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[QUOTE="ouchdrummer:1192854"]sorry, WICKED fucking busy day at work so i'm just looking at this thread now. Here's my 2cents. -I think that shoes or no shoes is a personal preference. There are obvious differences, you just need to decide what your priorities are... and keep in mind that nothing that you can do one way is impossible the other, they just feel different. Playing with shoes will give you a harder hit because your foot will be heavier, but at the same point it's also more for you to lift for every upstroke, and therefor will make most drummers lean more towards burying the beaters between strokes.. which is obviously bad.. playing without shoes will let you really feel how the pedal is responding to you and the drumhead, and if you pay attention to it, it will help you not waste energy needlessly. Also i find that i have better control when i can feel the pedals inertia pressing on my foot. I would never go back to shoes again, as for the "power" people use them for; I feel that if your technique is good: -a ready position with your foot parallel to the ground, a couple inches off of the floor, with the balls of your feet touching the "meat" of the floorboards. -a "wave" like movement with just a little "leg" movement, a little "foot" movement, and a little "ankle" movement. -a swift upstroke back to your ready position after EVERY hit. then you won't have ANY problem getting the "power" that people claim you need to wear shoes for, and you get to save your body the energy of moving that weight around with every hit. As far as songs to practice to: What you should consider before deciding what songs to practice double bass to is whether you want to focus on chops with your feet, or overall control/speed/endurance. From what you said in your original post, i would assume the second to be true (control, speed, endurance) in which case, i think you should either just use a metronome on a really slow click and do VERY simple patters focusing on technique and consistancy, or find some electronic music that is a good slow steady tempo (music that you enjoy that is... i hope you like SOME electronic) and use that for your metronome. But if you do this, you should make sure you don's play with the same song too much, as you'll get too used to that tempo. Here is an example of what you should be doing to that metronome/slow electronic music: r r r r l l l l r r r r l l l l rlrlrlrl r r r r r r r r l l l l l l l l r r r r r r r r l l l l l l l l rlrlrlrlrlrlrlrl (obviously do this exercise at a speed where the faster portion (rlrl etc..) is not just doable for you.. but EASY. And VERY consistent. Otherwise your reinforcing bad habits. I can't stress this enough, too many people will put in the effort, but not be willing to play it slow enough that they play it properly because they feel like they're "above" it. Well.. they're not. If it doesn't sound good, then you should slow it down. Do that for a half hour, 3-4 times a week... (AT LEAST.. if you can do 4 hours, 5 times a week, all the better.) and when you turn up the metronome/pick a faster song, you'll be BLOWN AWAY at how much your faster playing has improved. *the reason why i think this is better than learning songs is the same reason that if you wanna learn to sweep pick, you wouldn't just play songs that have some sweeps in them.. you'd pick a scale, and play them slowly, until you build up more speed.. because if you're just playing songs with double bass parts, then your not really FOCUSING on your double bass technique, and you'll never make the improvements that you want to see. You need to come down for a lesson if you want a lot more than that. *smooch* oh and, yeah i can do some of that stuff in that video too, thanks.[/QUOTE]
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