the douche talks: President Bush to speak at 9:30am[views:12942][posts:140]_________________________________ [Dec 1,2005 12:46pm - soloman ""] this is worth reading. It's not gonna change your ideology, but it gives insight into why conservatives actually call Michael Moore a liar. Its much more than simply "I dont like what he says so he's lying." Check it. http://www.davekopel.org/terror/59Deceits.pdf |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 1,2005 1:44pm - HailTheLeaf ""] really? I thought F/911 was right on the money |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 1,2005 2:41pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] HailTheLeaf said:I wasn't trying to get the quote right, didn't want to completely rip it off..and mine works better anyways sure it does and one day being unemployed will work out for you |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 1,2005 5:32pm - anonymous ""] HailTheLeaf said:I wasn't trying to get the quote right, didn't want to completely rip it off..and mine works better anyways pla·gia·rize ( P ) Pronunciation Key (plj-rz) v. pla·gia·rized, pla·gia·riz·ing, pla·gia·riz·es v. tr. To use and pass off (the ideas or writings of another) as one's own. To appropriate for use as one's own passages or ideas from (another). |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 1,2005 7:27pm - HailTheLeaf ""] whiskey_weed_and_women said: sure it does and one day being unemployed will work out for you at least I didn't pee in a cup for best buy... |
| __________________________________ [Dec 1,2005 9:21pm - wade nli ""] DreamingInExile said:oooooooooook... does anyone know what his point was? I heard him reitterate EVERYTHING he's been saying for MONTHS... Why was he elected again? because of: fucking ignorant anuses that shouldn't vote anyway (go back to watching Entertainment Tonight, eat McDonald's and shut the fuck up!) AND (most critically): a excruciatingly weak Democrat candidate. |
| ________________________________________________ [Dec 1,2005 11:55pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] HailTheLeaf said:whiskey_weed_and_women said: sure it does and one day being unemployed will work out for you at least I didn't pee in a cup for best buy... yeah my store discount and 10.25 an hour to start makes me really wish i didnt pee in a cup |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 12:02am - KeithMutiny ""] i missed it, what stupid shit did he say this time. and why the fuck is he going on at that time of the morning anyway when all the people that pay for his stupid fucking war are too busy working for fuel. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 1:26am - anonymous ""] george bush is a patriot and a great american,i'm honored to call a man of his calibur"commander in chief" i've prospered during his 2 terms and things are looking alot better than they were after 9/11 |
| __________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 1:48am - Al_Ravage ""] I read the adumbration of "the plan" in the paper today...brilliant...complete and utter nonsense...just recycled and dilluted clap trap from the press releases of the last 2 years organized in doggy-treat sized bites which are guarnteed to shut up the idiotic American press just in time for the mid-term elections... as Yackoff Smirnoff once used to say "what a con-tree" |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 7:58am - KeithMutiny ""] anonymous said:george bush is a patriot and a great american,i'm honored to call a man of his calibur"commander in chief" i've prospered during his 2 terms and things are looking alot better than they were after 9/11 i really hope your joking. and if you not, you must come from a wealthy family, because there is no such thing as working class that has prospered from that douchebag. When i can ask mom and dad for an allowance every week, i'll agree with your statement. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 8:20am - the_reverend ""] mr ravage just double the number of americans who have read the document. I would read it, but I would rather try to keep coloring in coloring books. |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 8:40am - anonymous ""] KeithMutiny said:anonymous said:george bush is a patriot and a great american,i'm honored to call a man of his calibur"commander in chief" i've prospered during his 2 terms and things are looking alot better than they were after 9/11 i really hope your joking. and if you not, you must come from a wealthy family, because there is no such thing as working class that has prospered from that douchebag. When i can ask mom and dad for an allowance every week, i'll agree with your statement. i am ablue collar guy and yes ive prospered since bush took the reigns and the reason why is because i get off my ass grind my teeth and work real fucking hard instead of pissing and moaning and finding fault with others ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE POSTED IN THIS THREAD ARE IN DIRE NEED OF A "HOLIDAY IN CAMBODIA" SEE HOW MUCH SHIT YOU TALK THEN! |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 8:42am - anonymous ""] the fact you spoiled brats sit at home in the lap of luxury with opportunity all around you and you complain about it and make excuses is digusting,GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING! LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT! |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 8:43am - anonymous ""] you are whats wrong with our country not george bush |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 8:44am - anonymous ""] piss off |
| __________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 9:32am - dyingmuse ""] OHH BOY, THIS COULD GET UGLY! I agree guys, sorry! Proud to be a republican! ...And Moore really is a fat, pompus, lying, pretentious pig who should die. ...And you all just follow him like sheep, blindly! He has gone on record saying that the movie was "based" on facts that were twisted around. Fuck him! If people want handouts move to sweden, otherwish shut the fuck up. Cause, frankly I am sick of paying my hard earned tax dollars on democratic funding for lazy usless people! Get a job...it's what you make of it! |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 10:00am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] Exactly, I'm sick of my hardearned tax dollars going to fund lazy fucking schoolchildren (you just started kindergarten? GET A FUCKING JOB YOU LEECH), welfare queen highways, the faggot military, and totally gaytarded student loans. The fact is, that whole welfare queen stereotype is a lie and most people on government assistance are on it for less than a year. Pure and simple, the welfare system is a safety net designed to help people get by between jobs. If the net wasn't there we'd have mass migrations and starvation deaths like those during the Great Depression during every recession. Think about it this way, if you've ever been on unemployment, had student loans, gone to public school, driven on a highway, used a library, or walked through a public park you should shut your fucking mouth about lazy useless people getting "handouts." |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 10:15am - dyingmuse ""] UMM, excuse me...."UNEMPLOYMENT" comes out of "our" money. Every year "we" as the "WORKER" pay out a portion of "our" paychecks each week, as does our "employer". PERIOD!!!!!! unemployment has nothing to do with what I am talking about. Nor does schools idiot, that is mostly town money(taxes) anyway! And not children you fucking fucktard! I am talking about street bums, fucking lazy people taking advantage of the system! people that stay home all day and suck off my fucking money! People on ssi, section 8 and Welfare you fucking moron! You are wasting my time and offending me with your stupidity! LEARN YOUR FACTS FIRST BEFORE YOU TRY TO ATTACK ME WITH YOUR UNINTELLIGENT BABBLE and are you going to "shut my fucking mouth"? bring it! |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 10:24am - dyingmuse ""] ohh and this got ugly, as i said! Does bobmorony work for a living? How old are you? ...And I am not talking about a fucking job at Mcdonalds to pay the bandrent. I am talking about supporting a family, rent, truckpayments normal bills. after I pay all my bills, I will tell ya, I don't have room for these fucking deductions out of my paycheck to handout to fucking usless people taking my air! |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 10:33am - the_reverend ""] sorry dan, but unemployment is a social program. this is one that you have used. you also live in a comunist state (taxachusettes) before you argue, you should compare mass DOR month reports: http://www.dor.state.ma.us/stats/RevRpt/index.htm with the monthly expenses of the government in the budget for mass http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/seslaw05/sl050045.htm take a look at the line items for unemployment in the budget.. holy cow! |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 10:35am - the_reverend ""] I pay some mass state taxes (a few thousand a year after my non-resident status is put in) so I pay attention where my $$ is going. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 10:36am - succubus ""] [Dec 2,2005 8:42am - anonymous ] GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING! LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT! ^^^^^ I agree I didn't read all the posts but just reading that i agree 100% |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 10:40am - dyingmuse ""] Sorry guys I just got a bit heated there. No biggie! And nothing personal(unless you want it) Bob. Playing with my money, is like playing with my emotions! |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 10:43am - the_reverend ""] you also only like bush/republicans so that thrash metal bands that you like from the 80's have more material to write about in the 00's. what were they going to write about in the 90's? how good their tech stocks were doing? bush brings them terrorism, fear, nuclear war, missles, bombs, war, and a plague of locust. it saddens me when people claime to love a religious zealot who because he's not going to "spend so much of my hard earned money" when the facts are clear that bush has don't nothing at all but increase the tax burden for our children. he has at every single turn pushed congress, proposed laws, and made executive orders that spend more and more money. I really hope that you cash your check each week and think "man.. I'm sure glad that we are attacking iraq. even though I know that the money they spend there if spent on pre-school across the country, would have put 5,389 kids from HAVERHILL MASS ALONE through pre-school. man, thank you george bush. now let's make out!" |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 10:47am - the_reverend ""] I would honestly vote for a true republican. but all the elephants I have know have don't the exact opposite from their party's core beliefs. regans, king bush I, and prince bush have not once decreased the size of government. they reduce the tax burden on the most wealthy of persons. and increase the size and expenses of the government. sorry, but that is not a republican. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 10:48am - the_reverend ""] oh and just to tell you, the war in iraq has cost just the town of haverhill mass, about 40million in tax dollars (population wise). what could haverhill mass have done with that money? maybe fix up that horrible park in the middle of town. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 11:13am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] dyingmuse said:Sorry guys I just got a bit heated there. No biggie! And nothing personal(unless you want it) Bob. Playing with my money, is like playing with my emotions! Nothing personal on this side, I'm a supporter of a far smaller government and just think that the welfare system is a necessary evil of modern society. Earlier communities didn't need the system because neighbors trusted and helped each other when problems arose. Now people are so cowed by media instilled fear that they barely know the people they live around and have to rely on the government for assistance. Section 8 is a great idea in theory, but it creates the problem of concentrating large numbers of one economic class in one area. In these communities, which are usually far more close knit than most modern communities, individual income is too low to assist neighbors or family outside of the immediate family which increases dependence on the government. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 11:29am - HailTheLeaf ""] dyingmuse said:OHH BOY, THIS COULD GET UGLY! I agree guys, sorry! Proud to be a republican! ...And Moore really is a fat, pompus, lying, pretentious pig who should die. ...And you all just follow him like sheep, blindly! He has gone on record saying that the movie was "based" on facts that were twisted around. Fuck him! If people want handouts move to sweden, otherwish shut the fuck up. Cause, frankly I am sick of paying my hard earned tax dollars on democratic funding for lazy usless people! Get a job...it's what you make of it! You're one of those blindly patriotic assholes who is ok with the government spending more money to kill people than help them, aren't ya? You're ok with your tax dollars being used to napalm civilians in Iraq, but against helping out your fellow man when they are in need. Fuck you. Taxes are supposed to take care of US, like when a hurricane hits, not be used to illegally occupy another country that's never harmed us so Bush's buddies can add to their bank accounts. |
| _________________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 11:32am - GoatOfCatalyst ""] anonymous said:you are whats wrong with our country not george bush I'll fuck your mouth. Hail Saddam. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 11:36am - HailTheLeaf ""] BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:dyingmuse said:Sorry guys I just got a bit heated there. No biggie! And nothing personal(unless you want it) Bob. Playing with my money, is like playing with my emotions! Nothing personal on this side, I'm a supporter of a far smaller government and just think that the welfare system is a necessary evil of modern society. Earlier communities didn't need the system because neighbors trusted and helped each other when problems arose. Now people are so cowed by media instilled fear that they barely know the people they live around and have to rely on the government for assistance. Section 8 is a great idea in theory, but it creates the problem of concentrating large numbers of one economic class in one area. In these communities, which are usually far more close knit than most modern communities, individual income is too low to assist neighbors or family outside of the immediate family which increases dependence on the government. How can you support small government and support Bush? The government is more bloated with unnessesary crap than ever right now, is is wasting more of your hard earned money right now...killing people. how does this benefit anyone in any way? It doesn't unless you're one of the corporations in on it. |
| ______________________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 11:40am - BobNOMAAMRooney nli ""] HailTheLeaf said:BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:dyingmuse said:Sorry guys I just got a bit heated there. No biggie! And nothing personal(unless you want it) Bob. Playing with my money, is like playing with my emotions! Nothing personal on this side, I'm a supporter of a far smaller government and just think that the welfare system is a necessary evil of modern society. Earlier communities didn't need the system because neighbors trusted and helped each other when problems arose. Now people are so cowed by media instilled fear that they barely know the people they live around and have to rely on the government for assistance. Section 8 is a great idea in theory, but it creates the problem of concentrating large numbers of one economic class in one area. In these communities, which are usually far more close knit than most modern communities, individual income is too low to assist neighbors or family outside of the immediate family which increases dependence on the government. How can you support small government and support Bush? The government is more bloated with unnessesary crap than ever right now, is is wasting more of your hard earned money right now...killing people. how does this benefit anyone in any way? It doesn't unless you're one of the corporations in on it. I don't support Bush. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 11:42am - the_reverend ""] sniff.. no one quotes me ever. |
| __________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 11:43am - succubus ""] Dec 2,2005 11:42am - the_reverend] sniff.. no one quotes me ever. You're the cutest thing ever, esp when you "Sniff" |
| _________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 11:50am - soloman ""] Agreed, the bush administration spends way too much. Would you really vote for a true republican though? I think a true republican would've cut spending by now, but he'd do it by pushing for private education and cutting public, as well as cutting more welfare type programs. He would not cut spending by cutting into the military or by changing the current foreign policy. |
| ______________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 11:58am - the_reverend ""] that's why I'm a centralist libertarian or whatever that test said I was. |
| _________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 12:32pm - soloman ""] oooh a test eh. Can u post the link? i wanna find out what i am. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 12:33pm - HailTheLeaf ""] there's a test? |
| ___________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 12:55pm - dyingmuse ""] ha ha ha , you are talking to me? ha ha ha so now you know it all huh? Mother fucker first of all, I never said anything about supporting the war, but if you must ask...I do indeed support the war. Homeland security, to me seems a bit more important. Now we could go back and forth for 23 years, but I will assure you that it will never end...we see differently. you are another one who knows nothing about politics. What the fuck does being a republican; or a bush/war supporter have to do with a fucking hurricane? I would rather blow up fucking camel fuckers than hand out my money to the lazy undeserving fucking free loaders that we are talking about along with the illegals from Mexico, and any other shitbag country. and by the way eat a dick!!!! HailTheLeaf said:dyingmuse said:OHH BOY, THIS COULD GET UGLY! I agree guys, sorry! Proud to be a republican! ...And Moore really is a fat, pompus, lying, pretentious pig who should die. ...And you all just follow him like sheep, blindly! He has gone on record saying that the movie was "based" on facts that were twisted around. Fuck him! If people want handouts move to sweden, otherwish shut the fuck up. Cause, frankly I am sick of paying my hard earned tax dollars on democratic funding for lazy usless people! Get a job...it's what you make of it! You're one of those blindly patriotic assholes who is ok with the government spending more money to kill people than help them, aren't ya? You're ok with your tax dollars being used to napalm civilians in Iraq, but against helping out your fellow man when they are in need. Fuck you. Taxes are supposed to take care of US, like when a hurricane hits, not be used to illegally occupy another country that's never harmed us so Bush's buddies can add to their bank accounts. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 1:04pm - the_reverend ""] right... since there so far has been zero connection to iraq and homeland security. in fact, the places we should attack who do have "the bomb" turn out to be the other 2 points in the axis of evil that we aren't and won't do anything about. but hey, if you think blowing up 40,000 women and children helps you feel safer, then I guess you think that your life is worth more than theirs. test one http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html http://www.politicalcompass.org/ I can out centralist libertarian on both. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 1:35pm - HailTheLeaf ""] dyingmuse said:you are another one who knows nothing about politics. What the fuck does being a republican; or a bush/war supporter have to do with a fucking hurricane? wow, I have to explain this? U.S. troops are in Iraq chasing imaginary bad guys instead of helping with disasters here at home. People were sitting on their roof for days without food or water and bodies were floating by, but winning the "war on whatever it is today" must be more important than helping American citizens. And what the fuck does Iraq have to do with terrorism? THEY'VE NEVER BOMBED US. |
| ________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 1:37pm - soloman ""] i came out libertarian on both. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 1:45pm - the_reverend ""] want to move up here to NH, buy some legal drugs and guns? |
| ________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 2:00pm - soloman ""] I'm sure you don't believe the only way a foreign country can have something to do with terrorism is by bombing us. |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 2:04pm - HailTheLeaf ""] hahaha, liberal, there's a shock... |
| ____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 2:11pm - HailTheLeaf ""] soloman said:I'm sure you don't believe the only way a foreign country can have something to do with terrorism is by bombing us. you're right, but the point is there was no reason to go in there. We've turned Iraq into a new terrorist breeding ground by occupying it, if we'd left it alone we'd all be alot safer. And if we changed our foreign policy we wouldn't have to worry about anyone bombing us. If the U.S. would stop trying to steal the remaining resources on the planet, and stop ethnically clensing countries that aren't white and christian, we'd all be better off. |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 2:18pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] dyingmuse said:ha ha ha , you are talking to me? ha ha ha so now you know it all huh? Mother fucker first of all, I never said anything about supporting the war, but if you must ask...I do indeed support the war. Homeland security, to me seems a bit more important. Now we could go back and forth for 23 years, but I will assure you that it will never end...we see differently. you are another one who knows nothing about politics. What the fuck does being a republican; or a bush/war supporter have to do with a fucking hurricane? I would rather blow up fucking camel fuckers than hand out my money to the lazy undeserving fucking free loaders that we are talking about along with the illegals from Mexico, and any other shitbag country. and by the way eat a dick!!!! HailTheLeaf said:dyingmuse said:OHH BOY, THIS COULD GET UGLY! I agree guys, sorry! Proud to be a republican! ...And Moore really is a fat, pompus, lying, pretentious pig who should die. ...And you all just follow him like sheep, blindly! He has gone on record saying that the movie was "based" on facts that were twisted around. Fuck him! If people want handouts move to sweden, otherwish shut the fuck up. Cause, frankly I am sick of paying my hard earned tax dollars on democratic funding for lazy usless people! Get a job...it's what you make of it! You're one of those blindly patriotic assholes who is ok with the government spending more money to kill people than help them, aren't ya? You're ok with your tax dollars being used to napalm civilians in Iraq, but against helping out your fellow man when they are in need. Fuck you. Taxes are supposed to take care of US, like when a hurricane hits, not be used to illegally occupy another country that's never harmed us so Bush's buddies can add to their bank accounts. hey dan, my mother was on section8 while i was growing and unemployment helped me get thru college and earn a cert. also samica doesnt need shit from you. just cause you have no idea what you're talking about, people who actually have to be in those programs dont wanna be and get off of them the fastest they can. and next time you wanna tell a female to eat a dick dont be surpise if someone knocks you on your fucking ass. |
| ________________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 2:21pm - GoatOfCatalyst ""] Death to the West. Hail Saddam. |
| _____________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 2:22pm - the_reverend ""] I tell carina to eat a dick all the time. and usually she does. good girl. |
| _______________________________________________ [Dec 2,2005 2:23pm - whiskey_weed_and_women ""] the_reverend said:I tell carina to eat a dick all the time. and usually she does. good girl. yeah thats a lil different and you know it, but hey you got quoted |