"GOD" Why or why not?[views:12693][posts:93]_____________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 7:40pm - swamplorddvm ""] Think about it, just think about it. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 7:49pm - JellyFish ""] I thought about it. And Im gonna flip a coin. Heads, gods bullshit. Tails, gods bullshit. Ready? Uh, uh, uh, uh. Heads. Gods bullshit. See its that easy. Writing the bible was easier. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 7:53pm - JellyFish ""] Now, Im not a satanist. But man, give me a break. Watch the fucking history channel. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 7:57pm - the_reverend ""] "no jesus, no beast" -immolation |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 8:01pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] God is such a stupid idea. I'm not even going to discuss it. To each his own and such and so forth. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 8:05pm - swamplorddvm ""] Thats why i said "why or why not?" If you are for him tell why. If not tell why but keep it taste full |
| _______________________________ [Feb 2,2004 8:09pm - retzam ""] I say there are too many things in the universe unexplained to think 100% either way that there is a God (or gods) or not. Science proves many things wrong about Christianity, but nothing can or ever will prove the exsistance or non-exsistance of a God. There is nothing wrong with believing or not believing unless you are 100% one way, which is folly. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 8:10pm - subjugate ""] not |
| _________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 8:12pm - succubus ""] the_reverend said:"no jesus, no beast" -immolation i haven't heard you say...errr type that in a while |
| _______________________________ [Feb 2,2004 8:12pm - retzam ""] subjugate said:not Prove it. That is all I ask. Prove that God doesn't exist. If you can then I revoke my previous statement. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 8:49pm - JellyFish ""] Theres no way to prove theres no god. Its about blind faith. I have my opinions like the next man, and I respect his. THeres nothing wrong with thinking its crap, like theres nothing wrong with believing. Man, do I sound liberal. |
| _______________________________ [Feb 2,2004 9:49pm - retzam ""] JellyFish said:Theres no way to prove theres no god. Its about blind faith. I have my opinions like the next man, and I respect his. THeres nothing wrong with thinking its crap, like theres nothing wrong with believing. Man, do I sound liberal. Indeed (about everything, including you sounding liberal, you liberaltisticallist). |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 10:08pm - subjugate ""] i am there for there isn't retzam said:subjugate said:not Prove it. That is all I ask. Prove that God doesn't exist. If you can then I revoke my previous statement. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 2,2004 11:57pm - Abbath ""] religon is for the weak minded, the ones who are afraid to look out to the unknown. In due time people will realize this but this will take a very long time. Just believe in whatever you want, but don't be a follower. I doubt there is an all powerful being that controls everything and anything |
| __________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 12:00am - succubus ""] [img] |
| __________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 12:02am - succubus ""] that was a slice of heaven for $300 a night |
| ____________________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 12:52am - BornSoVileinNatick ""] cuase alans drunk |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 2:23am - MyDeadDoll ""] if there was a god, i wouldn't have gone through so much shit so far in my life. i'd also be a lot happier and i wouldn't need to be on medication. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 9:42am - the_reverend ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 11:43am - deificzero ""] It's hard to believe mass amounts of people base their entire life on an invisible man in the sky who promises free will but punishes eternal damnation for taking a shit. EyehategoD |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 11:45am - deificzero ""] That picture is the shit |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 11:57am - RustedAngel ""] what do you guys think about people having near death experiences and explaining the experience of seeing a bright light, ect ect? when my great-grandmother was dying, my family all were gathered around her in her hospital bed as she died. from what everyone tells me that was in there with her she apparently reached her arm out into the air and my family told her to "go towards the light" then she died. I don't believe in god, I have never been baptised, or brough up with any religious background...but I think it's kind of wierd when people almost die but come back to life and explain what happend. The way I think of it is "I'll find out when I die." >:] |
| __________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 12:01pm - succubus ""] you fools! you will all burn in hell! |
| __________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 12:04pm - succubus ""] now bow down to your god... and thank him for this site and all his photos and radio show, etc. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 12:05pm - deificzero ""] If you've ever done certain mind altering drugs, you would know that when your brain looses oxygen, hallucinations can occur and your mind is somewhat "set free" and wanders through different thoughts, much like a dream. Also, when your brain shuts down, senses can still be active like hearing and feeling. When people die, their senses are active for hours and maybe days, depending on the sickness. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 12:07pm - succubus ""] [img] there he is... the one in the middle now bow bitches! |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 12:07pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] way too much ignorance in this thread. |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 12:08pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] succubus said:[img] there he is... the one in the middle now bow bitches! 3////////////////////////D |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 12:38pm - the_reverend ""] deificzero is sort of right... the bright light is reported to be cause by exploding brain cells due to lack of oxygen. same things happens to divers that have no oxygen. its sort of like tunnel vision. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 2:00pm - swamplorddvm ""] GOD "The one supreme being, the creator and ruler of the universe." The one who came out of nowhere and for some reason created this universe we live in. The one who created us humans, the one race "he" expects to do what "he" feels is right even though we had no choice of existing and would be condemned to eternal suffering for taking ones own life. The one who expects us to believe all that is written in "his" book, even though science is quickly proving it all wrong. The one who expects us to believe in a story about a man and his boat with two of each animal in the world. The one who punishes the human race for the mistake of one of the only two people on earth at the time and SUPRISE!!! It was a woman. The one who allowed "evil" empires to spread across the world in "his" name. The one who would damn us for giving in to our natural urges which "he gave us" in the first place. The one who allows the greedy and corrupt to succeed while the good suffer. The one who created and allowed the "lord of evil" (satan) to rule this world for so long. The one who mentions nothing about the Dinosaurs or the other billions of planets in "his" book. The one who explains nothing of how humans have existed alot longer than what was written in "his" book. The one who would send a decent human being to hell simply for not believing in "him". The one who was created by a man who needed an answer. In "him" I choose not to believe. -DVM |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 2:25pm - swamplorddvm ""] I saw this sign one time that said "Jesus hates." i couldnt believe it. funny shit. it was in holden. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 2:48pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] Christ is coming. Look busy. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 2:51pm - succubus ""] Spalding is the ONLY one who will be saved! |
| _________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 3:01pm - succubus ""] [img] god just told me he wants to do it with me in there... |
| _______________________________ [Feb 3,2004 3:38pm - retzam ""] RustedAngel said: I don't believe in god, I have never been baptised, or brough up with any religious background...but I think it's kind of wierd when people almost die but come back to life and explain what happend. The way I think of it is "I'll find out when I die." >:] That's pretty much the way it is for me too. Also, regarding that rather large post swamplord, how come the author doesn't mention that Jesus had nothing to do with the writing of the Bible? The bible was written by the apostles, loosely based on the teachings of Jesus. How then is it "his" (god's) book, when he, and his son, had nothing to do with the writing of it, whether he exists or not? What do those initials stand for at the bottom (is this a really ignorant question? I have a feeling it is)? Whoever it is, they are sorely mistaken in their reasonings. Now, regarding that sign, are you Dick Hurtz? |
| __________________________________ [Feb 3,2004 3:56pm - JellyFish ""] God is Mikael Akerfeldt!!! OPETH IN 25 DAYS!!! |
| _______________________________ [Feb 3,2004 5:21pm - retzam ""] JellyFish said:God is Mikael Akerfeldt!!! OPETH IN 25 DAYS!!! AhhhhHH! Yes!!! Shit! I need to get my ticket so I can go see God and his band!!!!! |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 1:09pm - swamplorddvm ""] Succubus, actualy spaldin is an athiest last time I checked, So he's going to hell with the rest of us. oh, and spaldin, you said there was alot of ignorance on this thread. Please explain why you think so, and if you don't mind explain you opinions about "god". |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 1:25pm - swamplorddvm ""] Retzam, twat i meant by "his" book whas the old testament. (remeber there are two.) and yes "god" or "his" son did NOT write the book, twas abunch of humans. The book (the first testament) is supposed to be about twat "god" did and twat "he" wants from us and how this crappy world was created. And most of that crap written in the first book is WHACK especially the stuff about the earth being created in, what was it? A week or so. HA!!! My reasons why i don't believe in god. Look to science people, it explains alot more the the bible ever will. DVM are MY initials. |
| _________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 1:27pm - succubus ""] hi swamplorddvm, i was being silly since he agreed with me when i said the reverend was god..that's all :spineyes: |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 1:34pm - swamplorddvm ""] I know. I'm just goofing. \m/ |
| _________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 1:43pm - Kalopsia ""] swamplorddvm said: GOD "The one supreme being, the creator and ruler of the universe." The one who came out of nowhere and for some reason created this universe we live in. The one who created us humans, the one race "he" expects to do what "he" feels is right even though we had no choice of existing and would be condemned to eternal suffering for taking ones own life. The one who expects us to believe all that is written in "his" book, even though science is quickly proving it all wrong. The one who expects us to believe in a story about a man and his boat with two of each animal in the world. The one who punishes the human race for the mistake of one of the only two people on earth at the time and SUPRISE!!! It was a woman. The one who allowed "evil" empires to spread across the world in "his" name. The one who would damn us for giving in to our natural urges which "he gave us" in the first place. The one who allows the greedy and corrupt to succeed while the good suffer. The one who created and allowed the "lord of evil" (satan) to rule this world for so long. The one who mentions nothing about the Dinosaurs or the other billions of planets in "his" book. The one who explains nothing of how humans have existed alot longer than what was written in "his" book. The one who would send a decent human being to hell simply for not believing in "him". The one who was created by a man who needed an answer. In "him" I choose not to believe. -DVM dude that is beyond true. i have several books on atheism (unfortunately i haven't gotten around to reading most of them yet, i've taken a reading break as of late) but one book i read is sheer brilliance as far as proving Christianity wrong. it's called Atheism: The Case Against God by George H. Smith. in simple terms, he dissects the very concept of the Christian god and gives logical reasons as to how "he" cannot exist. case in point: it is said that God is Omniscient and Omnipotent, all knowing and all powerful. now that's ALL knowing and ALL powerful. meaning there is nothing he doesn't know, and there is nothing he cannot do. so think about this. if god knows what the future is, then he cannot change the future. the future is out of god's control. if he could change the future, then he simply has an idea of the what the future could be, which any mere mortal could do. so basically, not even god can be both omniscient and omnipotent. Also, if god does know what the future holds, why did he even bother creating mankind? he could see what a failed experiment we would become. he already knew of WW2, 9/11, ect. well before he even created us. if he "loves" us so much, why would he have created us to put us through that kind of suffering and chaos? i once saw a movie where a man was preaching at a church. he picked up a woman's baby, held the baby out to the crowd and said "look at this child. this beautiful little child. look at his hands. now i don't have enough love for this child, to drive a stake through his hands.......... god does." does anyone else see the absolute insanity in that statement??????? finally, my favorite of all my arguments in this subject, one that i discovered myself. for any of you that might have a bible at home, open it up and read Genesis 6:6. it says "and god felt regrets that he had made men in the earth, and he felt hurt in his heart." basically what that means is, god made a mistake creating mankind. it was wrong of him to create us.....wait a second....... i thought god was infallible. think about that. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 2:08pm - DeOdiumMortis ""] No dinosaurs in the bibble. That always made me sad. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 9:04pm - JellyFish ""] dude, i love dinosaurs. |
| __________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 9:08pm - JellyFish ""] I like your ideas, Kalopsia. Post some more of those books titles and authors if you get a chance. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 10:11pm - retzam ""] DeOdiumMortis said:No dinosaurs in the bibble. That always made me sad. Yes, dinos are cool as shit. Remember DinoRicky? Always going around killing all those dinosaurs? Man that was a bummer. Anyway, all you guys are doing is over and over again proving that the Christian god can't exsist as the bible says he is, infallible, omnipotent, etc. Do you realize that Christianity is a relatively new religion and most other, and older, religions don't recognize God, or in most cases, the gods, as infallible beings? Why not discuss the gods of ancient Greece, Rome, etc. How about the Norse gods? All of you are too dead set on proving the bible wrong (when in fact the bible isn't even the basis of Christianity) that you are forgetting about the major picture here. And swamplord, you didn't answer my second question ("Are you Dick Hurtz?"). Please someone get that joke. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 10:50pm - JellyFish ""] dick hertz from holden |
| _________________________________ [Feb 4,2004 11:59pm - tbone_r ""] Although i don't believe in god, Kalopsia's statement was pretty weak. There is no way to prove there is no god. All you have proven is that that type of God doesn't exist. Science can only go as far as to prove that all aspects of life are possible with out a God-which it pretty much has. That, however, does not mean that there is no god at all. And your attempt at saying that 'god' is suppossed to be the protector of man is weak as well. According to christians, whose god ur trying to disprove, god created man w/ free will...so if people start WW2, or 9/11 he's forced to sit back and watch. anyways, go to the Ken Haskell/In My Sorrow show the 6th at the kingston k of c-8pm. It's ken haskell's debut show and it should be a doosey goin to town with one in the brown -tom:shocker: |
| _________________________________ [Feb 5,2004 1:02am - Kalopsia ""] i never said there was no god. i truly don't know if there is or isn't one. if i had to choose though, i'd say there isn't. i was simply proving falcities with the christian god. someone brought up a good point before, if we have free will, why are we punished for using that free will? (example, lust) if the answer is because god wants/expects us to do what he believes is the "right" thing, then that's not free will. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 5,2004 9:51am - the_reverend ""] Kalopsia said:Also, if god does know what the future holds, why did he even bother creating mankind? he could see what a failed experiment we would become. he already knew of WW2, 9/11, ect. well before he even created us. if he "loves" us so much, why would he have created us to put us through that kind of suffering and chaos? I believe Mark Twain's got this covered. I forget the name, but the one where the guy animated clay and then killed the people. God (in concept) gave us free will, knowing that it'll turn out badly. In reality (as I see it), God, god, gods, crop circles, magical runes, etc... are all just our human brains trying to make sense out of things. And hell, what's the most senseless thing? Death? yep, and so it goes that all the religion base on explaining this... and maybe giving meaning to death (afterlife). What's the second mystery? where we came from? these are all things to put people's minds at easy so they can focus on the daily stuff. I see no problem in people beliving in christ or buddha or the anhk around their neck or whatever if it helps them get through life to do the things they have to do. just don't step on anyone else's toes. oh and christ was just like michael jackson... he was black and then became white. though now jesus is used in the name of people hating blacks... which is a whole other ball of wax. love thy brother. |