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Acariya and other metalcore bands in manchester tonight

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Rocko's (Manchester, NH) - [absence_of_the_sun][acariya][again_we_rise][arise_and_ruin][a_timely_demise][catharsis][chapter_50][ghost_of_a_fallen_age][randomshots]
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[Feb 15,2008 6:36pm - the_reverend ""]
I thought arise & ruin was playing, but I guess not. I wonder if this catharsis is THE catharsis who I thought broke up.
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[Feb 15,2008 6:38pm - the_reverend ""]
Arise and Ruin. Ghost of a Fallen Age, Absence of the Sun, Catharsis, A Timely Demise, Suffer Your Words and Again We Rise

oh, arise and ruin is playing. nice.
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[Feb 15,2008 8:05pm - the_reverend ""]
chapter 50: this set of bands is way more their style than the first time I saw them. The kids from again we rise danced around for them.

again we rise: wow, really young kids. A lot of the people in the audience were their family. They will robably get better. They seemed sort of unsure of themselves so im guessing haven't played many shows.

a timely demise: how anyone wearing a bayside anything can question my sexuality is beyond me. Wearing a bayside shirt is second only to reaching under the stall next to you in a truck stop. I would have taken them up on the offer to steal their new guitar player, but then they would have to get another new one. they have gotten a lot better. I think the last time I saw them I said that they went more unearth and less zao. it is still far to say that same thing.
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[Feb 15,2008 9:27pm - the_reverend ""]
ghost of a fallen age: holy crap, that's one of the most surprising bands that I've seen in a long time. they totally stole the show. The singer re-introduced himself to me since the last time I saw him was sick as sin fest I think. The set was the best. This is exactly what I hoped the last FASSW CD would have been like. When they hit the stage, their equipment was so much louder and better than the previous bands. The singer, former FASSW fill in singer, casper, kept getting in the audience members faces and at one point riped a kid's shirt. He apologized And the kid said "it's ok, just give me a free arise and ruin shirt"
"dude, i'm in ghost of a fallen age"
Caser also gave me a new saying. Return to the pit "don't be a faggot about it" meaning that everyone should go to my site and look at the pictures from the show. And that's how I feel about it too.
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[Feb 16,2008 12:09am - the_reverend ""]
too many pictures...
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[Feb 16,2008 12:18am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Casper headbutt me and we almost fought while they were playing. Apparently he's had too much to drink on this tour. After the show, I went up to him and told him everything was a misunderstanding and everything was fine. The last thing I want to do is fight someone in a band that I like. Lame.
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[Feb 16,2008 12:36am - the_reverend ""]
He basically said the head butt was a stupid thing and that your head is really hard. they seriously killed.
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[Feb 16,2008 12:42am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Did you get a pic of it??
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[Feb 16,2008 12:46am - the_reverend ""]
they are processing really really slowly... you can see when they are up in a few minutes.
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[Feb 16,2008 12:53am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Aight cool. Yes, GOAFA did really awesome tonight. I'm gonna try and get them up here again, maybe in the summer when we have more open dates.
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[Feb 16,2008 1:10am - ArthurATD_NLI  ""]

the_reverend said:
a timely demise: how anyone wearing a bayside anything can question my sexuality is beyond me. Wearing a bayside shirt is second only to reaching under the stall next to you in a truck stop. I would have taken them up on the offer to steal their new guitar player, but then they would have to get another new one. they have gotten a lot better. I think the last time I saw them I said that they went more unearth and less zao. it is still far to say that same thing.





Ok rev, 3 things
1. how can someone insult bayside when they have death cab for cutie on their ipod?
2. I wasn't questioning your sexuality, I was just informing everyone that you solicit young men for anal sex.
3. nice seeing you too. haha.

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[Feb 16,2008 1:46am - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Dang, what's taking so long, Rev?
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[Feb 16,2008 2:51am - the_reverend ""]
oops... I fell asleep.
blame the cat.
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[Feb 16,2008 3:12am - paulmanley ""]
ive been waiting so long to see goafa and they were fucken awsome. the new songs they played were sick. mad pumped for the new album
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[Feb 16,2008 10:15am - bradmann ""]

the_reverend said:I thought arise & ruin was playing, but I guess not. I wonder if this catharsis is THE catharsis who I thought broke up.


that would be awesome if that Catharsis got back together. how was THIS Catharsis?
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[Feb 16,2008 10:57am - NIGGER ""]
ATTENTION WHITE MAN:

METALCORE MEANS THAT SOMEONE ELSE OWNS
YOUR TESTICLES
AND A KNIFE NAMED PITY

HAHAHA
EMPIRE=FAIL

BLACK POWER!
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[Feb 16,2008 1:49pm - xmarksthespot  ""]
Chapter 50 was a big turn off for me.

I heard them a while back and some what liked them, but seeing them and meeting them. I wish I hadn't. Their performance was weak and their attitudes afterwards was really shitty. They kissed ass to all the other bands and when someone not in a band of course came around they came off as really arrogant and cocky. You shouldn't do that to kids who are fans of your band.

Again We Rise, like someone else said, really young kids!

It was obvious they haven't played too many shows or even been playing in general for that long. Their performance was weak also, specificly the singer. They need to amp it up a bit. For their age, they were alright. More experience and I'll think they'll be much better. I'd like to seem them in a year or so.

Ghost Of A Fallen Age was insane!

The music was great, but the performance was a little over the top. While I love bands that act crazy and get in your face, they came off a little bit like douchebags. Though it could have been due to the fact that the singer was drunk, who knows. Either way this band was deffinitly one of the best.

But Arise And Ruin was by far the best.

Once again the music was great and the performance was insane also, but deffinitly not over the top. They interacted with the crowd and the crowd was eating it up, although there wasn't much of a crowd, which could have been due to a few other metal/hardcore shows going on in Manchester that night. I look forward to seeing and hearing more from this band.
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[Feb 16,2008 2:05pm - urinal turd  ""]
chapter 50 was a bunch of douche bags. they were ripping on the band after them because the bassist had a little combo amp when the guys in chapter 50 had full stacks that their parents probably bought them cuz they still had the tags on them.

again we rise were young. that's pretty much all you can say about them.

ghost of a fallen age was great. great songs and great performance.

arise and ruin were pretty good. very entertaining.

acariya was great too as usual.

absence of the sun was a little painful. out of tune guitars and just kind of boring.

catharsis.....terrible.
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[Feb 16,2008 3:27pm - keebinmonster ""]
catharsis just started a few months ago. my old band (secada) played with them a few times. good guys. im good friends with the drummer.
and by good friends i mean i live and have sex with him.
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[Feb 16,2008 4:15pm - the_reverend ""]
I could see what people are saying about chapter 50 from the last time I asw them. they mentioned touring and stuff, but I had never heard of them. they had a different attitude at this show imho.


arise and ruin: this was the reason I decided to hit this show. They were really good like I expected. Very heavy and had similar "in your face" moments like Ghost of a Fallen Age. If you thought they were slow, you'd be wrong. They were actually from canada, eh. Again, their equipment was a cut above the rest of the bands in the venue (all wireless no less). Very load. I would say they are a touch more hardcore-ish live than on CD. Probably why there was so much moshing. It is definitely hard to play after ghost, but they pulled it off.

acariya: lots of people up front having fun with them. There was even a gang vocals part. These dudes might have had the most amount of actual audience memebers at this show. They played a bunch of songs that I knew from he demo and from other times seeing them playing. people piled up on the top of everyone too for their second to last song.

absence of the sun: They got a new singer. the "out of tune" guitars I heard too, but I think that they were so rushed since the show was running late. Still not that bad of a band. The younger kids in the audience were really into it.

catharsis: I think that the singer ms'd me the other week to say that he was in this new band. He was the best part of his old band. I remember seeing his old band in maine a while ago. They were a lot different from all the other bands on the bill. There were a few parts of their songs here I though it was a little empty and I thought "huh, there should be something more here" maybe another guitar track on a CD or something. I think that they will definitely be a lot better as time goes on, but I liked what I heard. they just need to polish it up a bit.
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[Feb 16,2008 8:43pm - xmikex ""]
so this isn't Catharsis from CT from back in the day...
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[Feb 16,2008 11:18pm - the_reverend ""]
I forget which catharsis I thought it was... but whom ever it was, broke up.
it's the one whose members when off to be in requiem
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[Feb 16,2008 11:51pm - A.J.-Vox-AWR  ""]
yeah i agree with you i really shouldve stepped up my intensity this show... this is the biggest event we have ever played, and we have only been a band for a short, short while. But there is no excuse... we couldve played alot better.
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[Feb 17,2008 12:02am - the_reverend ""]
you guys are young and unsure of yourself.
but all bands were like that.
I feel like a fool in front of people, but once you get past the self consciousness, you will be must better.
the straight out of compton thing was hilarious.
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[Feb 17,2008 2:37am - CatharsisVox  ""]
Hey thanks for the kind words rev. Yeah on the cd we have another guitar track and we're in the process of finding someone after tour. But yeah thanks again dude I really appreciate it, sick pictures to!!!
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[Feb 17,2008 10:34am - mcmahon ""]
we showed up for this around midnight after practice (no shit), but there was no sign of a metal show.
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[Feb 17,2008 3:08pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
Shows are usually over by 10:30 at Rocko's.
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[Feb 24,2008 7:08pm - Paul Patrick  ""]
As the Vocalist for Chapter Fifty, I appreciate Again We Rise and proudly consider them friends of 'the family'
I wish other people would stop causing drama. The combo amp thing was a misunderstanding. If people would pay attention to how we actually are as people, we were going to offer AWR one of our amps to borrow for that show. In fact, one of that bands fathers were at that show and he thanked us for being considerate to his sons band.

On a personal note, if people are going to waste time trying to start shit, than they obviously need to get a reality check. Because we are in this for the long haul and we work hard just like every other band in the area. We respect every single band in the state, and will/would play any show if asked.

-Paul Patrick
Chapter Fifty Vocalist
2/24/08
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[Feb 24,2008 7:17pm - Dan LaRocque  ""]
Hey for the asshole named Urinal turd, I havent seen a single member of my family since mothers day weekend 2006 thanks for being a fucking asshole, they didn't buy me shit for my equipment, I got the fucking cab the day before, and as for the whole tour issue, we are in New jersey right now on tour, I appreciate it.

Dan - Chapter fifty
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[Feb 24,2008 7:22pm - Paul Patrick  ""]
I apologize for our plans of touring being unknown to the world. We openly post them on our Myspace page.
www.myspace.com/chapter50

as for the "attitude" people are speaking of, these accusations come as shock to us. we have always loved playing shows with any band in any area. We are a band that will play with any band of any genre or age, or experience level. Whether we're playing with a band on metal blade, or a band who just came out of the garage- disrespecting bands has never been something we have ever been about. As I post this reply we are currently on tour in New Jersey and are trying to spread our music to other areas other than the slightly decaying New Hampshire scene. Forgive us for writing music that isn't made for the mosh-pit professionals.
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[Feb 24,2008 7:26pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
The attitude you have is a holier than thou attitude, not just to bands but to fans. It's almost like you are above talking to your fans.

I could be wrong but that was the vibe I got from you when we played with you in Gilford. I still like your music regardless.
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[Feb 24,2008 7:35pm - urinal turd  ""]
zzzzzzzzz.....you guys are dicks. i agree with ctb. i was talking with arise and ruin the whole night and they were so cool to me. one of the guys in acariya bought me a beer but you guys were a bunch of cocky assholes. you were acting like you were too good for the show which was funny for a band i had never even heard of.
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[Feb 24,2008 7:41pm - Tamandapants!  ""]
First, Chapter 50 played with a band on Friday February 22nd who wernt really ready because they had lost their drummer and were still working on it, and they supported them fully. If you dont like their music, don't listen, dosnt mean you have to sit here and bash every little thing about them.
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[Feb 24,2008 7:49pm - the_reverend ""]
im not name dropping, but when I read the word "metalblade", I got a txt from a mb employee.

as I said above I noticed a bit of attitude at the mark's, but noted that I didn't see it at this show.
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[Feb 24,2008 7:51pm - Dan LaRocque  ""]
First off we had to leave to get our van fixed before we played our show in long island the next night, secondly there was a mix up with the show we were put on last minute so we opened and we were cool with that, if you dont like us get over it honestly. As for you not hearing us thats awesome for you, I suppose that is why we are in Jersey right now, you know getting our name out, have a nice night.
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[Feb 24,2008 7:54pm - DieToLive4Ever  ""]
i met paul at the rockingham mall, not even knowing he was in a band. one of the greatest dudes i have met, and the music is amazing. dont go badmouthin them, it was probably just an off moment or misunderstanding
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[Feb 24,2008 7:57pm - NateGREYCOURT  ""]
None of you have any idea how down to earth Chapter Fifty really are. I've played quite a few shows with them, and they hold respect for us as well as us to them. some people need to get the fuckin stump out of their ass and learn to take a fucking joke.
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[Feb 24,2008 7:59pm - lovestosplooge  ""]
Okay, first off, Chapter 50 are one of the nicest and most considerate bands out in our scene now. During every show I've ever seen them play, they always talk to every band, no matter if they've been in one for years or it was their first show, and they treat them with the utmost respect. As a friend of the band, I have never heard them bash any band when they were playing or any where else for that matter. And for all you douches who feel the need to talk shit for no apparent reason cause you're bored with your life, go jack-off and waste your time elsewhere.
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[Feb 24,2008 8:01pm - thegreatspaldino ""]

Dan%20LaRocque said:First off we had to leave to get our van fixed before we played our show in long island the next night, secondly there was a mix up with the show we were put on last minute so we opened and we were cool with that, if you dont like us get over it honestly. As for you not hearing us thats awesome for you, I suppose that is why we are in Jersey right now, you know getting our name out, have a nice night.


1. who cares?
2. Jersey blows. thats like bragging about having AIDS.
3. who cares?


multiple people stated you guys seemed like dilweeds. oh well, get over it. you can't impress everyone no matter how cool you act. all your posting is doing is fueling the big gay troll fire.

p.s. government cheese is less generic than your band. wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhhh *meedley lead guitar line*... enjoy playing shows with And Then There Were None, hahahaha
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[Feb 24,2008 8:03pm - sbk  ""]
sucks that no one gets along these days. what happened to the unity of it all?
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[Feb 24,2008 8:07pm - Paul Patrick  ""]
i agree, I wish we could all just get along and enjoy making good memories with good music.
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[Feb 24,2008 8:08pm - DieToLive4Ever  ""]
rick roll woo!
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[Feb 24,2008 8:10pm - thegreatspaldino ""]

sbk said:sucks that no one gets along these days. what happened to the unity of it all?


that went down the drain when people started bitching about what brand of $80 girls made their ass look better.


edit: forgot the dollar sign.
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[Feb 24,2008 8:19pm - anonymous  ""]
WOOOOWW first off, i know the guys of chapter 50 and they are the nicest guys around, there parents dont buy all there shit and you apparently have a huge pole jammed up your ass, the only reason i can think that you would get an attitude slightly from any of the guys is because your some fucking hardcore im so fucking cool kid who brags about how well he can pick up pennys in the middle of a wood floor.
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[Feb 24,2008 8:44pm - the_reverend ""]
I am really impressed but the sheer number of ips posting here. tyically when you read things like this, all the defending posts are from the same ip. this thread isn't .
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[Feb 24,2008 8:48pm - thegreatspaldino ""]
quit recruiting knobs to come and defend you. you guys keep posting with their dongs deeply embedded in your pieholes, watch as everyone finds a way to care less and move on to something a lot cooler than whiny metalbore bands.
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[Feb 24,2008 9:00pm - Dan LaRocque  ""]
Go to school, and learn to spell.
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[Feb 24,2008 9:01pm - the_reverend ""]
my phone usualy doesn't post p's
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[Feb 24,2008 9:04pm - thegreatspaldino ""]

Dan%20LaRocque said:Go to school, and learn to spell.



Point out my erroneous ways, oh, Professor Whinesalot!
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[Feb 24,2008 9:12pm - the_reverend ""]
their last name is in fact dewire. close enough to complain about spellng but not enough to correct it like you english teacher.
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[Feb 24,2008 9:14pm - archaeon ""]

Paul%20Patrick said:i agree, I wish we could all just get along and enjoy making good memories with good music.


There's where you're wrong. If you were making good music we would then have good memories. but you see, you're not.

You're not going to win anything on RTTP, only a badge of faggoty that will follow your band around.
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[Feb 24,2008 9:15pm - thegreatspaldino ""]

archaeon said:
Paul%20Patrick said:i agree, I wish we could all just get along and enjoy making good memories with good music.


There's where you're wrong. If you were making good music we would then have good memories. but you see, you're not.

You're not going to win anything on RTTP, only a badge of faggoty that will follow your band around.




they have one of those, it's called their music. have you checked out the myspace? hahaha.
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[Feb 24,2008 9:16pm - the_reverend ""]
omg.. DYA make a faggy badge STAT using a picture of richorror's gaped maw.
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[Feb 24,2008 9:17pm - archaeon ""]
haha I have. I think I'm playing with them in another band I'm in thats not metal. Can't wait to see how amazing they are.
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[Feb 24,2008 9:18pm - the_reverend ""]
/me invokes DestroyYouALot
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[Feb 24,2008 9:18pm - archaeon ""]
haha new jersey tour. thats fucking embarrassing.
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[Feb 24,2008 9:20pm - Paul Patrick  ""]
i'm sorry we dont make patheticly simplistic mosh metal.

get a life and bitch about somthing useful.

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[Feb 24,2008 9:21pm - archaeon ""]

Paul%20Patrick said:i'm sorry we dont make patheticly simplistic mosh metal.

get a life and bitch about somthing useful.




hahahahahahahaha

you're so ignorant its awesome.

Archaeon has been know to destroy graphing calculators within a 50 foot radius
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[Feb 24,2008 9:22pm - the_reverend ""]
rumor is that I only like hateblood.
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[Feb 24,2008 9:45pm - thegreatspaldino ""]

Paul%20Patrick said:i'm sorry we dont make patheticly simplistic mosh metal.

get a life and bitch about somthing useful.





flavor of the weeeeeeeeeeeeeeek


P.S. i listened to a song on your myspace... something about mary or whatever. anyways, first riff in it is definitely the same as one from a pathetic band that a lot of 14 year old girls like. im tracking it down now and i will have the results soon... but anyways, i listened to it and immediately picked up my guitar that i play like once a year and jammed along to it almost perfectly. during the first listen. that breakdown at 1:46 is completely original... i seriously havent heard that one before... also nice touch with the bass boom there. that just amplifies your creative prowess. i never would have expected that to come after the snare drum build up. not in 1 kajillion years. nope, no sir-ee bob. didnt see it coming. by the way... ever heard of the Pen 15 club?
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[Feb 24,2008 9:50pm - Enter A Username Here?  ""]
If you refuse to accept criticism, you probably shouldn't be in the music industry. That's what it's all about
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[Feb 24,2008 9:53pm - archaeon ""]
Chapter 50 is pathetically simplistic mosh metal for 14 year old girls.

theres so many things about this band that I can bash that I don't know where to begin.
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[Feb 24,2008 10:10pm - bryanvetrone  ""]
I see you kids from returntothepit havent changed since the last time I've been on here. God, what was that like 3 fucking years ago? You kids are truly pathetic. You're like the annoying gossip girls from high school of music forums. Honestly, I think 95% of the posts on this site are from kids not in bands, or in shitty bands that are jealous of any band thats further than them.There's no reason to talk bad about every band on this site. You kids clearly have no idea how much work goes into a band, and therefor have no respect towards it. Chapter 50 is a hard working band, I know each member personally, and ALL of them are wicked nice dudes and don't deserve the crap you kids are giving them. So grow up, and stop with this internet bashing because it's really pathetic and old. You kids make almost all the bands in the area hate RTTP because this shit is almost guaranteed to happen.
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[Feb 24,2008 10:13pm - the_reverend ""]
I didn't know kids were allowed here. msd needs to notify the registry if he wants to come back here then
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[Feb 24,2008 10:13pm - Sarah Tudisco  ""]
I don't even know where to begin here.

To a lot of you:
Go fuck yourselves.

If you don't like Chapter 50's music, don't fucking listen to it.

If you don't like the members of Chapter 50, don't fucking talk to them.

Talking shit isn't going to get you dickheads anywhere.

Never does, and it never will.

I've had the chance to get to know every member of Chapter 50.

They're cool guys. Hands down.

And about the music they make.

Is different, and is a mix of two different genres.

Making them something unique.

And something I personally enjoy to listen and watch live.

Music is music.

Bitching about it isn't going to make them change their style, nor their outlook on bringing the music to a greater audience.

Who fucking cares if they're touring in New Jersey?

As Dan said, they're getting their name out there.

This is their passion. This is their life.

They're actually doing something with their talent than going online and bitching about every damn thing that comes to mind.

Does anyone on this forum know how to do anything besides bitch and complain on the internet?

Guess not.

Let a life fuckers.
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[Feb 24,2008 10:18pm - archaeon ""]

bryanvetrone said:You kids clearly have no idea how much work goes into a band, and therefor have no respect towards it. Chapter 50 is a hard working band, I know each member personally, and ALL of them are wicked nice dudes and don't deserve the crap you kids are giving them. So grow up, and stop with this internet bashing because it's really pathetic and old. You kids make almost all the bands in the area hate RTTP because this shit is almost guaranteed to happen.


Yes it is guaranteed that people on RTTP will make fun of bands that fucking suck because keep it fuckin r33l ya heard. OMG dere hard working then we should go easy on them. Who cares, learn to grow some balls and realize that not everyone is going to like your favorite band especially when you sound like everything to come out in the XmetalcoreX scene in the last 4 years.
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[Feb 24,2008 10:21pm - archaeon ""]

said:
Does anyone on this forum know how to do anything besides bitch and complain on the internet?



yes, how to bitch and complain in real life.

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[Feb 24,2008 10:32pm - Matt Blanchette  ""]
My name Matt Blanchette, I used to play in the metal band called A Familiar Terror before we broke up just over a month ago. People tell me that my band was high up in the ranks of the NH scene and if that is true then I have to say that we would of never made it anywhere without the friendship and support we had from people like all the members of Chapter 50. We played many many shows with them, and they treated us like family. Them and their manager/band dad Ron (Not really sure how to label him haha (I <3 you Ron)) got A Familiar Terror onto a bunch of shows that we would never have gotten on without their help. We've driven hundreds of miles to the same shows, and both not recieved payment for many of these shows forcing us all to pay gas out of pocket. I have never seen a single member of this band ever have a negative comment to say, and if you think they came off as douchebags then you dont know them.

Grow up and dont talk trash until you've worked your friggen ass off in a band and made friends with hundreds of the nicest people you will ever meet...including the members of Chapter 50.
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[Feb 24,2008 10:33pm - Sarah Tudisco  ""]
Holy shit!

You know how to bitch in real life too?!

Wow...I bet you get a real hard on from bitching.

Do you know how to do anything else?

It gets old after a while, you know.
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[Feb 24,2008 10:34pm - archaeon ""]
blahblah
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[Feb 24,2008 10:36pm - bryanvetrone  ""]

archaeon said:
bryanvetrone said:You kids clearly have no idea how much work goes into a band, and therefor have no respect towards it. Chapter 50 is a hard working band, I know each member personally, and ALL of them are wicked nice dudes and don't deserve the crap you kids are giving them. So grow up, and stop with this internet bashing because it's really pathetic and old. You kids make almost all the bands in the area hate RTTP because this shit is almost guaranteed to happen.


Yes it is guaranteed that people on RTTP will make fun of bands that fucking suck because keep it fuckin r33l ya heard. OMG dere hard working then we should go easy on them. Who cares, learn to grow some balls and realize that not everyone is going to like your favorite band especially when you sound like everything to come out in the XmetalcoreX scene in the last 4 years.



That's completely fine. But just because you don't like the way a band sounds doesn't mean they suck. You're no better than all the mainstream people that say all this music is, is screaming. You're allowed not to like a band, but that doesn't mean you should go around bashing the shit out of them. Because
a. it's their music, their sound, and their band. I'm really sorry that they don't play to your liking. If it's one thing I respect about Chapter 50 is that they dare to be different in such a stubborn music scene.
b. you should be a better human being and instead of making fun of them, just turn a cheek. there's a big difference from constructive criticism, and bashing. And I haven't seen any good criticism from any of this.

So much hard work and commitment goes into a band, and it does hurt when you know how much you've put into it and someone tells you that you "suck". If you don't like it, keep it to yourself. Bottom line. There's no reason at all for this childish shit. Wither Chapter 50 is the greatest thing to walk on stage, they deserve enough respect for actually getting on it that you kids blatantly disregard because you don't like their genre. And I think that's just sad.
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[Feb 24,2008 10:42pm - archaeon ""]

bryanvetrone said:
a. it's their music, their sound, and their band. I'm really sorry that they don't play to your liking. If it's one thing I respect about Chapter 50 is that they dare to be different in such a stubborn music scene.



lol
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[Feb 24,2008 11:16pm - ConquerTheBaphomet ""]
I don't think it's cool for a band to ask their fans to come to this site and defend their favorite band knowing full well they'll never come back here again.

Whoever's idea it was to do that, don't ever do that again.
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[Feb 24,2008 11:24pm - Murph nli  ""]
This is the most superfluous, misdirected thread I've read in awhile.

I'd say most of the people on this board would not (on a regular basis or at all) listen to or even like my band, but you know why none of us whine about it or get defensive?

Because we'd rather laugh at pictures of animals fucking people. And I like to stare at pictures of Mark Richards and Niccolai until my eyes start to blur them into one person, like in my dreams.

Some people just like their cucumbers pickled, so fucking deal with it and find other stuff on this board (along with probably a bunch of trollers who frequent this site, don't post, and just might like your music) and laugh about it, because this place is more American than penis envy.
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[Feb 24,2008 11:33pm - urinal turd  ""]

Sarah%20Tudisco said:Holy shit!

You know how to bitch in real life too?!

Wow...I bet you get a real hard on from bitching.

Do you know how to do anything else?

It gets old after a while, you know.




tits or gtfo
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[Feb 24,2008 11:49pm - Arist ""]

Murph%20nli said:
Because we'd rather laugh at pictures of animals fucking people.



Amen
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[Feb 25,2008 2:18am - turdnugget  ""]
eh all i ahve to say is chapters 1-6 is where its a
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[Feb 25,2008 10:06am - thegreatspaldino ""]

Sarah%20Tudisco said:I don't even know where to begin here.


then don't start.



And about the music they make.

Is different, and is a mix of two different genres.

Making them something unique.




why would you say anything like that when you know, since you obviously dig this kind of music, that they sound like a sloppy version of everything else out there? i cant tell you one thing thats different. MAYBE put a little extra effort in there to suck an extra dick or two between or during the build up to open chord chuggity chug breakdowns that are, chug for chug, exactly the same as everyone else and that are stale as hell.

this is the internet. you will not find salvation here when you are a flavor of the week whiny metalcore band. you might find a group of middle schools or guys in girl pants saying "hey nice band LOL!!!!" but that wont be the case anywhere else.

if you want actual constructive criticism:

i listened to all of the songs on your myspace. your drummer needs to be tighter. thats the main thing. another huge thing is you really need to work on singing in tune, ESPECIALLY when there are dual vocal "harmonies". seriously, i actually physically shuddered a couple times. hell, my GF who was doing something else (playing WoW actually) turned around a few times and said "wow, this is terrible, turn it off" and "why are you listening to this?" and she likes some pretty terrible bands (circle takes the square, norma jean, the used, etc etc). and the final piece of advice is: just stop doing open chord breakdowns! honestly, if you want to be different, or try to be atleast, just stop doing them. in a genre of music such as yours, 99% of the fans listen to bands and go to shows for the MOSH PARTS and SING-A-LONGS and thats it. the other 90-10% of the music is just filler and gives them time to catch a breather for their next crowd punch opportunity. (depending on the band, because some bands are like 90% breakdowns).


yes, sorry for bringing this thread up again, but i fell asleep last night after my last post and missed out on the dudes coming in to defend their friends. did the band call all of you and tell you that big meaniefaces were insulting them? hahaha.
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[Feb 25,2008 5:08pm - Kristina  ""]
Chapter 50 is a great band. They are constantly improving their music and show performances. I know the band members personally and they are nice people.

For those people who said that they were "cocky" or said that they have a "bad attitude", who are you to judge? do you even know them. NO, you probably don't so dont judge them. For all the people writing negativity You're the one with the bad attitude. Learn how to be respectful.

As for "their parents buying their equiptment", how would you know? you weren't there. I was there and watched Dan buy his full stacks with his own money.

They are on tour right now in New Jersey trying to get their name out there. They dont need people who know nothing about music to give them bad feedback. If you have nothing nice to say, then keep your mouth shut.
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[Feb 25,2008 5:12pm - archaeon ""]
TITS OR GTFO
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[Feb 25,2008 5:18pm - brian_dc ""]
I don't know what's going on in this thread but I think we should all just rally around boobs
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[Feb 25,2008 5:25pm - kelsey  ""]
For all of you who say that Chapter Fifty has a "bad attitude" or is "cocky" you have no idea. You honestly need to get to know a person BEFORE you say anything about them. I have known Chapter Fifty for a few years now. I know them all personally. They are some of the best people i have met in a very very long time. And some of you people at these shows, are the most disrespectful, inconsiderate people i have ever met in my life. You don't have any respect for anybody but yourselves. And if you say that they make "sucky" music, WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE?! You can't say anything except for your opinion. If that IS your opinion YOU CAN SPEAK IT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THIS FAR! You seriously need to GROW UP and learn how to RESPECT. And for going online like every two seconds to post something new?! You really need to get lives. Honestly, if you don't like their music, then don't listen. You don't have to bash everything online. That's sooo stupid. Just because its different and not the same stupid hardcore over and over again. Just because the song isnt the same two chords the whole way through the song doesn't mean that it's not good. You have to be open minded about things. Music these days is getting to be wayyyy toooo picky. And again if you dont like them, then don't listen to them. You don't have to talk about it online. Thats just being super super disrespectful AND annoying. I find Chapter Fifty to be the most diverse band out of all of you! Most of you are probably not even in bands. And as for "the parents probably buy everything for them, because the tags are still on it" thats a completely stupid thing to say. Just because the tags are still on doesnt mean anything. I was there when they ALL bought their own equipment. They buy it with their OWN money, because they have JOBS. something some of you have probably never even heard of. That way they can really call it theirs, and be proud of what they have, because THEY BOUGHT IT WITH THEIR OWN MONEY. They work hard to be where they are today. They have come a really long way, and they WILL go places in life, unlike some of you. They have good attitudes, and are respectful to EVERYONE they meet. The least you could do is give them some respect. They deserve it. They work so hard. And if you say stuff about New Jersey, who are you to say?! There is a big scene in New Jersey, and they are getting their name out there. And unlike most of the bands out there, they actually TALK TO THEIR FANS, and actually care about them. They care for, and have respect for everyone they meet. All of you should try to do the same. They are wonderful wonderful people, and they are excellent at what they do...which is making GREAT, BEAUTIFUL music. They actually are trying something different, and are putting effort into their music. It's actually difficult to write this kind of music, because there are more than two chords in it. I love their music and always will. So all of you need to stop being so disrespectful, and rude. Really get lives. They are the most amazing people I have ever met in my life. And I love each and every one of them with all my heart, they have a special place in my heart that can NEVER be replaced.
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[Feb 25,2008 5:31pm - archaeon ""]

kelsey said:It's actually difficult to write this kind of music, because there are more than two chords in it.

orly?
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[Feb 25,2008 5:33pm - cav ""]
chapter 50 thats a long book
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[Feb 25,2008 5:35pm - BRE  ""]
This is in response to all of the above. RTTP! I would like to say thanks in part for having this forum. I believe that everyone has the right to express there feelings, and opinions abroad. As for the fore mentioned constructive criticism. You are correct the drums in those songs on the Chapter Fifty myspace needed to be tighter, as well as the harmonies to some respect. I should know, and I have no problem with saying the above, as I am the FATHER to the drummer.

How-ever I want all of the above to know that those songs were written, and mostly recorded when they were only 15 to 17 years of age with the exception of one of the songs listed on there myspace.
Hindsight being 20 / 20 maybe they should have waited before recording, but it was ME, that wanted them to record, and it was ME who had them on a tight budget that kept them from putting in more time, and money that was apparently needed. So if there is criticism to be made direct it to ME! I wish you all could understand the amount of work and money that goes into recording. They paid for everything. They always do. Every piece of there equipment was bought and paid for by all the members, especially DAN. He puts more money, heart, sweat, and energy into this band that does not get recognized, and needs to be. This is there passion! One thing you can not knock, well maybe you will, is the amount of energy they give night in, and night out when they play! For there age, and time as a band they have accomplished more than I could ever have imagined.

Everyone likes different styles of music, and they should! Its nice to see that certain people are extremely passionate about it. I just ask that the ones who comment remember that the bands you do love, and support work no harder than most of the band’s you don’t appreciate. Just think hard before you write, and comment, and think hard if it were all happening to you! Why bust “And Then There Were None” balls because they changed there style of music. They were hard working awesome guys prior to the change, and are now! The fact that a band does not play your style at all or no longer does not mean they change as people.

These kids at times may come off brash, and when they do they usually realize it, and quickly change there demeanor. How ever there are those times when they don’t, and it is usually because they are in great moods about things, and they are not thinking of what may be going on around them. I have been around these guys in every forum there is. The passion they have about there music, and one another are unlike things I have ever seen. Do they make mistakes? All the time! Every single day. In the end though, they thank god every single day for what they have. This group of guys call them selves family. They truly care for one another as family. These guys are all sons of mine. They are part of my family. They would never, ever, in any time, place or era hurt anyone or think they are above anyone. That is against everything they believe in.

As far as a girlfriend telling them to turn off Chapter Fifty, its probably because she was pissed when she found out that all already had girlfriends.

P/S Again RTTP thanks, and hope to see you again! Some of the Pictures are awesome!
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[Feb 25,2008 5:35pm - Kristina  ""]
Kelsey and i both know them way more than you do. Learn how to be respectful and stop post all this BS. They've worked hard for where they are today and are going somewhere with their lives.

For those people saying that New Jersey isnt a tour at all, who are you to say? You're not in a band and have never been on tour. You're at home playing guitar hero or rockband because you wish you were in an actual band. You have no idea how much time and dedication this band puts into all of their stuff.
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[Feb 25,2008 5:38pm - brian_dc ""]
BOOBS
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[Feb 25,2008 5:45pm - Kinslayer  ""]
I've never even heard of Chapter 50...do they have shotgun-blast hair cuts, saftey beards and ironic t-shirts? if not then they can fuck right off!
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[Feb 25,2008 5:47pm - BRE  ""]
kinslayer

matter of fact they all do!
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[Feb 25,2008 5:47pm - thegreatspaldino ""]
nothing but a bunch of scene bitches that do/want to bang the like totally hawt guys in the band coming on here spouting shit about the band's personality. musically i could give two shits if they shit in a toddler's bottle and raped 15 elderly people a night... their music is garbage, cookie cutter, gener-a-thon grade metalbore.

future tip for the little girls posting on here like us guys give a shit. unless you're handing us our dinner and a beer or sucking our dicks, shut the fuck up... that applies for here and for out in the real world. post nudes or keep your posts to yourself.
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[Feb 25,2008 5:48pm - archaeon ""]

Kristina said:Kelsey and i both know them way more than you do. Learn how to be respectful and stop post all this BS. They've worked hard for where they are today and are going somewhere with their lives.

For those people saying that New Jersey isnt a tour at all, who are you to say? You're not in a band and have never been on tour. You're at home playing guitar hero or rockband because you wish you were in an actual band. You have no idea how much time and dedication this band puts into all of their stuff.



Dear Bitch,
If you have something better to do with with your life than "try" to talk sense into a bunch of faggots then go fuck off and do something. NO ONE cares what you say. You clearly have no taste in music considering that you're a woman and are friends/whore of this band.

The vast majority of this board are in bands that have done more for the local music scene than Chapter 50 if will. New Jersey isn't a tour its just a home to wiggers and faggots that are 2 years behind the current music scene.

I could write an entire album in the style of Chapter 50 record all the instruments in a few days.

Just because youve seen your bros in Chapter 50 live and sport their gear and hang out with them and shit doesnt mean you know ANYTHING about the local music scene.

You've summoned a monster. It's name is RTTP.

P.S.
TITS OR GTFO
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[Feb 25,2008 5:53pm - cav ""]

BRE said:This is in response to all of the above. RTTP! I would like to say thanks in part for having this forum. I believe that everyone has the right to express there feelings, and opinions abroad. As for the fore mentioned constructive criticism. You are correct the drums in those songs on the Chapter Fifty myspace needed to be tighter, as well as the harmonies to some respect. I should know, and I have no problem with saying the above, as I am the FATHER to the drummer.

How-ever I want all of the above to know that those songs were written, and mostly recorded when they were only 15 to 17 years of age with the exception of one of the songs listed on there myspace.
Hindsight being 20 / 20 maybe they should have waited before recording, but it was ME, that wanted them to record, and it was ME who had them on a tight budget that kept them from putting in more time, and money that was apparently needed. So if there is criticism to be made direct it to ME! I wish you all could understand the amount of work and money that goes into recording. They paid for everything. They always do. Every piece of there equipment was bought and paid for by all the members, especially DAN. He puts more money, heart, sweat, and energy into this band that does not get recognized, and needs to be. This is there passion! One thing you can not knock, well maybe you will, is the amount of energy they give night in, and night out when they play! For there age, and time as a band they have accomplished more than I could ever have imagined.

Everyone likes different styles of music, and they should! Its nice to see that certain people are extremely passionate about it. I just ask that the ones who comment remember that the bands you do love, and support work no harder than most of the band’s you don’t appreciate. Just think hard before you write, and comment, and think hard if it were all happening to you! Why bust “And Then There Were None” balls because they changed there style of music. They were hard working awesome guys prior to the change, and are now! The fact that a band does not play your style at all or no longer does not mean they change as people.

These kids at times may come off brash, and when they do they usually realize it, and quickly change there demeanor. How ever there are those times when they don’t, and it is usually because they are in great moods about things, and they are not thinking of what may be going on around them. I have been around these guys in every forum there is. The passion they have about there music, and one another are unlike things I have ever seen. Do they make mistakes? All the time! Every single day. In the end though, they thank god every single day for what they have. This group of guys call them selves family. They truly care for one another as family. These guys are all sons of mine. They are part of my family. They would never, ever, in any time, place or era hurt anyone or think they are above anyone. That is against everything they believe in.

As far as a girlfriend telling them to turn off Chapter Fifty, its probably because she was pissed when she found out that all already had girlfriends.

P/S Again RTTP thanks, and hope to see you again! Some of the Pictures are awesome!



this thread just got a whole lot better. hahahha.

seriously guys you gotta have better things to do on tour than call your dad and bitch about getting bashed on a message board.

also guys, this is pretty much a black/death/grind board more focused on random image threads and talking shit about each other for a laugh than actually talking about music. also, there are probably 4 people that post here that like metalcore. dont be offended what people say here. it doesnt matter and it wont have any effect on how much "success" you have as a band.
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[Feb 25,2008 6:40pm - paul 2  ""]
Wait their drummers dad posted??? HAHAHAHAHA!!! I love the statment " WEVE PAYED OUT OF OUR POCKET AND GOT NO GAS MONEY" Litsen up I havent heard youre band do youre own thing thats cool. Ive been in bands playing shows for a long time now and ill tell you, ITS NO BIG FUCKING DEAL you'll find you will hardly get paid or get more then 10 dollars for gas money. Stop having youre 14 year old lady friends and band dads posting. You look dumb and will continue to be made fun of if you do this.
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[Feb 25,2008 6:47pm - Dan LaRocque  ""]
As a member of the band I completely agree with cav, the difference in styles of music create more tension between groups, I think we realize what these people say doesnt have any effect on us as a band, thanks for being down to earth man.
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[Feb 25,2008 6:49pm - brian_dc ""]
we always get paid all the money in the world ever...Its easy. You just ask and they give it to you. Seriously. Try it out.
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[Feb 25,2008 6:56pm - paul 2  ""]
Ok I listened to this band. I usually dont start shit or say too much on this board anymore. But you guys suck fucking shit threw a dirty coke straw. All of you are faggots and I hope youre strings break and guitars go out of tune the next time you play live. Are you guys at least getting blowies from those scene hookers you call fans?? Please dont wear a hardyhat next time you bang something with dyed black hair. I hope all the babies you have come out retarded. And band dad, shut the fuck up, your making youre sons face turn red with embarrassment. You idiots arent doing anything new, and its bands like this with their eyes on $$$$ who ruin the music scene. Go choke on youre valentines day gift or something.
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[Feb 25,2008 6:57pm - archaeon ""]

paul%202 said:Go choke on youre valentines day gift or something.


hahahaha that line kicks ass
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[Feb 25,2008 7:01pm - xanonymousx ""]
wow...
my two cents....
people will always have opinions of your band.
i wasn't there but maybe those few people who encountered the band got a bad vibe for whatever reason i can't say.
but i do know there will be people that like you and there are people that do not.
this happens to the nicest people around, but yeah not everyone is going love your band....
and its the INTERNET.
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[Feb 25,2008 7:05pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
same ole song and dance.
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[Feb 25,2008 7:31pm - archaeon ""]
haha it is confirmed that i will be playing with this band. can't wait to see/meet them.
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[Feb 25,2008 9:26pm - archaeon ""]
well that was an interesting phone call.
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[Feb 25,2008 9:40pm - urinal turd  ""]
this has the potential of epic threadedness
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[Feb 25,2008 9:48pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
i cant wait till this ends up on a news segment about destroying the common good. then it will be epic.
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[Feb 25,2008 9:49pm - archaeon ""]
eh im done. i talked to the band on the phone. We laugh, we cried, they seem like decent guys. sumtimez i just get caught up in lulfest and womanhatred fest.
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[Feb 25,2008 9:52pm - FuckIsMySignature ""]
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[Feb 25,2008 9:56pm - the_reverend ""]
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[Feb 25,2008 9:57pm - Archaeon ""]
404
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[Feb 25,2008 11:12pm - douchebag_patrol ""]

archaeon said:P.S.
TITS OR GTFO



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[Feb 25,2008 11:32pm - deadlikemurf ""]
i fucking love this place.
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[Feb 26,2008 12:08am - Dan LaRocque  ""]
This message board is fucking awesome, this whole thing went in a complete 180 turn. Thanks guys.
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[Feb 26,2008 1:31am - David Lee Roth  ""]
I think this band is very much well rounded.
They have a talent that can take them far if they choose to use it.
Their vocalist, however, looks to be very unlike the rest of the band.
I also noticed that they have a "light guy"
He should be recognized as a large part of the band for his effort.
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[Feb 26,2008 10:02am - largefreakatzero ""]
I'm glad metalcore is dying.
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[Feb 26,2008 10:19am - aids  ""]
very very lame band....
I enjoy how their dad and girlfriends made statements like they are the only band to have to pay out of their pockets....get a fucking clue.
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[Feb 26,2008 10:21am - brian_dc ""]
pssh...I mean, I get so many endorsements thrown at me, I accepted a DR string endorsement just so I'd have higher quality asshole floss
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[Sep 6,2008 5:03pm - dick fuck  ""]
this chick has no nipples
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[Sep 6,2008 5:04pm - Shaun Mangniel  ""]
yeh she has nice tits
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[Sep 7,2008 10:00am - brian_dc ""]
no one laughed at my funny 8 months ago and it kinda hurt a little today
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[Sep 7,2008 11:45am - Pires ""]
does this thread REALLY have 18000 plus views?
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[Sep 7,2008 12:30pm - brian_dc ""]
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