Kroda (Ukr) ambushed at gig, by ANTIFA[views:7771][posts:25]___________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 2:38pm - MikeofDecrepitude ""] Originally posted by Graveland (PL) "Witch-hunt and holy inquisition?! As everyone should already know, in the beginning of European mini-tour, KRODA band was attacked by a bunch of jackals before the gig in Warsaw, Poland. We were changing our clothes dressing in concert uniform and just took away our stuff from mini-bus in the street near club. At this time, rain of glass bottles fell upon us... Right then, attackers used pepper-sprays and tried to beat us by telescopic cudgels. They were in red and black masks and shouted «AFA!», so we’ve made a conclusion about what subculture they belong to. Before this event, we were not too interested in this movement, but after things that happened, we studied their websites deeper. We have found there a lot of mentions about our band defined as NSBM. It would be good to make a brief digression to the history of music (not for antifa, but for listeners of Pagan Metal, and Metal music in general). It seems antifa don’t know what is NSBM, if they use this stereotype towards our band. NSBM are bands like DER STURMER or THOR'S HAMMER, for example; i.e. formations where basic themes are political and social aspects, aesthetics of Third Reich etc. But KRODA (even purely stylistics-wise) is Pagan Metal. In difference from NSBM, in Pagan Metal (just look at the name, it’s obvious) there’s no political component. Lyrical side of Pagan Metal is Antiquity, Traditionalism, Ancestral Roots Pride (those able to read – just look at KRODA texts published on our official site). And still we want to say that our group is OUT of modern politics. During the last time, Metal scene is infiltrated by left-side punks with their poor, perverted understanding of metal and its aesthetics. Their knowledge about facts and concepts of metal genres are narrow, but despite their profanity, those people (practically aliens to metal subculture) are trying to dictate their ultimatum conditions to Metal bands; trying to sort the bands (according to their "punk" concepts) and separate them into "correct" and "incorrect". And the bands, defined by those conceptually/politically/musically incompetent marginals as “non-correct”, are exposed to physical and psychological attacks of "anti-fascists". In general, those antifa “people” don’t listen to Metal music at all, but they already wish to dictate what music we have to play, what we must sing, what gigs we can go to, and which concerts are not to be visited. They command to zines, distributors and labels – who must be boycotted, and who are to be promoted. They know nothing about the concept of our creativity, but their sick ideas make them desperately try to prevent our gigs, try to beat fans of Pagan Metal at random; aspire to harm musicians in every possible way, to trouble us, damage our stuff, cars, instruments, our Metal clubs and concert equipment. They act like a riot rampage gang, while their official propaganda is anti-violence. They struggle for something like equality, but in fact, someone is «more equal» for them. Everywhere, they declare their aspiration to preserve another cultures, but at the same time they promote destruction of own European culture in every possible way. Those people stepped too far and lost the feeling of reality. They are just lazy fuckers who want nothing to do, so they seek the enemies everywhere, suspicious to any runic inscription on T-shirts, disks etc. They are going to continue their insolent dictate and force us all to accept their idiotic "conditions" and "demands". The only thing they understand is brutal force. Until Pagan Metal fans, bands and gigs promoters/organizers are tolerate this leftist riot, it will just grow, though even here and now this is almost a red terror. Everyone who obediently agrees with cancels and impossibility of fave bands gigs, everyone who estimate the "conditions" dictated by aggressive bunch of shameless red hooligans, everyone who directly or indirectly submits to the "regime” those strangers try to impose to the whole Pagan Metal scene – they all just unwillingly support the further escalation of this brutal tyranny and oppression of our interests. Today, some punk scum dictate you what music you have to listen, what concerts to visit, what clothes is “allowed to wear” and what is “prohibited”, what bands we can act with and who are “wrong” - tomorrow they will ask you for report what you eat, what books do you read, what do you think about, what words did you say, with whom do you make love, where do you live and how much money you earn. We are the only ones to take back our right to listen the music we want, to go to the gigs we wish to visit. If you want to be yourself and act following your heart – so it’s time to say "stop" to antifa riot in Pagan Metal. It’s time to be self-organized and strike back in reply to any act of insolent leftists. Let it be tradition and a rule among your friends to come at gigs together, in well-organized SOBER groups. Watch the concert hall. By yourself, kick antifa spies away from halls and clubs, kick away every boor trying to confuse you when you listening to music. If those people don’t respect our rights, our fave bands and our Ancestral Faith – so it’s their own guilt, and we don’t wanna tolerate their intervention anymore. In the street you must always have all the self-defense stuff allowed in your country. If someone try to attack - you have a right to self-defense, to use all the possible means to protect yourself and your relatives. Having some times received a strong straight repulse from numerous Pagan Metal fans, red ass bastards will think thrice – is it good idea to make us trouble next time. Let them protect gay-parades and rastafarian marches. If that brainless goblins consider scientific terms "Aryan" and "Race" associated with "fascism", if traditional European Runes and Sunwheels are "nazism" – so let them not even try to discuss the themes of Black and Pagan Metal at all. Summing up: We call all the listeners, musicians, labels, zines connected with Pagan and Black Metal to answer every antifa boycott of our music and bands with counter boycott. Don’t let them manipulate you! Don’t let them to destroy Pagan Metal subculture and our European traditional culture. Strike them back on psychological and bureaucratic level, as well as by physical action. Gangs of that scum must be recognized as criminal and determined as «outlaw» as they already done it with you for a long time. Guilty will be punished. Glory to Our Gods! KRODA" You've got to love these anti-fascist/racist groups. They claim to promote peace and "equality", yet they viciously attack others, who's opinions or lifestyles differ from their skewed perceptions of reality. Are they not what they claim to hate? They are the ultimate fascists and their hypocrisy is staggering. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 2:46pm - arilliusbm ""] It is quite the hypocrisy. It's the same thing in the sense that people want to join just to be part of something and represent a "meaning." In my eyes, I think NSBM is way overdone these days. I like some NSBM bands, but it's a huge trend now.. I'm starting to think that politics don't belong in black metal anymore. It's always about the music with me, but NSBM is now officially a joke. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 2:52pm - MikeofDecrepitude ""] In my opinion, Black Metal, and music in general, should be about transcending aspects of reality, which includes politics. It's easy to use music as a vehicle to promote and spread personal ideals, and I wouldn't expect that to change anytime soon. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 2:54pm - arilliusbm ""] you ever see the ANTIFA battle videos on youtube? Giant fights and stuff. pretty entertaining. Cant stand those hypocrites. |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 2:57pm - goatcatalyst ""] I want to oppress these fags. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 3:01pm - arilliusbm ""] I'd rather listen to Skrewdriver than listen to 95% of NSBM bands. Well, I do love me some Nokturnal Mortum(old), Ad Hominem, Grom, Hate Forest and the like. It's a toss-up. |
| _________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 3:07pm - C.dEad ""] Hmmmm, does this sound familiar to anyone around here? Minus the attacks? |
| ______________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 3:09pm - goatcatalyst ""] I'd rather listen to the butt-hurt cries of hypersensitive, unwashed honky faggots with a side of extra-righteous crocodile tears than listen to Hate Forest, who I fucking love. |
| ___________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 3:12pm - MikeofDecrepitude ""] That was awesome. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 3:13pm - arilliusbm ""] Ryan, you just blew my mind. You need to write some free-verse and publish that shit. Your intellect coupled with clever jargon is a mind-vortex everytime I read it. and yes, c.dead. it sounds like a certain local band that always gets accused. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 3:38pm - Conservationist ""] NSBM sucks ass. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 4:36pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] I guess their awesome LARP gear couldn't protect them from a party of lvl 3 crusties. Pretty funny to read this whining coming from a band with NSBM connections, survival of the fittest says they just got their asses kicked. |
| __________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 4:51pm - brian_dc ""] NERD WARZ! |
| ____________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 7:01pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] Right, so if they were the one's going out and assaulting people, it wouldn't be ok, because they are associated with NSBM acts, and they'd be performing hate crimes, right? As I stated above, I don't care for political ideologies in my music, and I care as much about NSBM as I do some left-wing racist hip hop group calling for the death of whitey. I don't believe in censoring peoples opinions or beliefs, just because it doesn't fit the criteria of political correctness. I find nothing more detesting than that. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 7:02pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] I think everyone should beat up everyone else for no reason at all. |
| ____________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 7:03pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] Didn't Integrity get their asses kicked by SHARPS? Pretty easy to get the shit kicked out of you when strength in numbers is involved. |
| ____________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 7:04pm - arilliusbm ""] MikeOvDecrepitvde said: I don't believe in censoring peoples opinions or beliefs, just because it doesn't fit the criteria of political correctness. I find nothing more detesting than that. Welcome to America. We've got it more free than most countries on the planet, but yet, this statement is the truth. We are never 100% free to express any opinions. Discrimination is bound to happen when a disagreement occurs. |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 7:04pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] Strength in numbers means that a given ideology has attracted more followers and has won in the marketplace of ideas. |
| __________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 7:06pm - goatcatalystnli ""] i legit hate white people. how's that? |
| ____________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 7:09pm - MikeOvDecrepitvde ""] BobNOMAAMRooney said:Strength in numbers means that a given ideology has attracted more followers and has won in the marketplace of ideas. That's just stating the obvious. The majority of human beings follow a herd mentality, and a great example of strength in numbers would be followers of judeo-christianity. No one can ever say that the majority are inclined to follow something positive or beneficial towards the rest of society. |
| ___________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 7:39pm - Paul CNV ""] arilliusbm said:Ryan, you just blew my mind. You need to write some free-verse and publish that shit. Your intellect coupled with clever jargon is a mind-vortex everytime I read it. and yes, c.dead. it sounds like a certain local band that always gets accused. What do you expect? We're talking about the most cosmopolitan and uber fucking queer pc place in america: Boston Don't get me wrong... I like some folks from Boston BUT I am glad we have been banned there for the second time. I take it as a compliment. It's proof positive we ain't tricks that blow the commie thought police socialites in queentown or beantown. Fuck ye... 603 nigga Anyways, these antifa people need to get some Buck shot air conditioning. Free of charge. :middlefinger: |
| _________________________________________ [Jun 30,2009 8:09pm - BobNOMAAMRooney ""] MikeOvDecrepitvde said:No one can ever say that the majority are inclined to follow something positive or beneficial towards the rest of society. Defense of humanism in a black metal thread, it's more likely than you think. |
| _________________________________________ [Apr 15,2010 6:42am - Lord Warmaster ""] If the Antifa strike pagan black metal concerts, then we must strike their gay leftist concerts, target each one of those hypocrites. |
| ______________________________ [Jan 20,2011 7:12pm - Slag ""] No Kroda love? I just recently got into these guys. |
| ________________________________________ [Jan 20,2011 7:21pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] this thread has TRAVELED THROUGH TIME to warn you about the punx |
| __________________________________________ [Jan 20,2011 9:05pm - Headbanging Man ""] Gotta admit, obnoxious as ANTIFA hypocrites can be, KORDA could probably stand a little self-examination! If that brainless goblins consider scientific terms "Aryan" and "Race" associated with "fascism" |