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do NOT get the swine flu vaccination

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[Sep 17,2009 8:36pm - swamplorddvm ""]
Falling for it.
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[Sep 17,2009 9:03pm - immortal13 ""]
Another thing I hate about Mass and love about NH.

Zombie apocalypse ftw.
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[Sep 17,2009 10:06pm - Martins ""]
Hey I just wanted to double check with you guys: should I get the swine flu vaccination?
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[Sep 17,2009 10:33pm - HI BILLY MAYS HERE  ""]

Martins said:Hey I just wanted to double check with you guys: should I get the swine flu vaccination?



UNLESS ALEX JONES SAYS NO, IT'S STILL COOL BRO.
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[Sep 17,2009 10:50pm - Alex jones  ""]
Fuck you Billy mays you're dead. Leave me out of this.
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[Sep 18,2009 7:36am - HI BILLY MAYS HERE  ""]

Alex%20jones said:Fuck you Billy mays you're dead. Leave me out of this.



FIGHT ME IN THE SONIC PARKING LOT, OR YOURE AN ASSHOLE.
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[Sep 18,2009 8:09am - Alex jones  ""]
My pleasure. Prick.
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[Sep 18,2009 8:42am - aril  ""]
http://www.boston.com/news/health/articles..._flu_shot_delivery_delayed_in_mass/

they are delaying influenza shipments a little bit and getting ready for the swine flu shots
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[Sep 18,2009 10:36am - Yeti ""]
unfuckingreal!! i hope every fucking person that is stupid enough to get these vaccines dies.

"In part, it reflects an unexpected scientific challenge. The seasonal vaccine is brewed to thwart three different strains, and one of them - from the “B’’ family - proved especially difficult to work with."

gee, i wonder why that is, could it be we are accelerating mutations? NO, WE'RE GOOD WARM-BLOODED AMURIKANS!!
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[Sep 18,2009 10:39am - MikeOv  ""]

Hoser said:Welcome to the Nazi party Mass. You voted for him and all of your reps, now feel the consequences. I love you Aril, and respect you, but Mass. is ALWAYS out of line with personal freedoms.


Hitler would tell you not think about vaccinations. Unless of course you happened to be jewish.
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[Sep 18,2009 10:48am - aril  ""]

quintessence said:live free or die for me


the NH motto sounds like a modern description of a domestic terrorist.
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[Sep 18,2009 10:55am - MikeOv  ""]
You sound like a politician, with that statement.
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[Sep 18,2009 10:56am - aril  ""]
...maybe I am.
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[Sep 18,2009 11:17am - xmikex ""]

dreadkill said:most people i know who've gotten flu shots get sick for a week after. i'd rather take my chances without the shot.


I hear that a lot. I've never once gotten the flu on a year that I've had a flu shot. On the other hand I've had people berate me for getting flu shots, and then watched them whine when they end up getting the flu.

I'm on the fence here.
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[Sep 18,2009 11:19am - FuckIsMySignature ""]
Whine Flu
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[Sep 18,2009 11:26am - aril  ""]
should be "crime flu" because there's some rumors that it was engineered in a lab now
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[Sep 18,2009 12:00pm - arktouros ""]
THIS BILL IS STILL SITTING IN THE MA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Stop sitting on your ass complaining about the NWO and CONTACT YOUR REP.

Use the unconstitutional provisions listed here:

http://www.masslpa.org/sites/default/files/S-2028_handbill-flyer_0.doc

include this in your message to your rep.

Visit http://www.masslpa.org/node/425 for more info.

This is looking like it won't pass through the House but everybody needs to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.



Hello Rep. Frost,

I am contacting you under strong and fervent opposition to the absurd unconstitutionality of the S-2028 “Act relative to pandemic and disaster preparation and response in the Commonwealth” bill. This should have never passed in the Senate and will face unprecedented public opposition should this bill pass through the House.

The unconstitutional provisions of the bill are listed below. This loyal constituent thanks you for your service in opposition to this bill!

John A. Gaucher
Student Support Services, Information Technologies
Worcester State College
508-929-8913
http://it.worcester.edu

Attn: All State Representatives and House Ways and Means Committee members
Bill S-2028 Ought To NOT PASS
“AN ACT RELATIVE TO PANDEMIC AND DISASTER PREPARATION AND RESPONSE IN THE COMMONWEALTH”
Some of the dozens of Unconstitutional provisions in the bill:
• Warrantless forced entry into and investigation of homes and businesses (lines 78-79, 351-398)
• Prohibits lawful assembly (line 84)
• Allows dispensing controlled substances i.e. drugging people against their will (lines 103-104)
• Warrantless arrests / isolation / quarantine (lines 109, 120-123, 351-398, 480-482))
• Up to 6 months imprisonment, up to $1000 per day fine (lines 124-127, 170-177, 483-485)
• Government control over transportation, materials, facilities, communications, carriers, public utilities, fuels, food, clothing, shelter (lines 131-136)
• Destruction of any property (lines 147-154) No provisions for just compensation
• Order that inoculation of any antitoxin, serum, vaccine, or other analogous product is essential (lines 168-170) May exercise authority to vaccinate / treat (401-407)
• Authorization to investigate, monitor, prevent, control, destroy anything believed to be a “condition dangerous to public health” (phrase undefined, so could include firearms). Non-compliance results in warrantless arrest, imprisonment, fine, even if health authority determination was erroneous (lines 246-252, 351-398, 443, 456-461)
• Public safety / health care / volunteer personnel waived from any civil liability for any civil or medical negligence / rights violations / death / injury (lines 28-35, 238, 346-348, 507-521)
• Detaining anyone for questioning, demanding people’s residence / employment addresses, DOB, personal / employment phone numbers, existing physical condition (lines 432-439)
• Forced isolation / quarantine to other private or public premises / area i.e. undisclosed location / camp, for refusing vaccine / treatment or for being uncooperative upon detaining / questioning (lines 399-414, 428, 440-479)
• Forced decontamination / diagnosis / physical exams / tests / specimen collection i.e. blood / DNA (lines 415-431)
“… the modern doctrine of “emergency powers” runs afoul of America’s Constitution … Its grants of power … and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency and they are not altered by emergency.” ---Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., PhD, JD “Preserving the public’s health in the 21st century requires preserving respect for personal liberty.” ---Wendy K. Mariner, JD, LLM, MPH, George J. Annas, JD, MPH, and Leonard H. Glantz, JD Dept. of Health Law, Bioethics, and Human Rights, Schools of Medicine, Law, and Public Health, Boston University
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[Sep 18,2009 12:00pm - MikeOv  ""]
Alex and David Icke were reporting that it was engineered in a lab during the first wave of the swine flu scare.
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[Sep 18,2009 12:06pm - aril  ""]
I've emailed the MA Gov't on a bunch of stuff; but they're absurdly disorganized and/or could really care less. Time to take it by force.
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[Sep 18,2009 12:08pm - arktouros ""]
also contact Sen. Richard T Moore and berate him for supporting this bill through the senate.

richard.moore@state.ma.us
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[Sep 18,2009 12:09pm - arktouros ""]
jim, the state reps are the true connection to the people and i usually get replies from them with their support. they are the ones that can stop this bill and it looks like they might.

CONTACT YOUR REPS PEOPLE.
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[Sep 18,2009 12:09pm - aril  ""]

arktouros said:DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.



Making people aware of this absurdity both on message boards and in real life is indeed doing something as well.
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[Sep 18,2009 12:10pm - aril  ""]
I will email again this afternoon though. Listen to John folks
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[Sep 18,2009 12:12pm - aril  ""]
And in all honesty, I also think the state reps are getting pressured by the feds... so we'll see who they truly represent.
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[Sep 18,2009 1:25pm - pam @ work  ""]

FuckIsMySignature said:Boston launches flu shot tracking

"Using technology originally developed for mass disasters, Boston disease trackers are embarking on a novel experiment - one of the first in the country - aimed at eventually creating a citywide registry of everyone who has had a flu vaccination.

...Each of them will get a bracelet printed with a unique identifier code. Information about the vaccine's recipients, and the shot, will be entered into handheld devices similar to those used by delivery truck drivers"


http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2008/11/21/boston_launches_flu_shot_tracking/



Notice how that article states NOTHING about jailtime for vaccine refusal...yeah.
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[Sep 18,2009 1:25pm - Yeti ""]
done
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[Sep 18,2009 1:44pm - Alx_Casket ""]
It's great how anything new for the amurrrican population sparks a controversy like this, spouting conspiracy theories. There won't be a bill for this, it will be voluntary and highly encouraged. I'm getting it as soon as it comes out, just like the seasonal flu vaccine I already got on the first day it came out because of where I work.

Then again it doesn't matter anyway... you're already fucked!!1
http://doihaveswineflu.org/
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[Sep 18,2009 1:57pm - arktouros ""]
This bill is REAL. Bill S-2028. It went through the MA senate and it's pending a vote in the House. I don't peddle around conspiracy theories.

Look at my post above and contact your rep, or allow an unconstitutional bill to pass, and weaken your immune system and allow a new flu strain to mutate. Whatever.
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[Sep 18,2009 2:06pm - aril  ""]
From this moment on, I hereby fully trust the FDA's quick decision to release a vaccination full of trace amounts of harmful ingredients such as mercury, the numerous proposals by governments to fully enforce this vaccination to the mass public, and the vast amounts of information available by the mainstream media telling me it's okay and nothing is wrong.
I also hereby believe that Swine flu is indeed a scary thing, and it is a naturally occuring sickness that will spread like wild fire unless I take this vaccine. I also hereby surrender my freedoms and liberties that guide our life and will let the governments and large corporations tell me what to do with my body.
From this moment on, I surrender my body and mind to the machine of
an organized global society, and will fully support anyone and everyone who choses to take this vaccination for the betterment of the human civilization. I also hereby agree to support the large pharmeceutical corporations whose commercials I see every night telling me there's something with my body and the only solution is to take their medication; but all I have to worry about is having the shits in the morning.

Yours truly,
Arillio Vasquez
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[Sep 18,2009 2:16pm - aril  ""]

arktouros said:I don't peddle around conspiracy theories.



Always question everything you're fed. A true patriot strives for answers which allows stenghtening of character and others around you.
A conspiracy theory should never be looked down upon - just look at the ones that came out to be true.
Don't believe anything you're told, strive for the answers but never be closed minded to possibilities.
Humans are greedy and corrupt, especially those in power. Conspiracy Theories should and will always exist, but never shoot them down. As you said in the past, you want to be an archeologist of some sort, perhaps finding Atlantis. Peddle in it you may, but it's still a theory.
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[Sep 18,2009 2:29pm - Arist nli  ""]
I've been against flu shots forever and wouldn't think twice about getting the swine one. They can't even leave the public water supply alone with all the flouride they put in it to numb us, wouldn't trust these assholes with anything
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[Sep 18,2009 3:06pm - arktouros ""]
As far as international cabals, NWO, large-scale alien conspiracies, Alex Jones BS, I don't buy any of that stuff. Conspiracies that do exist, Pentagon Papers, 9/11, etc. lead me to believe that most others are NOT true because many aspects of these "conspiracies" were so poorly overlooked that the fallacy of individuals is to blame. I believe it's entirely possible that certain groups of the government were involved in 9/11 indirectly, because the amount of discrepancies in all aspects of events surrounding it. But in general, the larger the scale of the conspiracy, the lesser amount of credibility it has. Bilderberg Group, for example. Conspiracy theories emerged from that specifically because it's restricted to outsiders, and only from there people have made outlandish allegations. It's the same inclusive false logic that allows a God to exist simply because it's not proven (arguably) that he doesn't exist - the root of all conspiracy theories.

All that said, I fucking love X-Files.
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[Sep 18,2009 3:12pm - aril  ""]
There are a lot of Conspiracy theories that are extremely outlandish, and are a direct result of pure paranoia. I will never disclude anything and will always keep an open mind about everything.
However the Bilderberg meetings are extremely sketchy, hence the massive conspiracies surrounding it. If corporate and political and rich figures are meeting behind closed doors with CIA, Secret Service and others gaurding them, something is going on.

You don't meet behind closed doors with the most influential people on the planet. They discuss and plan things. This is especially true given the amount of Fed Reserve supporters and financial oligarchs that attend each year.
It's the people that make the money that run the world, and they all meet behind closed doors. That's just wrong.
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[Sep 18,2009 3:16pm - Yeti ""]

Alx_Casket said:It's great how anything new for the amurrrican population sparks a controversy like this, spouting conspiracy theories. There won't be a bill for this, it will be voluntary and highly encouraged. I'm getting it as soon as it comes out, just like the seasonal flu vaccine I already got on the first day it came out because of where I work.


i really hope this is sarcasm, because if it isn't, then thank you so much for further mutating the flu viruses (viri?) into super powerful strains because you are a vagina and can't stand to be sick once in a while.
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[Sep 18,2009 3:19pm - Where is my stimulus check?  ""]
Everyone tell us if you got the shot or not, and we'll see which usernames are still active next year.

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[Sep 18,2009 3:28pm - Eli_hhcb ""]
I really don't have a grand to spare to not have to get this vaccine, I really would be fucked.
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[Sep 18,2009 3:31pm - Yeti ""]
bingo. their scare tactics worked.
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[Sep 18,2009 3:32pm - brodown ""]

Hoser said:
aril said:That is all.

if you have kids, don't let them get it.

if you live in MA, be prepared for a forced-epidemic and a $1000 fine if you refuse the shot.

this is against your will, and they have no right to do this. they are also going to track all people that had the vaccine with bracelets. I can't believe MA is being so idiotic with this swine flu "situation."



Why be surprised?...Mass is a Socialist state, as is Obama.



OBAMA=SOCIALIST STATE
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[Sep 18,2009 3:32pm - aril  ""]
SIMPLE SOLUTION: say you're a scientologist and it goes against your beliefs.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
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[Sep 18,2009 3:35pm - arktouros ""]

Eli_hhcb said:I really don't have a grand to spare to not have to get this vaccine, I really would be fucked.


You going to let them break down your door and feed it to you then?

Should this bill actually pass, if an epidemic warning is issued, I'm not getting vaccinated, I'm not paying $1,000, and I'm not going to jail. The amount of backlash against this will be interesting.
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[Sep 18,2009 3:36pm - aril  ""]
It's going to be like District 9 but instead of being forced to sign papers you're forced to inject stuff in your body. It's a good thing I've been building a spaceship underneath my house though, those nillas don't know what's comin'.
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[Sep 18,2009 3:46pm - Eli_hhcb ""]
If people breakdown(xmoshx) my door and inject me with stuff, I'm pretty much fucked I think...

Switzerland and Sweden are looking better and better.
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[Sep 18,2009 3:52pm - arktouros ""]
oh man, don't tell Hoser you're moving to a socialist nazi communist country.
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[Sep 18,2009 3:58pm - aril  ""]
I've been to Switzerland and was blown away by it; very nice. The Alps are peaceful and extremely inspirational for writing music.
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[Sep 18,2009 4:18pm - Eli_hhcb ""]
you mean metal as fuck right?
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[Sep 18,2009 7:29pm - Hoser ""]

arktouros said:THIS BILL IS STILL SITTING IN THE MA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Stop sitting on your ass complaining about the NWO and CONTACT YOUR REP.

Use the unconstitutional provisions listed here:

http://www.masslpa.org/sites/default/files/S-2028_handbill-flyer_0.doc

include this in your message to your rep.

Visit http://www.masslpa.org/node/425 for more info.

This is looking like it won't pass through the House but everybody needs to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.



Hello Rep. Frost,

I am contacting you under strong and fervent opposition to the absurd unconstitutionality of the S-2028 “Act relative to pandemic and disaster preparation and response in the Commonwealth” bill. This should have never passed in the Senate and will face unprecedented public opposition should this bill pass through the House.

The unconstitutional provisions of the bill are listed below. This loyal constituent thanks you for your service in opposition to this bill!

John A. Gaucher
Student Support Services, Information Technologies
Worcester State College
508-929-8913
http://it.worcester.edu

Attn: All State Representatives and House Ways and Means Committee members
Bill S-2028 Ought To NOT PASS
“AN ACT RELATIVE TO PANDEMIC AND DISASTER PREPARATION AND RESPONSE IN THE COMMONWEALTH”
Some of the dozens of Unconstitutional provisions in the bill:
• Warrantless forced entry into and investigation of homes and businesses (lines 78-79, 351-398)
• Prohibits lawful assembly (line 84)
• Allows dispensing controlled substances i.e. drugging people against their will (lines 103-104)
• Warrantless arrests / isolation / quarantine (lines 109, 120-123, 351-398, 480-482))
• Up to 6 months imprisonment, up to $1000 per day fine (lines 124-127, 170-177, 483-485)
• Government control over transportation, materials, facilities, communications, carriers, public utilities, fuels, food, clothing, shelter (lines 131-136)
• Destruction of any property (lines 147-154) No provisions for just compensation
• Order that inoculation of any antitoxin, serum, vaccine, or other analogous product is essential (lines 168-170) May exercise authority to vaccinate / treat (401-407)
• Authorization to investigate, monitor, prevent, control, destroy anything believed to be a “condition dangerous to public health” (phrase undefined, so could include firearms). Non-compliance results in warrantless arrest, imprisonment, fine, even if health authority determination was erroneous (lines 246-252, 351-398, 443, 456-461)
• Public safety / health care / volunteer personnel waived from any civil liability for any civil or medical negligence / rights violations / death / injury (lines 28-35, 238, 346-348, 507-521)
• Detaining anyone for questioning, demanding people’s residence / employment addresses, DOB, personal / employment phone numbers, existing physical condition (lines 432-439)
• Forced isolation / quarantine to other private or public premises / area i.e. undisclosed location / camp, for refusing vaccine / treatment or for being uncooperative upon detaining / questioning (lines 399-414, 428, 440-479)
• Forced decontamination / diagnosis / physical exams / tests / specimen collection i.e. blood / DNA (lines 415-431)
“… the modern doctrine of “emergency powers” runs afoul of America’s Constitution … Its grants of power … and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency and they are not altered by emergency.” ---Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., PhD, JD “Preserving the public’s health in the 21st century requires preserving respect for personal liberty.” ---Wendy K. Mariner, JD, LLM, MPH, George J. Annas, JD, MPH, and Leonard H. Glantz, JD Dept. of Health Law, Bioethics, and Human Rights, Schools of Medicine, Law, and Public Health, Boston University



Good Job whoever you are. Gets to the point. Or if you prefer, you can just bitch about everything like most of the liberal faggots on this site, and never try to actually make a difference in your world.

Seriously, I laud you.
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[Sep 18,2009 9:44pm - Where is my stimulus check?  ""]
Allahu ackbar!
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[Sep 19,2009 10:29pm - ArilliusBM ""]
LOS ANGELES, CA -- Drug-industry investigators have uncovered documents exposing an international drug ring, operating from New York City, is behind the H1N1 swine flu fright and vaccination preparations.

Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz and Sherri Kane, an investigative journalist, have released evidence in legal affidavits that leaders of a private global biotechnology "trust" are behind the pandemic flu, including its origin and alleged prevention via vaccinations. Their documents, being sent by attorneys to the FBI this week, evidence industrialists are operating a crime ring within the "Partnership for New York City" (PNYC), and are behind the pandemic's creation, media persuasions, vaccination preparations, and health official promotions.

"David Rockefeller's trust, that engages several powerful partners on Wall Street, including media moguls Ruppert Murdock, Morton Zuckerman, Thomas Glocer, and former Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Jerry Speyer, are implicated in advancing global genocide," Dr. Horowitz wrote to FBI directors.

Affidavit here:
http://www.fluscam.com/Affidavit.html

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[Sep 19,2009 10:34pm - ArilliusBM ""]
Just last sunday Rockefeller Investment's CEO shot and "killed" himself. And it happened to take place in Dartmouth, MA.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE58E5RT20090915

Call me a conspiracy theorist, call me whatever you want, but I've been following this shit for months. It is EXTREMELY sketchy
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[Sep 19,2009 10:44pm - Pires ""]
So will the swine flu vaccine make me a zombie? Like a REAL zombie? I hope so. Because if not, everyone is bitching for nothing. Don't get the fucking shot. That simple. And if you want it, get it. That simple.

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