FRIDAY MARCH 11TH: Locked in a Vacancy, Pillory, The Nicaea Room, Within The Fray, Cipher[views:11891][posts:73]________________________________________ [Mar 3,2005 10:01pm - JonahBloodbath ""] Last minute metal awesome-ness: FRIDAY March 11th Pillory (tech/grind, drummer from goratory) Locked in a Vacancy (the best thing since Iron Maiden put out "somewhere in time") Cipher (on tour with LIAV) Within The Fray (This band kind of sounds like Converge and has sick mosh parts) The Nicaea Room (grind from lowell) @The BCCA, 14 Green St Brookline, MA 7:30 - $5 www.tdbrecords.com |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 3,2005 10:51pm - intricateprocess ""] awesome line up |
| ________________________________________________ [Mar 3,2005 11:05pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] Cipher are some good guys , they picked me up when i hitched hiked to Hellfest back in 01. |
| _____________________________ [Mar 4,2005 2:16am - cdan ""] bump |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 4,2005 2:43am - the_reverend ""] I'm sorry.. I would go to this, but Im going to internal suffering... give my regards to the guys from LiaV! |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 4,2005 9:22am - anonymous ""] bump |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 4,2005 10:08am - thegreatspaldino ""] i must see Cipher... even if i dont really enjoy their newer stuff a whole lot. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 4,2005 11:00am - JonahBloodbath ""] will do rev! |
| _______________________________ [Mar 4,2005 1:16pm - moe_rk ""] HAHAHAHA, my cousin/best friend plays bass in Cipher...not joking..i'll be there |
| ________________________________ [Mar 4,2005 2:14pm - Soloman ""] here's the flyer. [img] This show will be fun. Short notice? Sure... but come out anyway ya nerds. Guaranteed to be a sick time with great bands \m/ |
| ________________________________ [Mar 4,2005 2:58pm - Soloman ""] this show is ALL AGES. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 5,2005 2:10am - JonahBloodbath ""] awesome flyer! |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 5,2005 2:11am - JonahBloodbath ""] if you plan to print some out do you think you could do me a favor and throw my web site on it? www.tdbrecords.com thanks! |
| _____________________________ [Mar 5,2005 2:27am - blue ""] ill have to say that ill more than likely be there with moe, to watch mark tear shit up with CIPHAH. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 5,2005 11:31am - JonahBloodbath ""] awesome blue! |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 5,2005 12:43pm - theyuppiegrinder ""] huh...we're playing with liav and cipher on the 12th....bring the nicaea room up to vermont again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 5,2005 3:00pm - adam_time ""] we should all order like 10 pizzas and have a pizza box mosh at the end of the night. yea i'm retarded. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 12:59pm - jonah ""] GO BACK TO THE MALL JESUS |
| ______________________________ [Mar 6,2005 2:14pm - TYAG ""] sweet |
| __________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 2:53pm - adam_time ""] i should. i need to buy a new "everyone is gay" shirt. no but seriously i'm going to make an "everyone is gay" shirt just for this show. because i can. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 4:15pm - JonahBloodbath ""] what does that mean? Im not really into throwing "gay" around, in most cases its pretty lame.. |
| _______________________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 4:20pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] leave gay alone, it used to be such a clean and wholesome word till people like you came along and started calling it lame. |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 7:01pm - attendmyrequiem nli ""] i'll be there, but late because of work. which means i miss pillory... lame. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 7:21pm - it's streets, kahd ""] dude, hes wearing the shirt to say fuck you to the assclowns that consider us mallcore, thats the dumbest shit i've ever heard. hes not bashing gays at all. |
| _____________________________ [Mar 6,2005 7:39pm - blue ""] dont be an ass, hes booking you on his show. the mallcore thing is pretty dead, by the way. get over it. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 6,2005 8:32pm - Anthony nli ""] I think I'll make it down to this and hopefully bring my lady friend. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 12:33am - JonahBloodbath ""] "hes not bashing gays at all." I wasn't sure what he meant by "everyone is gay", thats all. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 12:34am - JonahBloodbath ""] also, pillory is going on last |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 9:20am - its streets, kahd ""] im not being an ass, just because everyone gives everyone else shit on this website doesnt mean im being an ass. jonah is the man, i was just clearing up what adam got himself into. believe me, the last thing i want is more people talking shit. but this show should be a blast, if you've never seen the nicaea room, make it down, theyre awesome on stage and theyre great guys. im excited to play with all the other bands too. once again jonah won't let us down. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 10:23am - Soloman ""] You can download printable flyers at this link. http://pillorygrind.com/flyer_march11.htm This show will be a blast. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 7,2005 11:02am - blue ""] yes it will. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 11:32am - JonahBloodbath ""] I seriously am so nevous booking metal shows just because of all the shit heads on this message board. Its hard to know who is racist/sexist/homophobic. I know one of these days Im gonna book the wrong band and hear "ARIGHT FAGGOTS KILL EACH OTHER" at a show I put on. This shit is so much more difficult when you actually care about the bands you promote.. haha |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 11:32am - JonahBloodbath ""] ANYWAY, FUCKING METAL |
| ______________________________ [Mar 7,2005 11:37am - blue ""] JonahBloodbath said:I seriously am so nevous booking metal shows just because of all the shit heads on this message board. Its hard to know who is racist/sexist/homophobic. I know one of these days Im gonna book the wrong band and hear "ARIGHT FAGGOTS KILL EACH OTHER" at a show I put on. This shit is so much more difficult when you actually care about the bands you promote.. haha if i ever heard that at a show i booked, i would promptly vomit in the corner. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 2:01pm - anonymous ""] bumpity bump-bump, woot! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 6:40pm - ArrowHead ""] JonahBloodbath said:I seriously am so nevous booking metal shows just because of all the shit heads on this message board. Its hard to know who is racist/sexist/homophobic. I know one of these days Im gonna book the wrong band and hear "ARIGHT FAGGOTS KILL EACH OTHER" at a show I put on. This shit is so much more difficult when you actually care about the bands you promote.. haha My grandmother is racist. I still love her. Point is, why the fuck should you care about the bands' opinions or messages? Secondly, you've now dismissed the use of both the word "gay" and the word "faggot". Quite frankly, these were words long before someone decided to use them as labels for sexual preference. Faggot connotes smallness, or brittleness. Gay means festive and exuberant. You can go home and sleep with three dozen women, but if afterwards you put on a pink shirt and tailored pants, you're still gay. If you're a skinny weakling, you're a faggot. Never try to battle words, it's pointless. If you need to stand up for your beliefs (which I encourage) then ignore the words and instead take a stand against the ACTIONS. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 7,2005 6:44pm - ArrowHead ""] By the way, I'm not trying to start trouble, just making a point. I've been forwarned by far too many people that I should moderate and temper my comments at this show for fear of upsetting fans and promoters. I sing heavy metal music because I have a message and a point to make, and it's a violent and angry one. I've never really considered metal a proper medium for positivity and politically correctness, and can't understand when people try to force such values onto it. Again, I'm just debating. I mean no disrespect, and I WILL be watching what I say at the show out of respect for you giving us the opportunity. Just letting you know that sometimes the people you disagree with MIGHT have a valid stance, and the intellect to back it up. Hey, isn't that what makes the music so compelling? |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 8,2005 12:31am - adam_time ""] of course i meant no offense, i'm not the kind to "discriminate" or "judge". obviously it was a joke, but how can you understand something unless you can have humor? i make fun of myself just as much if not more than anyone else. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 8,2005 12:36am - sxealex ""] i will cut everyone and anyone that has skin FUCK SKIN WHOS WITH ME! |
| _______________________________ [Mar 8,2005 1:06am - jonah ""] "why the fuck should you care about the bands' opinions or messages? " I probably put at least 35 hours a week into my show booking/record label. Its more or less a third part time job for me. Considering all the work I put into it, why would I want to pomote and pay bands that I dont see eye to eye with? I'm not saying you have to be my best friend, but if I spent all this time flyering and finding venues just to have a band spout ignorant shit I'd be pretty fucking insulted. In most cases putting a band on a bill is a favor, as I hardly make any money at this, and the least they can do is respect the space they are playing in. (in this case a community center) For the record I'm all for letting out aggression and anger with music, but there's no excuse for ignorance and idiocy. I'm not "battling" words, I'm more so offering alternatives. You can go anywhere in MA hear kids rant about homophobic/sexist/racist bullshit, but why not try something different and run shows where people of all walks of life feel welcome. Also, If I offer a band a show, that doesn't mean I'm "forcing" values onto them. You don't have to play this show if you don't want to. I know your not starting shit and im all for talking about this stuff. If you want to talk more in person thats totally cool. I'm not sure what the valid stance is behind words that seriously hurt people, but hey, we can chat. Also, I normally email all the bands and let them know about my thoughts on shows and this kind of stuff, but this was so last minute I didn't think of it. Hopefully things run well none the less. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 8,2005 1:07am - jonah ""] adam, shits cool! |
| __________________________________ [Mar 8,2005 3:38am - adam_time ""] good. i'd hate to make you pissed over a thoughtless comment. i'm printing something else anyway. can't decide between the boxing turtle or the burning hand... i think the turtle will win. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 8,2005 9:46am - JonahBloodbath ""] its all good man |
| _______________________________ [Mar 8,2005 5:00pm - Jonah ""] top |
| __________________________________ [Mar 8,2005 5:55pm - ArrowHead ""] Jonah, of course things will go smoothly, I already gave you my word. As far as "battling" words, I wasn't really referring to the show and standards. I was talking about this thread. If words like gay and faggot bother you due to thier homosexual connotations, then speaking up when people use such words will only fuel the fire. As I pointed out earlier, One cannot fight the words, but one can EASILY dissasociate the words from thier hurtful intents. Especially words like gay, faggot, nigger, and other words that have been completely removed from thier actual meaning. In fact, it's probably more ignorant to assign such words to thier slanderous alternative meanings than it is to use them freely with no ill will intended. |
| _______________________________ [Mar 8,2005 7:23pm - Jonah ""] The homosexual connotation doesn't bother me at all, its the negative connotation that sucks. no one calls someone a "fag" with no ill will intended, its obviously usually a put down. and thats a bum out. As far as what I can do about it, there isn't much. The best I can think of is trying to lead by example and not encouraging or promoting homophobia/racism/sexism. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 8,2005 8:14pm - ArrowHead ""] But that's the point. Faggot has always had a connotation of weakness. A faggot in actuality is a bundle of sticks used as kindling wood. People in europe refer to ciggarettes as "fags". Long before uncloseted homosexuality became the norm, faggot was used in slang to refer towards anything small, weak, brittle, or diminutive. When ignorance prevailed, homosexuality was considered weakness. Therefore the labeling of faggot. If you want to feel better, than don't call people that like homosexual sex faggots. However, you need to also learn yourself how to remove that connotation in your OWN mind. Really, why DID you assume that the "everyones gay" idea was homophobic? Literally read, the slogan means "everyone is happy and having a good time". We all have stereotypes and connections we have to learn to think around. It just seems to me that you're so blinded by those of others, you've completely missed your own. |
| __________________________________ [Mar 8,2005 8:16pm - ArrowHead ""] By the way, this thread has gone way off topic, but this show is going to be SICK! We played with locked in a vacancy out in NY. I bought a cd, and they're nice guys. Also, I've been dying to play with nicaea room. I honestly think we've been trying to play with these guys since I first joined the band. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 8,2005 9:22pm - JonahBloodbath ""] A. I really don't need a lecture on the meaning of these words. I know what a faggot is etc.. I'm not sure why your trying to make it sound like I have a problem and if I ignore these hurtful words then they will stop being hurtful. Homophobia is a huge problem for a lot of people and pretending that whenever some jock yells "stop being such a fag" he's talking about a brittle bundle of sticks doesn't do shit. Also, I didn't assume "everyone is gay" was homophobic, thats why I asked what he meant. Obviously he wasn't using the "happy" definition, but I know adam and he's a chill dude, so I was just curious. B. I'm also pretty psyched for this show. I've never seen your band or nicaea room so I'm pumped for both of you. LIAV and Within the fray are always awesome so I know i'll enjoy myself no matter what! |
| ________________________________ [Mar 8,2005 9:59pm - Soloman ""] hurray for brittle sticks and festive people. This show is gonna be sick. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 9,2005 8:22am - PilloryDan@work ""] ArrowHead said:But that's the point. Faggot has always had a connotation of weakness. A faggot in actuality is a bundle of sticks used as kindling wood. People in europe refer to ciggarettes as "fags". Long before uncloseted homosexuality became the norm, faggot was used in slang to refer towards anything small, weak, brittle, or diminutive. When ignorance prevailed, homosexuality was considered weakness. Therefore the labeling of faggot. If you want to feel better, than don't call people that like homosexual sex faggots. However, you need to also learn yourself how to remove that connotation in your OWN mind. Really, why DID you assume that the "everyones gay" idea was homophobic? Literally read, the slogan means "everyone is happy and having a good time". We all have stereotypes and connections we have to learn to think around. It just seems to me that you're so blinded by those of others, you've completely missed your own. You mean to tell me I've been calling Chris a "Bundle of Sticks" this whole time......................haha I must be confused!!!! |
| _____________________________ [Mar 9,2005 2:26pm - cdan ""] flyer for download/print: http://pillorygrind.com/flyer_march11.htm |
| ________________________________ [Mar 9,2005 2:56pm - Soloman ""] typical rttp response to above post: "uh this was already posted dude. " |
| _______________________________ [Mar 10,2005 11:25am - cdan ""] haha, oh yeah, i guess i'm a fucking ASSHOLE! :spineyes: |
| ______________________________ [Mar 10,2005 6:57pm - Blue ""] tomorrow. |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 9:34am - attendmyrequiem nli ""] woo-hoo im seeing fucking pillory tonight! i hope i don't miss within the fray either. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 11,2005 9:48am - cdan ""] try not to miss the Nicaea Room, they're sick: http://www.myspace.com/thenicaearoom |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 11:38am - PilloryDan@work ""] I have a HUGE zit that doesn't want to pop! |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 12:35pm - adam_time ""] i'm gonna cream myself |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 12:43pm - adam_time ""] <img src="http://www.polarworld.com/images/feces.jpg"> save the poop! |
| _________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 2:26pm - Soloman ""] [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 2:31pm - JonahBloodbath ""] This just in: who fucking cares that its snowing?! Show goes on no matter what! |
| ______________________________ [Mar 11,2005 3:05pm - cdan ""] snow or shine...grind is like footbal |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 3:58pm - JonahBloodbath ""] top |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 5:14pm - dirtycrayon ""] i saw a documentary thursday night that featured cipher. i'll try to make it to this if i can. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 5:17pm - jonah ""] afropunk? |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 5:23pm - dirtycrayon ""] jonah said:afropunk? yeah, there was a screening of it wednesday night actually at the milkway then afterwards this punk band from philly called philmore brown played. i didn't see the entire movie due to technical difficulties but what i did see was awesome! |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2005 6:02pm - blue nli ""] leaving in a few. moe and i are gonna dance it up for cipher. hah. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 12,2005 12:47pm - JonahBloodbath ""] so so turn out, but that was to be expected. thanks to the bands for playing and the kids for coming and dancing! |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 12,2005 12:51pm - the_reverend ""] with like 20 shows last night and snow, I figured as much. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 12,2005 12:55pm - JonahBloodbath ""] yeah me too. 22 kids paid to get in. so with them and 4 bands the room had an alright number of people in it, but It sucks cause I had to pay bands out of pocket, but whatever.. punk rock.. |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 12,2005 2:27pm - anonymous ""] jonah is the man, thats that. |
| ______________________________ [Mar 12,2005 4:23pm - cdan ""] thanks for an awesome show jonah |
| ______________________________________________ [Mar 13,2005 6:21pm - attendmyrequiem nli ""] yeah, sick show jonah. |