Anti-virus program help
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[May 23,2007 1:26am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Can anyone recommend me good anti-virus programs? I need an update to my computer. The Sophos Anti-virus program I have is expired.
[May 23,2007 8:52am - SteveOTB ""]
AVG Anti-Virus works well and....IT'S FREE!
[May 23,2007 10:50am - metal_church101 ""]
AVG is the best free stuff you can get.
I use Norton Internet Security along with Webroot Spysweeper. It's not free, but you get what you pay for.
[May 23,2007 10:55am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
metal_church101 said:you get what you pay for.
That's what I say when people ask how AVG is. ;-P
[May 23,2007 10:59am - anonymous ""]
don't use anti-virus software - never had any problems.
stop being an noob instead.
[May 23,2007 11:04am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
Although I'd agree that just wising up a little to how malware infections happen is the best form of prevention, I just can't condone the use of the word "noob".
[May 23,2007 5:05pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Thanks guys.
[May 23,2007 5:14pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
I'd be more than happy to offer some serious suggestions if I had them. I really don't know, though. Honestly, all the products out there right now seem to dissapoint me. :( Sorry dude.
[May 23,2007 5:33pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Nah, it's all good. I just downloaded the AVG.
[May 23,2007 11:00pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
I need to give AVG another shot I think. Maybe they've gotten better.
[May 23,2007 11:53pm - sxealex ""]
get linux. if u need to game... then dual boot and dont use your webbrowser. then u will NEVEr have to worry about a virus. plus ull be cool.
[May 23,2007 11:53pm - sxealex ""]
* i mean dont use your windows webbrowser
[May 23,2007 11:54pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
I deal with Linux quite a bit, but I'd never be able to use it as my main desktop OS. I'm not sure why. That's just me, though.
[May 23,2007 11:56pm - sxealex ""]
u probably deal with old supported stuff at work maybe?
[May 23,2007 11:57pm - sxealex ""]
honestly i recommend you install ubuntu or something... or at least read up on some of the latest shit... its about to blow away every os. shits going up exponetially.
[May 23,2007 11:58pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
It's mostly fedora core 5, ubuntu, and suse 10.
[May 23,2007 11:59pm - sxealex ""]
we just need to build a better desktop for it to work with the beryl/ compiz shit. it needs to all be one project.
[May 23,2007 11:59pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
I remember looking at Ubuntu and not being too impressed. I didn't tweak the GUI at all though, so maybe I didn't give it enough of a shot.
[May 24,2007 12:01am - sxealex ""]
really??? have u tried fedora 6 its a huge step up. im surprised u don tlike suse 10... although i never tried opensuse till 10.1
[May 24,2007 12:07am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
I don't think I've tried FC6. I'll have to check it out. I think my main turnoff with Linux was basically that I just have everything so customized in windows already. I strip down explorer (GUI) so it's pretty plain looking and use a lot of keyboard shortcuts to get around. I use my mouse as little as possible. But when I do use the mouse, I have it all tricked out with the 5 extra buttons on it. I think I was having a bitch of a time getting a driver that worked good for my mouse in Linux back in the day. Ditto for getting keyboard shortcuts and shit too. I also have weird fucking scripts that fuck with the registry in windows to change the functions of the mouse buttons when I'm using different programs.
[May 24,2007 12:08am - sxealex ""]
this is a little much but you can see how much you can cutomize with that shit...
bennyhillifier
[May 24,2007 12:09am - sxealex ""]
mouse buttons should not be a problem at least not in the past couple years... ubuntu is fucking easy as shit to set up
[May 24,2007 12:12am - sxealex ""]
i feel on switching over tho.. im still on os x most of the time. my goal is to be on linux completely by next year as my main compy /server. I just need some better sound recording shit on linux. Right now its clumsy as fuck. Im hoping they put tracktion on linux.
[May 24,2007 12:21am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
Cool. Ubuntu looks like it's got a pretty wild GUI. Yeah I think my problem is just switching. I'm so damn used to the Win2kpro/WinXP shit that I have tricked out. I already hate Vista. I have everything right now just totally stripped down, clean, fast, and efficient.
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[May 24,2007 12:25am - sxealex ""]
i used os 9 for 3 years after os x came out... switching is hard... its gonan be even harder for me now cuz i got the whole command vs control thing coming. So i just play with the box i have on suse 10.2 for now to get used to it. here is my LIVE screen shot
http://spy.sxealex.com [May 24,2007 12:27am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
cool!
[May 24,2007 12:28am - sxealex ""]
dont worry i can shut it off when i look at porn
[May 24,2007 12:30am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
I ended up using AVG but that Ubuntu looks nice.
[May 24,2007 12:34am - sxealex ""]
yea... read up on it and learn a bit b4 u switch... mostly on how to make it dual boot. there are a million and 1 how-tos. you probably wont feel comfortable using it right away.
[May 24,2007 12:45am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Honestly, I'm using a laptop so I'm not completely sweating it. All I need is something that detects viruses and other stuff and takes care of it.
[May 24,2007 12:51am - ArrowHead NLI ""]
I just built a whole new system, and still bought XP pro. I'll be using this OS for a long time. Vista seems unnecessary and bulky, and linux will just never be an option. It's hard enough to get the companies that produce software to make versions for both PC and Mac. Why waste time creating a dual boot system so I can still play my games and record when I can just use the same OS to do everything?
As for anti-virus, I haven't run any for about a year or so. In that time, I've had less problems than when I ran Norton all the time. Good data backup habits are far more valuable than any useless antivirus tool.
[May 24,2007 12:59am - sxealex ""]
linux = no virus. not virus detection just barely any risk. same with almost any current unix based system
[May 24,2007 12:59am - sxealex ""]
ps. never had a virus. ever.
[May 24,2007 1:05am - ArrowHead NLI ""]
sxealex said:linux = no virus. not virus detection just barely any risk. same with almost any current unix based system
Same with most macs. It's meaningless.
Why write viruses to exploit systems that MOST people are not using?
If everyone were to follow your lead, and switch to Linux, do you think things would remain that way?
[May 24,2007 9:02am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
sxealex said:dont worry i can shut it off when i look at porn
haha I was wondering about that. I was hoping to score some free porn out of this deal.
sxealex said:ps. never had a virus. ever.
Ditto here.
[May 24,2007 11:31am - sxealex ""]
ArrowHead NLI said:sxealex said:linux = no virus. not virus detection just barely any risk. same with almost any current unix based system
Same with most macs. It's meaningless.
Why write viruses to exploit systems that MOST people are not using?
If everyone were to follow your lead, and switch to Linux, do you think things would remain that way?
yes.
the systems are built differently requiring social engineering in viruses. inother words u gotta install something with a password to "infect"(more like break) yourself. In addition holes would be fixed in one day on linux stuff.
windows has an open registry.
i can write a program to change anything on your computer.
i can put it on a cd to auto run.
unix based system dont work like this.
[May 24,2007 11:33am - sxealex ""]
dont get me wrong...you can defintaley set windows up to get close to this secure but the base of it is not secure. and its not secure by default. (maybe vista is i dunno)
[May 24,2007 2:20pm - blahman3000 ""]
Vista sucks more than XP. Besides, if you had no additional firewall and ran a malicious batch script i could poke several holes into your firewall. This has been done by just viewing a site or running a binded batch script in a program. Basically, a more constructive trojan.
Even though i love linux, linux != non-vulnerable. With FireFox as their main browser, injecting a shell script + Batch script into a malicious webpage and having an FF<2.0 view it, BAM! CP down for the count for ANY windows or *nix operating systems.
[May 24,2007 2:23pm - the_reverend ""]
if you take a the average linux user, the average windows user, and the average mac user, let them configure a system, and then try to hack the machines, the windows one (on average) is the most secure.
[May 24,2007 2:31pm - blahman3000 ""]
True, most Windows security programs are GUI's and simple to use. As most Linux security programs are console-based and have advanced options for more security. Like Snort, which is cross-platform, but more *nix users use it.
[May 24,2007 2:33pm - the_reverend ""]
we use snort at my work.. I forget what for... but we use it.
huh, they buils it on centos? weird.
[May 24,2007 2:34pm - blahman3000 ""]
But, then again, these programs are more vulnberable to BoF's that can be exploited to gain a shell instantly. Also, the average Window User typically doesn't keep up-to-date with security updates. So, basically, once they get a shiny new firewall, then a 0-day BoF comes out, system pwned because they didn't get a patch and computer used for building enemies botnet. :p
[May 24,2007 2:37pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
I miss the days of having botnets :(
[May 24,2007 2:38pm - the_reverend ""]
that's why I use mac os, winxp, ubuntu, knoppix, and red hat+centos.
[May 24,2007 3:35pm - sxealex ""]
i have no firewall
[May 24,2007 3:46pm - sxealex ""]
my traffic doesnt warrant a firewall
how would u plan on "injecting a shell script into a malicious webpage"?
also firefox is the main browser in gnome desktops only for the most part. Thats a broad generalization. Im sure if u hack away enough at one system you could get into it. I dont think its as easy as windows via a malicious page. If it is... you gotta show me how.
[May 24,2007 4:16pm - sxealex ""]
and rev that stament 3 posts up is wack if your really mean the average user. the average windows user does not configure a system they just press ok till IE opens up and they can check their myspace. The average user brings their compy to a comp shop when they have spyware.
[May 24,2007 4:26pm - the_reverend ""]
*sigh* don't make me find the proof.
[May 24,2007 4:36pm - the_reverend ""]
from a couple days ago: Mac OS X Less Secure Than Vista
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/bursting-your-b...x-less-secure-than-vista-256768.php
[May 24,2007 4:43pm - the_reverend ""]
I'm searching slashdot for the article about the average windows vs. average linux user. Maybe it was on biongbiong.
[May 24,2007 5:01pm - metal_church101 ""]
the_reverend said:from a couple days ago: Mac OS X Less Secure Than Vista
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/bursting-your-bubble/mac-os-x-less-secure-than-vista-256768.php
Ha HA HA.
Nice.
[May 24,2007 5:30pm - sxealex ""]
isnt vista unix based?
[May 24,2007 5:30pm - sxealex ""]
honestly i have not looked into it
[May 24,2007 9:15pm - xanonymousx ""]
my pc is loaded with spy/adware and i cannot get rid of it..
but i use my mac all the time and just use the pc to download stuff cause of its super big hard drive (probably the reason of all of the spy ware and such)
[May 24,2007 10:13pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""]
Wipe the partition, reinstall Windows and start fresh.
[May 25,2007 12:46pm - blahman3000 ""]
sxealex said:my traffic doesnt warrant a firewall
how would u plan on "injecting a shell script into a malicious webpage"?
also firefox is the main browser in gnome desktops only for the most part. Thats a broad generalization. Im sure if u hack away enough at one system you could get into it. I dont think its as easy as windows via a malicious page. If it is... you gotta show me how.
No, FireFox is very fast to fix their holes and less is found in FireFox. But, for those that don't update + the amount of private exploits the threat is definately there. Such exploits as:
http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/22826/info are what i'm talking about.
Although, seriously, Windows is ungodly easy to inject shit from just viewing a page via php.
[May 25,2007 7:41pm - xanonymousx ""]
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:Wipe the partition, reinstall Windows and start fresh.
i tried doing that but i put the windows disk in the computer it goes through a few screens and then says cannot find such and such a file....
now it is a copy of the disk, but it worked when i originally installed it.
guess i have to get another xp disk.