Χάος[views:19468][posts:28]_______________________________ [Sep 24,2006 9:15pm - Troll ""] The Black Force of Pan. From ancient Gnosticism to the Darkness of Pan. THE ancient Gnostics strove only toward spiritual knowledge, in a better word - gnosis (Hellenic for knowledge). The Gnostics thought that the physical universe is in itself evil, and that it is a creation of an evil god. Essential to most of the Gnostic schools is the idea of Yahweh being the evil creator, considering the Judaic cosmogony, the creator of the physical universe, and therefore identified as the evil demiurge. Humanity was also believed to been created by the evil Demiurge Ialdabdoth/Yahweh, and as soon as the Demiurge animated the humans the battle between the light of spirit and the darkness of matter in human existence began. AND in the Chao-Gnostic way of thinking, Lucifer, bringer of the Black Flame, provide the humans with a black link back to Chaos, so that the Demiurge can't control all in his false creation, just the weak that don't experiences their Black Flame. And the Black Flames in the depths of the human souls are lit by the thought and understanding of the dark Gnosis. And this understanding is like a mental plague. The key to Chao-Gnosis is sacred words, which are dark reflectios of Chaos, descanting from mind to mind like darkness during sunset. People are trying to protect themselves from this mental plague with Yahweh's preaching of lies, but no can do. Their fear is the obvious proof of that they are contaminated by this plague. We call it to be struck by terror, overwhelmed by panic. In simple words, the mind have summoned Pan. And this is where Pan is connected with the Darkness of Chaos. Pan, the wielder of mental deathplague and destructor of light of spirit. PAN; Preceptor of Perdition, Prince of Darkness, Yahweh's Ensnarer. PAN; Preceptor of Perdition, whom infect everything in his way, with the magical intelligence of darkness. A spiritual intelligence which convey self-destruction to the cosmic forces and matter. PAN is one of the oldest gods upon earth. And we know how a rumour circulates in a month (just take the bible for instance!). So if the wrathful dragon-god Pan has been developped into the roguish wood-daemon Grimalkin or the bashful flute-playing kid, who artists have loved to paint in all eras, but mostly during the Romanticism of the late 18th and early 19th centuries, from have been one amongst Chaos Black Oceans, is not some kind of surprise for me. No, for me, it feels like a natural development in the human chronicles and stories (even more the human mind, this frenzied god is not easy to put up with nor understand!) When I summon the enraged god Pan we talk, without putting much weight on names. Have one awoken the Black Flames of Chaos within oneself, one will recognize the force as achieved, whether one calls it Pan or Grimalkin, Sylvanus or Faunus. Chaos Black Powers have their own tongue. TO live with Pan, the irate God of Chaos, has the ends to uphold Chaos Black Flames and to gather all dark souls, so that with Black Magic open up the cosmic gates so that Chaos Black Oceans can flood and drain the Demiurge's filthy and flase creation. To do this means that we will be free again in the dark regions of Chaos, the All. THAT is why I have dedicated my flesh-bound life to Pan, the mocking joker that spit misanthropy and death in the face of the light of spirit and life. Ecce Pentacvlvm Panis, qvod ante vestram addvxi præsentiam! Et per hoc præsens Pentaculum, quod super vos potenter imperat! PAN; the rogue is unleashed in universe, to torment and misguide life so that it creates its own destruction. He is never made of flesh and blood, instead, he leaves pestilence as fingerprints in the human mind, which transmit contagion to the flesh of its own accord. He conjure terror and anguish which absorbs by the thought, and the thought get defiled by the vast nature of darkness and re-create a personal darkness which dig ones own grave. He lures the credulous with cunning and mockery. He calls himself the horned Yahweh and gape his infernal mouth so that pestilence in the form of frozen gloom swathe and ensnare the human mind and thoughts, till an empty dying vessel falls back into the false reality called life. He is uncontrollable. He is wrath. He brandish his mighty staff, anti-clockwise, and releases confusion and disorder. He laughs at suffering and death, for it makes him blithe. He dreams of corpses and withered roots, carbonized suns and life consigned to oblivion. HE has only one will, the destruction of Yahweh and to get Yahweh's world absorbed by Chaos. So, as a Chao-Gnostic pestilent thought and god, he has only good ends. To live with Pan, is to live in tranquillity with the true Chaos, Emptiness, Darkness. Shamaatae Af Areldom MCMXCII - MMII. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 24,2006 9:26pm - Greenburgstein ""] ANTI SEMITE !!!!!! |
| _______________________________________________ [Sep 24,2006 9:30pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] Ave Satan, Hail Lucifer |
| _______________________________ [Sep 24,2006 9:54pm - Troll ""] The Misanthropic Luciferian Order is a Sweden-based (also has strong holds in Norway and Holland) anti-cosmic Satanic/Luciferian order that follows the neo-gnostic, satanic current (218 current). One of their better known books is Liber Azerate: The Book of Wrathful Chaos (currently only available in Swedish and Norwegian), on which they base many of their believes and rituals. Liber Azerate is written by MLOs grandmaster Magister Nemidial. About MLO is a Chaos-Gnostic Order that seeks the true Light of Lucifer through the study, development and practice of all forms of dark, gnostic and Satanic Magical systems. Their goals are to create a synthesis between the dark traditions of all the ancient aeons and thus to create the occult keys that shall open the gates to the forthcoming endless dark aeon. Followers of MLO study and practice all mysteries of the Left Hand Path, but their official and main directions are three primary dark paths which the Order consider to be the most potent. These three dark paths are: The Draconian Setianism The Sumerian Chaos-Gnosticism The Kliffotic (Anti-) Kabbalah All of these three religious, philosophical and black magical systems are, in the form in which they are practiced within the MLO, Anti-Cosmic and have the function of bringing disharmonic Chaotic energies into Cosmos, thus speeding up the evolution that leads the creation back to the formless Chaos that it descends from. MLO identifies the Cosmos (the formed and settled universe) as the creation of the foolish demiurge and as the prison where the Black Flames, that are parts of the primaeval Chaos, are kept imprisoned. The Black Flame is the pre-cosmic, non-created spirit and is the power that burns inside the illuminated and the strong which makes them seek themselves back to the pandimensional Chaos, which is the origin of all things. The most important goal of MLO is therefore the liberation of the inner Black Flames through the transcending of the limitations of the time and space-bound Cosmos. This Anti-Cosmic transcending can only be reached through the awakening, strengthening and the raising of the Black Flame, or the Black Dragon, that lies dormant in the souls of the strong. This raising of hidden (dark) potential can only be reached through the receiving of Gnosis, i.e. knowledge. This knowledge/gnosis is synonymous to The Torch of Lucifer, Prometheus’ Fire, Samyaza’s Gift, The Black Fire of Ahriman, The Venom of Taninsam, The Smokeless Fire of Typhon and the Philosopher’s stone of the Alchemists. The MLO has also roots in (besides the Sumerian cults of Tiamat, kliffotic anti-kabbala and the draconian Set-Typhonic traditions) dark witchcraft, persian Ahriman and Div worship, traditional diabolism, goetic demonolatry, heretic gnostic sects like the Cainites and Ophites, and certain vedic forms of spirituality. MLO use Esoteric kliffotic magic and view The Dark Gods as the forces of Wrathful Khaos and work with their energies in order to dissolve the false Ego and transcend all limitations of matter, time, space and causality. MLO view Satan as a force that works within the Elect but exists outside the creation/cosmos, in that which have been named "The outer Darkness" or Sitra Ahra/The other or Dark Side. Fireborn & Clayborn The tradition tells us there are two kind of people on this earth. One is the Clayborn (matter without spirit), these are 99.99% of all humans. And the second group are The Fireborn (the people of divine fire, the awakened ones). These are the pneumatics, those who have the divine flame burning inside. You can say that these "qualities" are inherited. The first group are the people of the world of matter that belong to the forms of the physical plane. The second group are the people of the spirit that are from beyond the cosmic plane but have been trapped in the world of matter. The first worship the Demiurge as their God and Creator. The second group see the demiurge as their enemy and enslaver, that have trapped them in vessels of clay (the restricting body and mind of man). One belongs to one side or the other. There is no salvation for the blind man (the hylics) for they are part of the illusion that keeps the Man of Fire enslaved. The only ones that can be saved are the few amongst the Elite that have drunk from the waters of "Lethe" and forgotten their own True Origin. That is why orders like MLO exist, not to find new members but to find their old brothers and sisters. The MLO believes in reincarnation and that the memories are taken away from you after each life (to drink from Lethe) so that you lose your way and your wisdom. But only the ego changes form from each death to life, but the inner core of the spirit (or self) remembers everything and have all the answers one needs. Through spiritual work you may reach back through the Gates Within and take part of all the wisdom that the Demiurge isn't capable of erasing. The aim of the tradition is to help others of the same "blood" to remember their selves and join in the war against the lie of cosmos and the illusions of the Demiurge. The idea of these three races is closely paralleled in other systems, as in the Yogic conception of the Tamas, Rajas and Sattva; the Tantric conception of the three types of humans: Pashu-bhâva Vîra-bhâva Divya-bhâva in the Manichaean conceptions of the profane (matter, body), the Hearers (soul) and the Elect (Light, Spirit). The Pneumatic individual possesses the Sperma Pneumatikon (The Seed of Spirit), The Black Flame, and the knowledge of the Plêrôma. The Pneumatic is destined for salvation from the final destruction of the manifested universe (Day of Wrath or Dies Irae), regardless of his or her behavior. Therefore one may be both lawless and immoralized, without risking any "punishment". The Hylic (clayborn) dwell in the utter darkness of materialistic ignorance, and are destined for destruction. The Hylic are entirely composed of illusory, transitory matter, and will vanish along with all the other illusions at the restoration of the Plêrôma (The Fullness of Chaos). The Psychic, he who is between the clayborn and The Fireborn, is situated half way between the Pneumatic and the Hylic, and possesses free will. Salvation (Gnosis) for the Psychic is a matter of choice, of right aspiration, and of faith (and of WILL, his own will and the WILL of The Lucifer, who is the Giver of Gnosis). So in the case of those that are "the hearers" (those in between clay and fire) it is a war in order to join one side or the other. In satanism "the hearers" are sometimes called "those with the slumbering spark". Azerate 218 Azerate is a formulae for the number eleven in this context. 11 as the Qliphothic antithesis of cosmic Ten. Azerate is the hidden name of the Anti-cosmic gods, and is the key to the locked gates of the dark dimensions. Azerate is the name of the eleven Anti-cosmic powers mentioned within both the Sumerian Chaos-Gnosticism and the Qliphothic Cabbala. The Anti-cosmic powers who fight against the tyranny of the cosmic order, which number is 10, is usually described as eleven separate demonic forces, each one counteracting the cosmic impulse from their own direction. Under the name of Azerate, the eleven Anti-cosmic powers unite and transform into one, symbolized by the eleven-headed black dragon, whose all-dissolving powers are concentrated further and thus even stronger. It is when the eleven ones unite and become Azerate, that they with their united efforts can turn the keys to the locked portals and break through the cosmic barriers. Azerate is the wholeness of the Anti-cosmic current that with its chaotic fires burns black holes in the cosmic barriers preparing for the complete invasion of cosmos by the Wrathful Chaos. Azerate is a formulae for the number eleven in this context. Eleven (11) as the Qliphothic antithesis of cosmic Ten. The number of Azerate is 218. The name/word Azerate (Azrat) have through gematria (a system of numerology) the numerical value of 218, and 218=11 and Azerate happens to be the collective name of the Eleven forces of Qliphoth/anti-cosmic Khaos. So it is not only some random numbers that add up to eleven. It is the number of the value of the letters in the name/word Azerate (Azrat). 11 can stand for many things but when it is 11 through the 218 formulae it only stand for the anti-cosmic current. Azerate is the essence of eleven in an anti-cosmic context. MLO use the formuale zazas zazas nasatanada zazas = 11 x a. Eleven Alpha/Aleph Vibrations that activate the angles of the sigil (The Eleven Angled Sigil) that holds the essence of Azerate and The Anti-cosmic Current. This sigil, the word Azerate and the number 218 is, according to them, the path, gate and key to the Khaos of Sitra Ahra. "Chavajoth" is the traditional Kabbalistic name for that which MLO calls Azerate. On an exoteric level Chavajoth´s essence is the Nightside reflection of the Demiurge and therefore his antithesis. YHWH is the tetragramaton = "the name with four letters" which is the name of the demiurge within the kabbalistic system. Each of the four letters of his name represents one of the four elements of creation: Earth/Physical, Water/Astral, Air/Mental and Fire/Spiritual. these four elements are part of the demiurge and it is through these forming of the elements that the cosmic order and creation is established. The demiurge himself who is the tetragramaton is the power that shaped the four elements and who keeps them together. In some way the demiurge act as a quintessence to the cosmic elements (the fifth that binds the other four and manifestes through them). The reflection/antithesis of all this in Sitra Ahra takes the form of the tetragramaton reversed = HWHY which according to some tradition is pronounced as "Chavajoth". This Chavajoth is the anti-cosmic god of the realm of Kliffot. Chavajoth is not only Satan but all the powers that runs through the four Dark Elements of the Night side. That is all the gods that exist on the different kliffotic planes that rule over the Shadow side of the physical, astral,mental and spiritual realms. Exotericly the Chavajoth is manifested through the Shadow Side of the number Four (4), but esotericly Chavajoths essence is manifested through the number 11, and this identify it as the same power or consept that is called Azerate. Taninsam Lilith Taninsam is the name of Ama Lilith (Dark Mother Lilith) in her Dragon aspect or Ophitic aspect. Under the name Taninsam she is "the poisonous Dragon serpent" and is seen as the most ancient manifestation of Lilith that is connected to The Mother of Night Side/Sitra Ahra. The name Taninsam connect her also to the serpent of Wisdom who´s Poison burns away the illusions of Sephirotic existence. Tanin= Dragon/Serpent and Sam (Persian "Sämm")= Poison also identify her as the female of Samael who´s name means "The Poison of a God" or "The God of Poison", which is the the Ophitic aspect of Satan-Lucifer when manifested as The Serpent of The Tree of Daath/Death. So Taninsam is Lilith in her Dargon and "crone" aspect and is the central power and Dark Force in Kliffotic initiations, for it is her poison that one drink in order to kill the "Dayside/sephirotic Ego" and make strong the Ahrimanic/Satanic Shadow that is the Hidden Self. Taninsam´s poison is the Elixir that kills that which is weak in order to make way for the forbidden truth, gnosis and power. MLO view Taninsam as The Bringer of Azerate Gnosis, which is the gnosis of The Elevenfold Wrathful Kaos. Also the connection of Sämm or Sam/Samm and blindness does not exist within our traditon. Some people have confused Taninsam with "Tanin'iver" which is "The Blind Serpent Force". Tanin-iver means Blind Dragon but Tanin-Sam means The Poisonous Dragon and is something else. Taniniver is the Force that when fully awakned will unite Taninsam-Lilith with Samael-Satan and bring forth the victory of The Nightside that the YHVH wanted to stop by blinding the Dragon with his illusory "light".... Like kundalini in Muladhara Taniniver is "blinded" or "sleeping" but when awakned and empowered the Serpent of Black Fire Taniniver ascends through the gates until His Eye opens in the Ajna sphere or gate (this sphere is called within our system "Abbadon" as the Eye of The Destroyer is opened here). When the once blinded serpents eye is opened he then unites Lilith below with Satan above and unites and concentrate the nightside forces and manifest the kliffotic Samarasya that we call Azerate (The Eleven Headed Dragon). So Taninsam and Taniniver are two different consepts that both are of great importance within The Great Work that aims to open the paths within and without to The Black Light. The Three Dark Veils Before Satan And The Black Light Gnosis 000-Tohu- Chaos: Qemetiel "Crown of Gods" 00-Bohu- Emptiness: Beliaal "Without God" 0-Chasek- Darkness: Aathiel "Uncertainty" These are "The Three Powers (or Dark Veils) Before Satan" and are within our tradition seen as the three Forces that came out of Ain Sof in order to make way for the manifestation of The BLACK LIGHT in The Outer Darkness that became Sitra Ahra. These three powers can be seen as the Burning Trident held high above the Thaumitan/Twoheaded Master of Thaumiel. These three powers can also be viewed as Wrathful Reflections of Ain, Ain Sof and Ain Sof Aur, and as the Three steps from Sitra Ahra back to the womb of Tehom/Tiamat or to The Mystery Unmanifested (ie. The Primal Chaos). We view Sitra Ahra as "The Universe B" or "The Nightside". NOT as the "Nightside of Eden", but as The Nightside of Ain Sof´s Emanation, established by The Black Light or The Left Light called "Or She-ein bo mahshavah", which means “The Light Without Any Thought Of Creation”. The meaning of Universe A and Universe B within our tradition is the following ; "Universe A" = Universe of 1 or 10 (A=1, 1=10), which is the universe of Cosmic Order, Law, statis and causality. As the 1=10 is the closed circle so is this Universe A closed and separated from the pandimesional divine power. “Universe B” = Universe of 2 or 11 (B=2, 2=11), which is the Universe of the Counter Light or divine antithesis, lawlessness, dynamic becoming and acausality. This we see in the number of the letter B which is 2. And 2 is the number of Thaumitan/Thaumiel, the thesis and antithesis which create the synthesis (instead of the stagnation and statis of the number 1), the broken circle/spiral leading back and connected to The Unmanifested and The Pandimensional. 2 is also in this context the shadowless shadow and The Avenger or The Liberator of that which is bound by 1 (one) within the Universe A. Within our Order exists The Temple of The Black Light, which is dedicated to the channeling, manifesting and strengthening of this anti-cosmic impulse of the primal pandimensional force within the “Universe A”. Lucifer is from this point of view an aspect of "Chavajoth" (whose true name and number is of the essence of 11) that is the bringer of this Black Light of Sitra Ahra. Lucifer, for us, have got nothing to do with any Roman god, the planet Venus or the element of Air. Lucifer is a word and not a name. Lucifer is The Bringer of Light, the light of Or She-ein bo Mahshavah! Those who seek The Mystey Unmanifested will be illuminated by this Black Light, those who do not have the essence of Sitra Ahra within them (ie, The Black Flame) will see nothing but The Terror of Darkness! Lucifer´s light will forever be darkness in the eyes of the Blind.... The Light of Lucifer is the Gnosis/Daath that is the Gate to Sitra Ahra. And in Sitra Ahra are the paths to The Mystery Unmanifested, BEYOND The Crown of The Dark Gods... This is also the goal of Satan himself; to destroy the restrictions/forms/manifestations of the Sefirotic emanations from Ain Sof, so that he Himself also can become free to return to The Womb of The Dragon. The YHVH (Demiurge) seeks separation from and manifestation outside The Ur-Kaos, but Satan exists only in order to return All (himself included) to that same Kaos! We who share this Will of The God Satan are Satanists and therefore Luciferians (Lucifer IS Satan). One can therefore say that “The Three Dark Veils Before Satan” are the tripple manifestation of The Wrathful Kaos (which emanated from Ain Sof), before the manifestation of the Kliffot and the Tree of Death. The essence of The Black Light manifest itself through these three dark veils of anti-existence within Thaumiel (the first Kliffa) as the Two-Headed God (or as "The Twins of The Unmanifested God"). As for which head of the Thaumiel is turned towards where, we sometimes say that Moloch is the one with his face turned down towards the lower Kliffot (and the world) and it is Satan who is looking back up to "The Kaos Unmanifested", that he ever seeks to return to. We therefore say that "The fires of Moloch burn before The Throne of Satan". The fires of Moloch are the final cleansing for "The Sitra Ahra Adept", before He/She gets to face The Master Satan/The First Head and The God of the Elevenfold Kliffot and Wrathful Kaos! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The TERM "Or She-ein bo mahshavah" is from the teachings of Natahan of Gaza, but the idea and concept of this Black Light can be found within many other esoteric teachings and dark traditions. Gerschom Scholem have written: "The thoughtless lights (Black Light), build structures of their own, Demonic worlds of the Kelippot whose sole intent is to DESTROY what the thoughtful light (ie. The White or Right Light) has wrought. These forces are called "Serpents (Dragons) dwelling in The great Abyss". The Satanic Powers, called in Zohar "Sitra Ahra" (The Other or Dark Side), are non other than the other (left) side of Ein-sof itself". Noore Siyahe Ahrimän, is the same concept as The Black Light, within the Persian system and can be found within all the anti-cosmic forms of esotericism. One can also recognize these kinds of ideas in some forms of Gnosticism, as in the traditions of the Luciferians, Ophites and the Cainites. Out of The Pleroma comes the fallen impulse which restricts the fullness of The Divine Unmanifested and Alien God/Goddess. But out of the same source comes also the emanations that are anti-demiurgic in essence and have as their aim to return the stolen sparks of Pneuma (for us "The Black Flames") back to the Acausal and Pandimesional realm of The Dark Divine. These forces that work against the illusory forms and laws of the cosmic creation act as Satan against the Demiurge and his Archons, and they bring the forbidden Black Light of The True God, to thos few who have ears to hear with and eyes to see the truth that they reveal. From the cosmic perspective these anti-cosmic forces are demonic and evil, but the Truth is that they are the Angels of The Left Light/Black Light of The Unknown God. In Tantrism Samhara Rakta Kali is the manifestation of this Black Light who acts as The Left Emanation of Parashakti (The Transcendent Power) that returns every thing back to the womb of The Dark Mother. But in Kliffotic Kabbala (The Kabbala of Satan) one always follows the path of The Black Light through the Sitra Ahra. For to climb the "tree of life" will not open the gates to that which is Beyond. For this “tree” have as function to separate itself from that Ur-Kaos of The Unmanifested, in order to manifest. But the Function of The Tree of Daath/Death is to bring All back to that acausal primal source which we strive to become as one with. The Ego seeks separation in this demiurgic fashion, but The Self or The Black Flame/Pneuma seeks the Pandimensional/Acausal state of Allpotential beyond the restrictions and post was too long read more at your own risk |
| ________________________________________________ [Sep 24,2006 10:13pm - coldnorthernvengeance ""] Eat, Fuck, Kill there ya go, nice and easy |
| ______________________________________________ [Sep 24,2006 10:24pm - DrinkHardThrashHard ""] Don't forget to sleep though, in between some of that. |
| ________________________________ [Sep 24,2006 10:37pm - Troll ""] "The Fireborn (the people of divine fire, the awakened ones). " I live amongst puppets. I didn't need to read this to know that. Kinda makes me really question,"Am I an Elitist?". The answer would have to be "Yessss I fucking am" but, even then I only manipulate people I would consider "Fireborn" to achieve what earthly things I desire. Really I'm so self absorbed that I don't even care about the life of the true-thinker. I don't give a fuck about anyone. I weave webs and create bridges and for what? To endulge in some kind of shallow cereberal pleasure while I flounder through a painful mundane existence? I guess this makes me a two-faced motherfucker that could drop you like a bad habit at any moment. Well, am I really glad to share this self-realisation with you cretins? It doesn't matter cause none of you exist. I toast to me! God of my world! nowI'm gonna drink myself to life Arlalalaalalargrgr |
| ______________________________ [Sep 24,2006 10:59pm - Dar ""] I was reading all this about the MLO a little while ago Some ideas are interesting and seem worth pursuing, but I don't really understand the appeal of terms like "The Fireborn" and all this shit about dragons and black flames. It doesn't help that most of the websites devoted to this kind of thing look like Starcraft clan pages circa 1998. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 25,2006 2:10am - Anti-Racism ""] If you follow this dark and occult path, you will end up heiling hitler in a motel room while drunk on diesel-tasting generic vodka. |
| _______________________________ [Sep 25,2006 5:26am - Troll ""] Way it goes in the Age Of Cynicism. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 25,2006 1:54pm - Anti-Racism ""] Truly, the world does seem to be ending. If we could just stop racism and hate, maybe the climate would not collapse and overpopulation doom us all. |
| __________________________________ [Sep 25,2006 2:11pm - espresso ""] Anti-Racism said:Truly, the world does seem to be ending. If we could just stop racism and hate, maybe the climate would not collapse and overpopulation doom us all. you can't stop these things until you understand them. Without understanding it will only bring about new hate, new "ism's" and new issues. Besides, destruction is needed in order for something to be rebuilt, and endings are needed for beginnings. Simple as that. It's the law of nature. As for this interesting read... well, I'll have to continue reading it later on after gulping down a couple of red bulls. My eyes are all blurry at the moment. It does hold some interesting points though. |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 25,2006 3:05pm - Anti-Racism ""] espresso said:you can't stop these things until you understand them. Without understanding it will only bring about new hate, new "ism's" and new issues. Besides, destruction is needed in order for something to be rebuilt, and endings are needed for beginnings. Simple as that. It's the law of nature. Well, I can't argue with that. But if destruction is the goal, must we embrace evil in order to have good? |
| ______________________________ [Sep 25,2006 3:28pm - Yeti ""] yes, for you cannot have one without the other. |
| _________________________________________ [Sep 25,2006 3:30pm - SacreligionNLI ""] there would be no basis of comparison i say fuck all this spirituality crap im just going to enjoy my time to the best of my ability ;) OoOoO raining blood just started on my I-Pod |
| _______________________________________________ [Sep 25,2006 4:07pm - Coldnorthernvengeance ""] Anti-Racism said:Truly, the world does seem to be ending. If we could just stop racism and hate, maybe the climate would not collapse and overpopulation doom us all. Your an idiot, you cannot stop hatred It is inherent in man Let things spiral downwards Let it all crash and burn there is no turning back now Only nihilism, misanthropy, and hate is real |
| __________________________________ [Sep 25,2006 4:53pm - espresso ""] Anti-Racism said:espresso said:you can't stop these things until you understand them. Without understanding it will only bring about new hate, new "ism's" and new issues. Besides, destruction is needed in order for something to be rebuilt, and endings are needed for beginnings. Simple as that. It's the law of nature. Well, I can't argue with that. But if destruction is the goal, must we embrace evil in order to have good? As Yeti said, there is no good without evil. You cannot have the cake and eat it too. Good and evil are both a part of the balance. Doesn't matter if it's sprititual or not. In reality I don't believe in good or evil. If we want a new world, there has to be destruction first... |
| _____________________________________ [Sep 25,2006 5:21pm - Anti-Racism ""] Wasn't the Holocaust enough destruction for you? Or Darfur? Or the gassing of the Kurds? |
| _______________________________ [Sep 25,2006 9:16pm - Troll ""] ^ |
| _____________________________ [Sep 25,2006 9:51pm - Dar ""] Anti-Racism said:Wasn't the Holocaust enough destruction for you? Or Darfur? Or the gassing of the Kurds? no! 6 million? pfft! think big! |
| ___________________________________ [Sep 25,2006 11:55pm - espresso ""] Anti-Racism said:Wasn't the Holocaust enough destruction for you? Or Darfur? Or the gassing of the Kurds? Not really talking about that kind of destruction. but what the hey... if you want to be a stubborn ass and not even try to understand what I'm saying, it's your choice. :swedenflag: |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 13,2008 1:30am - anonymous ""] Misantropi and satanic represent the path of a warrior chaos in this world full of failed it seems most do not know the subject matter |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 23,2008 9:43am - Noctambulant ""] Interesting post Shamaatae, though I have read it before on the T.O.T.B.L site. I am also a practitioner of the black arts. In the text you wrote that M.L.O/T.O.T.B.L is established in Sweden/Norway and Holland, but I heard that M.L.O Holland no longer exist.( Or is now become more secretive in order to seperate the real from the so-called wannabe's) So my question is if you have any more information about this matter, so that I in someway get in contact with them. And when will panparadox be available? And for the last question. Do you know if T.O.T.B.L will publish Liber Azerate in english or maby in dutch? Ave |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 23,2008 4:43pm - Conservationist ""] RACITS!!1! |
| ______________________________________ [Sep 26,2009 1:56pm - DARK THRONE ""] WHAT A FUCKTARD Troll said:"The Fireborn (the people of divine fire, the awakened ones). " I live amongst puppets. I didn't need to read this to know that. Kinda makes me really question,"Am I an Elitist?". The answer would have to be "Yessss I fucking am" but, even then I only manipulate people I would consider "Fireborn" to achieve what earthly things I desire. Really I'm so self absorbed that I don't even care about the life of the true-thinker. I don't give a fuck about anyone. I weave webs and create bridges and for what? To endulge in some kind of shallow cereberal pleasure while I flounder through a painful mundane existence? I guess this makes me a two-faced motherfucker that could drop you like a bad habit at any moment. Well, am I really glad to share this self-realisation with you cretins? It doesn't matter cause none of you exist. I toast to me! God of my world! nowI'm gonna drink myself to life Arlalalaalalargrgr:bartnormal::bartnormal: |
| ____________________________________________ [Sep 27,2009 3:26am - Conservationist11 ""] I am happy religions exist, they provide folks with ample material to cut and paste. They also work like bug zappers -the kind with the blue-ish light, but for people instead of bugs. Luckily, there as many types of zappers as there are bugs -soon, we shall be quite rid of bugs. |
| _______________________________________ [Sep 27,2009 10:53am - goatcatalyst ""] I miss the old days when I would dip my white fez in the stream of Christian blood coursing through the streets to prove I participated in the massacre. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 24,2011 8:32pm - anonymous ""] What happend to the TOTBL website |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 24,2011 11:13pm - man o warski ""] scsxcxscsc |