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[QUOTE="quintessence:685682"]The point of this is to at least (in a more serious and formal way) let Mark's and TNT know that what they are doing isn't right. Yeah you guys can just sit around and say who cares...but turning the other cheek is not what we are about. Sorry Here are some peoples responses. Please feel free to add your name and your opinion of TNT here. It only takes a second! I myself have had many run-ins with tnt security. this company has no place at a metal venue and i will not attend any show at any venue that employs them. i sign this petition with the hopes that everyone else that enjoys the true metal experience will stand up as well. -Crazy Dan Silver I have attended this venue twice this past year. In both instances it seemed that the security guards were far more rowdy than the paying attendees, many of which drove hours out of their way to watch the bands preforming that night. I understand to an extent the no moshing policy held by this club. On the other hand, it would seem that these security guards bring the conflicts upon themselves. Quite frankly, I am disgusted by the way customers are treated at this venue. Until changes are made among the staff of Mark's Rock Club as well as the termination of TNT security, I will NOT in any circumstances be attending this venue. -Connor Dooley Having been present for one of the same shows as Connor, I witnessed a bouncer under the employ of Mark's commit actions that could have easily led to a conviction for assault, had his victim chosen to contact a lawyer. this bouncer's victim was a paying patron of the club. It's true that Mark's has a "no moshing" rule. it's also true that some homeowners have a no smoking rule in their houses. If one of these homeowners were to invite a group of smokers into their house, and then hand them cigarettes, should he then reasonably expect them not to smoke? Any venue hiring TNT security can expect to have a reduced turnout for that show, resulting in less revenue for the club and bands less willing to return to that venue. They can also expect potentially business-ending legal battles resulting from TNT security's irresponsible and unprofessional use of excessive force. - DFTG i refuse to go to another show at marks or staffed by TNT security. fuck them. i was thrown out of marks during the finntroll show. total douchebags - wargozer After witnessing, and hearing about numerous concert-goers being thrown out of this venue for absurd reasons by the overly vehement security, and being told I couldn't headbang at metal show, I have little interest in attending shows staffed by TNT. I was present at the Finntroll show on September 22nd, and the only time the crowd got rowdy was when a security guards were shoving people who weren't doing anything wrong out of the way in order to pull someone out of the audience. Some changes need to be made. -Maegan I've banned Mark's Showplace since last April. First and last show I went to there was 1349 and I will not return for any event there. The bands played great but the rest of the experience was horrible thanks to the security staff. Based on the contents of the above written letter, I don't feel the need to go into detail about my night there since my experience was about the same. Furthermore I refuse to attend any other venue that contracts them for security. -Nicole Moriarty I've seen this company more or less harass multiple patrons.These men don't just "do there job".They hunt patrons and harass them.Head banging or being drunk isn't a crime.I've never been given a warning for "looking drunk" if I wasn't braking any laws,other than by TNT.TNT security once used my date's face to open a door while dragging him out.A cop saw this and said he could have filled out a report.If anyone else is manhandled like that,I hope you sue. -Juliette I have witnessed inappropriately aggressive behavior from TNT Security on numerous occasions. Because of this, I have not attended any concerts at Mark's Showplace in several months, and I have no intention of visiting Mark's Showplace in the future. I once watched several security guards aggressively grab a petite female friend of mine from behind and drag her out of the club with excessive force, simply because she was taking pictures and was not aware that she needed a press pass in order to take pictures at Mark's Showplace. A simple tap on the shoulder and a brief explanation of the club's rules would have sufficed. I've also seen security target myself as well as friends of mine, all of whom were abiding by the "no moshing" rule, simply because we enthusiastically cheered and slightly moved while a band was playing. In addition to aggressive behavior, I have also witnessed safety issues which would be a serious liability problem for the club. I once saw a man accidentally smack his head on the metal barrier in front of the stage and knock himself unconscious at Mark's Showplace. A friend of mine carried him out of the crowd, and even after I had asked security for assistance, it was several minutes before TNT Security came to help this unconscious man who was lying on the floor. It was another patron and me who placed the man in the recovery position that is taught in CPR training, took his pulse, and attempted to wake him up while security failed to act quickly. I had to ask security several times to call an ambulance before anything was done. Eventually, a few security guards carelessly lifted and dragged this unconscious man to the door and left him lying on the floor by himself in the entry way to the club (where it was very cold). Initially, they would not allow his friends to watch him until an ambulance arrived. It was not until I discussed the liability issue of leaving an unconscious man alone in front of a door where people were stepping over him that they allowed his friends to keep an eye on him. I have never seen such unprofessional security practices at any venue. - Samantha Godbout (Worcester, MA) At this point I think is unnecessary to mention that TNT Security is the main reason I refuse to attend any show at Mark’s Showplace no matter how good the show is. There is absolutely no point to spend money in that place. -Charlie Monroy[/QUOTE]
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