Arrrr PIRATE METAL[views:3296][posts:47]________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 8:33pm - Arrrr ""] [img] http://www.myspace.com/scuurvy :doublehorns: :doublehorns: :doublehorns: |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 8:42pm - i_am_not_me ""] Arrr, Running Wild called, they want their gimmick back. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 14,2009 11:21pm - Arrrr ""] arrrrrrr but ye dont know REAL PIRATE METAL :duffbeer: ARrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| _______________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 12:57am - sli sli sli ""] wow, this is the first time ive ever seen this, ever |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 1:02am - sli sli sli ""] P.S. im pretty sure REAL PIRATES would be all about beating up chicks, as opposed to playing benefit shows against domestic violence. P.P.S. for an australian your singer sure sounds alot like the guy in the spongebob squarepants themesong, just sayin' |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 1:21am - joeycobra ""] there already was a scurvy....and they ruled. and Swashbuckle are better. |
| _______________________________ [Oct 15,2009 1:31am - Pires ""] joeycobra said:there already was a scurvy....and they ruled. and Swashbuckle are better. so this isn't the same scurvy that brought us the hit song "walk the plank"?!? Fuck these imposters then! |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 1:34pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] NO THANKS, MATEY |
| ______________________________ [Oct 15,2009 1:55pm - BSV ""] pirate metal is fucking gay. the majority of the posers playing it can't even wake up on time to go fishing, let alone have the stomach for a day on the salt water. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 1:56pm - arilliusbm ""] if you're going to the nov 3rd show with Vreid, Belphegor and the like, be prepared to see mass amounts of kids rocking out to Alestorm - that newer Scottish Folk/Pirate metal band. When Swashbuckle played last year, THAT WAS A JOKE |
| ______________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:10pm - BSV ""] all set with that show. folk metal is for kids who are frightened by black metal. some is decent but overall when i hear it, i'd rather just listen to nokturnal mortem. it's like pizza party thrash is for kids who are intimidated by sodom and nifelheim while folk metal is for kids who are intimidated by burzum and profanatica. KNOW YOUR ROOTS IS DER LAW |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:12pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Blackguard sucked too. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:15pm - arilliusbm ""] I'm not big on the direction folk metal is going. This pirate metal shit is a joke too. The best folk bands were always the ones that used it sparingly, or at least pull it off correctly. Too many jig-type drinking bands these days. Growing trend. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:19pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] I just figure Sturgeon's Law applies like with anything else: 90% of any given thing is crap. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:20pm - arilliusbm ""] DestroyYouAlot said:I just figure Sturgeon's Law applies like with anything else: 90% of any given thing is crap. Hah, true. How is your actual folk thing going anyway? |
| ______________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:20pm - BSV ""] Primordial has it down, granted they started over 20 years ago. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:24pm - arilliusbm ""] Again, I know most people disagree with me, but this is the reason why I can't stand any Ensiferum after the self-titled. It's too flashy and corny. Not knocking Jari's musicianship on Iron and Wintersun, but his style is so cheesy. Even Ensiferum's S/T has its cheesy moments, but some of the folkier parts are great. For folk-type stuff, I find myself listening to Neun Welten all the time. Although not exactly metal, they're metal musicians and you can hear the influence behind their folk music. Awesome German band. |
| _____________________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:29pm - dontlivefastjustdie ""] could never get into folk metal. just sounds dumb to me |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:31pm - arilliusbm ""] I'm waiting for American Folk Metal - blastbeats and black metal screams, then banjo and fiddle duels. Before someone says Devin in the Kitchen, yea - no shit. But no banjo = fail. |
| ________________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:47pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] arilliusbm said:I'm waiting for American Folk Metal - blastbeats and black metal screams, then banjo and fiddle duels. Before someone says Devin in the Kitchen, yea - no shit. But no banjo = fail. Tsk tsk tsk, Varg wouldn't approve. LOL |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 2:50pm - arilliusbm ""] Banjo is a sick instrument. Takes some skill to play it too. |
| ___________________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 3:01pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] buttpirate metal |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 4:06pm - spaldino ""] i fucking miss The Tori. sweet pirate metal band that has been forgotten :( |
| _________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 4:09pm - MikeOv ""] BSV said:folk metal is for kids who are frightened by black metal. Menhir, Heol Telwen... they beg to differ. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 4:10pm - arilliusbm ""] Menhir = greatest band no one knows about |
| _________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 4:12pm - MikeOv ""] I don't get why Heol Telwen doesn't get more play. They slaughter. |
| ____________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 4:13pm - arilliusbm ""] It's not flashy enough. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 5:37pm - cav nli ""] spaldino said:i fucking miss The Tori. sweet pirate metal band that has been forgotten :( The Tori! i remember them. saw em once at the met. awesome show! pretty sure they were an opener too. |
| ___________________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 5:39pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] needs more zazzzzz |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 5:43pm - goatcatalyst ""] BSV said:all set with that show. folk metal is for kids who are frightened by black metal. some is decent but overall when i hear it, i'd rather just listen to nokturnal mortem. it's like pizza party thrash is for kids who are intimidated by sodom and nifelheim while folk metal is for kids who are intimidated by burzum and profanatica. KNOW YOUR ROOTS IS DER LAW Kiss me, you fool. In all seriousness, metal is desperately in need of a pogrom. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 7:44pm - PANT3RA4EVA ""] Hells ya nillaz mix it up IT ALL GOOD Got gangsta metal Got pirate metal Got criminal metal Whats next I CANT WAIT |
| _________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 8:30pm - Snowden ""] BSV said:it's like pizza party thrash is for kids who are intimidated by sodom and nifelheim while folk metal is for kids who are intimidated by burzum and profanatica. But pizza thrash sounds kind of like Sodom and Nifelheim, while folk metal doesn't sound anything like Burzum or Profanatica? I feel like this zinger should've read "Southern Lord" instead of "folk metal." Anyhow, I think the IDEA of "pirate metal" is cool because there are a ton of old-ass nautical songs bands could draw on the way some Scandinavian bands drew on their old folk songs. Not real big on the cartoonish way it always seems to turn out though. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 8:44pm - Snowden ""] arilliusbm said:I'm waiting for American Folk Metal - blastbeats and black metal screams, then banjo and fiddle duels. Before someone says Devin in the Kitchen, yea - no shit. But no banjo = fail. If you're thinking of hectic bluegrass banjo, that's not really a folk style of playing - it was more or less invented (based on earlier styles) in the 40s. Real folk banjo (clawhammer, 2- and 3- finger picking) is a lot less bombastic. I actually think about what "North American folk metal" would sound like a lot (I spend more time playing banjo/mandolin than heavy metal now that I live in Western Mass.) and it's tough because so many of the actual melodies are just so chipper and major key sounding compared to Irish and especially Norwegian folk music. And the stuff that sounds dark tends to be more drone-y and modal - a lot of North American folk music didn't even have chords until it started to become commercialized in the 20s-30s. I mean, I'm sure someone will figure it out and it'll sound interesting, but it seems like a much trickier fit than Euro folk music. PS like on that Forteresse record, the fiddle samples sound kind of cool but still totally disconnected from the actual songs. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 8:46pm - goatcatalyst ""] Pirate metal = fag magnet |
| ___________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 9:16pm - spaldino ""] cav%20nli said: spaldino said:i fucking miss The Tori. sweet pirate metal band that has been forgotten :( The Tori! i remember them. saw em once at the met. awesome show! pretty sure they were an opener too. they were... for god forbid/lamb of god. they raped. instrumental band with a pirate theme. fucking awesome show. |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 9:27pm - JimboarNLI ""] Snowden said: lot of North American folk music didn't even have chords until it started to become commercialized in the 20s-30s. ... Yea, then triplets came in the 30s and shortly after, accents in the 40s |
| ______________________________ [Oct 15,2009 9:51pm - Lamp ""] Jonee Earthquake Band This thread needs a mention of Jonee Earthquake Band. |
| ________________________________ [Oct 15,2009 10:55pm - aril ""] Snowden said: arilliusbm said: I mean, I'm sure someone will figure it out and it'll sound interesting, but it seems like a much trickier fit than Euro folk music. definitely. It would be something unique to consider. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 16,2009 1:45am - BSV ""] Snowden said: But pizza thrash sounds kind of like Sodom and Nifelheim, while folk metal doesn't sound anything like Burzum or Profanatica? I feel like this zinger should've read "Southern Lord" instead of "folk metal." too me I hear more DRI, and cheap rehashed riffs spurred by grim reaper and whiplash-these riffs aren't played with conviction either just nostalgic hype heard from ripped mp3 files. you can't tell me that the average folk metal listener appreciates the early black metal style. raw production and praise of satan is something that intimidates many of the younger fans-folk metal is the safe alternative. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 16,2009 3:26am - goatcatalyst ""] Many of the younger fans need to feel the flames of my ovens. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 16,2009 11:25am - Snowden ""] BSV said:you can't tell me that the average folk metal listener appreciates the early black metal style. raw production and praise of satan is something that intimidates many of the younger fans-folk metal is the safe alternative. I'm just saying that the two things sound totally different, and I don't think it makes sense to claim that one is a watered-down version of the other. Although they talked about Norse culture etc. a lot, early black metal bands took very little actual musical influence directly from folk music, and definitely way less than folk-metal bands do. It's like comparing apples and oranges. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 16,2009 11:29am - Snowden ""] JimboarNLI said: Snowden said: lot of North American folk music didn't even have chords until it started to become commercialized in the 20s-30s. ... Yea, then triplets came in the 30s and shortly after, accents in the 40s Yeah, listening to some stuff from the 20s (or later revivalists) it's not always obvious what key or time they're playing in, let alone how you'd adapt it to a 5-piece metal band. |
| ______________________________________ [Oct 16,2009 12:14pm - ouchdrummer ""] sorry to tell ya.... but, I was being VERY... VERY sarcastic... |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 16,2009 12:18pm - arilliusbm ""] I'm still baffled that no one mentioned how funny that picture is in the first post. Dude on the left looks like a complete tool, and the dude sitting down looks way out of place. I know some bands aren't meant to be taken seriously, but come on.. |
| __________________________________ [Oct 16,2009 12:39pm - Snowden ""] ouchdrummer said:sorry to tell ya.... but, I was being VERY... VERY sarcastic... I thought you were talking about jazz or something. What's the joke? |
| _____________________________________ [Oct 16,2009 1:20pm - ouchdrummer ""] Snowden said: ouchdrummer said:sorry to tell ya.... but, I was being VERY... VERY sarcastic... I thought you were talking about jazz or something. What's the joke? The joke was this: You were stating that they didn't use chords until a certain time. I thought this was a silly thing to say, as chords are literally more than one note played at the same time, and people have been doing that since it was possible. SO... my joke was that people didn't start using triplets and accents till years after that.... which was an equally silly comment, as people have been playing music with triplets and accents since the beginnings of music. |
| ______________________________ [Oct 16,2009 1:22pm - Yeti ""] pirate metal, bah. i can only think of one song that ever made me think about pirates, and that's "Fiskarens Fiende" by Finntroll. |
| _________________________________ [Oct 16,2009 2:34pm - Snowden ""] ouchdrummer said:The joke was this: You were stating that they didn't use chords until a certain time. I thought this was a silly thing to say, as chords are literally more than one note played at the same time, and people have been doing that since it was possible. But...I wasn't talking about "people," I said that North American folk music didn't generally use chords until it started to be influenced by commercial music. I mean, obviously there were different traditions so maybe that was too broad a generalization, is that what you meant? Anyhow, there were many regions of North America where folk music used to be most often performed by a single melody instrument or voice, or maybe two melody instruments playing in unison. There are still commonly played tunes that don't fit into chords (without making them sound like jazz), which used to drive me nuts when I played bass at old-time jam sessions. I can't tell if you're trying to discuss this or just busting my balls though. |