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NEMHF Day 1: Recap thread

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[Apr 28,2006 2:28pm - succubus ""]
Aaron asked me to make a new thread

we are here

don't post if you weren't here (he also asked me to type that) heh
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[Apr 28,2006 2:29pm - the_reverend ""]

alarum: (mainstage) I ran into these guys in the back yahd of the after the bombs show. I had heard people talking about liking the music, but not really liking the vocals. Those people must not like atheist or mastaine's vocals. That's what they sounded like. they shredded pretty hard on stage, but didn't move around that much. At the beginning of their set, there were only a few people in the front, but the end, there was probably 40-50 people watching. they were suppose to use Neuraxis's set for the tour. Thankfully, I think everyone here is using the same kit.

today i wait: (secondstage) there were surprisingly a lot of people up stages. They were metaly hardcore. Some clean vocals. The music was ok, but nothing new. The singer looked a lot like nate johnson.
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[Apr 28,2006 2:45pm - the_reverend ""]
absence, the: (mainstage) from florida. these guys ruled. It was totally swedish influence, but not over done. Some of it reminded me of the crown. They had an awesome presence on the stage too. Actually, the lighting was awesome for them. I hope it stays this good for the whole weekend. They are probably leaving it up for dragonforce or something.
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[Apr 28,2006 3:04pm - Mary ""]
Remember, I'm 5 mins away... *tee-hee*
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[Apr 28,2006 3:21pm - the_reverend ""]
arsis: (mainstage) they warmed up with a michael jackson song. The drummer is a fucking machine. I can see why people go gaga over him. they really packed in a lot of people downstairs. Surprising that there were this number of people into them and enjoying their set so early in the day/fest. The singer looked a lot like jason (misery index) back when he had long hair. though had played guitar and a purple guitar at that. His vocals were really hard to hear.

ligeia: (secondstage) suicide silence got moved up to 4:10 so ligeia set up. There were tons of kids up here too. A lot of the western mass kids were up front in some sort of most pit. They only sang along once that I saw, but I was only there for song and a half. It seemed like their set was wicked short. I was only down stairs for a couple minutes too.
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[Apr 28,2006 3:50pm - succubus ""]
Wooo demiricous is setting up downstairs and I just got hugs from my boys!
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[Apr 28,2006 4:14pm - anonymous  ""]
does the set time book say who tba is on saturday?
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[Apr 28,2006 4:20pm - the_reverend ""]
ed gein: (secondstage) I was addicted to that new CD when it came out. After all the times I've seen them, I ran upstairs long enough to yell "suck my dick." which was awesome enough for me.

scarlet: (mainstage) ok.. Did everyone from scarlet go back into spitfire? I didn't recognize them. They did upgrade their stage lights. They had tall NIN-ish lightboxes. it sounded a lot different and was missing that mechanical sound that the CDs have. there were samples so I don't know where the reset of the sound was.Their lightshow was good though. Quite blinding. The new singer is a freakin acrobat. I missed it but I guess he did 3 back flips.
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[Apr 28,2006 4:24pm - the_reverend ""]
suicide silence: (secondstage) ok, this is one of the most over hyped bands on the scene for a while and I would just like to say believe the fucking hype. They were awesome. If goratory became a grind, metalcore influenced band (i mean one that isn't burn in silence) it would be this band. The vocals were nasty and they packed the upstairs in tight with people. For some reason, the drummer had a slyzac mask on. I need to listen to some mp3.

demiricous: (mainstage) so they sign to metal blade and then all of a sudden look like amon amarth? I think this is the first time I've seen them since they played my radio show. The new drummer fit in perfectly with their music. They sounded awesome on this stage and all the people in the room were throwing them horns.
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[Apr 28,2006 4:35pm - Hooker nli  ""]
that's today? man.
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[Apr 28,2006 5:14pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
Did you see the McCrackster?!
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[Apr 28,2006 5:15pm - Sacreligion ""]
haha...nobody at our show down the street from the palladium tonight is gonna like us since all the metalheads are at said metalfest

whoops i posted without being there
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[Apr 28,2006 5:24pm - the_reverend ""]
neuraxis: (secondstage) didn't play due to van issues.

from a second story window: (secondstage) ew... clean vocals in the new stuff they play. I don't like that one bit.when I walked in I thought for a second that it was if hope dies. Dudecore's gotten shaggy. The crowd got into them more than any other band yet. Even Moe crowd surfed. I felt bad for whom ever was under him. I had to run out at thee end of their set, but I will assume it descended in to utter chaos, madness, doodness, hi-fives, piggy backs, kick flips and quite possible some fish in a place that you would not expect to find them. I heard that derek crack some small kids head open with his guitar.
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[Apr 28,2006 5:25pm - the_reverend ""]
nodes of ranvier: (mainstage) I had been wanting to see them after the first of the CDs I got. Though I didn't want to see them after the second. the drummer does their clean singing and is way more pronounced. They played mostly all heavier stuff today. Only towards the end did they head towards the pussy stuff.
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[Apr 28,2006 5:29pm - KeithMutiny ""]
succubus said:don't post if you weren't here (he also asked me to type that) heh




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NEMHF Version.
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[Apr 28,2006 5:31pm - Joe/NotCommon ""]
NotCommon Records grinds anything Mass Concerts does into the ground
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[Apr 28,2006 5:32pm - the_reverend ""]
dead to fall: (mainstage) pristine sound for them. Unfortunately for me, they played the songs I like when I was upstairs for. Jon spent most of the time out in the crowd and standing up on the railing in the front. The security guards loved that.

ringworm: (secondstage) I thought I was running up stairs for a perfect murder and instead caught part of one of the best bands around. A lot of the western mass kids were there in the front singing along. I kind of looks empty, but that is only cause the front constantly had people dancing. They sounded really powerful up on that stage. It's been way way way too long since I've seen them. Saddly, I promised I would go down stairs and watch the bags while carina made a phone call so I only caught a couple songs. Please, get them in brockton please.
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[Apr 28,2006 5:50pm - the_reverend ""]
if hope dies: (mainstage) lately, I've seen them in so many shitty places. Lately, it seems like they are on almost every tour possible. It was awesome to hear/see them in a venue where you could actually hear them. On stage, they were pretty much just head banding along like the last few times I've seen them except now the bassist wasn't standing in an immensely annoying red light (wher he usualy stands on the stage if youlook through the older pictures). For the last 3 songs, I watch from the balcony. Sounded awesome up here. the singer never went into the audience.

I just walked in the back way for the upstairs and wow.. sure does smell like CC's about to play. unholy chiva!
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[Apr 28,2006 7:01pm - the_reverend ""]
through the eyes of the dead: (mainstage) I was there for like 2 songs before getting yelled at to stop taking pictures. After my first encounter with them in a tiny american legion, it was weird seeing them up on a big stage.the sound was petty much spot on for them.
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[Apr 28,2006 7:03pm - the_reverend ""]
cephalic carnage: (secondstage) wow, it sure does smell like a ceephalic carnage show. They have a new bassplayer the bassist still did the singing parts that jawsh did, but wasn't quite the character that jawsh was. In the middle of their set, I ran down stairs and missed the fucking masks! Damn it. they sounded awesome even though they pulled most front the new CD. The front was all horns for them. Awesome to see them still getting respect and drawing crowds. Adam (goratory, aka: infant skin suitcase) was the happiest person in the world up front there with the songer from arsis. The ended with lucid interval. people yelled for more but they quickly shut down the second stage to let people into the balcony.
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[Apr 28,2006 7:05pm - the_reverend ""]
acacia strain, the: (mainstage) did I point this out before, seth has aquired the ability to spin his bass around his sholders. That is hilarious. For the entire set, the only person who went into the crowd was chris. they played their last song and both vincent and chris jumped out into the crowd. Chris made it with his guitar, ass first into the crowd. Vincent wasn't so lucky.. Or.. More to the point, the person he kneed in the face wasn't so lucky. They left the stage saying there was a special guest setting up... I didn't know who it was until I saw them setting up...
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[Apr 28,2006 7:18pm - Sacreligion ""]
way to leave us hangin rev
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[Apr 28,2006 7:20pm - the_reverend ""]
red chord, the: (mainstage) I looked up and saw them setting up. I thought WTF! I figured it was one of their side projects o something. They played 4 songs, black santa. Um. Something.. Clients.. And then finished with dreaming in dog years. Guy spent the entire time in the crowd and telling people to go see them play the QVCC on may 7th with ed gein.
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[Apr 28,2006 7:22pm - Sacreligion ""]
haha...i bet that show will draw 6x more than than my qvcc show...

hooray
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[Apr 28,2006 7:44pm - the_reverend ""]
still remains: (mainstage) the one and only time I saw them, they had a temp singer. The real singer was so much better with the crowd. He stood on the barricade a bunch of times and dove out into the crowd with out missing a beat. The music was too sing-songy so it wasn't my bag at all, but they covered NIN head like a hole which was cool... in theory. sounded weird hearing it done by them. I liked whem MBP covered that song better.
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[Apr 28,2006 8:18pm - succubus ""]
Ok.. So during the acacia strain...I got 2 mouthfulls of water on me and my camera...wtf? Both times ... I think his name was seth..well that left a bad taste in my mouth..so I said fuck u and left...I won't be posting the few pics I took either... Thought it was lame to do it to me twice...and gross...I took off and ran into adam goratory and jawshy..chatted for a bit and then josh asked me to hold his beer...then bumped into nate (demiricous singer) and we chatted for a while..then their mgr came up to us and nate introduced me as carina the best photographer..hehe..then their mgr told us that the red chord was going to play an impromptu set...3 songs....I wanted to tell aaron..but chatted for a while longer..then I went to run back to aaron but bumped into someone else...chatted some more and finally got back to aaron and I said "there's gonna be a surprise performance..." And he replied the red chord...dammit I took too long and they were already setting up..I hope that demiricous gets a permanent drummer! Their original drummer is going to tour europe with them, but that's it.
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[Apr 28,2006 8:20pm - the_reverend ""]
seth is the bassplayer (ex-DWD).

haste the day: (mainstage) this is take 2 for me with the new singer. He puts some more random lows that make me wonder if he's been listening to suicide silence. Standing up on the railing seems to be the order of the day for all these bands. Their set was typical from the songs I've seen them do.

In the bathroom, there is a last chance to reason flyer withquotes from people all over it... Why don't people quote me? Oh wait, they do.. and then it gets me in trouble.
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[Apr 28,2006 9:07pm - the_reverend ""]
necrophagist: (mainstage) oh man! they played stillborn one, epitaph, some old song I didn't know (it might have been onset of putrefaction). Fermented something or other. They played one more track that I thought was stillborn one but it wasn't (it was the first one). The sound was much better than you would have expected from this place, but you still could hear all the sweet arpegios. Still this was worth the wait. They were so good. I just hope I can see them again before they go back to europe. Are the rumors true.
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[Apr 28,2006 9:43pm - the_reverend ""]
a life once lost: (mainstage) they only played like one song that I really like. The singer was more sedate one stage then usual. He had 2 crates in the front that he stood up on, screaming and failing his head around. They announced that they've played 4 metalfests. I've seen them every time. I think this was a change up and they've played on the second stage every other time. At one point the singer was thrashing around like a jac-n-the-box on top of one of those crates, pretending to beat off and carina was right in front of him. I didn't know whether to laugh or warn her cause I don't think she saw what he was doing. During their last song, the singers for unearth and dead to fall ran out and sang, jon and trevor. The singer of alol was in the crowd at this point and as the song ended, the guitarist launched himself out on to the crowd with his guitar.
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[Apr 28,2006 10:01pm - anonymous  ""]
is day 2 sold out?
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[Apr 28,2006 10:26pm - hungtableed  ""]
fermented offal discharge.

Necrophagist is sick.
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[Apr 28,2006 11:10pm - i_am_not_me ""]
I'm very fucking depressed that I had to miss Alarum, The Absence, Arsis, and Necrophagist, but I could only afford to go two days, and I'm not passing up Dragonforce, and there's too many bands on Saturday that the lady likes. And we would've had to miss Alarum and the Absence. (And I could only get either Friday or Sunday off...and Dragonforce takes priority over all else.)
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[Apr 28,2006 11:17pm - Josh_hates_you ""]
the_reverend said:red chord, the: Guy spent the entire time in the crowd and telling people to go see them play the QVCC on may 7th with ed gein.



It's not on the events page so I don't believe it.
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[Apr 29,2006 12:07am - the_reverend ""]
wrong, with TRC, if it's not on their site, they aren't playing it and probably don't know about it.

ps: lacuna coil is taking so damn long to set up.
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[Apr 29,2006 12:13am - wakeoftears ""]
i_am_not_me said:I could only get either Friday or Sunday off...and Dragonforce takes priority over all else.


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[Apr 29,2006 12:16am - wakeoftears ""]
Black Dahlia and BTBAM? set lists perhaps?
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[Apr 29,2006 12:59am - the_reverend ""]
pictures uploading.
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[Apr 29,2006 2:59am - the_reverend ""]
cephalic carnage rules.
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[Apr 29,2006 3:23am - the_reverend ""]
between the buried and me: (mainstage) they sounded good and had a pretty long set. Would say that the sound was much better than that last tour they came on. trevor camed out with gun face and sang on the second to last song, a cover of territory (they are releasing an all covers album in jun I think.) there is a picture of the set list if you are so inclined.
On a sad note: someone in BTBAM's gf left her dog in her car on main st in worcester and the car with the dog was stolen. if anyone know anything about this or has information that could lead to the where-abouts of this dog, please contact this guy: http://www.mcgruff.org/
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[Apr 29,2006 3:57am - AUTOPSY_666 ""]
You should have gone to KC's Tap instead, Rev.

There was some blonde older lady sitting on the floor in front of the stage most of the night clicking a bunch of pictures.
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[Apr 29,2006 4:32am - inject-now ""]
ringworm would have ruled. everything else can suck a huge dick....

i'll probably be there today for ramallah if i wake up on time.
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[Apr 29,2006 8:22am - the_reverend ""]
ramallah isn't playing.
they cancelled.
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[Apr 29,2006 9:01am - tONY FROM Cadaveryne  ""]
the_reverend said:acacia strain, the: (mainstage) did I point this out before, seth has aquired the ability to spin his bass around his sholders. That is hilarious. For the entire set, the only person who went into the crowd was chris. they played their last song and both vincent and chris jumped out into the crowd. Chris made it with his guitar, ass first into the crowd. Vincent wasn't so lucky.. Or.. More to the point, the person he kneed in the face wasn't so lucky. They left the stage saying there was a special guest setting up... I didn't know who it was until I saw them setting up...


I was the person who got kicked in the face!
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[Apr 29,2006 9:48am - litacore ""]
I am there in spirit
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[Apr 29,2006 9:50am - Jayskin ""]
was every band using the house equipment?
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[Apr 29,2006 10:20am - the_reverend ""]
the same kit drum set for most bands on the mainstage.
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[Apr 29,2006 10:23am - the_reverend ""]
I just asked and they said the back line is the same for all the bands up until the headliners.
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[Apr 29,2006 10:24am - Jayskin ""]
thanks alot man, saves us a haul
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[Apr 29,2006 10:24am - the_reverend ""]
np
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[Apr 29,2006 10:40am - brian_dc ""]
AUTOPSY_666 said:You should have gone to KC's Tap instead, Rev.

There was some blonde older lady sitting on the floor in front of the stage most of the night clicking a bunch of pictures.




that's Lisa...she's a very nice lady.
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[Apr 29,2006 12:20pm - the_reverend ""]
between the buried and me: (mainstage) they sounded good and had a pretty long set. Would say that the sound was much better than that last tour they came on. trevor camed out with gun face and sang on the second to last song, a cover of territory (they are releasing an all covers album in jun I think.) there is a picture of the set list if you are so inclined.
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[Apr 29,2006 12:23pm - brian_dc ""]
hey rev, you already posted that review...plus a bit about a dog being stolen
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[Apr 29,2006 1:10pm - Dankill  ""]
BDM was awesome. I left before Coil and it looked like 90% of the crowd did too.
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[Apr 29,2006 1:51pm - paradigmdream ""]
that was a hell of a show. if anyone saw the guy wearing brown pants and a suicide silence shirt that was constantly running around and jumping and shit in the pit. that was me.

iwas like OMFG when red chord came out. that was pretty fucking awesome.

Necrophagist was amazing as well. incredible band
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[Apr 29,2006 5:47pm - mOe ""]
the_reverend said:

from a second story window: (secondstage) ew... clean vocals in the new stuff they play. I don't like that one bit.when I walked in I thought for a second that it was if hope dies. Dudecore's gotten shaggy. The crowd got into them more than any other band yet. Even Moe crowd surfed. I felt bad for whom ever was under him. I had to run out at thee end of their set, but I will assume it descended in to utter chaos, madness, doodness, hi-fives, piggy backs, kick flips and quite possible some fish in a place that you would not expect to find them. I heard that derek crack some small kids head open with his guitar.



the clean vocals are an ok addition in my opinion. I felt iffy about them at first, but Will does them very tastefully and has killer screaming vocals to back it up so i'm ok with it. It doesnt matter who this band plays with, they ALWAYS steal the show. I felt bad for the poor saps under me, heh.
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[Apr 29,2006 5:47pm - get fucked  ""]
day was AMAZING


me = asshole in the bright yellow shirt and baby blue hat
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[Apr 29,2006 5:49pm - mOe ""]
p.s. the new songs they played were awesome...sounded fucking huge even through the shitty Palladium sound system
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[Apr 29,2006 5:56pm - succubus ""]
Actually the sound was great everywhere
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[Apr 30,2006 12:23am - yummy  ""]
I feel like the only one saying but the sound was quiet and muddy. Almost every band had a very muffled effect to them. I was happy to hear the guitar solos from Necrophagist crystal clear.
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[Apr 30,2006 12:28am - pam at the DAYS INN  ""]
Necrophagist were great. This day was boring.
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[Apr 30,2006 1:43am - paradigmdream ""]
anyone going tomorrow?
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[Apr 30,2006 3:08am - the_reverend ""]
carina, pam, george, myself and some others
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[Apr 30,2006 10:01am - nicky_helliot  ""]
I heard Derek from "FASSW" got arrested. Can some one confirm this?
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[Apr 30,2006 11:01am - the_reverend ""]
I heard from one person that the police took him away.
I heard from another that he ran off to the kid who's head he split open's hospital room.

which is true? I don't know.
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[Apr 30,2006 11:35am - mOe ""]
i think the authorities said something to him, but he definitly went to the hospital with the kid who's head got split open. The kid didnt mind that much he's actually a big fan of the band and shit so it was all good in the hood Range Rover all wood, nah'm sayin
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[Apr 30,2006 4:56pm - anonymous  ""]
chris isn't in the band anymore.. its dan and dan on guitars
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[Apr 30,2006 6:56pm - succubus ""]
I have been sitting in the office every day of the fest..and I heard a bunch of cops stories from the cops themselves (all from this weekend)..and all I will say is that some people are too retarded for words.
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[Apr 30,2006 7:27pm - brian_dc ""]
anonymous said:chris isn't in the band anymore.. its dan and dan on guitars



what are you referring to?
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[Apr 30,2006 8:04pm - the_reverend ""]
he's reffering to the acacia strain. the second I posted that, I was like "fudge! I meant dan" text.returntothepit oesnt have the ability to edit posts and I've been so busy that I forgot to edit it. that is the second time I've posted calling dan (ex-BYD) chris. chris was TAS's 3rd gutarist who left.
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[Apr 30,2006 10:12pm - the_reverend ""]
Black Dahlia Murder: (mainstage) sooo the boys from BDM came back to worcester mass. They didn't seem as happy to be here as they normally do. New England has supposed them immensely. Heck 1/2 of the bands here rip thim for and claim they are influenced by carcass. anyhow, they dressed like the party guy from an 80's movie. Basically, they were all rodney dangerfield. trevor spent most of his time in the audience (there os evidence of a dude coping a major feel). With the insane amount of touring they do, they had time to wrote a new song. oh, the new drummer looks like blink182. when BDM finished, the place cleared out. I guessing over 600 people turned and left.
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[Apr 30,2006 10:22pm - the_reverend ""]
lacuna coil: (mainstage) well.. A lot of people jetted, but still played their set. The lack of people could also have had something to do with fact that they played here two weeks ago to a backed house. The lighting made it really hard to get a good shot of christina. I ran out when they played their radio hit.
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[May 1,2006 8:32am - SteveOTB ""]
I'm surprised that no one mention the fact that the guitarist of FASSW took his guitar case, put it on top of the crowd, stood on it while playing guitar for I Tried Voodoo Once, and then did a front flip into the crowd where no one caught him and he fell really hard. I heard some kid was pressing charges against the guitarist who spilt his head open and might sue. I also heard something about the kid needing his head stapled.
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[May 1,2006 1:54pm - brian_dc ""]
mOe said:i think the authorities said something to him, but he definitly went to the hospital with the kid who's head got split open. The kid didnt mind that much he's actually a big fan of the band and shit so it was all good in the hood Range Rover all wood, nah'm sayin


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[May 1,2006 1:59pm - the_reverend ""]
I wasn't in the room when that guitar case thing happened, but I heard it was awesome.
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[May 1,2006 2:28pm - SteveOTB ""]
the_reverend said:I wasn't in the room when that guitar case thing happened, but I heard it was awesome.


I wish you were Rev. I was hoping to see pictures of it seeing as how it's one of the most amazing and origional things I've ever seen a band do live. And I'm sure someone is going to bitch me out and say "how is that origional?" but IMO it was my favorite moment of the fest.
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[May 1,2006 2:32pm - the_reverend ""]
I would have seen it cause I ran down stairs, shot a couple shots of a band and then sat down thinking fassw would be done. the band stopped and I heard FASSW still playing so I ran up stairs and they were walking off the stage.
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[May 1,2006 2:35pm - SteveOTB ""]
Eh I don't blame you, you basically did 3 days of running around so it's understandable. Definately an awesome moment though. There was like a million photographers there so someone had to get something.
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[May 1,2006 6:32pm - anonymous  ""]
FASSW-
What happened with the kid getting hit: Derek throw his guitar into the crowd, he ran up and kicked it. The headstock cracked some kid in the head. The kid left and went to the hospital. Derek was talked to by the staff and police but that was more to warn him what COULD have happened (someone being more seriously injured, him being sued, etc.)

Derek then left and stayed with the kid at the hospital while he got patched up. He was no also no allowed back in the building so he slept most of the day in the van. The kid who got wacked went back to the show. Everything is fine.
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[May 1,2006 6:54pm - mOe nli  ""]
fuck the guitar case surfboard, rev shoulda been in there for my guest vocals!
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[May 1,2006 8:01pm - the_reverend ""]
moe guest vocalist for FASSW? never seen that happen.
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[May 1,2006 8:58pm - SteveOTB ""]
mOe that was you who picked Derek and put him on the guitar case?
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[May 1,2006 9:05pm - the_reverend ""]
moe was the only black dude there. DwD shirt
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actually, around here, moe's pretty much the only black dude whenever the show is. though, if you go to NJ, there are 3 moes.
Maxi-Moe (I think he's now in the band cipher)
Moe (I think he's in every band)
Mini-Moe (I think he's in a band, but I forget)

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