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Until The Light Takes Us comes to the Coolidge Corner Theatre! plus special deal!

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[Feb 16,2010 9:36am - Alexecutioner ""]
i saw this last night, it wasnt bad, but much like pooooop said (really thats your log in? haha) it wasnt anything new, they didnt "uncover" any ground breaking discoveries like varg being gay and having a mistress named Gaahl. but what i did like about the movie was watching some of the interviews, gives a little different perspective on something we've all already heard about

most interesting and entertaining tho was watching Frost cut open his neck and arms in front of a shit load of people after spitting fire all over the walls surrounding him and stabbing the shit out of someone's couch. as he is in the middle of splitting open his arm, you can see a bunch of people in the background start running out of the room in disgust/fear, that was fucking awesome haha, definitely good for a laugh
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[Feb 16,2010 10:22am - quintessence ""]
I thought there was another midnight showing on Sunday cause I'm dumb. Wasted a trip. OH well it doesn't sound that great anyways.
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[Feb 16,2010 10:42am - goatcatalyst ""]

Conservationist said:I think it's designed for NON-METALHEADS as well as preaching to the faithful.

Wish I could have handed a copy of this to friends, family and professors back in the day.



I dunno man. I'm of the opinion that black metal ISN'T for everybody nor should it be and I kind of object to the whole justification/explanation of it to people who haven't come to it on their own terms.

Beyond the music (first three records I got were "In the Nightside Eclipse", "Aspera Hiems Symfonia" and "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss"), the sheer wrongness of it is what attracted me, having read that article in Spin. It was more extreme, more dangeous and more threatening than the death metal I was listening to. The Norwegians didn't just talk about shit - they did shit and it made Glen Benton's hick faggot minstrel show pale by comparison. Any "decent" person with a functioning moral compass would have been repulsed by black metal as it was at that time.

... And now it's being pandered and justified to art fags and people who have no business having black metal demystified (yes, I know it's been demystified, homogenized, spayed and neutered over the years - but at least you'd have to get your hands dirty to a degree to find out more) and handed to them on a silver plate - or screen, as it were.

Black metal needs a pogrom and it scares the shit out of me / bums me out to think that someone like Beelze could be one of the participants.
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[Feb 16,2010 11:03am - xmikex ""]
RE: This film is trying to explain something to people outside the culture that couldn't possibly understand it.

RE: This film didn't tell me anything new.

Now you know what it's like for me every time a cool nu straightedge doc comes out, and some dipshit filmmaker re-animates Ian McKaye's corpse to talk about the same shit.

At least Until the Light Take Us was actually good.
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[Feb 16,2010 11:19am - goatcatalyst ""]
Your pain is real, Mike. Perpetual douche chillz.
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[Feb 16,2010 11:29am - Conservationist ""]

goatcatalyst said:I dunno man. I'm of the opinion that black metal ISN'T for everybody nor should it be and I kind of object to the whole justification/explanation of it to people who haven't come to it on their own terms.

Beyond the music (first three records I got were "In the Nightside Eclipse", "Aspera Hiems Symfonia" and "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss"), the sheer wrongness of it is what attracted me, having read that article in Spin. It was more extreme, more dangeous and more threatening than the death metal I was listening to. The Norwegians didn't just talk about shit - they did shit and it made Glen Benton's hick faggot minstrel show pale by comparison. Any "decent" person with a functioning moral compass would have been repulsed by black metal as it was at that time.

... And now it's being pandered and justified to art fags and people who have no business having black metal demystified (yes, I know it's been demystified, homogenized, spayed and neutered over the years - but at least you'd have to get your hands dirty to a degree to find out more) and handed to them on a silver plate - or screen, as it were.

Black metal needs a pogrom and it scares the shit out of me / bums me out to think that someone like Beelze could be one of the participants.



Well, here's my experience:

You can hit insincere people across the face with the truth, and they'll ignore it. Hell, WE DID in the past. They're going to use it to their own ends. This is why hipsters infest EVERY genre eventually. They simply don't care about truth at all.

But, one thing that does keep them at bay is having an idea that the genre has a consensus -- which they all do, if you think about it, or they never would have formed genres in the first place. VALUES and DECISIONS drive back the hipster. They like to live in that spacy place where every genre is about nothing, so THEY can inject their neurotic bullshit into it. They like to have open minds that never make decisions. Their values system is non-values. Their consensus is non-consensus. And so on...

So I think this movie is, if anything, a stab in their hearts. Agreed also with Mike's comment.
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[Feb 16,2010 11:42am - arktouros ""]

goatcatalyst said:I'm of the opinion that black metal ISN'T for everybody nor should it be and I kind of object to the whole justification/explanation of it to people who haven't come to it on their own terms.


I agree with this. The way I see it is that this is an art film about a genre of music - it's something that interested parties should know about. But the film shouldn't act as a primer for somebody that wants to listen to BM. It's something that should be discovered and individually interpreted. It shouldn't be exclusive, but it isn't some country club either. The thing is the originators were on to something with the sound. Now anybody can steal the methods and use them for anything. As homo as this sounds we all remember what flipped the black metal switch in our heads - my grandfather used to say "it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing" and well now if bm doesn't have the mystic, anti-religious, pure individualistic sentiment then we can damn well tell the difference. Black Metal Is Devil Worship, and there will always be people who don't fully understand this, which is why I'm not jumping at showing the film to family and coworkers and so on.

At least this is a film that doesn't foster the superficial motivations for listening to black metal. They barely used any black metal for the soundtrack, because it's not forcing the music down anyone's throat. It's not there to suck metalhead cock. Also, they avoid any scholarly interpretation ("black metal is so euro romantic!") and just let the musicians, the environment, and the events talk.
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[Feb 16,2010 11:45am - arktouros ""]
convervo and mike just nailed it.
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[Feb 17,2010 1:57pm - Conservationist ""]
Until The Light Takes Us (Massachusetts chapter) Last two days to see the film in Boston. Today. And tomorrow. Don't miss it!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Until-The-Li...husetts-chapter/302403005203?ref=nf

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