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[QUOTE="the_taste_of_cigarettes:148193"]Mike_FOD said:[QUOTE]Who would ever consider DRI to be grind? They were crossover, which meant a thrash/hxc hybrid. As for Siege...they were more hxc and slightly proto-grind. Not all grind has to be political either. Instead of that whole big description, you could sum up grind like this.... De-tuned punk riffs, blasting, scream/growl trade offs, and should always be blitz (very short songs). Listen to Discordance Axis, 324, Nyctophobic, Mule Skinner, Dahmer and Terrorizer for real grind. Another thing... fuck all nu hxc kids who think that by screaming nonsense into a mic, and making a stupid DEP rip off noise with the guitar, that their band is grind. I hope you fall into a lake of acid.[/QUOTE] That's the point of the thread, to clear up situations like this one. 1) You name some later acts in order to support who started the genre. The problem is, you can't be part of a later generation of the genre and be considered an originator / developer so much. True, Terrorizer helped start it, but DA? as much as I like them, that's kinda ridiculous to say they helped start grind. 2) De-Tuned punk riffs, blasting, scream/growl trade offs? That's horrible inaccurate. Many grind bands don't detune at ALL, there's more than just blasting involved (look at EVERY early grind band...), and not all grind bands trade screams/and growls. Although you can find those things IN grind, those do not DEFINE grind. Those are in MANY other styles of music. 3) DRI is recognized as being influential in the development of the grind platform, as is Anal Cunt. Napalm Death DEFINITELY would be in there, too. Much like Early Rock N Roll only bears a moderate resemblance to today's "rock n roll", same goes for early grind development. They didn't have Pig Destroyer to listen to back then, so it didn't sound like Pig Destroyer -- it sounded like "thrash/hxc hybrid". This paved the way for more hybridized musics.[/QUOTE]
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