Terminator Salvation[views:13913][posts:96]_______________________________________ [May 21,2009 2:26am - aaron_michael ""] if you're into the first two movies, don't waste your hard earned money. it's good for an action movie. for a Terminator movie, give me a fucking break. the crap they put in this movie left so many holes in the story. their logic is all fucked up and the only reason they threw Christian Bale into this is because he's a big name right now. "I'll be back", "Come with me if you want to live", fucking BLEGGGHHH. I know thinking too hard over a Terminator is pretty pathetic, but hey, I don't really give a shit. Terminator Salvation. Infuriating. |
______________________________________________ [May 21,2009 4:27am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Organ donor saves TechCom |
_________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:14am - reimroc ""] Hopefully Transformers 2 lives up to its name. I still think the animated movie is the best Transfomers film. |
____________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:21am - arilliusbm ""] awesome, this is exactly how I thought the film would have turned out. bring back james cameron. |
____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:29am - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] It sucks that hollywood has gone and tarnished the classic franchise films like Terminator and Alien. Terminator's I and II had great storyline's and so much potential, which makes it unfortunate that it will never be fully realized. |
____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:31am - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] And James Cameron is too busy trying to make 3D movies, which I'm all about. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-9948527-56.html |
______________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:46am - the_reverend ""] I have never watched a terminator, a diehard, or james bond movie. |
____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:47am - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] YOU'RE LYING ....right? |
____________________________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:48am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] I still want to see it. Did you people like Terminator 3? |
____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:49am - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] T3 was laughable at best. |
____________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:53am - arilliusbm ""] http://text.returntothepit.com/forum.php?id=52333&downlows=18 he's not lying |
______________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:55am - the_reverend ""] yeah, I saw the whole ride at universal twice. does that count? |
____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:57am - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] Sort of. The Terminator 3D ride is what T3 should have been, minus the fact it's only what? Half an hour long? |
___________________________________________ [May 21,2009 9:59am - FuckIsMySignature ""] i'm one of the few that liked T3. i have a feeling i'm not gonna like this though. i'll see Star Trek first...and go to T4 shit hammered |
_____________________________________________________ [May 21,2009 10:02am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Same here. I liked T3 a lot. I thought they did a pretty good job at un-80-erizing Skynet and making it distributed processing instead of a giant super computer. And it was cool seeing all the early terminator prototype robots. I bet I'll like this new movie. |
___________________________________ [May 21,2009 10:08am - ddrummer ""] did you guys here that Bale was not originally casted as Connor but as a terminator(like Arnold) and he said " i want to play john connor" and the writers were like well, JC is not a major part and he said im john connor or I walk and they rewrote the whole script to make john connor the main character so they could have christian bale as the main role. |
_____________________________________ [May 21,2009 10:11am - arilliusbm ""] Dark Knight aside, I am starting to not like Bale and his damn ego |
_____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 10:13am - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] But Bale is what almost ruined the Dark Knight entirely. His "batman voice" was downright pedophilic. |
________________________________ [May 21,2009 10:21am - Pires ""] I liked t4. Saw it Tuesday. Good action flick. Story was so so. |
_____________________________________________________ [May 21,2009 10:28am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] ddrummer said:did you guys here that Bale was not originally casted as Connor but as a terminator(like Arnold) and he said " i want to play john connor" and the writers were like well, JC is not a major part and he said im john connor or I walk and they rewrote the whole script to make john connor the main character so they could have christian bale as the main role. I heard that when they were considering him in the batman movies he threatened to kidnap everyone's daughters and would tattoo "I'm Christian Bale and I'm awesome" on their foreheads if they didn't give him the contract he wanted. Part of the contract involved resurrecting Hitler's corpse and taking over the world driving around in the prop car from the flintstones movie armed with only a 9mm beretta and a catapult that launched puppies. Did you guys hear that? |
_____________________________________ [May 21,2009 10:31am - arilliusbm ""] haha you know they had to edit the batman voice to make it sounds deeper? I think it was both Bale and the sound engineers that made Batman sounds like your friendly neighbor that lives next door and has blankets and jizz in the back of his van |
_______________________________________________ [May 21,2009 10:57am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] I heard Christian Bale refused to play Patrick Bateman unless Bret Easton Ellis personally rewrote the script to completely fall apart after the first 45 minutes of the movie. |
____________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:05am - dreadkill ""] the batman voice was ridiculous. it almost sunk the movie. "im not wearing hockey pants." he sounded like clint eastwood with throat aids from gargling jizz. |
_____________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:10am - arilliusbm ""] you know what's funny though? Christian Bale isn't even that good of an actor? And how is he a fucking action star? Dude's no where close to being as jacked as all the premier action stars: Arnold, Norris, Segal, Arnold, The Rock (sadly), Vin Diesel (sadly), Arnold, and Chan. |
_____________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:10am - arilliusbm ""] And Van Damme. How could we forget him. |
_______________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:12am - NOT THE FBI ""] How could you forget Rutger Hauer?? |
_______________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:15am - the_reverend ""] aril is an awesome actor. here's why, you can convince any girl to go see a movie because the girl gets to look at/get wet from bale and you get to see Batman or Psychokillers instead of legally blonde 3 |
_____________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:17am - arilliusbm ""] i'm an awesome actor? sweet.. where's my contract, bitch |
_____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:17am - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] Get wet from some Aussie with a god complex? Yeah, sounds like a females type. |
_____________________________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:28am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Yeah I'm surprised batman did as well as it did. I have a very high tolerance for bad acting and I actually NOTICED that Bale didn't do anything special. Maybe that's just the character, though. I don't know. I don't remember Michael Keaton doing anything too crazy range-wise to play Batman. |
__________________________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:30am - markrichardsmobilefuck ""] I enjoyed T3 simply because it was ridiculously over the top and that's what I look for in action movies. Anyone who expected that movie to follow the first 2 and do them justice is just as foolish as someone who expects their favorite band to continue releasing the perfect and/or the same album. That's just my viewpoint on stuff like this. I'll see the new one and most likely enjoy it for an action film, and nothing more. |
_____________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:34am - arilliusbm ""] just as the Joker said: "this city needs a new class of criminal" .. well, these movies need a "new class of action star" because Vin Diesel doesn't cut it, Bale doesn't cut it, and The Rock doesn't cut it. We need another Stallone or Arnold. |
_____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:35am - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] markrichardsmobilefuck said: Anyone who expected that movie to follow the first 2 and do them justice is just as foolish as someone who expects their favorite band to continue releasing the perfect and/or the same album. Exactly why I stopped going to the movies long ago. Exactly why I don't check out new bands and cease supporting bands I did like, who lost their aesthetic appeal. Quite unfortunate that we can't expect consistency out of anything. |
__________________________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:38am - markrichardsmobilefuck ""] I definitely agree with you Mike. I'm a bit more tolerant and accepting of change, but at the same time I'll abandon something that changes for the worse so much that I find no redeeming qualities left. |
______________________________ [May 21,2009 1:17pm - Yeti ""] BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said:I heard Christian Bale refused to play Patrick Bateman unless Bret Easton Ellis personally rewrote the script to completely fall apart after the first 45 minutes of the movie. hahaha yeah that movie was bad. the book was even worse. what a waste of time reading that was. |
__________________________________________ [May 21,2009 1:32pm - MillenialKingdom ""] arilliusbm said:just as the Joker said: "this city needs a new class of criminal" .. well, these movies need a "new class of action star" because Vin Diesel doesn't cut it, Bale doesn't cut it, and The Rock doesn't cut it. We need another Stallone or Arnold. The Rock isn't that bad. I've liked his movies. |
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____________________________________ [May 21,2009 1:48pm - arilliusbm ""] I'm sorry but Arnold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Rock. The Rock is way better than Vin Diesel too. |
______________________________________ [May 21,2009 1:51pm - secretgoblin ""] I remember when T2 came out and there was outrage from some fans about how a sequal was only ruining T1's legacy, the CGI was horrible, Ed Furlong was a terrible John Conner and so on. I was reading this crap all over the net untill T3 came out and all of the sudden, T2 was a perfect movie that was as vital as the first. I'm seeing a pattern forming here. |
____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 1:54pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] T2 ruled. The only flaw was the "I know now why you cry" gayness. |
____________________________________ [May 21,2009 1:55pm - arilliusbm ""] The ending of T2 is pretty sad. With the thumbs up sinking in the molten metal. Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it. |
____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 1:56pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] :krusty: |
____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 1:57pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] Robert Patrick as the T-1000 = Serious win. |
____________________________________ [May 21,2009 2:00pm - arilliusbm ""] Here's a long shot here... but Robert Patrick did the voice of the main character of perhaps one of the best computer games ever made: "The Dig" came out around 1995 or so. Speilberg teamed with Lucas Arts to make this science-fiction computer game and it has perhaps one of the best fucking stories ever. I sincerely hope they make it into a movie and Robert Patrick plays the main character. Anyone remember it? |
____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 2:02pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] I remember it. Just like I remember another (now) obscure Patrick title by the name of "Fire in the Sky". The alien abduction scene is still haunting to this day. |
____________________________________ [May 21,2009 2:05pm - arilliusbm ""] one of my favorite movies of all time. also the inspiration for Hypocrisy's song "Fire in the Sky" Peter is obsessed with alien lore |
____________________________________________ [May 21,2009 2:06pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] Robert Patrick's interruption at the town hall meeting was Oscar worthy. |
___________________________________________ [May 21,2009 5:31pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] every time i go to watch that Fire In The Sky movie something interrupts me after the first half hour. i guess i'll make another attempt |
____________________________________________________ [May 21,2009 6:16pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] That movie terrified me as a child. |
_______________________________________ [May 21,2009 11:41pm - BlackoutRick ""] Just got back. New one kicks ass. |
________________________________________ [May 23,2009 4:33pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] MikeOvDecrepitvde said:T2 ruled. The only flaw was the "I know now why you cry" gayness. "My CPU is a neuro-net processor a learning computer" ...srsly man |
________________________________________ [May 23,2009 4:35pm - My_Dying_Bride ""] btw T2 is my #1... seen it well over 100 times, however i have no expectations for the new one |
___________________________________ [May 23,2009 4:58pm - demondave ""] I just came from the new movie. I liked it. |
__________________________________________ [May 23,2009 7:34pm - SinisterMinister ""] I liked it until the end. Hacking the mainframe? Arnoldbot2009? Cyborg to human battlefield heart-transplantation surgery? No thanks. |
_______________________________ [May 24,2009 8:58am - Pires ""] ^^^^^^ *spoiler alert*!!! |
___________________________________ [May 26,2009 12:32am - Aegathis ""] Just got back from seeing it, it fucking r00lz. |
_________________________________ [May 26,2009 10:21am - xmikex ""] A couple things before I get started.... Fire the Sky was a serious win. It will never get the recognition it deserves because A. it was a topical subject and the result of the mid 90's ufo fascination and B. no one will pay attention to a story without a love interest in it. It's probably one of the most visceral films I've seen to date. T2 was flawless. Plot, FX, characters, action, all of it. Anyone who criticized it in 1991 is a cynical faggot who wanted Meatballs II to the be the be all end all of special effects in film. NOW... There are some definite holes in this film. And I'll be the first to admit that the "Blair and Marcus" (DayZ of oUr LiVzorz) love drama, albeit short lived, was awful. But I really think that after the shitstorm Hollywood saw from the T3 feedback this was their way of saying "Hey, look. You know as as well as we do that we have to fag this up a little to make it marketable, but we're at least gonna try this time." And try, IMO, they did. I thought Bale was fucking balls as John Connor (JC... salvation... undertone anyone?). I liked him a hell of a lot better than Marcus the hunky robot, a and hell of a lot better than that TGIF looking dork they cast in T3. The sound desgin is what really impressed me about this film. Take the giant people snatching terminators. If this wasn't a Terminator series then they just would have sounded like Wall-E shifted down a couple octaves. I loved the sound that they came up with for those things, that weird muted out of tune diesel moan. There are a handful of things big and small that I have issues with in this movie, but I'll accept this as part of the Terminator series. As far as I'm concerned THIS is Terminator 3, and the last one never happened. And anyone who didn't get pumped when Connor blasts You Could Be Mine to trap the moto-terminator is an asshole. Solid tribute to the greatest action film of all time. |
____________________________________________________ [May 27,2009 8:34am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] Saw it. Liked it. I too noticed that the sound effects in this movie were awesome. Those giant people snatcher terminators were awesome. |
_________________________________ [May 27,2009 8:40am - RustyPS ""] it wasn't bad IMO...I kept on dozing off because I was exhausted, but I thought it was solid I don't think you can reasonably expected it to be anywhere close to T2 |
___________________________________________ [May 27,2009 8:54am - FuckIsMySignature ""] goin with my bro this weekend to check it out |
_________________________________ [May 27,2009 9:00am - darkwor ""] Robert Patrick is in Terminator Salvation?? arilliusbm said:Here's a long shot here... but Robert Patrick did the voice of the main character of perhaps one of the best computer games ever made: "The Dig" came out around 1995 or so. Never heard of this - I will check it out. |
____________________________________ [May 27,2009 9:29am - arilliusbm ""] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dig highly recommended ! |
_________________________________ [May 27,2009 9:32am - darkwor ""] downloading it now thanks internet. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=icrcogxr |
____________________________________ [May 27,2009 9:34am - arilliusbm ""] hopefully that works... if not I can rip you the .iso of the CD I have. about t4: haven't seen it yet, been undecided about it for days now. no james cameron = no aril |
________________________________ [May 28,2009 11:32am - rbss ""] This shit was awesome. Obviously wasn't perfect, but it still ruled. I've been waiting for a post-apocalyptic Terminator movie ever since they showed snippets of Judgment Day in T2 and I got exactly what I wanted - A bad-ass, high-tech robot/human war movie. |
_____________________________________ [May 28,2009 11:38am - arilliusbm ""] Same here. When they showed a glimpse of the human/robot war in T2 I've been waiting to see a movie like that the whole time. |
____________________________________________ [May 28,2009 11:38am - mikeofdecrepitude ""] arilliusbm said: no james cameron = no aril Dude, not for nothing but... TITANIC?!? |
_____________________________________ [May 28,2009 11:48am - arilliusbm ""] James Cameron made the highest grossing film of all time? So what? |
_____________________________________________________ [May 28,2009 11:53am - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] rbss said:I've been waiting for a post-apocalyptic Terminator movie ever since they showed snippets of Judgment Day in T2 and I got exactly what I wanted - A bad-ass, high-tech robot/human war movie. ahhhh well put. This is a good part of why I liked this movie. This is also a big part of why the matrix movies are awesome. Watching the hunter/killers fly around fucking shit up is awesome. I always loved the little future glimpses of those in the old terminator movies. |
____________________________________________ [May 28,2009 11:54am - mikeofdecrepitude ""] Wait, so because it remains the highest grossing film means that it was quality, and that most people actually appreciate good films? Haha. I wouldn't put it past Cameron to pull a George Lucas. I personally wouldn't put any faith into to him, to come through with a better Terminator. |
____________________________________________ [May 28,2009 12:01pm - mikeofdecrepitude ""] Plus, he did Aliens, which wasn't nearly as grim as Ridley Scott's Alien. |
_____________________________________ [May 28,2009 12:53pm - arilliusbm ""] haha, I know what you're saying. Cameron is a hit-or-miss most of the time. But he's got potential to make a good story into a better story. But yea, Aliens was an 80s action flick rather than a horror/suspense/sci fi thriller like the 1st. |
___________________________________________ [May 28,2009 2:20pm - mikeofdecrepitude ""] I must say I'm pretty excited to see where Cameron takes his pursuit of making 3D films. |
____________________________________ [May 28,2009 2:26pm - arilliusbm ""] We need to see more 1st person films. I think that'd be interesting to say the least. You wouldn't know what the main character looks like until you see yourself in the mirror. A Total Recall but actually being Arnold. The 1st person scene in DOOM sucked so bad. fucking horrible. |
___________________________________________ [May 28,2009 2:35pm - mikeofdecrepitude ""] Speaking of Total Recall, what the hell happened to Paul Verhoeven? He used to direct great movies and then suddenly declined. |
____________________________________________________ [May 28,2009 2:56pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] arilliusbm said:The 1st person scene in DOOM sucked so bad. fucking horrible. I was just thinking that. Nobody will probably ever try it again because that movie was a joke. |
______________________________________________ [May 28,2009 5:22pm - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] xmikex said: that TGIF looking dork they cast in T3. He plays the titular character in Bully and goes around raping girls, spousal abusing Brad Renfro, forcing dudes to make dildo play movies and generally being a giant asshole who ends up getting murdered by everyone he's a dick to. The problem is that he's played by that fucking TGIF looking dork from T3 so the entire movie's ruined. |
____________________________________________________ [May 28,2009 6:25pm - menstrual_sweatpants_disco ""] I thought he did a good job in T3. He fit pretty well, for what John Connor's character was at the time. And he may be a TGIF looking dork to you guys, but to me he's Ben Hawkins from Carnivale, and he'll fuck your shit up. |
____________________________________ [May 29,2009 12:51am - RevoPhil ""] saw this on acid. great experience |
________________________________ [May 29,2009 12:30pm - rbss ""] RevoPhil said:saw this on acid. great experience oh hai |
___________________________________________ [May 31,2009 7:31pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] well finally saw the movie. not impressed. action was great, effects were cool (especially in a digital theater) but the story seemed so sloppy. everyone either overacted or underacted to the point of absurdity. the dialague was the worst though.. pretty much went as follows: "I'm John Connor" "Save Kyle Reese" "I'm John Connor" "I'm Kyle Reese.. Come with you me if you want to live.." Blah blah blah "BUT I'M JOHN CONNOR!!!... and I'll be back" oh and Christian Bale did the whole movie with his irritating Dark Knight grumble voice. I kept hoping that the Joker would pop into the scene to make it more exciting. THE END. |
_____________________________________ [Jun 15,2009 10:11am - arilliusbm ""] finally gave in and saw this. to my surprise, it was a watchable movie to say the least. best terminator in the series? hell no. better than terminator 3? yes. action was great.. non-stop action throughout the whole movie. Dialogue was pretty lame at parts, acting was pretty lame at parts too (mostly christian bale... does he play the same character in every movie) but I'll accept it was a follow-up movie. There were many similarities between T2, especially the "come with me if you want to live" and how the movie ends in a very similar setting as T2. Also liked how the movie was darker than 3. |
________________________________ [Jun 15,2009 12:20pm - sigh ""] menstrual_sweatpants_disco said: arilliusbm said:The 1st person scene in DOOM sucked so bad. fucking horrible. I was just thinking that. Nobody will probably ever try it again because that movie was a joke. A joke of a movie staring the Rock? SHOCKING! Sorry dude but every movie you star in is not an excuse to have fight scenes for you to demonstrate your awesome wrestling moves you fucking loser. DIE! Goes back to what aril was saying about needing a decent action star these days. Haven't seen T4 yet. T3 had some good parts but didn't have the same "dark" feel that T1 and T2 had. For example in T2 the scene where the T1000 stabs John's foster dad through the milk carton and through his head was pretty brutal. You don't see it happen but you get to see the after effects. Or where he stabs the guard through the eye and his body just twitches until he drops to the floor. T1 and T2 were far more graphic which added a lot to the "no hope/down and out" feel to the movies. In T3 the killing was very watered down. The story was decent. I liked the idea of Skynet being a bit more modern to fit with the times, but the acting was just terrible. |
___________________________________________ [Jun 15,2009 2:41pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] i liked T3 much more than T4 hands down |
__________________________________ [Jun 21,2009 11:45am - oscarct ""] T4 was not good. such a let down |
___________________________________________ [Jun 22,2009 8:42am - MikeofDecrepitude ""] T4 took a dump on T3. Not a perfect movie, but it exceeded my low expectations. Definitely a step in the right direction. |
_________________________________________ [Jun 22,2009 8:46am - BoarcorpseJimbo ""] huh, i didn't like 3.. 2 was obviously a milestone in my childhood.. I hope I like this one. |
_______________________________ [Jun 22,2009 8:57am - rbss ""] Terminator Salvation was fucking great. T3 was entertaining in a cheeseball way, but Salvation was badass. |
____________________________________ [Jun 22,2009 9:26am - arilliusbm ""] anyone else notice how they had GnR's Appetite for Destruction playing at a part YET AGAIN? Not sure if you remember but that's what John Connor was blaring with Bobby Budnick on the back of the dirtbike in T2.. Also, Alice in Chains ftw |
___________________________________________ [Jun 22,2009 9:39am - MikeofDecrepitude ""] Nah, wasn't it "You Could be Mine", from Use Your Illusion II? Nice throwback there. |
_________________________________ [Jun 22,2009 9:40am - oscarct ""] MikeofDecrepitude said:T4 took a dump on T3. Not a perfect movie, but it exceeded my low expectations. Definitely a step in the right direction. no right direction. movie was absolute shit. on a gigli level. the metallica load of movies. |
____________________________________ [Jun 22,2009 9:46am - arilliusbm ""] Was it? I can't remember what it was other than hearing GnR. Figured they'd use Appetite on their but you could be right. |
___________________________________________ [Jun 22,2009 9:49am - MikeofDecrepitude ""] I only know it because I'm an unabashed GnR fan, minus that new piece of shit they just put out. Can't agree that T4 sucked, especially compared to the movies that hack directors like Michael Bay put out. |
____________________________________ [Jun 22,2009 9:50am - arilliusbm ""] I was listening to Appetite last night. It's so easy baby, when everybody's tryin' to please me baby. |
___________________________________________ [Jun 22,2009 9:56am - MikeofDecrepitude ""] Were you dancing with Mr. Brownstone? |
___________________________________________ [Jun 22,2009 9:56am - MikeofDecrepitude ""] ...I hear he's been knockin' |