BASS NERD THREAD[views:19297][posts:103]________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:02pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] OH HAI DERE You know who you are. Let's nerd it up and talk low-end nonsense. TREBLE GUITAR PLAYERS FUCK OFF PLZ TEE HEE Ok, I start. Right-hand technique, gais: 321 or 123? Or 4321, and BTW fuck you 'cause I still suck at right-hand pinky picking? (I'm considering trying to play some "123" patterns just to get my dexterity up and to avoid getting my fingers too locked in to one pattern.) (Oh, and if this somehow isn't obvious, 1=index, 4=pinky.) |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:05pm - dreadkill ""] i'm a lefty |
| ______________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:06pm - Blue ""] 321 FTW |
| _________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:08pm - Martins ""] 246810 ftw |
| _______________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:09pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] whatever's comfortable. james Jamerson used his right index finger and that's it. It was nicknamed the hook,He was a Motown session bassist, but you knew that cuz yer a bass nerd. I use index and middle mostly on my Mann p-bass copy |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:13pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] I know of what you speak, El Brado Blanco. I actually need to work on not always defaulting to my ring finger on the "1". |
| ______________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:16pm - Blue ""] Did he use that lone finger for fast blasty stuff? I know i have trouble going hook style when doing origin songs lulz. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:34pm - thuringwethil ""] I use a pick. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:37pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] HERETIC |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:38pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] LOL - I played with a pick exclusively for over ten years. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:40pm - thuringwethil ""] bass is the shiz-nice. I'm so over guitar. list yer gear, Steve! Geek it up! |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:51pm - Czarnobóg ""] I've only ever played bass in thrashy punk or thrashy BM bands. All I know is buzzsaw picking. I've never even tried to play with my fingers. |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:58pm - narkybark ""] definitely R321 |
| _________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 2:59pm - C.DEAD ""] I like to finger my bass. For fast picking I turn my index into a pick however. I keep the nail a little long for that reason. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 3:39pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] At this point I'm faster with my fingers than I ever was with a pick, but I have been doing a lot of sharp chord strumming with the back edge of my nail. Tough to keep it even, volume-wise, but I'm getting to really like the sound. |
| ___________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 4:25pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] just gettin my callouses back from playin in my classic rock band. new strings are also awesomely awesome |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 5:48pm - badsneakers ""] I have always been a finger player..I suck at using a pick and up until this February I had never considered doing it. But with the new band sans guitar I wanted that pick sound and its proving to be tougher then I thought. blahh.. |
| _______________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 6:06pm - thuringwethil ""] bennyhillifier |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 6:53pm - metalguy_2 ""] The best way the three finger technique was ever explained was to start on the 1 finger and then start playing with the third and second finger. The finger that accents the one changes over and over so it can get confusing. It would look like this... 1321 3213 2132 |
| _________________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 6:54pm - deathfiend sli sli sli ""] weird, i never got the three finger thing, i just use index and middle and alternate them really fast |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 6:56pm - Blender_Method ""] 1 finger: depends on whats going on 2 finger: 12 3 finger: 123 4 finger: 1234 |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 7:04pm - Finger Fuck ""] Triplets and quad fingers... |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 7:15pm - Blender_Method ""] oh, and I forgot about the victor wooten double thumbing technique. I do this for a lot of fast parts. Definitely cant do the double pluck though. bennyhillifier |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 8:06pm - DrewBlood@Work ""] hi, im victor wooten. my hair is a tarantula. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 8:26pm - Blender_Method ""] DrewBlood@Work said:hi, im victor wooten. my hair is a tarantula. hahaha |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 8:37pm - Dave_Maggot ""] victor wooten is black?!? |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 8:38pm - MarkFuckingRichards ""] ELIOT BAYLESS IS BLACK?!? |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 8:39pm - Dave_Maggot ""] samuel l jackson is black?!? |
| __________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 9:06pm - Ilanuim ""] DestroyYouAlot said:At this point I'm faster with my fingers than I ever was with a pick, but I have been doing a lot of sharp chord strumming with the back edge of my nail. Tough to keep it even, volume-wise, but I'm getting to really like the sound. How fast and do you use the thumb at all? Are all of your four digits up to spead? |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 10:38pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Pretty fast, only when I'm hitting a thump I can't reach otherwise, and no. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 11,2009 10:54pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] thuringwethil said:bass is the shiz-nice. I'm so over guitar. list yer gear, Steve! Geek it up! FRUM UDDER FRED: LTD B155 > TECH21 SANSAMP BASS DRIVER DI > AMPEG SVT3 PRO > AMPEG CLASSIC 15" / POC CARVIN CRAPCAB 15" |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 12:50am - Beorht-Dana ""] When I do play with my fingers, I use the Steve Digiorgio method: 1-2-3-2-1-2-3-2-1-etc Most of the time I play with a pick though. My fingers suck at playing fast. Basses: Spector Euro 5-string, Carvin XB-75 fretless Boss Bass Chorus Ampeg b2-r amp Alesis 3630 compressor (piece of garbage, need to get rid of this) Ampeg 4x10" cab |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:02am - TheGreatSpaldino ""] soup /b/!111 bassfag here.... i mean... it all depends on what i am playing but i'm usually a 321 guy. i do a lot of 1 and 2 too. on really fast parts i do 3212321232etc pattern. when i try to play Bleed by Meshuggah i have to do a 321123321123 up and down stroking pattern. shit sucks. i do a little slap, but i suck at it, and dont have much of a need to do any real slap bass so it doesnt matter. my gear sucks Squier vintage modified jbass (upgraded active preamp) > 80's Randall guitar head > some 700 watt 4x10 peavey cab. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:06am - metalguy_2 ""] Beorht-Dana said:When I do play with my fingers, I use the Steve Digiorgio method: 1-2-3-2-1-2-3-2-1-etc Most of the time I play with a pick though. My fingers suck at playing fast. Basses: Spector Euro 5-string, Carvin XB-75 fretless Boss Bass Chorus Ampeg b2-r amp Alesis 3630 compressor (piece of garbage, need to get rid of this) Ampeg 4x10" cab not practical considering that one finger is doing most of the work |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 11:18am - Beorht-Dana ""] metalguy_2 said: Beorht-Dana said:When I do play with my fingers, I use the Steve Digiorgio method: 1-2-3-2-1-2-3-2-1-etc Most of the time I play with a pick though. My fingers suck at playing fast. Basses: Spector Euro 5-string, Carvin XB-75 fretless Boss Bass Chorus Ampeg b2-r amp Alesis 3630 compressor (piece of garbage, need to get rid of this) Ampeg 4x10" cab not practical considering that one finger is doing most of the work It is practical in the sense that your index finger is always on the down beat and you can therefor have a more consistent tonality. As someone said previously, James Jamerson only used ONE FINGER and he was a ridiculous player. Steve D plays 12321 so it can't be that bad. |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 12:23pm - badsneakers ""] would like to hear more about and see peoples gear!! |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 12:45pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Yeah, I don't think the 32123212 thing would work for me, but some pretty hot players use that technique (Steve "fuckin'" Di-G among them) so there must be something to it. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 12:50pm - arilliusbm ""] herugrim could have used that, dude. :\'( |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 12:58pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] You guys'll find somebody, dude. (Specifically "someone who can get along with everybody in the band.") |
| ________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:04pm - xmikex ""] YEAH! LET'S TALK SOME FUCKIN BASS! [img] |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:07pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] SML MTH ONLY, LRG MTH IS DILDOS |
| _______________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 1:27pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] this thread inspired me to breakout ICED EARTH'S Horror Show, thanks Thteve! |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 2:28pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Brad, it took a year or 7, but I'm now completely obsessed with that Control Denied record you turned me on to, for exactly the same reason. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 3:53pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] DestroyYouAlot said:Yeah, I don't think the 32123212 thing would work for me, but some pretty hot players use that technique (Steve "fuckin'" Di-G among them) so there must be something to it. steve uses only two fingers. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 3:58pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] bennyhillifier check at 1:57 |
| ___________________________ [Mar 12,2009 4:47pm - ""] dean custom zone bass ampeg svt350h head gallien krueger goldline 8x10 cab (not super happy with this guy) tech 21 sans amp |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 4:54pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] SANSAMP FTW |
| _____________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 5:05pm - dontlivefastjustdie ""] DestroyYouAlot said:SANSAMP FTW qft |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 5:07pm - dreadkill ""] TheGreatSpaldino said: DestroyYouAlot said:Yeah, I don't think the 32123212 thing would work for me, but some pretty hot players use that technique (Steve "fuckin'" Di-G among them) so there must be something to it. steve uses only two fingers. TheGreatSpaldino said: bennyhillifier check at 1:57 they were talking about steve digiorgio, not steve harris. either way, both are awesome players. |
| __________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 5:25pm - TheGreatSpaldino ""] SHIT... didnt notice that... im so fucked up on meds it isnt even funny |
| __________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 5:33pm - KPANZER ""] I use MOTORHEAD t-shirts and a little yellow pedal with two knobs. |
| ________________________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 11:01pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] DestroyYouAlot said:Brad, it took a year or 7, but I'm now completely obsessed with that Control Denied record you turned me on to, for exactly the same reason. *high five* |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 12,2009 11:56pm - Beorht-Dana ""] For anyone who's interested here is a link to a brief article Steve DiGiorgio wrote about his playing style. Nothing super profound, but interesting for bass nerds probably. ;) http://www.insaneguitar.com/mc/FingerStyleBass101.pdf |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 12:04am - DestroyYouAlot ""] KPANZER said:I use MOTORHEAD t-shirts and a little yellow pedal with two knobs. I want to get endorsed by Motorhead t-shirts. That would fucking rule. |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 12:05am - DestroyYouAlot ""] IllinoisEnemaBradness said: DestroyYouAlot said:Brad, it took a year or 7, but I'm now completely obsessed with that Control Denied record you turned me on to, for exactly the same reason. *high five* Hahaha - I just turned my drummer onto it and he's hooked too. Total rhythm section porn. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 12:28am - Murph ""] DestroyYouAlot said: IllinoisEnemaBradness said: DestroyYouAlot said:Brad, it took a year or 7, but I'm now completely obsessed with that Control Denied record you turned me on to, for exactly the same reason. *high five* Hahaha - I just turned my drummer onto it and he's hooked too. Total rhythm section porn. EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 12:58am - DestroyYouAlot ""] FUCKING EXACTLY. When that shit kicks in, and the bass, and the double bass, and OH SHIT NEW PANTS PLZ |
| ______________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 9:35am - Joshtruction ""] fender bassman 300 pro/sunn 300t. Thats bass nerd stuff. yum. |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 9:41am - DestroyYouAlot ""] That sounds like a tasty shade of brown. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 10:35am - Slymo NLI ""] i was hanging out with this dude a few weeks ago. |
| _____________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 10:36am - Slymo NLI ""] victor wooten that is |
| _______________________________ [Mar 13,2009 3:52pm - Seth ""] DestroyYouAlot said:You guys'll find somebody, dude. (Specifically "someone who can get along with everybody in the band.") if you mean me then, it was not getting along, it was compromising with what the band wanted and not what you just wanted. What was best for the band! Sorry if you were called out, but being in a band is compromise and working together! Giving and taking and not telling others you will and then dont! |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 3:56pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] LRN2BLST, PLZ |
| _______________________________ [Mar 13,2009 7:00pm - Seth ""] I would if you could do sixteen notes without putting triplets in there and singing in key! Thanks you. Sorry if i use normal english! |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 10:29pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] This thread isn't about band drama or your hurt feelings. Start a new one and I'll respond and lay out all your bullshit for everyone to laugh at. |
| _________________________________ [Mar 13,2009 11:23pm - Seth ""] Please keep believing my feelings are hurt. Sorry but you are mistaken for hurtness when I mentioned about a band. Then you had to take a shot at me about blasting!! so you started the drama. Go an read back before you say things. Thank you! |
| _________________________________________ [Mar 14,2009 12:37am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Ok, other thread now. This should be fun. |
| ________________________________ [Mar 14,2009 11:44am - Murph ""] "You are teh one who is the bastert" |
| ____________________________________ [Mar 14,2009 12:44pm - narkybark ""] IT IS YOU WHO ARE THE BALL LICKERS |
| ___________________________________ [Mar 14,2009 12:52pm - KPANZER ""] On a serious note, I am ashamed to admit the only gear I currently own is my bass.An entry level BC Rich Warlock.If you've seen me play live you can see why I'm not going to lay down alot of cash for something I use as a weapon.My amp/cab set-up of choice is the classic re-issue Ampeg SVT and the eight ten cab.I used to run two 8/10s.One on either side of the drums.Keep in mind I was competing against two full marshall stacks on either side.I play mainly with a pick, but I spent about 10 years playing strictly fingerstyle.I use an overdrive pedal insted of distortion.I try to go for a blend of Lemmy,Geezer Butler & Jon Entwistle.I also would cite Steve Harris,Duck Dunn, Berry Oakley and Allan Woody as major ispirations.But above all-CLIFF BURTON & GREG DELARIA |
| ________________________________________ [Mar 14,2009 6:20pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] I've been trying to figure out, in essence, Lemmy's playing with fingerstyle. That's where the downward fingernail strumming thing came from - playing Ace of Spades with no pick. Ended up sounding cooler than I expected, so I've been developing it from there. |
| ________________________________________ [May 5,2010 12:02am - DestroyYouAlot ""] This thread needs to come back. I just started playing my bass a) through the SansAmp, with b) the wet output through a shitty chorus, c) the dry output through a shitty guitar distortion, and d) the two sounds mixed into an A/B/Y pedal (wired backwards), into the front of my SVT. I'm still getting a lot of volume loss from the A/B (need to figure out a better signal loop solution) but turning up the SansAmp to compensate got me back into the "almost clipping" zone at the front of the amp. Sounds crazy, with the levels set right it "mwahs" like a fretless. |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2010 1:47am - narkybark ""] I have a really strange setup and it gives me a really strange sound but I dig it. |
| ________________________________________ [May 5,2010 3:50am - cobra slarship ""] i recently got my hands on a trace elliot v300h, its a hybrid tube/solid state head and i love the fucking thing. needs to be eq'd weird for the "klaus fluoride filling in for alex webster" sound i like, but once its there it sounds ballsy as hell. |
| _____________________________ [May 5,2010 7:34am - blue ""] Hahahaa cobra slarship I think my next conquest in bass nerdland is to finally upgrade my hartke ha3500. I'm sick of making my sansamp do all the work, I want something that growls as hard as I want it to. |
| ______________________________________________ [May 5,2010 8:37am - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] cobra%20slarship said: "klaus fluoride filling in for alex webster" that sounds heavenly I think if I were to start a band out here I would play bass, I have yet to see a band out here that has a bass player thats worth a shit. |
| _______________________________________ [May 5,2010 9:26am - DestroyYouAlot ""] IllinoisEnemaBradness said: cobra%20slarship said: "klaus fluoride filling in for alex webster" that sounds heavenly was thinkin the same thing, LOL |
| ________________________________ [May 5,2010 9:47am - c.DeaD ""] I use the DOD death metal pedal for my bass. Thing is a fucking beast. |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2010 10:47am - KPANZER ""] My poor B.C. Rich is a few days away from the grave after years of homnorable service to mankind. My new baby is going to be an all black with black hardware Jazz Bass copy called 'The Scorpion'. oooooooooooohhh, ssssssssssscorpion! |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2010 10:48am - KPANZER ""] that's right nigguh-HOMNORABLE |
| ________________________________________ [May 5,2010 10:53am - DestroyYouAlot ""] HOMONORABLE |
| ________________________________________ [May 5,2010 11:01am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Oh and Keith, I found that speaker cable, you guys are off the hook. LOL |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2010 11:01am - KPANZER ""] DARKWOR shirt becomes my jizz rag in 3....2...1 |
| ________________________________________ [May 5,2010 11:09am - DestroyYouAlot ""] Eric Tiwaz (Tyr) auditioning for Nile bennyhillifier |
| ________________________________________ [May 5,2010 11:12am - DestroyYouAlot ""] KPANZER said:DARKWOR shirt becomes my jizz rag in 3....2...1 Pfft - they come pre-jizzed, no worries sir. |
| __________________________________ [May 5,2010 11:17am - KPANZER ""] I KNEW there was no such thing as crunchy sleeves! ;) |
| ______________________________________________ [May 5,2010 1:20pm - IllinoisEnemaBradness ""] maybe it's just my crappy speakers, but I could barely hear the bass in that Nile audition video oh and crunchy cleeves....EEEWWWW! |
| ________________________________________ [May 5,2010 2:30pm - Jeff_met_aliens ""] c'mon, no Muff's mentioned yet? BassBigMuff into SVT 2-Pro/810. |
| ____________________________________________ [May 5,2010 2:39pm - dontlivefastjustdie ""] those pedals are rad but too fuzzed out for what i'm playing. i use a bbe green screamer... shit is awesome. |
| ________________________________________ [May 6,2010 5:20am - cobra slarship ""] KPANZER said:My poor B.C. Rich is a few days away from the grave after years of homnorable service to mankind. My new baby is going to be an all black with black hardware Jazz Bass copy called 'The Scorpion'. oooooooooooohhh, ssssssssssscorpion! keith, spend your money on a good cabinet instead, the warlock is still fixable...tho id be hard pressed to argue against the merits of a jazz jazz bass for few |
| ________________________________________ [May 6,2010 10:11am - obstaclecorpse ""] hail the bass big muff! Im trading my 2x15 for a Peavey 3620 (2x10+2x18) today.... fucking STOKED |
| _________________________________ [May 6,2010 10:14am - reimroc ""] WE ARE THE KEEPERS OF TIME FOR ALL ETERNITY. BOW FOR THOU TEMPO BE FOULED WITHOUT THE INQUISITIVE SOUND OF THE RHYTHM SECTION. |
| ______________________________ [May 6,2010 10:20am - blue ""] Bass big muff, bah. Only the big chrome NYC pedal is real. That's my numero uno choice for bass fuzz. That or a Z.Vex wooly mammoth. |
| _____________________________________________________ [May 6,2010 5:55pm - bradness so totally at work ""] obstaclecorpse said:hail the bass big muff! Im trading my 2x15 for a Peavey 3620 (2x10+2x18) today.... fucking STOKED oooof, I hope they redesigned the handles, the one Nick Kevorkian had had the wrist breakers on it, thing SUCKED to carry up stairs |
| ___________________________________ [May 6,2010 6:57pm - immortal13 ""] I should probably get something for some bass fuzz. Sansamp pedal here I come. |
| ___________________________________________ [May 6,2010 8:02pm - neverpurified nli ""] immortal13 said:I should probably get something for some bass fuzz. Sansamp pedal here I come. That wont really get you much fuzz, more like grit. For fuzz you want to go with the bass big muff, it lets you blend the clean and distorted signals, pretty rad |
| ____________________________________ [May 9,2010 10:15pm - Alx_Casket ""] [img] |
| ________________________________________________ [May 10,2010 2:45pm - matt_sways_in_the_wind ""] finallly... the bass thread. my setup for ya's: G&L L2000 tribute MIM P-Bass modded with a seymour duncan quarter pound split pickup and hipshot brass vintage bridge ibanez srx 390 next comes (in signal chain order): digitech whammy crybaby bass wah bass muff malasadas (made by dave martinka at B-Sharp music in pvd. get into it) electro harmonix deluxe memory boy radial effects looper out to the line6 bassPOD xt pro morley a/b/y a- goes to the boss ds-1 distortion modded at B-Sharp then into a fender bxr 200 1x18 combo with ds-1 running at all times for some dirt b- goes to the peavey mark VI into the '72 ampeg 8x10 |
| ________________________________________________ [May 10,2010 2:49pm - matt_sways_in_the_wind ""] on the subject of fuzz. colorsound fuzz pedals are hands down the best bass fuzz pedals i've ever heard. the tonebender and bass fuzz specifically |
| ________________________________________________ [May 10,2010 2:55pm - matt_sways_in_the_wind ""] sans amp... sounds like a bass signal plugged into a rubber glove. i used to use one all the time, until i realized i needed more mids in my life and considering the sans amp has fixed mids the only way i could get more mids was to lower the bass. who wants to pull out bass? needless to say i keep it around for that just in case moment. |
| __________________________________ [May 10,2010 3:01pm - brian_dc ""] just in case you want to sound like the kind of person who wears a condom to bed? |
| ________________________________________________ [May 10,2010 3:16pm - matt_sways_in_the_wind ""] just in case mast decides to play a show dressed up in giant condom suits and i want my bass sound to match my costume. |
| ________________________________________ [May 10,2010 3:57pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] matt_sways_in_the_wind said:sans amp... sounds like a bass signal plugged into a rubber glove. i used to use one all the time, until i realized i needed more mids in my life and considering the sans amp has fixed mids the only way i could get more mids was to lower the bass. who wants to pull out bass? needless to say i keep it around for that just in case moment. a) amp does that b) scoop bass+treb, bump level NO PROB, BRAH |
| __________________________________________ [May 10,2010 4:02pm - TRUCK BALLS NLI ""] [img] TUG ON ME |