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[QUOTE="the_reverend:898662"]I do crate them usually, but I blocked off the downstairs so their couldn't get down there to shit. then one of them knocked that over and the other one went down in the night and shat EVERYWHERE. he basically had a couple minutes to do it in too. I have to be more strict and always put them in the crates at night. the younger dog goes and sleeps in his create anyhow. I don't need to close him in. it's the new (older) dog that needs the crate at night.[/QUOTE]

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