Having a good day? Not anymore.[views:5326][posts:58]______________________________ [May 7,2010 5:43pm - sigh ""] NORML has a good little write up on this with a link to a poll by the local paper that asks if you think the actions SWAT took were justified. http://blog.norml.org/2010/05/06/missouri-...aid-over-small-amount-of-marijuana/ my favorite line from the cops explanation: "The pit bull acted aggressively toward a SWAT member again as they pushed into the home, which resulted in the animal being shot, he said. After being shot, it moved to attack a SWAT member, which is when the dog was killed." Obviously a dog is going to get aggressive when it hears loud noises and sees strange people rushing into its home in the middle of the night. It thinks it needs to defend itself and its family. Had they actually waited for the people to wake up and answer the door instead of smashing it in after two quick knocks things would have been much different. These people come off as sounding so dumb and oblivious of any wrong doing its fucking frightening. |
| __________________________________ [May 7,2010 5:47pm - arktouros ""] sigh said:These people come off as sounding so dumb and oblivious of any wrong doing its fucking frightening. |
| ___________________________________ [May 7,2010 6:00pm - arilliusbm ""] Legalize it. Tax it. Smoke it. That's the only way we can prevent future dog deaths. |
| ______________________________ [May 7,2010 6:21pm - sigh ""] Not going to happen with this administration and our current Secretary of State saying we need more troops on the border to stem the violence from the drug cartels. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62M48S20100323 "These narcotics cartels are waging war on civil society," Clinton told a news conference, pledging that the joint U.S.-Mexican response would not be bound by "borders or bureaucratic divisions." There's that police state you were talking about again. And if this civil society she speaks of is the same in which cops burst into houses shooting pets than I would rather live uncivilized. |
| ________________________________________ [May 8,2010 2:15pm - ValkyrieScreams ""] We DO need the troops on the border, and we definitely need them to be pretty hardcore! The people who are working on things from that side need to be fearless and very aggressive to even match their opponent. People are being beheaded, dismembered, throwninto mass graves and at best, being tortured and held for ransom. The cartels are doing things in real life that sound like death metal song titles. Still, there's a huge difference between fighting the traffic on the border and breaking down a family's door in the middle of the night for a little weed. Our government definitely needs to keep its guard up against the Mexican drug cartels which, today, are as ruthless as the Colombian cartels were 20-30 years ago. http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/05/02/mexico.drug.violence/index.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/09/m...can-drug-violence-spi_n_165422.html I support legalizing (or at least decriminalizing) weed, and legalizing it might reduce drug crime, but its not a total solution. There are too many other illegal substances out there being abused by people worldwide. Mexico has been pumping methamphetamine (for example) across the border like crazy lately. And I don't know what you know about meth, but its a really fucked up drug with far reaching consequences. Just living in a house that was previously used as a meth lab can kill you. Anyway, point is that I don't think the Secretary of State / DEA are creating a police state by trying harder to protect the borders. I think its necessary. Still, the issue that this thread started as, barely qualifies as part of the "war on drugs"... its just another example of cops being huge douchebags. Ooookay. Guess that was my rant for the day. |
| __________________________________ [May 8,2010 5:05pm - arktouros ""] Yeah, to get rid of the cartels you'd have to legalize all drugs or nothing, and meth just shouldn't be legal. The new AZ immigration laws, leaving out the civil rights issues, aren't even close to a solution either. |
| ______________________________ [May 8,2010 7:47pm - sigh ""] Adding more troops to the border is only going to create more potential beheaded bodies. It won't have the positive effect they seem to think it will. Just legalizing only weed won't solve the problem entirely, but it would be a huge blow to the cartels financially. Of course they will still have other income sources but it is a bigger bang for our buck than adding more troops in the line of fire. The whole drug war thing is just stupid. Meth is scary shit that should not exist, but it does. But I have to wonder would we be better off producing and regulating it ourselves for the purpose of rehabilitating current addicts or continue letting mexico flood the market. At least if we produce it on our own it could be made in a more pure/safer form (as far as meth goes). Think the nicotine patch but for meth heads. |
| ______________________________ [May 8,2010 7:55pm - sigh ""] ValkyrieScreams said:Anyway, point is that I don't think the Secretary of State / DEA are creating a police state by trying harder to protect the borders. I was only mentioning the police state based on her choice of words "will not be bound by borders", which I may interpret as the same tactics they will use abroad for the drug war will also be employed at home. Which based on this video of these cops being dildos has already been happening for some time now anyway. The video does relate to the drug war since the policies that have been put in place gave the police the authority to perform this bullshit raid. |
| _________________________________ [May 8,2010 10:50pm - Doomkid ""] arkquimanthorn said:in the 60's, 20's, even back to Shays' Rebellions and govt MILITIAS... it's always a 'police state' +50 points for making a useful reference to Shays' Rebellion. |