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[QUOTE="barren%20ark:1339886"][QUOTE="Boozegood:1339333"]This is also apparent in our traditional disdain for socialism as well; we do not place a large value on comfort/ease of life if it involves hand holding. [/QUOTE] This just jumped out at me. This assumes that socialism is actually == hand holding, because it is a sliding scale, and we live in a hybrid social democracy. Progressives over US history would like a word with you over that apparent traditional disdain. The true American luxury is that we have both. Be careful how you use the word, and imagine if the USA had absolutely no socialist economic policies (which there are no examples of in a "pure" democracy or the warped American version of it - it would have to be something more authoritarian) Anyway I completely agree that guns and what they symbolize are a cultural pillar and will not go away. State's rights should have the right of way. Now, the second amendment is all well and good, but while the public argues about that, Bush, Obama, and congress have been chipping away at the 5th amendment quietly.[/QUOTE]
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