new bush coins[views:2047][posts:18]__________________________________________ [Jan 16,2008 7:32am - DaveFromTheGrave ""] http://blip.tv/file/520347 |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 16,2008 8:58am - the_reverend ""] truthiness |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 16,2008 9:12am - DestroyYouAlot ""] LOL |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 16,2008 5:08pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] bump |
| ___________________________________ [Jan 16,2008 5:13pm - DrewBlood ""] oh WOW. so fucking good. |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 16,2008 5:33pm - DaveFromTheGrave ""] [img] |
| ____________________________________________ [Jan 16,2008 5:36pm - theaccurseddrummer ""] Ruthless. Loved it. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 17,2008 4:36am - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] we continue to crack jokes, but who is doing anything to stop these robber barons from ruining our economy? |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 17,2008 5:08am - deadlikemurf ""] hahah the country was stolen long before bush. they are just maximizing profit margins. |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 17,2008 5:49am - DaveFromTheGrave ""] Y_Ddraig_Goch said:we continue to crack jokes, but who is doing anything to stop these robber barons from ruining our economy? What can we do? |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 17,2008 1:42pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] DaveFromTheGrave said:Y_Ddraig_Goch said:we continue to crack jokes, but who is doing anything to stop these robber barons from ruining our economy? What can we do? what did they do before world war one and two? you should read up on the socialist and worker's parties that were literally days away from overthrowing the capitalist government until the mexican war was launched, then ww1, then ww2. They made tons of progress for us, I say we continue that progress, the dream of our forefathers in the early 1900's was to have an economy where the people owned the means of productions so they could equally distribute the profits to all those who worked...whereas today we make an obscenely low amount compared to our main employers. It's really not that hard, let's used a foundry for example. all the equipment and the building is owned by the employer who pays you whatever he wants, usually the lowest he can. If all the workers co owned the building and the equipment they could increase the pay they all receive tenfold, if they were free of greed that is. It wouldn't cost much to own the means of production cooperatively so the pay would still be a lot more than normal, say for example the head guy who owned everything made 100 million in profits a year, whereas you as a worker only made 40,000 a year, if that. If you owned the means of production you could redistribute this 100 million that is made in profits in the form of wage increases for everyone else, obviously still keeping it in scale with what people make, for example the janitor wouldn't be making the same as whatever the guy doing the hardest job was doing. Yet in school you are taught that socialism is fascism, when it was the socialist movement that brought us the 40 hour week, health insurance, workman's comp, child labor laws, minimum wage...if it wasn't for the strikes of workers in the early 1900's we would be a lot worse off...imagine what we could do if we still had movements like that? anyways that was a long winded, howard zinn inspired reply. |
| ______________________________________ [Jan 17,2008 2:07pm - goatcatalyst ""] DaveFromTheGrave said:Y_Ddraig_Goch said:we continue to crack jokes, but who is doing anything to stop these robber barons from ruining our economy? What can we do? 1. drugs. they will help you forget or make you comfortably apathetic. 2. stop breeding. that's a no-brainer. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 17,2008 3:28pm - Yeti ""] Y_Ddraig_Goch said:if they were free of greed that is. thats the key phrase. ideally that works, but its a stone's throw from communism. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 17,2008 3:44pm - SacreligionNLI ""] NTW :nuke: |
| ______________________________ [Jan 17,2008 4:09pm - Lamp ""] Yeti said:Y_Ddraig_Goch said:if they were free of greed that is. thats the key phrase. ideally that works, but its a stone's throw from communism. Yeah, that's why if someone decides to become a greedy asshole, everyone else beats the unholy fucking shit out of him until he's close to death. Just because you advocate a peaceful movement doesn't mean you can't fight for it. |
| _______________________________________ [Jan 17,2008 4:16pm - Y_Ddraig_Goch ""] Lamp said:Yeti said:Y_Ddraig_Goch said:if they were free of greed that is. thats the key phrase. ideally that works, but its a stone's throw from communism. Yeah, that's why if someone decides to become a greedy asshole, everyone else beats the unholy fucking shit out of him until he's close to death. Just because you advocate a peaceful movement doesn't mean you can't fight for it. I read this amazing story about how a city shutdown, an entire major city was on strike and during the strike all the workers in the city performed their own jobs and the city was running fine, an outside army officer came in to visit and said he had never seen a better run city, there was zero crime for the few months of the civilian "occupation". They had food and all the necessary tasks running, farmers came in and sold their goods to the people directly, anyone who could do a service did it in exchange for food or other services. Anyone who didn't do their job or slacked off was kicked out of the city. Eventually the governer of the state had the national guard and a reserve of army soldiers come in and arrest ringleaders and beat/intimidate residents |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 17,2008 4:19pm - SacreligionNLI ""] by read do you mean "made up"? |
| ______________________________ [Jan 17,2008 5:17pm - Lamp ""] I'm guessing that didn't happen in an American city, but you know, there are actually other parts of the world where people aren't so greedy and the wealth is more evenly distributed. |
| _________________________________________ [Jan 17,2008 5:57pm - SacreligionNLI ""] by other parts of the world do you mean nowhere or tribes in jungles? |