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[QUOTE="Conservationist:954796"][QUOTE="darkwornli:954725"][QUOTE="Conservationist:954700"]But I oppose the core idea of the left, which is anti-natural-selection, or that we must support and defend the rights of thieves, defectives, criminals, etc. Fuck those people -- get them away from my family.[/QUOTE] So do I. So why does voting for Obama make me a leftist? I voted for him for the reasons stated above and nothing more. And of course, even thieves, defectives, and criminals have rights. Or at least according to Thomas Jefferson. Are you going to call him a leftist? George Washington opposed the formation of political parties. Today they are the bane of this country's existence. Why do you emphasize the rift in the political system by painting everything red and blue? I agree with many of your ideas. But my point is - people would say I lean toward the left, except the "core idea" of the left as you said is anti-natural selection, which I am NOT. I've said this before, stick to the issues, stop using the terms "liberal" and "conservative" if you want to be taken seriously.[/QUOTE] I think the division between core ideas is important because it influences the interpretation of everything else. This was what I was trying to communicate with Pam on another thread (?) -- that if we don't pick a guiding philosophy, all we can do is collect issues. Among other things, finding that guiding philosophy would enable us to force the right to purge some of its nonsense, like fear of abortion. Thomas Jefferson, technically speaking, was a leftist -- although he had many conservative ideas. But keep in mind that he did not favor voting for criminals, or even for non-white men under 30, and that he had an almost Biblical sense of judgment that included removal of the bad. He came right out of the Enlightenment but stuck to his guns on some important ideas. I'm not even really concerned with the past so much as I am designing a positive political future for my kids.[/QUOTE]
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