ATTENTION RTTP HOBBY ROCKERS AND FOOLS[views:80565][posts:361]_________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 3:24pm - succubus ""] before you click on a thread, on the screen where you see the threads listed, right above the first thread you'll see 'IMG ON OFF" click on off. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 3:28pm - blackmetallady ""] oh, i see. thanks |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 3:33pm - Dwellingsickness ""] Pics are funny...You ruin the thread |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 3:35pm - blackmetallady ""] yummy said:I'm a hobby rocker and proud of it. This in no way makes me less of a musician. I can't speak for every band, but when you sacrifice originality, talent, and creativity, it makes you less of a musician. I am my audience, I'm not looking to tour, I like making music. If I didn't take it seriously then I would be sacrificing everything. Hobbies can span decades. I don't have anything aginst hobby rockers. It's just that I would rather not have them on my bills, because most if the time, they don't draw or really care to sell tickets (which waste my time). Understand? some might be able to sell tickets or really care about showing up on time load in, etc.... but I have yet to have met a band like that who I deem, "hobby rocker". |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 3:35pm - blackmetallady ""] Dwellingsickness said:Pics are funny...You ruin the thread I started the thread. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 3:52pm - blackmetallady ""] Josh_Martin said:"Hobby rocker" and proud right here. My "hobby" has gotten me two albums on Earache records, a bunch of eps and splits, several tours all over the U.S., U.K., Europe, and Japan, all of which made money. No promoter I've ever dealt with took merch money. Only shitbag jews like Massconcerts do that. Not being a shitbag jew is nothing to be proud of. You're not SUPPOSED to be a shitbag jew. Doing what you're supposed to do is not special. "blackmetallady" has no clue about anything. Its sad that this thread got any replies at all. IGNORE THE IDIOTS people. That's not nice, Josh. You're band is a rare kind dude. Most hobby rockers that have been on my bill show up late, don't really care about the show, etc. That's what I'm talking about. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 3:56pm - blackmetallady ""] Besides, the promoters are probably afraid of you. :D |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:05pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] blackmetallady said: You're band is a rare kind dude You are band? Is that English? |
| ____________________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:13pm - Robert Johnson Jr. ""] blackmetallady said:YOU PEOPLE. Don't even be bringing your racist bullshit up here on the board. YOU PEOPLE!!! Why don't you just say what you were thinking when you typed that. Admit it. You were going to say niggers! I say you should be banned you racist. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:27pm - blackmetallady ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:blackmetallady said: You're band is a rare kind dude You are band? Is that English? shut up, john |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:32pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Grow some eyebrows, cuntbag. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:35pm - blackmetallady ""] AUTOPSY_666 said:Grow some eyebrows, cuntbag. My brows are back. ps- you're just mad because I dumped you on Myspace. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:38pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Not mad, you are an annoying fucking cunt. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:40pm - blackmetallady ""] You didn't think so last week. You said you loved me and wanted to marry me. Do I have a witness, RTTP users? hehe |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:41pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Yeah, I totally meant that. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:45pm - blackmetallady ""] Too late. Everyone saw your post on my Myspace profile. :D |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:47pm - AUTOPSY_666 ""] Yeah, I totally meant that. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:48pm - blackmetallady ""] yeah, right |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:49pm - blackmetallady ""] The C word is bad... no wonder why you're single |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:50pm - the_reverend ""] blackmetallady said:That's not nice, Josh. You're band is a rare kind dude. Most hobby rockers that have been on my bill show up late, don't really care about the show, etc. That's what I'm talking about. isn't that the text book definition of a rockstar? |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 4:58pm - blackmetallady ""] haha... very true to an extent. You know what I'm talking about, though. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 5:03pm - anonymous ""] blackmetallady said:Too late. Everyone saw your post on my Myspace profile. :D He flirts with anything that has tits. You must have turned him down. He probably wanted you to take pictures of yourself while you were taking a dump, you said no and now he's being a tough guy. |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 5:04pm - blackmetallady ""] yucky!!!! |
| _______________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 6:57pm - blackmetallady ""] http://groups.myspace.com/mainemetalscene Look who joined my group... he's in the top 8 (I didn't place him there, it's just random). :D |
| ________________________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 9:49pm - If you don't know by now ""] This is true metal!!! |
| ____________________________________________ [Dec 9,2006 10:01pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""] blackmetallady said:yummy said:I'm a hobby rocker and proud of it. This in no way makes me less of a musician. I can't speak for every band, but when you sacrifice originality, talent, and creativity, it makes you less of a musician. I am my audience, I'm not looking to tour, I like making music. If I didn't take it seriously then I would be sacrificing everything. Hobbies can span decades. I don't have anything aginst hobby rockers. It's just that I would rather not have them on my bills, because most if the time, they don't draw or really care to sell tickets (which waste my time). Understand? some might be able to sell tickets or really care about showing up on time load in, etc.... but I have yet to have met a band like that who I deem, "hobby rocker". I bet you hate musicians who don't entirely care about being on Roadrunner Records because you were one of those people. You failed. So you hate others for it. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 12:35am - blackmetallady ""] No, not so. I play violin for fun and for love of the instroment. Therefore, I guess you can say I'm hobby rocker too. However, I'm not in a band promsing a promoter to sell x amount of tickets and then showing up for load-in time late, not selling any tickets, ect. The bands that really care about their band and career/hobby will show up on time and actually ask their fans and friends to go to the show for support. If, however, they don't have any fans yet, then they should sell tickets to family members and personal friends (just to get their foot in the door), and then, by the exsposure, they will gain fans from other bands on the bill that do have a fan base. I remember when my brother-in-law first started a band without fans. I could have been on the guest list, but I bought a ticket to support his band (as well as the rest of my family). This, in turn, got him respect from the promoter, in which gave him more shows... then after the first few shows, he started to gain his own fans and was able to sell tickets without a problem. See what i mean? However, when I give newer bands a first chance at a show, some bands don't even bother to try to sell tickets to their friends and family to get them started. That's when bands waste my time, and therefore, I deem them, "hobby rockers." Please don't misunderstand me. I should have been more clear before. It's ok to do it for fun, just don't ask to be on a bill if you can't come through, because there are other plenty of bands out there that will try harder. I've been burned a few times, but now I know who are the real deals are rather than, "hobby rockers." Do you know what I mean now? I've had a band show up to play on a national show and only sold 2 tickets between 5 guys. That was pathetic. I should have given another band a chance that was more serious, because I had many inquires. But, it's trial and error. I can see why some promoters have the policy "play to play", because it covers the promoters ass. But, I don't like to do that and I continue to give a new band a chance every now and then. Sometimes, they disapoint me and are not asked back, but I work hard for the ones who work hard for me. That was a mouth full! I don't mean any disrepesct.... it's just that there is a lot of money on the line producing a national show for local band that just doesn't give a fuck when there are bands out there that would love to play a national. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 1:01am - Pdidle ""] Surge from The Bombshelter used to run off the same line of crap to the bands. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 1:07am - blackmetallady ""] It's true though, dude. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but I always mention the locals on radio and tv ads... that's good exsposure. Moreover, I think I almost froze my fingers from passing out 2,000 flyers at the Disturbed concert for my upcoming FBC show (with all the locals mentioned on the flyers). I do try hard. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 1:07am - Dissector ""] blackmetallady said:dertoxia said:blackmetallady said:DrinkHardThrashHard said:Does every band have to be gunning for Century Media and the Billboard Top 40 for you to accept them? YES i would be appaled if at any point in my life i actually made money playing music. thats not why i do it. thats not why anyone on here does it. we dont play music to have a big house and shiny cars. we do it because we like it and we want other people to like what we do. actually....fuck that. we dont even care if other people like what we do. we just do it for ourselves. you are completely self absorbed and expect people to give you money just for you existing. i absolutely despise going to shows of nationally touring bands. i just look at what theyre charging for merch. i've never seen a local band charge more than maybe $15 for a shirt yet i see these nationals charging fourty-fuckin-five dollars??! what does that tell me? they aren't in it for the music anymore, theyre in it for the money. i don't respect people like that and i dont respect you. get aids you filthy dumpster whore. Oh my, silly boy. You know abosolutely nothing. These "touring bands" eat from merch money, that's how they make most of their money. God, the money they have to pay back to the labels and such is a lot! The merch is what they rely on. Morover, most promoters take 15-50% of merch money from the band at every show. THAT's WRONG. I never take merch money, because I know that's how they survive on the road. This is why I'm a well liked promoter by nationals. So stick that up your ass and learn the biz. Exactly why I never want to sign to a "real" label. Why would I want a record company to front mopney for my band to go on tour when I can do it myself and not have to pay anybody back. My band and Rich Horror's band self financed our own tour during the summer and I believe we're doing so again in Feb. Also, I've never had a promoter take 15-20%. Maybe in big venues like The Palladium and shit like that, but who the fuck would want to paly their anyways? It's obvious you suck of bigger label's dicks. Century Media, Metal Blade, shit like that isn't real metal. Real metal is DIY. You stick it up your ass and learn the real underground "biz" Because jsut about everybody I know doesn't want to be signed or famous. I hope you get hit by a truck so I can go to your funeral and laugh at your pathetic horse faced body. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 1:55am - Pdidle ""] blackmetallady said:It's true though, dude. I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but I always mention the locals on radio and tv ads... that's good exsposure. Moreover, I think I almost froze my fingers from passing out 2,000 flyers at the Disturbed concert for my upcoming FBC show (with all the locals mentioned on the flyers). I do try hard. No, instead you want US to pat you on your hairy back for advrtising the bands on your bill.... like that's some special thing only you do. Of coarse you have to include the opening acts on your flyers and ads, no one's going there to see full blown chaos. |
| __________________________________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 2:04am - jim_is_signed_up_for_an_account ""] blackmetallady said:No, not so. I play violin for fun and for love of the instroment. Therefore, I guess you can say I'm hobby rocker too. However, I'm not in a band promsing a promoter to sell x amount of tickets and then showing up for load-in time late, not selling any tickets, ect. The bands that really care about their band and career/hobby will show up on time and actually ask their fans and friends to go to the show for support. If, however, they don't have any fans yet, then they should sell tickets to family members and personal friends (just to get their foot in the door), and then, by the exsposure, they will gain fans from other bands on the bill that do have a fan base. I remember when my brother-in-law first started a band without fans. I could have been on the guest list, but I bought a ticket to support his band (as well as the rest of my family). This, in turn, got him respect from the promoter, in which gave him more shows... then after the first few shows, he started to gain his own fans and was able to sell tickets without a problem. See what i mean? However, when I give newer bands a first chance at a show, some bands don't even bother to try to sell tickets to their friends and family to get them started. That's when bands waste my time, and therefore, I deem them, "hobby rockers." Please don't misunderstand me. I should have been more clear before. It's ok to do it for fun, just don't ask to be on a bill if you can't come through, because there are other plenty of bands out there that will try harder. I've been burned a few times, but now I know who are the real deals are rather than, "hobby rockers." Do you know what I mean now? I've had a band show up to play on a national show and only sold 2 tickets between 5 guys. That was pathetic. I should have given another band a chance that was more serious, because I had many inquires. But, it's trial and error. I can see why some promoters have the policy "play to play", because it covers the promoters ass. But, I don't like to do that and I continue to give a new band a chance every now and then. Sometimes, they disapoint me and are not asked back, but I work hard for the ones who work hard for me. That was a mouth full! I don't mean any disrepesct.... it's just that there is a lot of money on the line producing a national show for local band that just doesn't give a fuck when there are bands out there that would love to play a national. im sorry but all i get out of this is that you consider music to be a business, of course it is, and that goes against a lot of what metal and hardcore stands for unless you value the money more than the art of music itself that is way DIY metal and hardcore would spit in your face, you dumb bitch. the only person that should be concerned with business is [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 2:28am - blackmetallady ""] Dude, who wants to lose money on a show? It sucks too loose over a grand... believe me. But, i keep going and that's dedication, because I didn't have underground metal shows in Maine when I was a kid and couldn't afford to go to Mass for one. That's why I do it. But, hey, a girl's gotta eat right? |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 2:29am - blackmetallady ""] I'm not a bitch and I resent that comment. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 2:44am - DeRtOxIa ""] why don't you try not posting twice, one minute apart to addon to your original post. it makes you look like an idiot who can't collect their thoughts. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 2:59am - blackmetallady ""] I can collect my thoughts fine... but I'm fuckin' bourd dude. |
| __________________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 3:18am - davefromthegrave ""] blackmetallady said:I'm not a bitch I disagree blackmetallady said:I can collect my thoughts fine... but I'm fuckin' bourd dude. bourd, huh? well why don't you try reading a dictionary? |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 4:06am - blackmetallady ""] after 3 glasses of Merlot at home... I don't give a fuck, baby |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 6:01pm - blackmetallady ""] ha! |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 10,2006 7:34pm - dreadkill ""] [img] this needs to be reposted because it's the funniest thing i've ever seen. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 11,2006 9:09am - xmikex ""] blackmetallady said:fuck, baby fuck babies? that's fucking gross. |
| _______________________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 5:59pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] der fool |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 22,2009 6:59pm - TheBloodening ""] Fuck i just spent at least an hour reading that, that was awesome!!! Maybe bands stopped caring/selling tickets/and showing up late because the "BIG PROMOTERS" kept fucking them over. It is 100% true, you're probably one of them. |
| _____________________________ [Jan 22,2009 7:09pm - pam ""] Ah, BlackMetalLady...someday I will finally get to deliver that long delayed punch in the face I promised you. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 9:22am - DestroyYouAlot ""] I support this bump. |
| _______________________________ [Jan 23,2009 10:37am - Yeti ""] hahahaha oh man this was so epic. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 10:43am - Josh_Martin ""] This is an actual message that Black Metal Horseface sent me back then. This rules. "Dude, if you google my name, Leigh Rush, the first thing that comes up is your lame thread about me. That's not good for my other businesses at all. It entails my work phone number and I can't have that anymore. It's out of control... this is just wrong. Ask the Rev to change that headline and remove my name. Serioulsy, man this effects my business's a lot. I just took on another client that I'm managing (Trouble) and one of the band members found that thread while googling my name. I'm working with new people for endorsements on their upcoming tour and I can't have people googling that... because people do google names. This is just not cool. Thank you. Leigh" |
| _______________________________ [Jan 23,2009 10:45am - Yeti ""] hahahaha i smell an Anal Cunt song. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 23,2009 10:45am - pam ""] Sadly Josh that is no longer true, I just googled her name and found, um, NOTHING about her at all. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 23,2009 1:13pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] POSTING IN AN EPIC THREAD Thanks, guys - I've successfully wasted another morning reading this whole thing through, AGAIN. LOL |