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[QUOTE="the_taste_of_cigarettes:336512"]if it's "honeypump" presents does that not mean ben is booking it? I don't see the distinction you are trying to express. Why would he put that label on someone else's show? Bill's is a lyon's venue. The lyon's venues and CC ones are in the same bag as far as the least likely to have anything to do with the punk scene. Lyon's group is as much a player in the conglomerate, corporate, etc world as Clear Channel, just with less public attention. Ben has used the labels "punk" and "DIY" to sell his shit. So he didn't put it in regards to this one show? That's not saying much. If he used the "N" word to sell all his shows, then left it off the whitehouse show, according to this logic scheme, you would say he never used the N word before or that he couldn't possibly have ever used it to promote anything else. Whether or not he actually told you not to, he threatened Robin with getting his show blocked. If you really want to take the time to find the thread using the amazingly poor search function on BHP feel free. It's there, he said it, it's in poor taste for him to act that way. I agree, blaming ben for problems in a music scene isn't going to solve shit. For the 5th or 6th time I will explain that my interest is in discussing the ethics, guidelines, or ideaology of a musical community. If you have something to say about that it would be much more useful. Just spending our time talking about a guy who IS good at what he does (ethically or not) isn't going to change very much. I'd rather talk about what we can do to make things better, if there's anything at all. Perhaps you could add something to that, Mark? You seem to have a decent knowledge of some thing that go on amongst your constituency. In your experience, what needs to change, what needs to improve, what HAS improved or does NOT need to change?[/QUOTE]
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