HELVETE BOSTON OFFICIALLY CANCELLED[views:102927][posts:457]__________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 3:30pm - CNV nli ""] the above post was CNV |
| ________________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 3:34pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] litacore said:Thomas More had a Utopian view of the world until Henry VIII lopped his head off i'm really starting to like you Hahaha ! |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 3:55pm - anonymous ""] Falcifier: "You quoted me and it looks that by your last line its "your side who seem to be inciting the violence". Thanks a lot for the direct threat. It does wonders for your stance" My stance? My stance is fuck nazis and their fence-walking apologists. I also have a stance on violence: I enthusiastically support it. I know alot of people who feel the same way, and they aren't that hard to mobilize. Once again, make a move and see what happens. Falcifer: "We internally are dealing with our "problems". Cool. Sort your problems out and relaunch your metal night, minus the nazi elements, and I got no beef with you. But if you keep running your mouth about "pay back" and it ever materializes, well then there's gonna be some problems at your doorstep asshole. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 3:59pm - Josh_Martin ""] How are these anti-facist losers any different than Joe Mcarthy? |
| ________________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:04pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] McCarthy had cool Nazi signs......oops wait no that was Hitler |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:04pm - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| ________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:05pm - Gemini ""] Hello. Gemini here of Cold Northern Vengeance. Too bad we had gotten cancelled, and have somehow helped to cause Helvete to be in the position it is in. I will be breif, since i think chatting on message boards is a big waste of time. Cold northern Vengeance is interested in Music, and Occultism. We are NOT NSBM, we Really HATE politics, and our main interest is in our selves creating music. We enjoy creating sonic images. Only Analog is real!!! I cannot deny i have pride in my heritage, and the northland the ancestors chose for us, that should be normal. It is true stupid things by members have been said, in a political taste, but these things are left wholly out of the music, we feel that only spiritual, and dark topics are the true keys to this music. In fact, politics really bore us, they do nothing. With that said, stop complaining, unless you hate people that would rather hang out in the woods than be a part of the normal life (sounds kinda hippyish, does it not??) A big honor to the guys in Helvete, your gatherings were the only true in the area for black metal. DONT let helvete burrow itself. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:07pm - the_reverend ""] like capitolist... like communist [img] |
| ________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:10pm - Gemini ""] oh yeah, people that actually live the lifestyle of hunting and killing people because of race are the equal standing as these communists who wholly enfore the condensing of all they dislike to the world around them. And yes, this seems fascist to me. Just pitiful. We think both these White Power types, and homeless anarchos are entwined and the same. But, im not going to stop you and your beliefs, i could care less. The eight sided star is in the real power. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:12pm - the_reverend ""] and I will say now, that I don't care about any personal beliefs that people in CNV have. The music is really really good and I would have them play my radio show at some point. |
| __________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:12pm - succubus ""] the_reverend said:[img] awesome pic |
| ________________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:12pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] damn some punch and pie would rule right now. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:15pm - SINOFANGELS-RAY ""] I said we should All share a GOD DAM juice Box |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:29pm - swamplorddvm ""] I think we should keep talking about juice boxes. Enough with this racism crap. |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:29pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] I am not involved in any NIGGERDOM! |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:33pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Do you want total war? Yes we want total war! Do you want fucking war? Yes we want fucking war! November 1939, eastern front line Machine gun fire, defending our pride Four months of hell, thousands of bombs fell Antaa tulla tänne vaan, SUOMI FINLAND PERKELE! PERKELE! WAR - Winter war WAR - Bowe to no one WAR - Winter war WAR - Kill them all Russia beaten up, over 200000 communists dead If they want a new war, this time will kill them all WAR - Winter war WAR - Bowe to no one WAR - Winter war WAR - Kill them all |
| ________________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:38pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] where is the juice box reference in that ! |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:41pm - swamplorddvm ""] Seems someone doesn't want Helvete to prevail. BobNOMAAMRooney nli does NOT speak for HELVETE. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:48pm - SINOFANGELS-RAY ""] Oh I made it a while back or so ago between the I'll get my boys you get your boys, Don't be Racist or i'll beat you up, I'm A commie, your a commie, don't you want to be a commie too...., The nazi party , the jewish defence league, justice league of america.... the juice box comment |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:56pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] swamplorddvm said:Seems someone doesn't want Helvete to prevail. BobNOMAAMRooney nli does NOT speak for HELVETE. I'm just joking around, I've already defended Helvete and I've already clarified that I'm not a Nazi. Now I just want to post a ton of nonsensical shit or something. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 4:58pm - swamplorddvm ""] Ok I am sorry, dude. thank you for defending Helvete. I'm just pissed about this absurd shit. |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 5:06pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] [img][img][img][img] |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 5:07pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] this is now the pWned thread 2.0 |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 5:15pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] [img] |
| __________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 5:15pm - Falcifer ""] anonymous said:Falcifier: "You quoted me and it looks that by your last line its "your side who seem to be inciting the violence". Thanks a lot for the direct threat. It does wonders for your stance" My stance? My stance is fuck nazis and their fence-walking apologists. I also have a stance on violence: I enthusiastically support it. I know alot of people who feel the same way, and they aren't that hard to mobilize. Once again, make a move and see what happens. Falcifer: "We internally are dealing with our "problems". Cool. Sort your problems out and relaunch your metal night, minus the nazi elements, and I got no beef with you. But if you keep running your mouth about "pay back" and it ever materializes, well then there's gonna be some problems at your doorstep asshole. Ok here it is... I have also no beef with you my original post was with someone else, but since you decided to champion his cause fine. A year ago me plus two others decided to try to make a night once a month to listen to music we like with no agenda. Just music. Unbeknownst to me one person went ahead and placed an agenda on Helvete. You would laugh at how unorganized we are in regards to these monthly events. So now we all must pay the price. I had no knowledge of this so don’t call me a fence walker. I see no place for racism at all. Unfortunately it has come to where we are now. Blatant threats of physical harm towards me. Well guess what? My belief is that nothing is worth this. I am too old and just don’t care enough to continue. This is my last post on this matter. The Helvete site and night may continue, but without my involvement. I am disassociating myself of all involvement. So pat yourself on the back because you win you threats, swearing and name-calling worked… Thanks to all who made Helvete a brief pleasure. |
| ________________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 5:33pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] SINOFANGELS-RAY said:Oh I made it a while back or so ago between the I'll get my boys you get your boys, Don't be Racist or i'll beat you up, I'm A commie, your a commie, don't you want to be a commie too...., The nazi party , the jewish defence league, justice league of america.... the juice box comment no no i meant the lyrics that where put up, good show though. :NEWHORNS: |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 5:36pm - fuckshred ""] this idiot is ruining our scene. dictators out of boston! |
| ________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 5:36pm - assuck ""] damn dude... |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 6:14pm - BestialOnslaught ""] alex berkman. said:"I think Jimmynotanonymous, anarchistmetalhead and Dave from NEFAC need a lesson in minding their own business" you know, like a good german. Haha... You've gotta be kidding me. You = never went to Helvete (same with the 3 turds I mentioned above). |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 6:25pm - armageddonday ""] I have so much to say and so little ways to express it correctly. This is a very passionate matter to(for?) me and I'm just going to shut up. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 6:41pm - anonymous ""] Falcifer: "This is my last post on this matter. The Helvete site and night may continue, but without my involvement. I am disassociating myself of all involvement. So pat yourself on the back because you win you threats, swearing and name-calling worked…" Quit being a drama queen. It doesn't sound like anyone had problems with you until you started to starting laying on the thinly veiled threats about pay back. Have your fucking metal night. Drink. Listen to music. Be merry. Do your thing. Just don't play the rest of us for idiots about not knowing what's up with your own event, and don't start dropping threats unless you are willing to back them up. Okay? |
| ________________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 6:51pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] i'm still waiting for juice boxes ! |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 26,2005 7:20pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] anonymous said:Quit being a drama queen. It doesn't sound like anyone had problems with you until you started to starting laying on the thinly veiled threats about pay back. Have your fucking metal night. Drink. Listen to music. Be merry. Do your thing. Just don't play the rest of us for idiots about not knowing what's up with your own event, and don't start dropping threats unless you are willing to back them up. Okay? Falcifier made "thinly veiled threats about pay back" after NEantifa got its panties in a bunch and got Helvete cancelled. NEantifa jumped the gun on the situation and NEantifa is in the wrong. Go on anonymous posters, keep on making empty threats to RTTP posters because your grandparents died in the holocaust or your Newton (A)narchist Crew just got wind of Burzum and decided to make generalizations about all metal. This is what I look like. The next time you see me at a show feel free to walk up to me so we can discuss our differences. If the spirit grabs you, go ahead and punch me in the face for being a fan of Black Metal. I look forward to having you arrested and testifying to put you away for assault. [img] |
| __________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 1:50pm - Cathach ""] Hail to all for your words of support, as of now the only definite is the loss of our comrade Falcifer from HelveteBoston.The person responsible for any NS related music, thought or posting was me and no one else.I take full resposibility for this and and accept the consequences.We will know within the week if we,as an outlet for Black Metal will continue.To address the question of my beliefs would take a few hundred pages and solve nothing.I will say only this; if you know me you have already made up your minds, if you don't I have a clear conscience and have nothing to be ashamed of.Cathach HelveteBoston, Wotan Mit Uns. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 1:56pm - RustedAngel ""] [img] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 4:12pm - the_reverend ""] CNN just had a big thing on panzer faust. I told someone that the guy would be wearing a screwdriver shirt. sure enough, he was. |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 4:21pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] When I play CoD Multiplayer I use panzerfausts to rocket jump. |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 4:21pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] And I always play as the Nazis because I listen to black metal. Duh! |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 6:20pm - voltairine ""] "To address the question of my beliefs would take a few hundred pages and solve nothing." Yeah, you could call it "My Struggle." "And then the communist threat told on me, and the jews who owned the bar cancelled my Black Metal night..." |
| ______________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 6:23pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] voltairine said:"To address the question of my beliefs would take a few hundred pages and solve nothing." Yeah, you could call it "My Struggle." "And then the communist threat told on me, and the jews who owned the bar cancelled my Black Metal night..." OMFG U SHOWED HIM! |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 8:15pm - voltairine ""] Okay let's see. This guy's allegedly really deep, complicated beliefs, which of course aren't at all racist... the dude bragged to other nazis that he follows the Pagan Front creed. What does it say on their website? Let's see (remember, "Vinland" = North America): <I>We at the VINLANDIC PAGAN FRONT are ACTIVISTS within the Heathen National Socialist underground and clandestine movements. We support a radical change to this modern structure by all means available to us, whether legal or not, all our actions are justified according to our laws of nature. We shall NOT tolerate the cowardly attempts to discredit us, tarnish our name, stop our advancement or threaten us with any kind of clear anti-white propaganda. To go against us is not only a proof of treachery to the white race and the cause we fight for, but also very dangerous. We are NOT only about music and concerts, the Vinlandic Pagan Front is a radical overtly anti-ZOG Aryan Advancement organization. We do not fear retaliation, nor do we coward behind laws we do not believe in. Our way is the way of the urban warfare. Our weapons are many, music indeed, propaganda, but that is not all of the arsenal we have available to us in Vinland. " Internet warriors, rehearsal room militants, demo covers nazi poster boys are WE DO NOT NEED!!! Indeed Black Metal is one of our common passion which unite us, BUT THAT IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF OUR EXISTENCE. Black Metal is JUST a music genre, the ideological pillars we use to create this Art, THAT is our true purpose. When Black Metal is dead, our ideology will remain. Our fight will still be raging and our blood will still be pilled for the cause. NOT THE BLACK METAL CAUSE….THE ARYAN CAUSE. This must be understood. Many in the Vinland Division are ready to drop out of the Black Metal movement on a snap of the fingers if need be. That we are all aware of. So if you expect us to be only a musical fan club for nerdy introverted, no-self esteem pathetic kid in search for a “gang” to belong too and appear “radical” to the other kids at school…forget us. We will boot your ass to a pulp and not even think twice about cleaning our sole of your filth afterwards. " The Pagan front : Vinlandic Division not unlike THE ORDER, believe in clandestine action against the powers that be. Those involved understand the price to pay for any actions and are well aware of the resulting possibilities. Not ALL are obliged to what is not within their capabilities, but ALL are required to be ACTIVE at a level or the other. Simply to be a member is not sufficient. Member’s clubs do not change the world, activists do. Some have already sacrificed their freedom and some their lives for the cause and more will come. We are prepared. The Pagan Front: Vinlandic Division is rising and who will dare stand in our way…?<i> There you go people, that's how low Keith has gotten these days. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 8:15pm - Strep_Cunt ""] really too bad....i was looking forward to getting some sort of live setup for a Helvete. Hopefully I will see it soon somewhere else. |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 27,2005 10:45pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] voltairine said:Indeed Black Metal is one of our common passion which unite us, BUT THAT IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF OUR EXISTENCE. Black Metal is JUST a music genre, the ideological pillars we use to create this Art, THAT is our true purpose. When Black Metal is dead, our ideology will remain. Our fight will still be raging and our blood will still be pilled for the cause. NOT THE BLACK METAL CAUSE….THE ARYAN CAUSE. So because Keith holds beliefs that have tenuous connections to the music played at Helvete it's reason enough to get the show cancelled? Everyone cancel every punk show in Boston because I saw some pictures of the Sex Pistols and Siouxie And The Banshees with nazi armbands! Cancel all the post-punk shows in town because Joy Division used a Nazi gimmick when they were starting out and their name is a reference to concentration camp prostitutes. No more shows in Boston because everything could be linked to racist ideology and as non NEantifa musicians and music fans we're not intelligent enough to form our own opinions Painting Helvete as a racist event because of ONE man's beliefs is as foolish as a racist claiming to be tolerant because he "has a black friend" |
| __________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 2:00pm - Cathach ""] Look at the date of the post I made on Panzerfaust that has caused all the schism.Since that time I have severed my ties with the PFfor the simple fact that we do not agree on many issues anymore.This will be my final post on this matter.For the record-yes I am a national socialist No, I am not a rascist nor do I advocate the extermination of a race.This is where many national socialist butt heads.I love my race but this doesn't mean I'm willing to align myself with idiots who blame their shotcomings on 'the niggers' and 'the jews'.Do I hate the Jewish religion-without a doubt, as well as my hatred of Christianity and Islam.I despise religions of slavery and oppression.My involvement with NSBM started because I saw groups playing the music I love addressing views that I shared that didn't wallow in the 'nigger stomping' inanities of most RAC/OI/Hate Rock.Now, as with any scene, there are a plethora of bands who would never have seen the light of day unless they threw a rune on their demo cover and pronounced themselves NSBM.As far as the choice of music by WP/Rac bands played at Helvete we made a very concious effort to feature songs that dealt with aggression against ALL rather than blind race hate.My use of the Hitler speech on one night was done to piss off the assistant manager of our old venue the Paradise.At the time we had established our regular crowd of friends and black metal comrades-all 15 of them-and no one in the room would have thought it was done for any other reason.Concerning my reviews of NSBM in the Weekly Dig, this was not done under a blanket of secrecyand I had lnog discussions with both the editor and music editor before a single review ran.It was done to promote bands I enjoyed and also to spark debate.But of the three letters written concerning these reviews none took a negative slant.I was suspended for missing a very important deadline, not for my beliefs.In conclusion I would like to reiterate my heartfelt thanks to all of you who have lent their voices in Helvete's defenseand I respectfully ask that those who still have issues with MY beliefs, actions or politics to leave my brothers Chris and Opie out of it. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 3:36pm - swamplorddvm ""] Done and done. Well put. |
| _____________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 9:24pm - voltairine ""] "As far as the choice of music by WP/Rac bands played at Helvete we made a very concious effort to feature songs that dealt with aggression against ALL rather than blind race hate." "Dreadlocked bastard, gangster rapper Raping white women is all that he's after You've fooled the rest, but I know what you're about You're threats will fall silent when you're the body count" -from Bound for Glory, "ONE SHOT ONE KILL" "The streets are still, the final battle has ended Flushed with the fight, we proudly hail the dawn See over the streets, the white man's emblem is waving Triumphant standards of a race reborn" -from Skrewdriver, "HAIL THE NEW DAWN" Geez, sounds to me like anti-miscegenation lynching, and a "final battle" for White supremacy. But I guess you're deep and philosophical enough to see past all that, so everyone should just take you for your word. ya fuckin nazi. |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 9:32pm - anonymous ""] voltairine said:"As far as the choice of music by WP/Rac bands played at Helvete we made a very concious effort to feature songs that dealt with aggression against ALL rather than blind race hate." "Dreadlocked bastard, gangster rapper Raping white women is all that he's after You've fooled the rest, but I know what you're about You're threats will fall silent when you're the body count" -from Bound for Glory, "ONE SHOT ONE KILL" "The streets are still, the final battle has ended Flushed with the fight, we proudly hail the dawn See over the streets, the white man's emblem is waving Triumphant standards of a race reborn" -from Skrewdriver, "HAIL THE NEW DAWN" Geez, sounds to me like anti-miscegenation lynching, and a "final battle" for White supremacy. But I guess you're deep and philosophical enough to see past all that, so everyone should just take you for your word. ya fuckin nazi. Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. The U.S. Constitution, protecting Americans from the world's babysitters since 1787 |
| __________________________________ [Jan 28,2005 9:59pm - CNV nli ""] voltairine said:"As far as the choice of music by WP/Rac bands played at Helvete we made a very concious effort to feature songs that dealt with aggression against ALL rather than blind race hate." "Dreadlocked bastard, gangster rapper Raping white women is all that he's after You've fooled the rest, but I know what you're about You're threats will fall silent when you're the body count" -from Bound for Glory, "ONE SHOT ONE KILL" "The streets are still, the final battle has ended Flushed with the fight, we proudly hail the dawn See over the streets, the white man's emblem is waving Triumphant standards of a race reborn" -from Skrewdriver, "HAIL THE NEW DAWN" G |
| ____________________________________ [Jan 29,2005 2:43am - BornSoVile ""] Skrewdriver is awesome. |
| _________________________________ [Jan 29,2005 8:21am - korpse ""] FREE MY LAND!!! |