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some crazy shit going on in Egypt

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[Jan 28,2011 11:35pm - arktouros ""]
well the protesters are pro-democratic, but yeah
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[Jan 28,2011 11:41pm - goatcatalyst ""]
My sources tell me that Myatt himself posted in this thread.
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[Jan 30,2011 12:19pm - ShadowSD ""]

reimroc said:Isreal will be plunged into another war.
We will give them help.
It will all converge with the US invading Iran. That domino effect.
Shit will be going down.



No, this would not happen under the current admin, which is really an incredible stroke of good luck and timing, because I think if either McCain or HRC or most anyone else likely to be President had gotten the job (Republican or Democrat), we'd be in exactly in the shitstorm you describe as a result of this crisis. It pays to have someone in the job who is anti-neocon to the bone from a childhood of seeing first-hand how external power oppresses third world countries; Obama won't invade anywhere because he knows it's self-defeating, thankfully.

Iran is a huge country with several times the population of Iraq, and so invading it would be a disaster for all involved, the US included. I used to worry all the time about this happening, and I probably will again from 2017 on, but it's not happening under this President, and I'd bet money on it. The news even noted this morning about how what he said on Friday (demanding protesters be allowed Internet and cell phone access by Mubarak) was completely different than all previous US responses to threats against allied dictators, which were considerably more supportive and never involved voicing demands on behalf on the people.
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[Jan 30,2011 12:23pm - ShadowSD ""]

arilliusbm said:This stinks of a CIA Covert OP.


No, this isn't like Mossadegh in 1953, this is an organic revolution that was a long-time coming in Egypt, spurred by youth and technological access to communication.

After all, the CIA got rid of the rising pro-democracy leader Mossadegh in Iran in order to prop up their allied dictator (the Shah); why would they plan a mission to overthrow their allied dictator (Mubarak)?
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[Jan 30,2011 3:07pm - BSV  ""]
I think Julio's sells beer from Egypt.
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[Jan 30,2011 3:13pm - Boozegood ""]
This is that place with those big triangles, right?
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[Jan 30,2011 4:54pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
No, that's Paris:

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[Jan 30,2011 6:59pm - arilliusbm ""]

ShadowSD said:
arilliusbm said:This stinks of a CIA Covert OP.


No, this isn't like Mossadegh in 1953, this is an organic revolution that was a long-time coming in Egypt, spurred by youth and technological access to communication.

After all, the CIA got rid of the rising pro-democracy leader Mossadegh in Iran in order to prop up their allied dictator (the Shah); why would they plan a mission to overthrow their allied dictator (Mubarak)?



I was being facetious in some regard; however, I would not be surprised if it was a mixture of "organic revolution" and some sort of secret operation. Lest we forget, one of American's tactics is to undermine governments for strategic purposes down the road. The fact of the matter is that we really don't know what forces -if any- are at work here. Yes, Egypt is one of our closest allies in the Middle East, so it's somewhat of a sticky situation. We've had a good relationship with Egypt for the last 30 years, albeit their government is not democratic in the current state. Perhaps the greatest factor in this is how the younger generation wants freedoms... freedoms that they don't currently have. Given the proximity to Israel, however, I'd assume that we would welcome this with open-arms, as our longtime goal is to "spread democracy" throughout the world, which is simple jargon for westernizing the world as we squabble over the last bit of resources left.

Then again, it was a long time coming.
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[Jan 30,2011 8:11pm - grandmotherweb ""]

dreadkill said:
arktouros said:best live coverage
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/?foo=bar




foo=bar? FUBAR?



foo, bar, baz, etc. are programmer slang for variables that you're too lazy (or paranoid) to name something more descriptive.

also, here's some pretty graphs
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml
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[Feb 2,2011 2:52am - TheRidersofDoom ""]
Mubarak says he aint running again

which means he will serve the rest of his term, pass all sorts of legislation that alters the country to keep his ilk in power, and hand groom a successor.

but word is the people are still saying fuck that and want him out of the country immediately.

I hear in Jordan and Yemen similar shit is happening. If this spreads to one more country you can bet we will intervene out of protection of Israel.

How interesting would it be to have a potentially hostile party controlling the Suez canal which is far more important than both Oil and Israel combined?

One can only hope these people get their freedom if that is what we stand for as a country, I am hoping this spreads to Saudi Arabia soon as they are one of the most subjugated people in the region.

More than likely we will prop up muburak by sending money so they can subsidize food prices and create jobs there to quiet the protests.

You can bet your money there is no way we will allow a party hostile to the west to control the Suez canal.
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[Feb 2,2011 5:48am - SkinSandwich ""]
I saw on the news that looters ripped the heads off two mummies. Look it up as I am too lazy and it is 5:48 in the morning. Mummies are wicked pissed.
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[Feb 2,2011 10:42am - dertoxia ""]
Yeah they also stole 2 statues of king tut. Not only stole, but snapped the fuckers off their base. I can't imagine how that was allowed to happen. First order of business when the protests started getting serious should have been "secure the museum" not "turn off the facebookz".
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[Feb 2,2011 7:00pm - TheRidersofDoom ""]
Unfortunately a lot of muslims in Egypt hate the pre-Arab history as they see it blinding the world to their existence and history in the region. The few people who protect the antiquities I applaud, the government only cares because of the tourist dollars it brings.
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[Feb 3,2011 6:05am - SkinSandwich ""]
I laughed my ass off this morning when I saw video on the news of a dude with a baseball bat riding a Camel running through the huge crowd. Fucking hilarious!
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[Feb 4,2011 9:45am - arkquimanthorn  ""]
http://blogs.colgate.edu/khanegyptprimer.pdf
good primer pamphlet on the land under the aegean sea
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[Feb 4,2011 11:00am - Spydre ""]
20+ People getting crushed by a diplomat's car.

bennyhillifier

And another of a police van crushing people.

bennyhillifier
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[Feb 4,2011 12:37pm - SkinSandwich ""]

Spydre said:20+ People getting crushed by a diplomat's car.

bennyhillifier

And another of a police van crushing people.

bennyhillifier




LULZ!!! That was awesome! This is why you do not give primitive people modern things.
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[Feb 4,2011 12:45pm - Yeti ""]
whoa, that first video is nuts. that van must have been going 50.
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[Feb 4,2011 12:48pm - arilliusbm ""]

SkinSandwich said:
This is why you do not give primitive people modern things.



So you're saying the Giza and the Pyramids aren't a feat of mankind, but that of a primitive people?
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[Feb 4,2011 1:11pm - ark  ""]
Pills are modern things, dogma and ideology is ancient
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[Feb 4,2011 1:26pm - WhiffItGood ""]
Israel is gonna attack the shit out of them and move in on that prime real estate. Thats why. Piss them off until Israel "has no choice!"
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[Feb 4,2011 2:18pm - TheRidersofDoom ""]

arilliusbm said:
SkinSandwich said:
This is why you do not give primitive people modern things.



So you're saying the Giza and the Pyramids aren't a feat of mankind, but that of a primitive people?



The Arabs pretty much killed off the vast majority of blood that lived in Egypt prior to the Arab invasion.

Ancient Egypt was racially diverse as fuck and even had several black pharaohs.

the more you know
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[Feb 4,2011 2:19pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
Hey Egypt - You were spawned.. by niggers.
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[Feb 4,2011 2:28pm - goatcatalyst ""]
I hear Obama secretly flew to Egypt to console Mubarak. He admitted that he is a foreign-born Muslim and then they kissed an Israeli flag to show their allegiance and to assure that everything would be ok.
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[Feb 4,2011 2:32pm - arilliusbm ""]

TheRidersofDoom said:
arilliusbm said:
SkinSandwich said:
This is why you do not give primitive people modern things.



So you're saying the Giza and the Pyramids aren't a feat of mankind, but that of a primitive people?



The Arabs pretty much killed off the vast majority of blood that lived in Egypt prior to the Arab invasion.

Ancient Egypt was racially diverse as fuck and even had several black pharaohs.

the more you know



Honestly, I was setting you up for a post. Mission success.
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[Feb 4,2011 2:59pm - Alx_Casket ""]

bennyhillifier
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[Feb 4,2011 3:18pm - Yeti ""]
hahahaha i love the Onion.
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[Feb 4,2011 3:23pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
Joe Lieberman Approves of this thread

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[Feb 4,2011 5:15pm - Alx_Casket ""]
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[Feb 4,2011 5:24pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
HAHA
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[Feb 4,2011 5:51pm - DestroyYouAlot ""]
hory shet ror
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[Feb 6,2011 5:50pm - the_reverend ""]
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[Feb 10,2011 2:59pm - arkquimanthorn  ""]
holy shit, mubarak is actually stepping down. shit won't settle for years though. the country is backward in more than regime.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/20112101653445426.html
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[Feb 10,2011 3:11pm - arilliusbm ""]

arkquimanthorn said:holy shit, mubarak is actually stepping down. shit won't settle for years though. the country is backward in more than regime.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/20112101653445426.html



QUICK, PUT A US-BACKED SECRET CIA AGENT IN AS PRESIDENT TO FIX THE COUNTRY!!!!11234123TG RENR C SRA\'
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[Feb 10,2011 3:16pm - Slag ""]
Lets hope not.... but we all know what is really happening.
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[Feb 10,2011 4:13pm - goatcatalyst ""]
How bout that? Mubarak: "Eat shit, buttdarts."
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[Feb 10,2011 4:40pm - Headbanging Man  ""]
I am pretty fucking worried about the prospect of a new false flag attack pinned on the Muslim Brotherhood to allow for broader US/NATO/UN intervention for "stability" in N. Africa. That is if the Muslim Brotherhood doesn't provide such a pretext themselves... Based on our intervention in Yemen for the past 2 years or so though, it certainly need not take place outside of Egypt. The magic words ("national security") have lost a bit of cache, but they still continue to ensure a blank check for radical diplomatic/intelligence/military control over foreign lands, so I won't be surprised if (9/11 co-conspirator?) Robert Gates sends in a few thousand Special Forces overnight while Washington sleeps, in the next few weeks.

Looks like he didn't step down after all.... Whoops.
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[Feb 11,2011 1:50am - Alx_Casket ""]
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[Feb 11,2011 9:59am - arkquimanthorn  ""]
Uninstalling dictator ... 99% complete ███████████████████████████░ -ERROR-
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[Feb 11,2011 10:36am - arkquimanthorn  ""]
this is TODAY in cairo.

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