Obama-care communist plot upheld by the supreme court[views:6223][posts:68]___________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 12:43pm - Really? ""] Because you can live a healthy life and still come across situations that may require medical attention despite that. But hey maybe you're the luckiest guy on earth or can battle any medical emergency possible on your own. In which case, kudos to you. But most people are not like that. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 12:51pm - yummy ""] Nope, I'm not the luckiest guy on earth. I also put myself in situations where I'm at risk. I appreciate your consideration stranger. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 12:52pm - Really? ""] I could care less about your personal safety. I was merely participating in the conversation. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 12:53pm - Burnsy ""] I would think that if something's validity was transparent, that would reflect positively on the argument presented. As for living healthy, that's great but Really?'s point is well taken. You can't anticipate every possible medical emergency. I think you'd be eating your words if you found out tomorrow that you have testicular cancer and no insurance to pay for the treatment. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 12:55pm - yummy ""] well thank you Mitt |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 12:57pm - arktouros ""] who cares about hypothetical situations. healthcare shouldn't be an ivory tower that few can access, but it is. if you think healthcare in this country or the practices of insurance companies is OK then you've never dealt with it first hand or see somebody approved for a live-saving medication when your family member is not, when the only difference was the will of the insurance company, after they suck $50,000 over a lifetime and then decide to drop coverage. our taxes can be used for anything and everything that has nothing to do with american citizens, but as soon as some of it gets allocated towards HHS and nothing more is taken out of pocket then it becomes a big deal. it's NOT A GOOD LAW. but it's a START and it's all that our corruptigovt can pass through it's system and shit out. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 12:59pm - Burnsy ""] yummy said:well thank you Mitt uhhhhh, what? |
| ______________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:00pm - Yeti ""] i think you should have to take a blood test that can detect whether or not you've lived your life as a slovenly pig. a child with bone cancer? no questions asked. a fat disgusting whore who got fat from McDonalds and AIDS? see you on the other side. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:05pm - Burnsy ""] That sounds reasonable. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:08pm - Yeti ""] i really think we are far beyond any point of return. there are just too many people living grossly unhealthy lifestyles while expecting the government to cover their hypochondria. cross your fingers and hope for that extinction event....3 million years overdue.... |
| ________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:11pm - Burnsy ""] 100% backed. Regardless of lifestyle though, there are just far too many people! |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:20pm - eyeroller ""] Just for fun: http://youtu.be/FrY-KSc-5Lo It's all about misdirection. This has very little to do with healthcare, and quite a lot to do with the executive branch being able to circumvent the system of checks and balances. We typically get taxed on things we do (buy gas, use roads, own a home). As of yesterday, the Supreme Court stated that the govt can't force you to buy (whatever it is they want you to buy), but can tax you for NOT doing what they want you to do. The real question is, what's next? We're all busy chattering about illegals / healthcare / finances and such, which is the misdirection. Too busy looking at the birdie to expect the flash. But that's ok, keep pretending it's about shirt size and not government size. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:23pm - posbleak ""] A lot of grossly unhealthy vice-type shit is already taxed, though. If we could take the cigarette tax and apply it to a single-payer health care system then I think it would be a lot more effective than what they're currently paying for (those useless anti-smoking ads). The people at my office who are complaining about "wah wah the unhealthy people will make MY stuff cost more" are also the obese ones who bitched about the soda restrictions in NY, LOL Offering free/discounted preventative care is the biggest part of making a dent in these big expensive illnesses, though. If you have an infection and you're insured, you can go to the doctor and go get your cheap little antibiotic. If you have an infection and you can't get to the doctor, letting it spread will just land you a very expensive trip to the ER for septicemia, etc. I'd rather suck up the cost of that pill than the cost of emergency inpatient care and possible surgery. |
| ______________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:30pm - Yeti ""] eyeroller said:Just for fun: http://youtu.be/FrY-KSc-5Lo It's all about misdirection. This has very little to do with healthcare, and quite a lot to do with the executive branch being able to circumvent the system of checks and balances. We typically get taxed on things we do (buy gas, use roads, own a home). As of yesterday, the Supreme Court stated that the govt can't force you to buy (whatever it is they want you to buy), but can tax you for NOT doing what they want you to do. The real question is, what's next? We're all busy chattering about illegals / healthcare / finances and such, which is the misdirection. Too busy looking at the birdie to expect the flash. But that's ok, keep pretending it's about shirt size and not government size. this is exactly why i have no hope. there is no going back. there is no magical turning point. we are done. there is no savior, no "revolution" that is going to change anything. our path is one that only leads to destruction, and that is the only way any new path will emerge. it is only a matter of time before it all comes crashing down. the collapse of the USSR is where we should be focused. we. are. finished. |
| _______________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:33pm - yummy ""] Burnsy said: yummy said:well thank you Mitt uhhhhh, what? I drew a drastic contrast to Romney ie,I could care less about your personal safety. I was merely participating in the conversation. meant to be funny, sorry. I was merely contributing to the conversation as well. At the beginning of this I expressed how this was a step in the right direction. I think you'd be eating your words if you found out tomorrow that you have testicular cancer and no insurance to pay for the treatment. ^^^ Obviously dude. Having healthcare doesnt change what's in the air, water, and food. Maybe looking into the causes would be more beneficial than government run healthcare. I think what makes this a hot button issue is that there's different ways of having the discussion. |
| ________________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:36pm - Burnsy ""] Oh I thought you were calling me "Mitt." |
| _______________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:36pm - yummy ""] nope |
| ______________________________ [Jun 29,2012 1:37pm - Yeti ""] LONG LIVE MITTSY |