if other people like what we do. we just do it for ourselves. you are completely self absorbed and expect people to give you money just for you existing. i absolutely despise going to shows of nationally touring bands. i just look at what theyre charging for merch. i've never seen a local band charge more than maybe $15 for a shirt yet i see these nationals charging fourty-fuckin-five dollars??! what does that tell me? they aren't in it for the music anymore, theyre in it for the money. i don't respect people like that and i dont respect you. get aids you filthy dumpster whore. Oh my, silly boy. You know abosolutely nothing. These "touring bands" eat from merch money, that's how they make most of their money. God, the money they have to pay back to the labels and such is a lot! The merch is what they rely on. Morover, most promoters take 15-50% of merch money from the band at every show. THAT's WRONG. I never take merch money, because I know that's how they survive on the road. This is why I'm a well liked promoter by nationals. So stick that up your ass and learn the biz. THE BIZ!!! HAHAHAAHAHAH LEARN THE BIZ!!! |
| ____________________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:44pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] the_reverend said:dasani is filter water.. they get it from the merrimack river up here... ew... Hey...I piss in that river, that water is the nectar of myself and many other Hobby Rockers. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:45pm - RichHorror ""] OMG LERN TEH BIZ I BEN IN 4 5 SEX! LOL STUCK MOJO IZ TEH ROXOXOXRZ!!! |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:45pm - blackmetallady ""] pam said:Now who's the coward? Not a coward. I'm a lady |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:45pm - RichHorror ""] MONEY STORE |
| ____________________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:45pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] It's amazing how much she talks about 'the biz', yet knows nothing about metal itself. I wonder how that could be? |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:46pm - dertoxia ""] yeah i'm sure they spend every penny of merch money on food and gas. they're such starving artists, these poor guys. at least they have nice people like you to make them feel good about themselves. bands that expect to make a profit and expect US to pay more for their music and merch make me sick. so stick a cactus up your ass and don't ever say "the biz" again you pathetic filth pig. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:46pm - blackmetallady ""] RichHorror said:OMG LERN TEH BIZ I BEN IN 4 5 SEX! LOL STUCK MOJO IZ TEH ROXOXOXRZ!!! what does Mojo have to do with this? |
| _____________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:46pm - Lamp ""] blackmetallady said:Oh my, silly boy. You know abosolutely nothing. These "touring bands" eat from merch money, that's how they make most of their money. God, the money they have to pay back to the labels and such is a lot! The merch is what they rely on. Morover, most promoters take 15-50% of merch money from the band at every show. THAT's WRONG. I never take merch money, because I know that's how they survive on the road. This is why I'm a well liked promoter by nationals. So stick that up your ass and learn the biz. Er, you obviously don't know anything about the scene that lies underneath of bands touring in broken down vans that screenprint their own merch. They don't have the big label support or the fancy bus or the top of the line gear you're talking about. They pay for this stuff out of their own pockets. Promoters don't take money out of these shows because there really isn't even much money to take in the first place. People go to see these bands because they rock out loud with a certain fiery passion someone like you could never understand. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:48pm - dertoxia ""] Lamp said:blackmetallady said:Oh my, silly boy. You know abosolutely nothing. These "touring bands" eat from merch money, that's how they make most of their money. God, the money they have to pay back to the labels and such is a lot! The merch is what they rely on. Morover, most promoters take 15-50% of merch money from the band at every show. THAT's WRONG. I never take merch money, because I know that's how they survive on the road. This is why I'm a well liked promoter by nationals. So stick that up your ass and learn the biz. Er, you obviously don't know anything about the scene that lies underneath of bands touring in broken down vans that screenprint their own merch. They don't have the big label support or the fancy bus or the top of the line gear you're talking about. They pay for this stuff out of their own pockets. Promoters don't take money out of these shows because there really isn't even much money to take in the first place. People go to see these bands because they rock out loud with a certain fiery passion someone like you could never understand. i feel you brutha |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:51pm - the_reverend ""] I need a freakin bus. the sheer amount of quotes in this thread is staggering. I have seriously been staggered! |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:51pm - blackmetallady ""] Lamp said:blackmetallady said:Oh my, silly boy. You know abosolutely nothing. These "touring bands" eat from merch money, that's how they make most of their money. God, the money they have to pay back to the labels and such is a lot! The merch is what they rely on. Morover, most promoters take 15-50% of merch money from the band at every show. THAT's WRONG. I never take merch money, because I know that's how they survive on the road. This is why I'm a well liked promoter by nationals. So stick that up your ass and learn the biz. Er, you obviously don't know anything about the scene that lies underneath of bands touring in broken down vans that screenprint their own merch. They don't have the big label support or the fancy bus or the top of the line gear you're talking about. They pay for this stuff out of their own pockets. Promoters don't take money out of these shows because there really isn't even much money to take in the first place. People go to see these bands because they rock out loud with a certain fiery passion someone like you could never understand. My goodness. Yes, I agree many screenprint their own merch... how do you think they pay for their broken down vans, dumbass? MERCH MONEY!!!! |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:52pm - dertoxia ""] local bands charge 8-12 bucks for cds and 10-15 for shirts and cd's they print themselves out of their own pockets and have minimal exposure. On the other hand....national bands charge 18-25 bucks for cds and 30-50 bucks for shirts and they have HUGE exposure and huge oportunity to make sales and don't pay a cent of their own money for this stuff. hmmmm i'm no economics smarty pants but if demand goes up and supply goes up...price should remain the same. and thats in a perfect market. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:54pm - blackmetallady ""] and yes, promoters do take merch money from touring bands, whether they are Van Halen or Goatwhore... I take nothing. Shit, Strapping Young Lad was thrilled when they found out that I don't take merch money as well as the others I've booked. I'm done teaching you. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:56pm - dertoxia ""] blackmetallady said: My goodness. Yes, I agree many screenprint their own merch... how do you think they pay for their broken down vans, dumbass? MERCH MONEY!!!! yeah....and they charge what they should be charging just to barely break even and buy thier shit vans and go on tour. and you know what...they're fine with that and don't complain and woah...they have FUN! These prick nationals complain if they don't get the right water backstage. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:57pm - blackmetallady ""] Suffication merch is reasonable and they don't have HUGE lable support. I wouldn't take merch money from them either. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 6:58pm - blackmetallady ""] dertoxia said:blackmetallady said: My goodness. Yes, I agree many screenprint their own merch... how do you think they pay for their broken down vans, dumbass? MERCH MONEY!!!! yeah....and they charge what they should be charging just to barely break even and buy thier shit vans and go on tour. and you know what...they're fine with that and don't complain and woah...they have FUN! These prick nationals complain if they don't get the right water backstage. I agree with that |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:00pm - dertoxia ""] actually on the last suffocation tour they were forced to overprice their merch by the FF tour manager. they were super pissed about it. These guys are riding around in fancy tour busses but they still remember when they were in beat up van smelling each others farts for weeks straight. Bands being forced to overprice is one thing...bands EXPECTING to get 45 bucks for their shitty t-shirts is a completely different story. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:01pm - dertoxia ""] blackmetallady said:dertoxia said:blackmetallady said: My goodness. Yes, I agree many screenprint their own merch... how do you think they pay for their broken down vans, dumbass? MERCH MONEY!!!! yeah....and they charge what they should be charging just to barely break even and buy thier shit vans and go on tour. and you know what...they're fine with that and don't complain and woah...they have FUN! These prick nationals complain if they don't get the right water backstage. I agree with that yet you're still defending these dicks because they put money in your bank account |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:01pm - blackmetallady ""] x |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:02pm - blackmetallady ""] dertoxia said:actually on the last suffocation tour they were forced to overprice their merch by the FF tour manager. they were super pissed about it. These guys are riding around in fancy tour busses but they still remember when they were in beat up van smelling each others farts for weeks straight. Bands being forced to overprice is one thing...bands EXPECTING to get 45 bucks for their shitty t-shirts is a completely different story. I agree with this (i meant ) |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:02pm - horsefacedretard ""] I agree with everything |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:03pm - dertoxia ""] you don't give a shit about the music. you just want to get paid. jump in front of a train you pathetic withered gunt bucket |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:03pm - blackmetallady ""] horsefacedretard said:I agree with everything don't be anonymous, wussy |
| _____________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:04pm - Lamp ""] blackmetallady said:My goodness. Yes, I agree many screenprint their own merch... how do you think they pay for their broken down vans, dumbass? MERCH MONEY!!!! I don't know if you're trying to tell me that I'm lying or what, but bands do sell merch at shows...and they charge a reasonable amount too. 10 bucks a shirt. Can't get a better deal than that anywhere else. I also don't know where you got the impression that Goatwhore, Strapping Young Lad, and Suffocation aren't big name bands, but the point still stands that they turn this into some kind of profit scam off people who like to have fun enjoying a hobby which is exactly the kind of thing an underground touring network is supposed to be rebelling against in the first place. I'd like to see you try and do a month long tour sleeping on peoples floors(if you're lucky) and whatnot. I don't see you putting these bands up in your own house or cooking them dinner and I don't see how they have any kind of personal relationship with you just because you don't take money away from their merch sales. You know, in some ways I'm starting to think being a big name metal promoter would rule. I could take money away from all these spoiled brat big name bands who bitch about having their soundcheck delayed a minute and having to charge less than 30 dollars for a shirt. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:05pm - KeithMutiny ""] someone please hack this site and delete her and every thread shes in, im sick of seein it. fuck all of you for this. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:07pm - dertoxia ""] this isn't myspace, you cant hack rttp |
| _____________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:08pm - Lamp ""] We should try and get this on Springer. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:09pm - blackmetallady ""] dertoxia said:you don't give a shit about the music. you just want to get paid. jump in front of a train you pathetic withered gunt bucket I care very deeply about the music. You don't know me. Actually, I make very little money from shows and sometimes I lose money from all the advertising, but I still refuse to take merch money. If I really wanted to just make money, I would make bands pay to play. However, I have a select few bands that I work with, because I know they will work hard and help promote the show and sell tickets. They get a commission on evry ticket they sell and they are not finacially responsible for any unsold tickets as long as unsold tickets are returned to me by load in time. I'm very fair and I have a great reputation with the local bands that I work with. One day, it will pay off. fterall, a girl's got to eat right? AND DON'T SAY OATES! |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:10pm - KeithMutiny ""] lamp, if your doing a PV band, you should already have at last 53 songs about this woman, just from the last 2 threads. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:15pm - Lamp ""] Hahaha, I never even thought to turn any of this into lyrics! Good idea. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:15pm - blackmetallady ""] Lamp said:blackmetallady said:My goodness. Yes, I agree many screenprint their own merch... how do you think they pay for their broken down vans, dumbass? MERCH MONEY!!!! I also don't know where you got the impression that Goatwhore, Strapping Young Lad, and Suffocation aren't big name bands, but the point still stands that they turn this into some kind of profit scam off people who like to have fun enjoying a hobby which is exactly the kind of thing an underground touring network is supposed to be rebelling against in the first place. I'd like to see you try and do a month long tour sleeping on peoples floors(if you're lucky) and whatnot. I don't see you putting these bands up in your own house or cooking them dinner and I don't see how they have any kind of personal relationship with you just because you don't take money away from their merch sales. You know, in some ways I'm starting to think being a big name metal promoter would rule. I could take money away from all these spoiled brat big name bands who bitch about having their soundcheck delayed a minute and having to charge less than 30 dollars for a shirt. WHAT??? THE ABOVE BANDS YOU MENTIONED ARE BIG NAME BANDS AND YES, I HAVE FED THEM AND YES I HAVE PUT THEM UP IN MY HOME. DUDE, YOU DON'T NOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:17pm - brian_dc ""] Not all bands that tour are on major labels or any label at all. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:19pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] [img] |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:20pm - brian_dc ""] some of the bands who post on this site have toured, are going on tour, are on tour right now, etc. Don't speak in declarative sentences unless you have all of the information. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:22pm - Lamp ""] Is she booking Goatwhore or a bunch of whores for goats? She may subject a strapping young lad to suffocation on her huge horse cock I didn't know horses could use keyboards Nor did I know they could whinny so loudly on message boards needlessly Hear her neigh because her name is Leigh When she gets put out to pasture will be a glorious day |
| _____________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:24pm - Lamp ""] blackmetallady said:WHAT??? THE ABOVE BANDS YOU MENTIONED ARE BIG NAME BANDS AND YES, I HAVE FED THEM AND YES I HAVE PUT THEM UP IN MY HOME. DUDE, YOU DON'T NOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I see you're honing your craft of repeating what other people say. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:26pm - blackmetallady ""] Let me give you idiots out there an example. Goatwhore- they travel in a van, lost everything in Katrina, yet they still charge a reasonbale fee for merch. These guys are a BIG band, but not spoiled and rich. Those guys work fucking hard and I hope they get rich one day.... they deserve it. I respect them so much and that's why they are my favorite band, plus extremely talented. PS- they respect me too. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:31pm - brian_dc ""] I think the issue isn't a criticism of your liking Goatwhore. I think it's that some of your statements seem to diminish the difficulties involved in being in a band that does not make their livelihood from playing. |
| ______________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:31pm - Troll ""] Leigh, you seriously are being an annoying attention whore. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:40pm - blackmetallady ""] Troll said:Leigh, you seriously are being an annoying attention whore. But, I'm right about everything thing I said. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:42pm - blackmetallady ""] brian_dc said:I think the issue isn't a criticism of your liking Goatwhore. I think it's that some of your statements seem to diminish the difficulties involved in being in a band that does not make their livelihood from playing. then they are not working hard enough |
| _________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:43pm - brian_dc ""] some people have different priorities. It doesn't make the music they create less viable. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:46pm - blackmetallady ""] They can call me when they are ready then... I could care less about hobby rockers... they waste my time |
| ___________________________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:48pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] Lamp said:pam said:I'll buy you a beer, Lamp. Heh, I'm only 19 and don't drink but thanks for the gesture. Since neither of us drink, we could arm wrestle. Sounds sweet. |
| _____________________________ [Dec 7,2006 7:48pm - Lamp ""] blackmetallady said:They can call me when they are ready then... I could care less about hobby rockers... they waste my time You have articulated so well why nobody on this board likes you. |