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[QUOTE="adamtimenli:646597"]not having read all this because i don't have the time for it, i understand the complaints from the first 30 or so posts, but have no sympathy or advice. i've been in pay to play situations, and let's face it, you can only resort to selling to friends and acquaintances when you don't have too much time, the right location, or much exposure for your band. then again, if every band does their job when a 40-50 ticket requirement is laid, it's not just beneficial to the venue, but depending on the bill, the band gets that many more people to listen to your music who can enjoy it. you just have to hope all the friends of the other bands brought an excess of bar money to spend on your merch so you can break even or come out with some cash. as pete was saying, most of the time, a band puts in effort and cash before they even think about making money at a show. it's nice, yeah, but you can't expect it. right now we drop about 70-80 bucks per performance just to rent a vehicle to get to a show because none of us have anything big enough to bring equipment. you either love what you do, and it's enough to be worth it, or you give up and stop playing local metal. if you bitch and don't play, the venue won't give a shit, there'll be someone else there to sell tickets and make money for them. if you really bust your ass and sell more tickets that you're required to, you can make a lot of cash. you just have to ask yourself how much exposure you want, and if it's worth your time and money. if it's not, don't play, and don't bitch.[/QUOTE]
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