attn: kids who frequent palladium shows (a rant on rttp's behalf)
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[Jul 19,2010 4:33pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing a nice round of duck duck goose at a Composted show, but that should be obvious.
Cool corpse paint/cargo short combo, bro.
[Jul 19,2010 4:34pm - AlxNLI ""]
Don't blame age, blame deathcore.
[Jul 19,2010 4:34pm - mutis ""]
If shit like this happens when Nåthruyzm plays in MA again, it better be a game of Duck Duck Moose. Just sayin'
[Jul 19,2010 4:35pm - arilliusbm ""]
I'm just glad when I was 16,18,19, whatever, I never bothered with this nonsense.
Dragonforce 6 years ago is the same. CoB played with Amon Amarth about 6 year ago and it was the same thing too. I don't remember shit like THIS happening.
Mark- Of course. In fact, organize one for the next show.
[Jul 19,2010 4:38pm - AlxNLI ""]
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[Jul 19,2010 4:44pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
arilliusbm said:I'm just glad when I was 16,18,19, whatever, I never bothered with this nonsense.
Dragonforce 6 years ago is the same. CoB played with Amon Amarth about 6 year ago and it was the same thing too. I don't remember shit like THIS happening.
Mark- Of course. In fact, organize one for the next show.
I think our version would be more like "duck duck cockpunch."
[Jul 19,2010 4:45pm - largefreakatzero ""]
Duck, duck...RAPE?
[Jul 19,2010 4:46pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
That's Scaphism's version.
[Jul 19,2010 4:47pm - arilliusbm ""]
Duck..Duck..ALs STEAK AND CHEESE PUNCH
[Jul 19,2010 4:48pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""]
20" steak and cheese punch.
[Jul 19,2010 4:50pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
you cant expect that complaining about the way young metal heads act will fix their behaviour when you make no effort to teach them otherwise.
[Jul 19,2010 4:52pm - arilliusbm ""]
there is no answer, as previously stated. What are you going to do, jump on stage and call them out?
Of course the best way would be to start a fight.
[Jul 19,2010 4:53pm - bobnomaamrooney ""]
Only folded arms and gentle dissonant nodding are real.
[Jul 19,2010 4:55pm - Dankill ""]
Dysentary = Duck Duck Benchpress
Hivesmasher = Duck Duck Sock full of broken Jack Daniels glass
IWEIPH = Duck Duck Xanax
Sexcrement = Duck Duck.....
bennyhillifier
[Jul 19,2010 4:55pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i'm just saying how can you expect kids to know the "unwritten rules of metal" when then have are so new to the whole thing. when i was that age i learned from older kids and watching Pantera Videos. it is what it is. i dont really think its the kid's faults. they are more or less a product a shallow worthless and mislead generation.
[Jul 19,2010 4:57pm - arilliusbm ""]
FIMs, this was a general complaint- or rather, an analysis at how bad these crowds are now. I figured most would somewhat agree, but the fact remain that this nonsense is getting worse ad worse as each year passes. The metal fanbase are all watered down vaginas now- if you can think of a way to get the message across on a larger scale, be my guest.
Perhaps an album making fun of palladium kids?
[Jul 19,2010 4:59pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
lol ya i know waht you mean. i was more or less just discussing the subject rather than arguing. i cant even bring myself to go to an Opeth show any more because of this crap. i dont have any answers for it either really. just put my blinders on now i guess.
[Jul 19,2010 5:01pm - mutis ""]
This reminds me of a show that happened in Vermont a few weeks ago. Apparently Dr. Acula offended some kids at a show, and as a result they stood in the center of the mosh pit with their arms folded. Dr. Acula called the crowd a bunch of "straightedge faggots" and gathered 20 random people to jump the kids after the show. Though I guess that's expected from fucking bro-core douchebag music.
[Jul 19,2010 5:04pm - arilliusbm ""]
I would somewhat disgree. We were all kids at one point, yes. But a.) metal is different now
b.) there are so many shitty bands (even more than 10-15 years ago)
c.) their generation is quite sad. think of how much tge world has changed in 10 years.
In short, like you said, these kids are a product of shallow generation. There is nothing we can do.
It is a good example of how metal has changed. Want to know? Look at the crowds. I go to shows for music only, and it isn't the same anymore.
[Jul 19,2010 5:04pm - largefreakatzero ""]
FuckIsMySignature said:i'm just saying how can you expect kids to know the "unwritten rules of metal" when then have are so new to the whole thing. when i was that age i learned from older kids and watching Pantera Videos. it is what it is. i dont really think its the kid's faults. they are more or less a product a shallow worthless and mislead generation.
It is the kids' faults. Nobody taught me to be cool, and I am the coolest fucking person I know.
[Jul 19,2010 5:04pm - ValkyrieScreams ""]
I'm pretty sure my first metal show at the Palladium was when I was around 16 and I gotta say that I LIKE the fact that the community has grown in popularity and continues to attract big acts to the stage. But at the same time, all these goddamn sheep & peacocks cheapen the experience. They gain a little exposure to some Metallica /Children of Bodom /Cannibal Corpse and a couple other well known bands and then start calling themselves metalheads and start trying to present an easily recognizable image to others in the community. Some of them go on to actually learn what its all about but the majority just take up floor space at shows and enable mediocre bands to gain success over great bands. We all had to start somewhere, its just annoying when they try to put on a front like they're so grim & baddass just to gain acceptance within a genere that never really aimed to be accepted in the first place. Like it for what it is, not just to make a fashion statement.
[Jul 19,2010 5:07pm - arilliusbm ""]
^^yupp
[Jul 19,2010 5:09pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
my moral of the story:
21+ local shows FTW. i have more fun at ralphs and obriens shows then anything. i treat the big National Act shows like field trips to the Zoo to see all the strange animals behave in mildly entertaining ways.
[Jul 19,2010 5:19pm - ValkyrieScreams ""]
Lmfao @ The Zoo! Like I said... "peacocks and sheep".
[Jul 19,2010 5:20pm - arilliusbm ""]
That was a good analogy FIMS. Star and flag.
[Jul 19,2010 5:21pm - Lamp ""]
I've never even been to the Palladium. I gotta agree with FIMS here, I'm glad I spent my younger years at houses, warehouses, and AS220. The bigger places just attract too many peckers who don't care about music all that much.
[Jul 19,2010 5:22pm - Lamp ""]
And yes, if I saw a bunch of assholes playing duck duck goose in the middle of the floor, I would charge right through them.
[Jul 19,2010 5:27pm - Woah!_Shut_It_Down! ""]
Haven't been to the Palladium yet but I shall make my debut there for Summer Slaughter. With the deathcore acts on the bill, I won't be surprised if I have to knock down some shirtless skinny-jeaned blondies. It's all in good fun.
[Jul 19,2010 5:30pm - Archaeon ""]
This thread reminds me why I hate metal shows so much.
[Jul 19,2010 5:33pm - arilliusbm ""]
Archaeon said:This thread reminds me why I hate metal shows so much.
because you got jackass dudes like me or yeti who despise certain idiosyncratic things the younger kids do?
[Jul 19,2010 5:34pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
kids today... they dont know about the JAZZ MUSIC
[Jul 19,2010 5:35pm - RustyPS ""]
Dankill said:Dysentary = Duck Duck Benchpress
Hivesmasher = Duck Duck Sock full of broken Jack Daniels glass
IWEIPH = Duck Duck Xanax
Sexcrement = Duck Duck.....
bennyhillifier
Porphyria = Duck Duck Football Riffs
did I do it right?
[Jul 19,2010 5:38pm - arilliusbm ""]
FuckIsMySignature said:kids today... they dont know about the JAZZ MUSIC
miles' davis kind of blue > all metal
[Jul 19,2010 5:50pm - Archaeon ""]
arilliusbm said:
Archaeon said:This thread reminds me why I hate metal shows so much.
because you got jackass dudes like me or yeti who despise certain idiosyncratic things the younger kids do?
By no means am I in favor of kids doing stupid bullshit during bands but metal fans just suck. Sorry boiz. Metal shows could be so much more fun if metal heads weren't so stuck up.
in b4 NFG and pink strats.
[Jul 19,2010 5:54pm - Lamp ""]
Metal heads are perfectly content with just watching the bands it seems. It's way better than playing duck duck goose, at least it shows they're into the music. But I don't go to shows to stand around with my thumb up my ass... this is why I prefer punk/grind shows.
[Jul 19,2010 5:58pm - arilliusbm ""]
I've never met a pop punk fan that ddnt like the smell of their own shit. Just sayin'.
[Jul 19,2010 6:01pm - Doomkid ""]
Every new generation of kids is going to be weird and awkward and do things at show that older people think is odd. Anyone remember tickle pits and such things @ the House of Suffering Succotash and other places in Boston back around 2000?
Metal heads aren't stuck up, they just hate seeing people having fun they don't understand.
[Jul 19,2010 6:04pm - arktouros ""]
I'm not the least bit stuck up. I was into NFG while I was in high skool. My 2nd show ever was TGUK at the palladium. I have rarely ever exchanged words with a stuck up douchebag at a metal show. I like the bands I like on a personal level and just have an overall bad attitude towards product vs. art. Metal fans suck is just a wrong statement.
[Jul 19,2010 6:06pm - Doomkid ""]
What tour did you see TGUK @ The Palladium?
[Jul 19,2010 6:08pm - arktouros ""]
hmmmmmm not sure but they played with Hot Rod Circuit.
[Jul 19,2010 6:11pm - arilliusbm ""]
Excuuuuuuuuuse me princess?
Analyzing the social changes within metal's community is dumb? Granted this thread and the way I went about it was a half-jest at best, but I think it is a legit topic by every means? Why?
Because metal is something I hold dearly and the younger fans (again, NO problem here) are changing, just as metal is. It is a subculture that is losing its roots and respect. The fact remains that the palladium crowds are full of nitwits; a number that is increasing daily. I don't write or listen to music for anyone else but myself, but as valkyriescreams mentioned, these shows are becoming more of joke, as reflected in the crowd. I guess I will bite my tongue and ignore it.
No one one seems to talk about it, this thread was made for discussion on the changes within the metal fanbase. It's obvious it's not like it was. I don't really care, as long as my favorite type of music isn't destroyed by the sheep.
[Jul 19,2010 6:12pm - arktouros ""]
Oh yeah. It was On a Wire. Still really dig "Walking on a Wire". They also played with Superchunk who always rules.
[Jul 19,2010 6:13pm - Archaeon ""]
arktouros said:I'm not the least bit stuck up. I was into NFG while I was in high skool. My 2nd show ever was TGUK at the palladium. I have rarely ever exchanged words with a stuck up douchebag at a metal show. I like the bands I like on a personal level and just have an overall bad attitude towards product vs. art. Metal fans suck is just a wrong statement.
I'm making an over generalization by saying metal fans suck. If I meant all of them I'd be saying I suck. Which i do, but whatever.
[Jul 19,2010 6:16pm - arilliusbm ""]
I just like coming off as a stuck up douche on this site. It's always fun. Like bloodeyebetty's "attn:aril" thread.
[Jul 19,2010 6:19pm - Lamp ""]
It's that stuck up douche attitude on this site that leads to some of the best discussion here.
Assholes > nice people
[Jul 19,2010 6:20pm - arktouros ""]
Archaeon, word.
Aril, what about the general fanbase of the more occult/extreme bands that we enjoy. I feel like it's a metal contest nearly every show I go to, but I'm not quick to judge. I don't feel like I have to prove that metal is my altar, but I swear some of these people do. I like the zoo analogy FIMS made, I feel like every show I go to is a (petting) zoo. Like the dude who almost took you out with a wooden fence. At least he didn't slap you on the head and say "GOOSE" too.
[Jul 19,2010 6:20pm - arilliusbm ""]
NFG? Only Blink182 is real.
[Jul 19,2010 6:24pm - Archaeon ""]
Blink-182 and NFG don't even sound the same. Just saying. It's like comparing Death and Suffocation. To the untrained ear its the same bullshit.
[Jul 19,2010 6:31pm - arilliusbm ""]
Ark, honestly?
I admit, for a few years I held a more "kvlt" stance on black and death metal. I don't really care about anything anymore; I'm extremely open minded with music but a little close minded with the direction metal is going in. As with anything, individualism is what makes people. And yes, lately it really only matters how many patches you have on your jean vest, or how many occult books one has read to the point they consider themselves a real occultist. I think there are too many insecure metalheads- too afraid to admit their guilty pleasures out of fear of losing faux credibility within the metal community. The fact that you mentioned you liked NF. Is a good thing because it shows you're not afraid to mention it.
Most blackmetal fans are always hiding something and can't be true to themselves.
Nothing is worse than people who haven't found their identity yet. I give grant and martins shit but they are in the process of doing so. Many metal/ heavy music people just need to stop being insecure. My 2 cents.
[Jul 19,2010 6:34pm - slag nli ""]
I like music.