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[QUOTE="the_taste_of_cigarettes:337091"]anonymous said:[QUOTE]taste of cigarettes> I think what you are saying makes a little bit of sense and your motives aren't too bound by gossip and/or jealousy, which seems like what motivated the person who started this thread (who mysteriously has not posted anything since his intial few incredibly libelous statements). I think you proved that by starting that other thread (Discuss the inner workings of our music scene(s)) There's probably some things that frustrate you guys within the scene. Every promoter wants their favorite bands to sell out huge awesome DIY venues where the security is cool, the crowd doesn't start fights, drinks are cheap, show can be all ages, etc. but the fact is that's rarely the case. MarkV, Ben Sisto, whoever, they book bands they like, and sometimes they book bands they're not into because the band draws and that will give them resources (money, connections, etc.) to book more bands they do like. Sometime's people have to come to terms with a few facts about metal/hardcore versus indie rock/"honeypump art shit" A) How many fights do you see at a Sleater-Kinney or Lightning Bolt or Iron & Wine show? OK, now B) how many people were thrown out of the last Mastadon show at Axis? How many bouncers had their noses broken trying to stop a fight between a guy beating up a girl in "the pit" at the last Soulfly who on Lansdowne. Why hasn't Blood For Blood played on Lansdowne in several years? Why are there no more matinee shows at Bills with bands like Bane and the rest of the Bridge9 brigade? Do you know the answers to these questions? I do. I worked on Lansdowne as an independent promoter for years. Basically, there's always going to be very few people who want to deal with metal/hardcore crowds. Sure it's just a "few bad apples" but that shit makes the news, and whether yr booking Obriens, the Middle East, Great Scott, or Axis or Bill's, if you put on the show, you're pretty much answering to SOMEBODY if something happens. So life sucks metalheads. When Exhumed plays the Middle East, all it might take is one stupid kid to hit a bouncer or some 15 year old kid to go home to his lawyer dad with a bloody nose from being in THE PIT and POOF once again ANOTHER venue in Boston doesn't want to deal with metal/hardcore. And before anyone says "Well Soulfly and Bane and Mastadon sound nothing alike blahblahblah" Guess what? IT DOES TO SOMEONE WITH A $5 MILLION DOLLAR INSURANCE POLICY ON A FUCKING NIGHTCLUB AND THE POSSIBILITY OF LOSING A LIQUOR LICENSE. [/QUOTE] well I think you bring up a few good issues. I'm willing to accept that there is the downside of more aggressive music in that it makes people act more outwardly, and, yes, sometimes poorly or even violent; but what is the downside of "indie rock/'honeypump art shit' "? Surely there is an up and a downside to everything -- what is the downside of that? and what is the upside of metal and hardcore? Another issue is one that Joe NotCommon has mentioned to me in person but never brought up on here, or, as far as I know, on honeypump; Why is there this approach in the HP sect that metal and hardcore aren't "art shit"? Why are metal and hardcore treated as the lower class? It would appear that, at least as I've heard it put by others, that that view is both snobbish and totally ignorant. There's plenty of art in any music, even bad music, but more importantly I can see what joe means -- it's always approached, at least from, again, the POV demonmstrated in the HP and even, I may go so far as to say, The Noise, sects that metal and hardcore are cheap, elementary forms of entertainment.[/QUOTE]
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