I really am taken aback by the number of people who label themselves "agnostic."[views:1754][posts:34]_____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 12:08am - Murph nli ""] Why haven't you offed yourself yet? |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 12:11am - DestroyYouAlot ""] My labelmaker is busted. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 12:12am - RichHorror ""] Explain your position. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 12:15am - Murph nli ""] RichHorror said:Explain your position. It's not my position. Gonna have to pass it off to the wonderful Latin language. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 12:15am - RichHorror ""] NO I MUST KNOW WTF FTW |
| _______________________________ [Feb 14,2008 12:20am - Lamp ""] An agnostic is someone who's too much of a pussy to call himself an atheist. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 12:21am - RichHorror ""] Oh, I thought homeboy loved Jesus or some shit. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 12:21am - Murph nli ""] Agnostic can be broken down into two words. A, Latin for "without" or "devoid of" or even to stretch "against" and Gnosis, meaning "knowledge" If you're without knowledge, hence an idiot, than...why, just why. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 12:22am - Murph nli ""] Murph%20nli said:Agnostic can be broken down into two words. A, Latin for "without" or "devoid of" or even to stretch "against" and Gnosis, meaning "knowledge" If you're without knowledge, hence an idiot, than...why, just why. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. PS, its greek. not latin. im too tired. |
| ___________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 10:15am - bradmann ""] an agnostic neither denies nor accepts the existence of a god. it's not the blind faith of all religions nor is it the blind ignorance of atheism. it's a happy human medium of "unknowing". so yes, an agnostic is in fact one without knowledge. that doesn't make them an idiot, it just makes them a realistic human being. |
| _______________________________ [Feb 14,2008 10:33am - Yeti ""] the word agnostic is so vague. i don't like the idea of an agnostic, it seems so untrustworthy. they don't believe because there is no technical proof, but if god itself reached out of the sky, they would say "i never said i didn't believe!". |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 11:09am - Kinslayer ""] blind ignorance of athiesm?...what an oxy moron. |
| ________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 11:27am - aril ""] Everyone knows we're descendants of the Pleiadians, whose society was being battled by the Draconians hundreds of thousands of years ago. We know the Zeta's descended down back when hominids were roaming the earth. They altered our DNA, thus making our some of our DNA "extra terrestial" in origin. Look it up. Homo Sapiens Sapiens are a genetic experiment of the Zetas, and they are monitoring our progress, as well as interbreeding with us making a hybrid race. They, as well as other species, are presently active on Earth today. Dulce base, for example, is an underground military installation in New Mexico where our Shadow Government is in contact with the species, discussing the NWO, among other future plans. Supposedly, 2012 is the year where something big will happen; whether it be the Draconians attacking us, and the Pleiadians coming on our side. This has been noted by both the Mayans, and the ancient Sumerians. |
| _______________________________ [Feb 14,2008 11:28am - Lamp ""] nm |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 11:30am - DestroyYouAlot ""] X-DAY IS COMING |
| _________________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 11:32am - DestroyYouAlot ""] [img] |
| ________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 11:34am - aril ""] Haha, in all seriousness, I do not belive that story. I so believe we're in contact with aliens or know more about them though. Call me a consipracy theorist or whatever, but come on now. Anyway, that story is actually believed by many abductees, and believe it or not, there are Ancient Sumerian tablets which depict this happening. It's pretty interesting if you read about it, but it sounds like one giant Sci-Fi novel. I was a little rusty in remembering it, but it goes something along those lines. PS: there is no God. only aliens. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 11:39am - craig nli ""] i have an idea. deny all titles, believe in what you believe, accept that everyone is an idiot to someone, youre an idiot fuck you for being stupid, aliens are gay, god likes boys, and murph.....wanna get a beer tonite buddy? or will you be busy with swedish luvin? |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 11:46am - ancient master ""] Bep Kororoti will protect us www.spiritwheel.com/natveskydancers.htm http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientastronauts.html |
| __________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 1:37pm - cav nli ""] this thread reminds me of a nevermore song |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 1:49pm - Murph nli ""] bradmann said:an agnostic neither denies nor accepts the existence of a god. it's not the blind faith of all religions nor is it the blind ignorance of atheism. it's a happy human medium of "unknowing". so yes, an agnostic is in fact one without knowledge. that doesn't make them an idiot, it just makes them a realistic human being. I mean, I can sort of see where you're going with this, except that to get to a point where one can see "I neither deny nor accept the existence of god, a god, a supreme being" means that person must have done some sort of research from both angles that does not allow them to fully align with either side. But the word gnosis isn't so exact. Gnosis is "spiritual" knowledge, and is more of an active process than just some definition of one's facts, beliefs, or dogmatic princple. It really defines a person by what they have found in their own life to be self-evident and true. I just hate the term, because it was created in a derogatory sense to belittle the ideas and views of people that did not fit into an existing dogmatic code. Craigy, if you wanna come by the house, I'll pick up some beer and we can chill? |
| __________________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 1:57pm - largefreakatzero ""] [img] |
| __________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 2:11pm - bradmann ""] Murph%20nli said: bradmann said:an agnostic neither denies nor accepts the existence of a god. it's not the blind faith of all religions nor is it the blind ignorance of atheism. it's a happy human medium of "unknowing". so yes, an agnostic is in fact one without knowledge. that doesn't make them an idiot, it just makes them a realistic human being. I mean, I can sort of see where you're going with this, except that to get to a point where one can see "I neither deny nor accept the existence of god, a god, a supreme being" means that person must have done some sort of research from both angles that does not allow them to fully align with either side. But the word gnosis isn't so exact. Gnosis is "spiritual" knowledge, and is more of an active process than just some definition of one's facts, beliefs, or dogmatic princple. It really defines a person by what they have found in their own life to be self-evident and true. I just hate the term, because it was created in a derogatory sense to belittle the ideas and views of people that did not fit into an existing dogmatic code. Craigy, if you wanna come by the house, I'll pick up some beer and we can chill? first, you can't do research to prove the existence of god. second, you're right, the word gnosis is a "spiritual" knowledge and while i have a lot of trouble with the word "spirit" i wholeheartedly agree that a person is comprised of the life they lead and the choices made therein. third, the term was created by this man. He seems like someone who would be proud to use it, not someone who would use it to insult another. |
| ______________________________ [Feb 14,2008 3:19pm - Yeti ""] bradmann said:first, you can't do research to prove the existence of god. au contraire, Homer did it when he was doing his taxes. SIMPSONS DID IT! |
| ______________________________ [Feb 14,2008 3:20pm - Yeti ""] well, Homer proved there isn't a god. |
| ____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 4:16pm - Murph nli ""] >> first, you can't do research to prove the existence of god. second, you're right, the word gnosis is a "spiritual" knowledge and while i have a lot of trouble with the word "spirit" i wholeheartedly agree that a person is comprised of the life they lead and the choices made therein. third, the term was created by this man. He seems like someone who would be proud to use it, not someone who would use it to insult another.>> Nah man, Huxley used the word as being someone who was "ignorant" of the "gnosis" professed by those who followed Church teaching. By labelling Socrates the "first agnostic," he acknowledged that his definition of an agnostic was someone for whom Church (ie Christian) teaching was completely irrelevant, as with Socrates predating Christianity (perhaps not Messianic Judaism, however). So, to call oneself an agnostic from that point of view would mean to be completely ignorant of Christian teaching, which means that one wouldn't be against or for a Messiah, but not even introduced to such things. Also, its not real good to use wiki as evidence, because most of the "facts" presented on that site are fucking retarded. And, you can do research to deny the existence of "god," its called astrophysics, archaelogy, or any science that tries to trace the origins of humanity. The basis of going back as far as we can is to find out how it was all designed, ie the existence of a "god" or "intelligent power." |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 6:46pm - burnsy nli ""] When someone says they are agnostic, it affirms their belief in the human condition that we are all ignorant and can never be certain about anything. |
| _________________________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 6:48pm - the_taste_of_cigarettes ""] Also, what's up with airline food? |
| ______________________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 7:32pm - Fuck_Logging_In_NLI ""] agreed |
| __________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 7:42pm - brian_dc ""] the_taste_of_cigarettes said:Also, what's up with airline food? |
| __________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 8:32pm - bradmann ""] burnsy%20nli said:When someone says they are agnostic, it affirms their belief in the human condition that we are all ignorant and can never be certain about anything. dass all i be tryin 2 say |
| __________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 8:34pm - bradmann ""] oh and there's no way Socrates was an agnostic when throughout the dialogues he mentions having a voice in his head. |
| ______________________________________ [Feb 14,2008 8:43pm - the_reverend ""] look folks, we are at war here. pick a side. |
| _____________________________________ [Feb 16,2008 12:57pm - RichHorror ""] [img] |
| ________________________________ [Feb 16,2008 1:57pm - NIGGER ""] AGNOSTICS ARE LAZY ATHEISTS ATHEISTS ARE PEOPLE WHO THINK GOD SHOULD BE WHITE WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH BLACK POWER! |