Why "White Nationalism" Fails[views:3362][posts:13]____________________________________ [Sep 28,2005 1:05pm - infoterror ""] Why White Nationalism Fails This article will need a disclaimer to offend all of those readers who are still unclear on the issue of race: race is heritage, and heritage is how nature passes along the important traits, and thus race is one of the more important considerations in one's life. Race is not just "white" or "black," but what tribe - what mixture of racial subgroups later shaped into something unique by geography and culture - comprises one's origin. Race is the measure of empires, and the only continuation of a people (German-speaking people of mixed-race aren't Germans, but German-speakers). Race is the only way that memory and values are preserved through the ravages of time. Race is also taboo in the modern society. Why is it taboo? Briefly: we are in the final days of a mass revolt, by which the crowd of laborers rose up against the aristocracy and replaced their quality-based system of rule with a quantity-based system that focused not on the holiness of the task as a whole, but the holiness of the individual as an atom. It was a switch from top-down to bottom-up rule, and while it resulted in some positive things, it has also created the greatest disaster in human history, which is our overpopulation and a massive decrease in the quality of our population. Race is one aspect of this crowd revolt, as the crowd likes to use race and any other tool possible to break up bloodliness and force us all to be "equal," which is the natural state of people in a crowd since few of them are good at anything but being a member of a group. Before one approaches this issue, it's important to see with clarity its framing. There is not a conspiracy on the basis of race against races; rather, there is an underlying tendency toward the type of society in which we live to crush those who are different and possibly better at something or another, and to value linear quantities - money, popularity, power - more than internal qualities, such as those which permit selective breeding to produce better humans in every race. Because we are ruled by the crowd through implements such as democracy and economic competition and product popularity, every idea that is publically advanced to us will be a solicitation for the popularity of the crowd. For this reason our politicians and social leaders are exclusively in denial about race, because to deny someone anything on the basis of inherent traits is to deny the primacy of quantity over quality. It is the belief of this writer than Traditional nationalism is the best system of government for any race, and for all races together. It allows the individual to live among similar people who share values systems and therefore intuitively get along and can work toward shared, higher goals. It gives an identity to land, and gives people a reason to believe in things larger than their own lives, including the surrounding ecosystem and the culture as a whole. It is the most positive system of government that exists, in contrast to the selfish modern governments that indulge the whims of the individual while attempting to shape him according to a centralized program of "good" intentions. Nationalism is also localism, as it means that smaller communities police themselves and handle their own trade, shying away from large corporations and central governments. Nationalism is diversity; Nationalism is flexibility; Nationalism is natural. However, "white nationalism" is a populist (crowd revolt) interpretation of nationalism, and it needs to be destroyed for two reasons. First, it takes the place of a meaningful nationalist movement, and sucks people up into its vortex, burns them out, and then spits them out, at which point they will normally have nothing further to do with nationalist ideas. Second, it is ineffective and because of the cycle of cognitive dissonance entered by those in the grips of its ineffectiveness, tends toward violent and destabilizing acts that achieve nothing. White Nationalism is pro-white crowd revolt, and it will increase and not decrease the underlying problem that has caused our racial problem in the West to date. In place of white nationalist movements, it makes sense to have groups based around national ethnicities in monocultural (Germany, France, Zimbabwe) areas and to have nativist movements - based on the identity, culture and heritage of the original settlers of these lands - in mixed countries (USA, Canada, UK, Latin America). The essence of nationalism is that each race be distinct from all others, and each tribe as well, and that together they form an order which is opposed to internationalism, or the cosmpolitan mixing of races and cultures for the purposes of commerce. Nationalism is a higher value than mindless self-indulgence, or profit, or any of the other ways in which we gratify the individual at the expense of nature, humankind and the soul of the individual. Nationalism is not a modern function, although it can adapt to modernity and indeed be a vector of changing modernity from soul-killing function toward a qualitative, spiritual existence. Unlike modern political systems, it is not an excuse to unify disparate people under some banner of "self interest" based on sketchy, spacy, academic concepts in politics. It is a blood and soil, practical as a good shovel, both-feet-on-the-ground view of politics as an agent to serve civilization, as seen in the unbroken heritage of the local population. "White Nationalism" is a modernist solution to the situation nationalism addresses. Its goal is to round up all whites, form a single population unified by being white, and then to wage race war and violent, bigoted exclusion against other groups. This author has no problems with violent exclusion, as any population that does not practice violent exclusion will be bred out within a few generations, unless it is so impoverished that no immigrants are attracted. However, White Nationalism does not solve the problems it identifies, and will bring about many more problems owing to its delusional and modernist nature. 1. White Nationalism does not fix the problem. Banding together all whites, including those with Eurasian or Semitic admixture, will simply produce a generic, cultureless race of whites who will then be much easier to assimilate than today's national groups. 2. White Nationalism makes whites neurotic. First, it makes people feel bad about themselves for adopting such doctrinaire and violent outlooks. Second, it is an apocalyptic belief system that makes whites feel that if they do not act now, violently and dogmatically, the entire cause is lost and all will be fecal. Further, it shows them a world in terms of whole loss or whole salvation; either all whites are "saved" and the Great Race War occurs, or nothing happens and we're all horribly doomed immediately. (This author does not attempt to discredit the idea of inducing Race War, as among other things, it would reduce the population of useless and stupid people of all races.) 3. White Nationalism creates pointless enmity toward other races. The problem is not Them. The problem is that they're here, where we need to be. Clearly they need to be removed, but that does not mean we have to kill them, hate them, slander them, or otherwise speak the negative, both true and untrue, of them. What we want is for us and not Them. We want our land for us, and therefore we kick out anyone who isn't us. We can be polite about it. White Nationalism should just rename it after their favorite slander for African-Americans, as it seems to be all they talk about! 4. White Nationalism lowers our level of heroism. White Nationalism is a defensive philosophy. It is reactionary. It is panicked, and it portrays whites as victims. What is needed is a calm voice of reason and masculine assertion of what is right, not a reaction to what is wrong. There are infinitive wrongs in life, and the only way to triumph over them is the success of what is right. 5. White Nationalism does not address internal quality. In addition to failing to draw distinctions between radically different populations such as Germans and Slavs and Venezuelans and Italians and Irish, all of whom may claim to be "white" but each of whom has a distinct heritage and culture that will not mix with others unless averaged into a lowest common denominator as seen in many parts of the USA and Canada, White Nationalism attempts to gloss over internal caste divisions and quality control in the white races. Simply put, in a fair world, most white people would be killed for their gross stupidity (as would most people regardless of race; stupidity has triumphed in modernity). Further, not all white people are equal, and within each tribe, we want to breed the best to lead. White Nationalism is a form of racial Marxism that hopes to mix all whites into a generic melting pot and then eliminate caste and class divisions so that the lower can triumph over the higher; in this way, it's no different than crowd revolt, populist Christianity or Communism. White Nationalism is another modernistic "quantity over quality" idea. 6. White Nationalism is a revolutionary ideology. The concept of revolution is that a grassroots group overthrows ruling elites, and puts into place a better system of leadership. In practice, however, what happens is that a few vicious souls appeal to the sympathies of a grassroots cause and maneuver themselves into power, at which point they murder anyone smart enough to oppose them and then begin ruling in exactly the same way their predecessors did. Communism starved more than the Tzars; the French Revolution murdered an aristocracy and then returned the people to exploitation after years of political unrest; the American revolution separated a colony from its parent country so that it could assume its "world policeman" role. Did anything positive come of these? Perhaps the American Revolution did for the simple reason that it detached a colonial territory from unwieldy central rule. Otherwise, no, and all of these revolutions brought with them the exile and murder of high-quality people for having the wrong opinions. There is no need to abandon our society. There is good among the garbage. Build up the good, and throw out any garbage in your way, and you will have a healthier future than that of some apocalyptic, violent, paranoiac, inflexible "revolutionary." 7. White Nationalism addresses only race and ignores other issues. Unlike National Socialism, which did include economic and green issues, White Nationalism focuses only on race. After the Great Race War and revolution, White Nationalists reason, they will build a perfect society by virtue of its being white. Yet they mention no changes except racial ones. What about pollution? What about overpopulation? What about the fact that we all work long hours in boring jobs for minimal pay? White Nationalism falls into the traditional trap of "left versus right," something which occupies the population with a political dog-and-pony show while the real power exchange goes on behind the scenes. 8. White Nationalism forgets that nationalism is good for every race. For years, insightful minds have suggested that White Nationalists pair up with nationalists from other races. They have not. Why is this? For the most part, it is because they are violent bigots seeking to make themselves feel better for being "white." Many of them are from the lower strata of the white race, or from mixed tribes like Irish or Italian or Russian, and their goal is to try to become part of the favored Northwest European races (German, English, Dutch, Scandinavian). They want to have equal status. This requires not that they take a sane look at Nationalism, but that they find some way to argue their own superiority over other groups simply by virtue of their being white. This in turn requires blind, idiotic bigotry. It's true that the races aren't equal, and that we're different levels of an evolutionary ladder, and that some are above others - this is simply history and science. But one does not have to make a big deal of this; what is important is that our own tribes separate, and be able to breed within themselves to produce the best humans possible. White Nationalism obscures all of this with repetitive, violent ranting. 9. White Nationalism denies the good among Black, Brown and Asian races. They aren't us. They will never be welcome among us. But many of them are good people, and people who have found friends among whites. Do we have to be haters in order to stand up for our own race? White Nationalists would like to think so, thus including anyone sane or compassionate from pro-white political activity, and alienating the rest of us from it. Normal, sane, decent white people will respond to a political initiative that says (sans violent ranting) that we must build a positive culture for white people to exist by themselves and for themselves. This is what most people want. They won't vote for it if it is presented in the White Nationalist way, however, because no one wants to deny the importance of people of other races to us. Many of us, in the way one loves friends (non-sexual), love these people and care about them. We want no part of some ranting organization that sees all Black, Brown or Asian faces as The Enemy. Pro-white is good politics, but pro-bigotry is a failure. That White Nationalism exists permits our overlords to group all pro-white activity with ranting bigots, and thus White Nationalism ensures that no nationalist movement with a chance of success will ever exist. 10. White Nationalism doesn't address the ego problem. The major problem in the West is that people are fixated on themselves and their self-image. A crowd is, paradoxically, made of individuals, and what they want is protection of the individual above all else. Therefore, crowd revolts breed egomania. Most white people now are disconnected from anything beyond their own jobs, wealth, homes and affairs. This leads to a general breakdown in community, a loss of culture and heroic values, and a replacement of all our motivations with selfishness, i.e. commerce, as is favored in Middle Eastern nations. White Nationalism has no plan for this. 11. White Nationalism creates a false positivity. "Feel good about yourself because you're white!" - this is a false and addicting premise. One feels good about oneself for achievements, including but not limited to those of one's ancestors. And one must find an active reason for feeling good about themselves, such as achievements or personality traits. Quality not quantity - but White Nationalism hates this idea, and wants only quantity of whites. 12. White Nationalism is confused regarding Jews. No other culture belongs in one's own. For this reason alone, Jews should be exiled. In 1930s Germany, Jews were the foremost and most successful immigrant group, owing largely to their own racism against Germans and diligent nepotism which allowed them to always hire and promote their own people over Germans. Jews are not unique, not as a people (Semites, of mixed Asian, Black and majority Caucasian descent) and not as a culture, in that their morality is typical crowd revolt mentality. Most likely, they're the remnants of an ancient culture that underwent what the West is undergoing now: crowd revolt, a loss of culture, and the eventual ascendancy of commerce as a replacement for culture and national identity. Jews are not the identity and, while they have clearly disproportionate influence in politics and industry and media, the underlying problem is that white people are susceptible to these ideas because they have no better ideas presented to them. You cannot blame brainwashed masses watching television on Jews; you have to at some point realize that it's more profitable for someone this way, and thus perhaps that the profit motive - a replacement for culture caused by crowd revolt, as the crowd loves quantity instead of quality, and profit is a measurement of quantity - is our downfall and Jews, among other internationalist groups, are merely its enablers. 13. White Nationalism does not reform Christianity and liberailsm. For centuries now Christianity has dominated the West, and while there are highly enlightened (Schopenhauer, Blake, Emerson, Eckhart) Christians, populist Christianity has combined crowd revolt ideology with the dualistic obsession of Christianity. This results in people who think in terms of abstract, absolute symbols like "equality" and "good" and "evil," but view this fantasy world as more important than reality. It is this perverse belief, manifested in both populist Christianity and populist liberalism, that has destroyed our world and contributed greatly to the racial problem. There are sane interpretations of Christianity and Liberalism that do not involve taking on the populist or crowd revolt dimension, and any sensible plan for white people should involve converting these beliefs to healthier form. 14. White Nationalism does not increase culture or values. In fact, it is opposed to culture and values, as it wishes to mix all whites (including those with admixture) into one giant melting pot, and pull from it generic White Culture, which we assume is something derived from the Cleaver family on television. You can have German culture; you can have French culture; you can even have nativist American (English-German) culture. You cannot have generic white culture without destroying what makes each nation great. If you want better whites, separate out other races and tribes, and then breed each nation for its best people. It has been too many years, and too many different experiences and varied fortunes, for whites to be re-integrated into one large group. Trying to commit that integration is a political delusion, and not a practical or beneficient plan. And this brings us back to: 1. White Nationalism does not fix the problem. Despite claims to the contrary, White Nationalism will not make life better for whites. It will force them through another insane revolution and class conflict. It will destroy their culture and replace it with commerce. It will cause untold carnage, destruction of learning, and will probably result in the killing off of our upper castes, slaughtering good along with bad and thus weakening us overall. White people do not support White Nationalism in droves not because they disagree with the idea of "white nations for white people," but because they disagree with the idea of bigotry, the idea of generic white people, the Marxist racial agenda and the utter lack of plan beyond race war inherent to White Nationalism. White Nationalism is a device of our enemies; it replaces political success with clubhouse-mentalitied, backroom resentment and plotting paranoid revolutionaries. This will never succeed among the healthy and normal whites. For whites to succeed in politics, and for them to get national independence and freedom from the intrusion of other races and cultures, White Nationalism must be obsoleted. September 28, 2005 http://www.anus.com/zine/articles/ambuscade/ |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 4:49pm - anonymous ""] You need to grow up a little - |
| ____________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 4:57pm - Scoracrasia ""] Wow, your like Hailtheleaf, all cut and paste. No opinion of your own, only what sounds good to you. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 5:06pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] I think it fails because 'white' is not a nation. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 4,2006 5:33pm - jesus ""] yeah i'm really going to read that |
| _________________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 5:44pm - dwellingsickness ""] where is Hoser when ya need him , haha |
| _______________________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 5:47pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] Scoracrasia said:Wow, your like Hailtheleaf, all cut and paste. No opinion of your own, only what sounds good to you. schmuck :krusty: |
| ______________________________ [Jul 4,2006 5:50pm - Craig ""] Jews are/were not an immigrant group. |
| ______________________________ [Jul 4,2006 6:01pm - hoser ""] Oh my God...I leave the board for 1 hour and look what happens!!! That's it I'm back...I can't allow this drivel!!! |
| ___________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 8:48pm - PatMeebles ""] race is heritage You lose. |
| __________________________________ [Jul 4,2006 10:18pm - Dankill ""] What I don't get is why is he posting about why White Nationalism will fail when that seems to be all he preaches and supports? That's like Hailtheleaf coming on and saying why liberals will ultimately send the country down the tubes. |
| _______________________________ [Jul 5,2006 12:56am - dftg ""] Dankill said:What I don't get is why is he posting about why White Nationalism will fail when that seems to be all he preaches and supports? That's like Hailtheleaf coming on and saying why liberals will ultimately send the country down the tubes. everything else he posts looks like this: insert generic edgy issue here and then go blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and now there's this thread, which goes like this: white nationalism blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah it sounds like it goes against everything else he posts because he cut-and-pasted it from somewhere other than his usual source. I don't think he even reads this shit himself. |
| ________________________________________ [Jul 5,2006 1:51am - GoatOfCatalyst ""] "I can't allow this drivel" that's rich |
| ______________________________________ [Jul 5,2006 3:00am - Y Draig Goch ""] I beleieve in nationalism of nations, what it it meant for. For example I love all the things my people of Ireland did, and I love all the things my people of Iceland did. Nationalism has nothing to do with race, case in point a nation like South Africa...the natives of the nation when it was formed were both of English descent and then others of African descent. Both races were there when the nation was founded so how could you explain south African Nationalism. Or Ireland, you have atleast 10 distinct groups who have come to Ireland and mixed their genes with whoever was there first, most notably the Viking invaders. Nationalism has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with being proud of what your Nation has done or is doing. Funny thing is science puts humans in three groups, Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid. Caucasoid includes, Most Europeaners, Egyptians, Arabs, Jews, and Indians Negroids include most Africans and Mongoloids includes most Asians and Native american groups So technically if you were proud to be white you would be proud of skin pigmant, and then you would also be proud of the light skinned Indians, alot of Brazilians are fair haired and pale skinned, tons of Jews are pale as fuck, tons of Arabs are just as white skinned as most of europe, then in turn you must hate Italians, they're as dark as most Koreans are if not darker I'm going on too much race is silly, there is not a single person on earth who can say he is of one certain tribe purely, most people hide the parts they don't like and make themselves seem pure. For example I never mention that in addition to being Irish and Icelandic I am also Italian, English, Scottish, Welsh, Blackfoot, Mig Maq, and Iranian. Not that I don't like those parts, I am just not as proud and gun-ho for those parts.. In conclusion....Niggas be niggas |