We finally have tunes up on myspace![views:12275][posts:64]___________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 4:58am - karnivean ""] just uploaded 4 rough songs yet to be mastered. Let us know your honest opinion. www.myspace.com/karnivean |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 4:55pm - karnivean ""] well i guess no opinion is better than a shitty one |
| _________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 6:11pm - Martins ""] Sounds really sloppy. All around. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 6:25pm - the_reverend ""] im glad you made the subject line good enough so that people know what band this is about. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 6:31pm - corpus_colostomy ""] karnivean said:Let us know your honest opinion. not good. not at all. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 11:55pm - karnivean ""] well now that where all friends and in the honest opinion circle, corpus: our music might not be your style i see you played in dysentery wich is an amazing brutal band, but our music is deff. good like i said maybe not your style but you cant down grade good shit when you hear it. ARCHEAON: you guys are very technical and brutal i love your shit, especially for a bunch of 20 year olds that only got some a little known because you swallow composted's nut. but your singer blows sorry. its true he's sick at what he does i'll give that but not diverse enough for the rest of your band. and when you guys have a drummer cant wait to maybe some day play shows. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 11:57pm - W3 nli ""] IN B4 STEVE SAYS IN B4 EPIC THREAD. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 12:14am - dertoxia ""] ..reverse criticism, hmmmmm |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 12:18am - karnivean ""] no criticism i seriously like archeaon music.... where in the "honest opinion circle" |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:18am - everyone ""] Pretty crappy, you guys shoulda practiced before you recorded. |
| ________________________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:21am - can't believe it's not butter ""] all honesty.me no likey.the vocals are weak with lousy structure,drums are really loose.I listen to alot of dif' style of metal but you just are not grabbing me.almost like you are trying to hard and failling miserably.don't get me wrong the guitar work is okay but everything else is an epic fail.I can't hear the bass to well so I'll leave that alone.drums are key in a band imo and that is the biggest lacking followed close by vocals.guitar is okay and like i said bass I cant tell....... now for the BS... wow you guys are incredible,I can't beleive you are not sighned to a major.the drums are just crushing.wow those vocals just cave in your chest for days. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:32am - Blender_Method ""] karnivean said:well now that where all friends and in the honest opinion circle, corpus: our music might not be your style i see you played in dysentery wich is an amazing brutal band, but our music is deff. good like i said maybe not your style but you cant down grade good shit when you hear it. ARCHEAON: you guys are very technical and brutal i love your shit, especially for a bunch of 20 year olds that only got some a little known because you swallow composted's nut. but your singer blows sorry. its true he's sick at what he does i'll give that but not diverse enough for the rest of your band. and when you guys have a drummer cant wait to maybe some day play shows. Hey now, why don't you do your research. Archaeon are not 20 year olds, they're younger than that, and way better than Karnivean. And as for swallowing Composted's nut... I, being a member of composted prefer to think of them as close friends, and I think I speak for the rest of composted when I see that. Not to mention, what does their age and friendship with a band have to do with your recording? And speaking of your recording... Remember when you guys (Josh) said you were down to record with me a few months back? Remember how you guys just blew me off and didn't even send a message saying, "sorry we found someone else?" I'll take this "recording criticism" a step further and say that you guys are the least professional people I've been involved with to date. And one last note, why ask for honest criticism if you can't take it and when it comes? If you don't like it, shut up and carry on. Don't have an attitude and talk macho to people who gave you what you specifically asked for. :l |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:43am - the_reverend ""] I heard archaeon landed on a cock. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:47am - Blender_Method ""] the_reverend said:I heard archaeon landed on a cock. lolz |
| ________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 6:26am - G nli ""] the_reverend said:I heard archaeon landed on a cock. the man or the band? thats a big cock if the whole band landed on it. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 7:14am - corpus_colostomy ""] i watched the video. i listened to the tunes. you guys claim your 'guttural slam death'---im not hearing any of that. you asked for peoples opinions. people gave their opinions and you answer back with justifications...thats just straight 'young man status-' but then again so are both of the anarchy 'A's in your logo. my advice: keep it in the garage boys until you have something more refined and can handle legit opinions about your product. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 12,2009 8:16am - joe1 ""] Vocals remind me of sexcrement and white chapel. guitars are good- i like the lead work but need to be louder. drummer needs to work on the blasts. all around not bad band but nothing special |
| _________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 8:49am - Martins ""] Blender_Method said: Hey now, why don't you do your research. Archaeon are not 20 year olds, they're younger than that, and way better than Karnivean. And as for swallowing Composted's nut... I, being a member of composted prefer to think of them as close friends, and I think I speak for the rest of composted when I see that. Not to mention, what does their age and friendship with a band have to do with your recording? <3333333 :bow: |
| _________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 9:05am - C.dEaD ""] corpus_colostomy said:...thats just straight 'young man status-' but then again so are both of the anarchy 'A's in your logo. Haha, I noticed that. Huge lolz. As far as your music goes, I didn't listen to it. I can only imagine how not so good it is if it makes you feel any better. Whatever though, if you like it, do what makes YOU happy and don't worry about what idiots like all of us have to say. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 9:26am - the_reverend ""] idk what people are up in arms about... it reminds me of some of the earlier life-at-zero stuff. |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 10:36am - MarkFuckingRichards ""] As everyone else has said, you asked for honest opinions, so you should be prepared to receive them no matter how shitty they may be. It's easy to get worked up over anything negative that someone has to say about your band or whatever you're passionate about, but the truth is, harsh criticism is what anyone needs in order to improve, if improvement is necessary (9 times out of 10 it is, or at least will never hurt, no matter how good you think you are or how good anyone else thinks you are). That being said, the majority of the material is indeed sloppy in recording (since this is just a demo, I assume, this doesn't matter as much as musical aspects), composition and execution. There are some good riffs here and there and some of the lead work sounds like it would stand alone well, but they don't really fit in the songs for the most part. The songs in general are lacking essential aspects to hold the structure together proficiently (think about creative ways to accent, transition and structure the songs to achieve a good flow). Some of the drum work is a bit inconsistent as well, mainly blasts, which are more or less essential to this style of music. Before the next recording, practice your asses off to become as tight as possible, not only individually but as a band, and I'm sure there will be massive improvement. The best things bands can do for themselves are to be their own worst critics and also take into consideration criticism that anyone else has. Obviously if someone is knocking the style, those comments can be voided. As far as all other criticism goes, you can either take it or leave it, but don't get pissy and start sidetracking into calling people out on issues that have nothing at all to do with what you asked for. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 10:41am - ouchdrummer ""] you guys kinda suck. But keep trying! |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 11:56am - corpus_colostomy ""] MarkFuckingRichards said:As everyone else has said, you asked for honest opinions, so you should be prepared to receive them no matter how shitty they may be. It's easy to get worked up over anything negative that someone has to say about your band or whatever you're passionate about, but the truth is, harsh criticism is what anyone needs in order to improve, if improvement is necessary (9 times out of 10 it is, or at least will never hurt, no matter how good you think you are or how good anyone else thinks you are). That being said, the majority of the material is indeed sloppy in recording (since this is just a demo, I assume, this doesn't matter as much as musical aspects), composition and execution. There are some good riffs here and there and some of the lead work sounds like it would stand alone well, but they don't really fit in the songs for the most part. The songs in general are lacking essential aspects to hold the structure together proficiently (think about creative ways to accent, transition and structure the songs to achieve a good flow). Some of the drum work is a bit inconsistent as well, mainly blasts, which are more or less essential to this style of music. Before the next recording, practice your asses off to become as tight as possible, not only individually but as a band, and I'm sure there will be massive improvement. The best things bands can do for themselves are to be their own worst critics and also take into consideration criticism that anyone else has. Obviously if someone is knocking the style, those comments can be voided. As far as all other criticism goes, you can either take it or leave it, but don't get pissy and start sidetracking into calling people out on issues that have nothing at all to do with what you asked for. MARK FUCKING RICHARDS IS NOW THE TONY ROBBINS OF DEATH METUHL. |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 12:14pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] The only thing I'm missing is his banana hands. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 12:39pm - dreadkill ""] FIGHT HELL WITHIN OR YOU'RE A PUSSY |
| __________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 12:52pm - Martins ""] lol We've never played a show with Composted. One time Grant booked TYAG and we played on that show. I guess we suck composted nuts. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:07pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Composted Lite played that show you nutsucker. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:08pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Oh yeah, and we played a garage show with you mothafucka. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:09pm - joeyumbrella ""] lol @ EVERAYTHING!! |
| _________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:16pm - Martins ""] MarkFuckingRichards said:Oh yeah, and we played a garage show with you mothafucka. ya but i didn't really count because we (besides Grant) didn't know any of you and we surely weren't sucking your dicks yet. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:30pm - brian_dc ""] this should be filed away as a prime example of how not to respond to negative criticism. If it's not constructive. Don't even acknowledge it. If it's constructive, yet not positive, take it into consideration. Disagree without attacking someone else. Listen to your recording honestly. Compare it to other bands. Do you really think you're as tight as you should have been before recording? I don't particularly care for slammy brutal death metal (unless it's hilarious), so I'm not going to get into songwriting. But execution is a constant. I think it sounds sloppy as well. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:38pm - Dave_Maggot ""] i play with archeaoan every night. . .in my bedroom. SWALLOW MY NUT OR YOU GET THE HOSE AGAIN!!! |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 2:12pm - swamplorddvm ""] I was expecting something really shitty. I guess it's not very original but what would I know? I'm not the tr00ist DeathMetaler here. I'm sure if you guys were around in the early days of such Metal everyone would be all "whoaa you guys are brutal pioneers" or someshit. Musical cultures can be picky when it comes to this shit. When I've asked foh "honest" opinions on my music I've gotten good reviews with afew honest suggestions. But they were all friends. So I guess RTTP is a good place for honest and abnoxious opinions. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 2:21pm - darkwor ""] brian_dc said:Listen to your recording honestly. Compare it to other bands. Do you really think you're as tight as you should have been before recording? This would sum up my advice. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 12,2009 3:29pm - Yeti ""] that's very true, but how many people actually view themselves and what they do objectively? i'd say 1 out of every 1000 people i meet actually would be able to critique themselves accurately. the rest are so bloated with themselves they think they shit gold. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 3:33pm - W3 nli ""] i wouldnt be poor if i shit gold, it would rule so much. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 3:34pm - brian_dc ""] gold is super valuable these days |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 3:35pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] Are you saying that you want to give me money for my poop? |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 3:50pm - largefreakatzero ""] Are Karnivean CDs NOT included in the Century Media grab bag? |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 4:22pm - lebowski ""] [img] |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 4:23pm - the_reverend ""] the japanese shit gold. true story. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 4:25pm - The_Rooster ""] My honest opinion.... 1. Your drummer plays beyond his abilities. Having him simplify things would probably go a long way in tightening things up. 2. Ditch the shredding solos. They're cliche. 3. Work on your downbeats. Probably the most important beat, and you all need to be together on them. Many instances where you are not. 4. Tighten the transitions! The transitions from part to part are extremely sloppy (added beats, missed beats, etc.). That shit needs to be tighter than a nuns vagina. Again, having the drummer simplify things would probably help. 5. Really listen to the recording, and figure out what needs to be better, and work at it. That said, there is some heavy shit in there. Nothing ground breaking, but I don't think you're trying to be ground breaking, so I'm assuming you're cool with that. I like the way the guitars sound. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 4:25pm - narkybark ""] except they called it gord |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 4:26pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] LOL @ critiquing your critique of the requested criticism. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 4:38pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICAL HIT - ROLL FOR DOUBLE WAAAAAAAHMAGE |
| __________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 4:43pm - ddrummer ""] ouch, just ouch |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 5:25pm - Bob Barker ""] its better than i thought it would be after reading through the thread. i swear somebody is snoring in 'trisomy' lolz!!!!!! oh god, then those laughs after the snoring are real gay. but yeah, i think this could be a decent band after things are tightened up! |
| _________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 5:37pm - Doomkid ""] the_reverend said:the japanese shit gold. true story. But they only shit 1 pound of gold for ever 1 ton of poop, thats not very efficient alchemy. Still, I wonder if its because they're eating wedding rings or their computers... |
| __________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 5:50pm - archaeon ""] karnivean said:ARCHEAON: you guys are very technical and brutal i love your shit, especially for a bunch of 20 year olds that only got some a little known because you swallow composted's nut. but your singer blows sorry. its true he's sick at what he does i'll give that but not diverse enough for the rest of your band. and when you guys have a drummer cant wait to maybe some day play shows. lol just saw this thread. regarding the vocals on the archaeon recording, I probably hate them more than anyone. But I don't see how he's not diverse, he has a variety of different styles that i feel he executes pretty well. plus he can do predator vocals nao. Also, I was 15/16 and Martins was 17/18 when all the material from the EP was written. DO EYE GET SCENE POINTS? haha and our connection to composted has next to nothing to with any "success" we've had. We shared a practice space with them when eliot was in the band and became good friends. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 5:55pm - RichHorror ""] Trading in-jokes on a message board that hit its peak half a decade ago = musical success |