HELVETE BOSTON OFFICIALLY CANCELLED[views:102978][posts:457]__________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 8:04am - Falcifer ""] I recieved this email this morning: chris, helvete night is officially canceled at obriens. there will be no show next week. I’ve had too many people asking and suggesting the night is some sort of white power night and too much bad vibes about it already. no one on the staff at the club wants it to continue, and it’s not the type of notoriety the room cares to be a part of. thanks, shred I will personally see that this organization who started this rumor and got us cancelled pays. You know who you are. Now I would like to say Hail to all those who made this last year a good one for metal. I met some fantastic people during this time. I thought Boston was ready for a night like this... I guess I was wrong. Metal has no place in popular Boston and never will. As a result HelveteBoston.com will officially be shut down... Hail and Farewell Chris |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 8:40am - RustedAngel ""] gee. I wonder who could be involved in black metal and white power. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 8:49am - JayTUS ""] That's fucked up. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 8:57am - korpse-l- ""] that sucks. especially because i never got to go to one and i was looking forward to going to one. maybe another club will pick it up. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:07am - shatteredliz ""] Damn, this sucks. I reallly enjoyed the Helvet shows. I already had about six people coming with me to the next show. Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I don't understand why this show got such a bad reputation. It;s just a bunch of people getting together to listen to metal, and there's nothing wrong wtih that. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:12am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Thanks alot whoever started that rumor, boston metal definately needed another set back. Helvete was a great time. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:16am - Falcifer ""] We were targeted by NEFAC - North Eastern Federation of Anarchist Communists. WE WERE SHUT DOWN BY PEACE PUNKS! FUCKING COMMUNISTS... misinformed gutter punks with nothing else to do but take away something that they do not understand. Quite frankly I don't see the difference between these guys and the religious zealots who currently control the country. And another thing the one in charge of this whole thing is the lead singer for a band called Czolgosz. A band named after Leon Czolgosz. A man who assassinated President McKinley. A MURDERER! There is no justice. Just another case of other people telling you what you can’t do. I don't see another club picking us up after something like this. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:17am - Falcifer ""] This is their website... http://www.nefac.net/ Its 1/2 in french... tells you where their collective heads are! Hows that for racist! |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:25am - TerribleNightSteve ""] That really sucks. I only got to go to this one time at the Paradise and I was excited that it was at Obriens. damn |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:34am - litacore ""] fuck-fuckity-FUCK! FUCK! FUCK! what the hell? That is BULLSHIT! what is fucking WRONG with this town? TONS, apparently! SHIT! :( |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:34am - the_reverend ""] I know that I for one didn't ruin it. I was too busy ruining hardcore. plus, it was always on a monday night. a night that I'm forever dedicated to something else. on the whole NEFAC thing... it always really impressed me how rich brats like to think they are "anarchists" and try to bring down or change governments by not showering. reminds me of this hippie kid from college who kept trying to bring woodstock everywhere. last I knew, he was running with the wolf spirits which lead him to burn down a house and he got commited to some place. oh, and there is nothing wrong with french. especially if a bit tittied hotty is giving you a BJ and she speaks french. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:39am - litacore ""] I have LESS THAN NOTHING against the French. Not only are some kick-ass metal bands French, Belgian, French-Canadian (hello VOIVOD, CRYPTOPSY, ABORTED, SUBLIME CADAVERIC DECOMPOSITION), but there hails from there some of the best literary lights in surrealist/extreme fiction (BECKETT *Irish emigree, but still*, DE NERVAL, DE SADE, LAUTREMONT) what I do have a problem with is these poser-crust fucks ruining any possible outlet we have for real metal in this town. DAMMIT! |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:42am - paganmegan ""] Well this doesn't ruin my day or anything Jesus christ these people piss me off so much I can't even articulate how angry this makes me Alot of people really look forward to helvete because it provided the opportunity to listen to metal with a group of people.. people listen to metal and they drink. Since when is that a fucking crime? |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:42am - litacore ""] here's a question: does Providence win now? Looks it. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:44am - paganmegan ""] Boston officially sucks for BM |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:46am - succubus ""] the_reverend said: oh, and there is nothing wrong with french. especially if a bit tittied hotty is giving you a BJ and she speaks french. :bow: merci mon amour |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:46am - litacore ""] paganmegan said:Boston officially sucks for BM fuck dude, time will tell. What were we talkin' about earlier. But maybe the whole entire country is THIS fucked. let it fuel your anger and conviction for playing the music you love.:whipper: |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:46am - succubus ""] Falcifer said:We were targeted by NEFAC - North Eastern Federation of Anarchist Communists. WE WERE SHUT DOWN BY PEACE PUNKS! FUCKING COMMUNISTS... misinformed gutter punks with nothing else to do but take away something that they do not understand. Quite frankly I don't see the difference between these guys and the religious zealots who currently control the country. And another thing the one in charge of this whole thing is the lead singer for a band called Czolgosz. A band named after Leon Czolgosz. A man who assassinated President McKinley. A MURDERER! There is no justice. Just another case of other people telling you what you can’t do. I don't see another club picking us up after something like this. that's fucked up... please don't give up though... |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:48am - Falcifer ""] the_reverend said:I know that I for one didn't ruin it. I was too busy ruining hardcore. plus, it was always on a monday night. a night that I'm forever dedicated to something else. on the whole NEFAC thing... it always really impressed me how rich brats like to think they are "anarchists" and try to bring down or change governments by not showering. reminds me of this hippie kid from college who kept trying to bring woodstock everywhere. last I knew, he was running with the wolf spirits which lead him to burn down a house and he got commited to some place. oh, and there is nothing wrong with french. especially if a bit tittied hotty is giving you a BJ and she speaks french. You have no idea how right on you are about these people. The person in question while fronting this "cause" tours with his band all over the world... fine right? WRONG! His parents own a FEW very successful specialty markets/eateries in the South End... he comes back on tour and still has a job working for mommy and daddy in their cushy stores. Talk about a golden parachute… BY THE WAY THE FRENCH COMMENT WAS A JOKE… just trying to find any and all humor in this dark time. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:50am - litacore ""] goddamn! That is downright iniquitous. well, my personal hails to you for everything you accomplished with the project, dude. I couldn't go every time but I had a blast during the ones I could, especially the Horn of Valere show. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 9:52am - Joe/NotCommon ""] litacore said:paganmegan said:Boston officially sucks for BM fuck dude, time will tell. What were we talkin' about earlier. But maybe the whole entire country is THIS fucked. let it fuel your anger and conviction for playing the music you love.:whipper: I don't think the rest of the country is the same as Massachsuetts, artistic expression is forbidden here. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:00am - Joe/NotCommon ""] I don't know other peoples feelings, is anyone blaming O'Brien's at all? I see where they are coming from if they were getting alot of bad publicity because those anarchist kids convinced people Helvete was white power. I think Shred is the only cool guy in the club scene around here, as far as booking shows. Purp, the sound guy at O'Briens is awesome too. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:00am - Falcifer ""] What burns me the most is the club completely folded and offered no support or listened to reason. We actually went to NEFAC explained what we were doing and what we were about... they were ready to blockade/protest (shows you how much time these people have) the 01/31 Helvete... |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:00am - succubus ""] again, i wish people would not give up...make your voices heard! |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:03am - Falcifer ""] You read his email the guy folded... I can understand his concerns, but give us a chance to explain... the one thing I don't understand is the "too much bad vibes about it already" comment... it to me smacks of prejudice against "metal" and "long hairs". |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:05am - Joe/NotCommon ""] Yeah thats true, Shred does seem to completely against anything white power, the mere mention of it pisses him off. Did you get my email? |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:08am - Falcifer ""] Got it... sounds like a really good idea. Thanks a lot! |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:09am - paganmegan ""] Don't let helvete die!! |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:14am - Falcifer ""] paganmegan said:Don't let helvete die!! All I can promise is we will try, but this is a serious blow to take. The stigma of "racist" or "white power organization" is a tough one to over come... especially in this close-minded town. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:16am - paganmegan ""] I fail to see how metalheads getting together once a month to listen to music and bands that don't suck constitutes racism or white power, the assholes |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:18am - litacore ""] such injustice. NSBM association doesn't seem credible to me, they just pre-judge Black Metal because of 'Access Hollywood' or 'Hard Copy' type of media coverage |
| ________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:19am - dan. ""] wow a bunch of suburban white anarchists protesting a metal night with bands they will ironicly listen to in 2 years. oops, sorry they dont live in the suburbs anymore - they live in allston. so fucking gay. |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:36am - litacore ""] this is one of their contacts: smash_rich_bastards@yahoo.com so . . . they're a pro-suicide or masochistic organization? seriously, I'm a fairly intelligent person, and I hate fascism even more than metalcore. But this just seems like they mis-directed their activism towards the wrong target. I don't get it (am I supposed to?) |
| ________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:45am - dan. ""] their fucking idiots. any 'real anarchists' would have much more important things to focus on. like constructively contributing to the community. not boycotting a metal night because they think it might somehow be associated with white power. their fucking idiots. i dont even care to look because ill just get pissed off. boston is the shittiest city in the history of the world..ever. 'a whales vagina!' |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:45am - RustedAngel ""] I don't get it, just tell the owner of o'briens that you guys are not affiliated with white power, tell this nefac org. to fuck off or fight you all. [/end] |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:49am - litacore ""] ok, I gotta send 'em an e-mail. I'm left of center, my DAD was even more left than I (and was blacklisted by Fuckhead Joe McCarthy for it), but along with general political savvy I love music and particularly metal. So . . . this melts my brain. I'm not going to send them a hate rant, that's beneath my intelligence. I just want some clarifications from them. What they did makes very little sense to me. I'm not writing as a member of any organization, certainly not of Helvete or even my own BM band. Just as a native citizen of this cold and blustery state. anybody want to include their 2 cents, do it soon or e-me by Noon: litacore@att.net |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:57am - Falcifer ""] RustedAngel said:I don't get it, just tell the owner of o'briens that you guys are not affiliated with white power, tell this nefac org. to fuck off or fight you all. [/end] Don't think for once that I just got this email and that is it. Not by any stretch of the imagination. This has been going back and forth for the better part of a month. We got wind of this through a person who knows NEFAC... she said that we were on a "watch list" or "on their radar" for being a meeting place for white power. Then the phone calls to MY HOUSE started. Telling us to "stop" "its not right" "you should know better" "that is a white power band" and such... I have been dealing and trying to calm these people down. They were full on ready to set up a blockade of this months Helvete/CNV show. Period. We went to them and explained and talked... they decided to call the protest off, but to "keep watching"... I guess the club, as you read, didn't want the stigma or even deal with the "bad vibes"... we have already done a lot... quite frankly I am tired and the only thing that will keep me going is the PURE HATRED I now feel for this organization. |
| ________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 10:57am - dan. ""] are you guys going to be playing soon? did you find a drummer? |
| ________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:04am - CNV? ""] no wonder, because CNV is white power. That band or someone in the band is responsible for posting all the white power propaganda on this board from time to time. There was a thread about a week ago suggesting racist beliefs... |
| ________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:13am - dan. ""] oh my god... i just realized nefac is the anarchocommunist group. these kids are the biggest fucking joke on the planet. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:19am - paganmegan ""] Why would anyone even consider a group that affiliates themselves with communism credible in the least? |
| ___________________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:21am - WhyamIandasshole ""] I cant even make sense of the website. It just made my eyes hurt and my dick drip. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:22am - RustedAngel ""] I don't understand that website at all either, looks like a pile of asshair. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:28am - the_reverend ""] as someone who has not been to one of these events, the only thing "white power" that I've heard from people is reports of someone doing the "seig heil" thing outside the club (when it was at the paradise), but don't blame the event cause one person was a retard at a show. it's too bad the commies don't have something better to do with their time.. like feed straving kids or something... maybe make a difference and save a life instead of "going for the glory" and crushing what people want or choose to do with their lives. Oh wait! feeding starving kids doesn't get you any glory or headlines so who the fuck would want to do that! |
| ________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:33am - dan. ""] i think anarchists are pretty fucking gay, but i can confidently say this has nothing to do with real anarchists who have (or at least think they have) much more important things to care about. i would love to go to a nefac meeting and hit everyone of those motherfuckers in the face with a flail. "anarcho communist" is the dumbest fucking thing ive ever heard in my life. GAY GAY GAY |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:37am - Christraper ""] CNV? said:no wonder, because CNV is white power. That band or someone in the band is responsible for posting all the white power propaganda on this board from time to time. There was a thread about a week ago suggesting racist beliefs... care to elaborate? |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:42am - paganmegan ""] If one person is racist, it doesn't make everyone around them racist, thats just as biased.. and who are these anarchocommie bastards to point fingers anyways? |
| ________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:44am - dan. ""] didnt you know that if you are in your band space getting drunk and calling your friends fags it automatically turns the entire building into a secret underground society hellbent on the destruction of human rights? you should know that!! |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 11:47am - paganmegan ""] dan. said:didnt you know that if you are in your band space getting drunk and calling your friends fags it automatically turns the entire building into a secret underground society hellbent on the destruction of human rights? you should know that!! Well, I guess these guys are gonna come after me next then |
| __________________________________ [Jan 25,2005 12:34pm - notCNV ""] Well, it's not just ONE person or band unfortunately. |