Trivium's Matt Heafy reveals new EXTREME BLACK METAL project[views:44404][posts:148]____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 1:38pm - arilliusbm ""] http://www.metalinjection.net/exclusive-2/...ls-extreme-black-metal-side-project GONNA BE AWESOME BROS |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 1:38pm - Burnsy ""] I LOVE EXTREME BLACK METAL! IT'S THE BEST KIND!!! =) |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 1:40pm - trioxin_245 ""] I clicked link, saw pic, lol'd, then made this face [img] |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 1:41pm - Alx_Casket ""] [img] |
| ___________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 2:01pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] he should do a sludge metal project instead with thurston moore |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 2:43pm - KEVORD ""] The lack of Satan in Black Metal these days is astonishing. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 2:46pm - Burnsy ""] I laud the lack of Satan. Shit's silly as fuck. |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 2:47pm - ark in ur base ""] I EXPECT GOOD THINGS. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 2:50pm - arilliusbm ""] How about the overabundance of black metal bands that sing about Satan but don't practice any form of Satanism or dabble with the occult? My take on lyrical content or image: practice what you preach or GTFO. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 2:53pm - Spence ""] Their first ever show will be at Winter is Coming. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 2:55pm - narkybark ""] this kid Spence is going places. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 2:58pm - Alx_Casket ""] I agree with aril. |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 3:00pm - ark in ur base ""] and if a band does not preach...practice anyway |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 3:18pm - narkybark ""] [img] |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 3:19pm - ark in ur base ""] it's okay to not practice what you preach but whatever you do DON'T BREAK THE OATH |
| __________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:12pm - Eli_hhcb ""] super ghey |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:20pm - amorok666 ""] What the fuck is a heafy? |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:21pm - arilliusbm ""] Only still having his personal phone number is real. Who wants to prank him?? |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:23pm - amorok666 ""] ME! |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:28pm - chernobyl ""] Yes...Have OP call him. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:30pm - KEVORD ""] arilliusbm said:Only still having his personal phone number is real. Who wants to see if he needs band members?? |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:42pm - DYA is WUT ""] Burnsy said:I laud the lack of Satan. Shit's silly as fuck. pfft No Satan, no kvlt. Know Satan, know kvlt. Also, I love how he came up with a really creative name like "Mrityu" instead of just half-assed jumbling his dayjob band's name. OH, WAIT |
| ___________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:44pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] IMO - anyone who worships satan is just as much of a fucking idiot as those who worship christ/god. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:46pm - Burnsy ""] Satan is a faggot. God is a faggot. Magic doesn't exist. Believing it exists is asinine and destructive to the advancement of our species. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:48pm - Alx_Casket ""] Yeah. Christians created Satan, noobs. See you on the Enterprise, burnsy. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:48pm - KEVORD ""] Black Metal = Satan. Metal is a work. Don't break kayfabe. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:51pm - DYA is WUT ""] Such charmingly simplistic understandings of occultings ITT. |
| ___________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:53pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] DYA%20is%20WUT said:I Want to Kill Everyone, Satan is Good, Satan is Our Pal ITT. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:53pm - Spence ""] Am I the only one who honestly can't imagine this douchebag listening to bands like Emperor, Darkthrone, etc. like he says? Hell I can't even imagine him listening to anything more extreme than Children of Bodom and the last At The Gates album - let alone black metal. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:54pm - KEVORD ""] I love a Lime Emperor on a hot summer day. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:56pm - DYA is WUT ""] FuckIsMySignature said: DYA%20is%20WUT said:"Kill your mother rape your dog" music ITT. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:57pm - KEVORD ""] Spence said: lime Emperor. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:58pm - Spence ""] >makes spelling error >edits it, literally about 20 seconds after the post >still gets noticed >Fuuuu |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 4:59pm - KEVORD ""] Lime Emperor made me lol. You should have left it. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:03pm - DYA is WUT ""] I like a Burzum Rickey now and again. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:05pm - arilliusbm ""] I don't see anyone ITT being active in occult practices. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:06pm - DYA is WUT ""] arilliusbm said:I don't see anyone ITT being active in occult practices. Occult practices: usually practiced openly |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:07pm - arilliusbm ""] Also, I will upload his business card image from 2001. Assuming his cellphone number is the same. Could be a long shot but it's at least worth a shot. Ima Alude this bitch cuz DYA is cell phone police nazi. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:11pm - arilliusbm ""] DYA%20is%20WUT said: arilliusbm said:I don't see anyone ITT being active in occult practices. Occult practices: usually practiced openly Oh yea? Says who? I did all of mine in the privacy of my own home or outside by myself. I don't do that shit anymore. The last time I did was with Chris 2 years ago. I'm not a Satanist, nor are you. I do have my own set of beliefs now, but nothing to do with any Abrahamic nonsense or self-worship. Those who never dabbled in the occult and talk down on it.... Never dabbled in the occult. Start dabbling faggts. |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:12pm - ark in ur base ""] DYA%20is%20WUT said: arilliusbm said:I don't see anyone ITT being active in occult practices. Occult practices: usually practiced openly these chestnuts are so old. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:13pm - DYA is WUT ""] arilliusbm said: DYA%20is%20WUT said: arilliusbm said:I don't see anyone ITT being active in occult practices. Occult practices: usually practiced openly Oh yea? Says who? I did all of mine in the privacy of my own home or outside by myself. I don't do that shit anymore. The last time I did was with Chris 2 years ago. I'm not a Satanist, nor are you. I do have my own set of beliefs now, but nothing to do with any Abrahamic nonsense or self-worship. Those who never dabbled in the occult and talk down on it.... Never dabbled in the occult. Start dabbling faggts. The joke: You very nearly got it. |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:13pm - ark in ur base ""] LOL |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:14pm - quintessence ""] Yeah cause all death metal bands should actually disembowel people. heh |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:15pm - arilliusbm ""] I'm in no joking mood. This is some bad news for black metal and only reaffirms my hatred for the sad, sad genre it has become. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:15pm - chernobyl ""] Go to Hockomock to believe, you won't. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:19pm - arilliusbm ""] quintessence said:Yeah cause all death metal bands should actually disembowel people. heh Well, yea. Death metal among others, are excluded. My notion goes towards black metal only. I don't see an appeal in a band that professes their love for Satan on stage, then goes home and does nothing about it. Sorry.. That's like a Priest preaching about God's love for all people and then going home and raping kids, ruining their lives. ONE IN THE SAME. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:19pm - Alx_Casket ""] With the aril logic, you must also dabble in christianity to talk shit about it. Reading history tells me all i need to know. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:20pm - Burnsy ""] Yah. Black metal was doing okay before this thread. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:20pm - arilliusbm ""] Which is why TWIGS AND BERRIES METAL > "BLACK METAL" |
| ______________________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:22pm - ark in the principal's office ""] 1) what is "occult?" 2) u mad about trivium bro? 3) seriously we should discuss these issues in person. come to my office. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:22pm - arilliusbm ""] Alx_Casket said:With the aril logic, you must also dabble in christianity to talk shit about it. Reading history tells me all i need to know. Why, do you want me to start posting anti-semitic comments? I never dabbled in Judaism and can easily talk shit about it. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:23pm - KEVORD ""] ITT: Aril joins Inverticrux. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:24pm - triviark ""] personally i'm pretty damn upset that matt heafy might put trivium to the wayside to start this new black metal project. they were really on the way to becoming the next metallica and guns & roses combined. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:25pm - Alx_Casket ""] So you just refuted your original point that you must dabble in order to form an opinion on it. K |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:26pm - arilliusbm ""] 1) what is "occult?"- There is no need to ask that question when you already know the answer. 2) u mad about trivium bro? -Yes, Matt Heafy is a fag and always has been. 3) seriously we should discuss these issues in person. come to my office. -No, thanks. I don't openly talk about my beliefs. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:28pm - Alx_Casket ""] Don't sing "Come to my window" unless you MEAN IT, bro. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:28pm - chernobyl ""] Alx and Burnsy have a point, you are contradicting yourself by saying you need to dabble in something to talk shit about it. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:29pm - arilliusbm ""] No, now you're putting words in my mouth. You can have all the opinions you want on it. All I recommend is expanding your fucking horizons, you Zionist. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:33pm - arilliusbm ""] Start Dabbling. If you dabble you can double dabble and doodle your diddle. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:33pm - chernobyl ""] arilliusbm said:How about the overabundance of black metal bands that sing about Satan but don't practice any form of Satanism or dabble with the occult? My take on lyrical content or image: practice what you preach or GTFO. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:33pm - chernobyl ""] arilliusbm said:I don't see anyone ITT being active in occult practices. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:34pm - arilliusbm ""] ^ yea. Like I said, you can have opinions on it. Nothing is stopping you from experimenting other than yourself. If a band sings about Satan and doesn't practice what they preach, then said band is POSING. Not that hard to grasp you jewbags. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:35pm - Burnsy ""] I didn't say anything about dabbling. I just think religious beliefs of any kind are detrimental to humanity. And Satanism is fucking dumb, especially lavey. Fuck that noise. Black metal for me is just fine without Satan, as long as it's seething with hate. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:36pm - Alx_Casket ""] Gtfo in the time machine you rode in on! |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:38pm - arilliusbm ""] Lol.sorry about throwing jewish stuff in there. I <3 the fact that you are all jewish now. I need to dabble. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:40pm - Alx_Casket ""] Fucking timelords, you people make me sick. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:41pm - amorok666 ""] Still waiting on that phone number bro.... |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:41pm - chernobyl ""] arilliusbm said:^ yea. Like I said, you can have opinions on it. Nothing is stopping you from experimenting other than yourself. If a band sings about Satan and doesn't practice what they preach, then said band is POSING. Not that hard to grasp you jewbags. Yeah but who said that anyone was doing this? Burnsy just said he doesn't care much for satanic stuff. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:43pm - amorok666 ""] Also has anyone else not even clicked the link in the op? I just wanna call this guy and accuse him of fucking my wife. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:44pm - arilliusbm ""] amorok666 said:Still waiting on that phone number bro.... I will be home in about two hours and post the photo. Its on my comp. |
| _____________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:45pm - ark in ur windtrap ""] arilliusbm said:1) what is "occult?"- There is no need to ask that question when you already know the answer. 2) u mad about trivium bro? -Yes, Matt Heafy is a fag and always has been. 3) seriously we should discuss these issues in person. come to my office. -No, thanks. I don't openly talk about my beliefs. so i should dabble in pre-renaissance alchemy or wicca? not sure if serious... 13 years after the "death of a genre" and the only unifying quality it has, or even has ever had, was the sound and execution. certainly not lyrical themes like paganism, satanism, conservatism..bands existed that didn't touch any of that. come on dude, we can talk about occvlt, or how you care what some douche from a band does, you show me mine, i'll show you yours. we could talk about the prescient, ecological, religious, and sociological philosophies explored in dune, but you haven't read it yet. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:48pm - chernobyl ""] amorok666 said:Also has anyone else not even clicked the link in the op? I just wanna call this guy and accuse him of fucking my wife. Do a De Niro from Raging Bull "You fuck my wife?" "did you or did you not fuck my wife?" |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:50pm - KEVORD ""] Satan poser or faggot. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:51pm - arilliusbm ""] Dabble in those all you want, you are your own person and form your own beliefs. And yes, music is MUSIC. But tell that to bands that prance around spreading the word of a belief they don't follow. I myself prefer Escapism and fantasy and human emotion as lyrical content. No care about Dune. I don't read sci-fi anymore like I used to. I read more non-fiction. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:53pm - chernobyl ""] arilliusbm said:Dabble in those all you want, you are your own person and form your own beliefs. And yes, music is MUSIC. But tell that to bands that prance around spreading the word of a belief they don't follow. I myself prefer Escapism and fantasy and human emotion as lyrical content. No care about Dune. I don't read sci-fi anymore like I used to. I read more non-fiction. I agree there are far too many bands that talk about and preach Satanic and occult practices when they don't even know anything about them. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:53pm - Burnsy ""] Cher, no one called me out for being a poser faggot. At least not in this thread. It's not that I'm not that into satanic stuff, I think it's laughable and obnoxious. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:54pm - Alx_Casket ""] OP has blatantly attempted to aril all of us and failed. Where's aril_the_white? |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 5:58pm - chernobyl ""] Burnsy said:Cher, no one called me out for being a poser faggot. At least not in this thread. It's not that I'm not that into satanic stuff, I think it's laughable and obnoxious. I know I wasn't referring about you specifically, aril mentioned bands that do that but I don't think anyone ever mentioned anything about it. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 6:03pm - arilliusbm ""] LOL at everything and everyone except Alx Casket because he never wrong. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 6:05pm - arilliusbm ""] Cherbag, the statement was made because it's blatantly obvious when bands do it. And there are A LOT. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 6:06pm - arilliusbm ""] Also THERES ONLY SO MUXCH YOU CAN TYPE ON A PHONE. YOU COMPUTER USERS HAVE AN ADVANTAGE |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 6:07pm - KEVORD ""] Could you write down who these cool bands are? All I ever see around here are twigs and berries. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 6:08pm - chernobyl ""] arilliusbm said:Cherbag, the statement was made because it's blatantly obvious when bands do it. And there are A LOT. Agreed. Flashin them satans like they know. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 6:10pm - arilliusbm ""] Youre thinking locally? Hahaha, good luck. I'm not opening that can of worms. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 6:12pm - chernobyl ""] Basement shows in Allston get really grim sometimes. |
| _______________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 6:45pm - ark in ur gnosticism ""] he prefers fantasy and escapism but reads non-fiction, doesn't like sf anymore so chooses to miss out on one of the greatest works of modern literature. calls bands posers that don't "practice what they preach" whatever that means. king diamond would be furious. if it's a veiled comment about local bwack metal, my lyrics were about historical themes and man's fate, so i'll be sure to practice that. cares deeply about the fate of his black metals as if it's his own. tells me i can practice any sort of occult potpourri i choose!!!! thanks pal!! doesn't want to talk about beliefs or spirituality in person =[ is an anti-semite but is clearly in league with NATO's zionist agenda. especially with the comment about "if i had to ask, i didn't know the answer." i just got so incredibly aril'd. god dammit james. god damn you. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 7:00pm - chernobyl ""] Aril is life. ARIL IS GOD. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 7:10pm - Alx_Casket ""] Aug 15,2012 6:45pm ark makes first discovery of an already sentient aril, is thoroughly offended as the time-labored aril introduces its erred circular redundancy logic. |
| ___________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 7:28pm - 3012 COSMIC ARIL ""] Alx_Casket said:Aug 15,2012 6:45pm ark makes first discovery of an already sentient aril, is thoroughly offended as the time-labored aril introduces its erred circular redundancy logic. Even in the 30th century, we have the Legion of Arils. In short: OLD NEWS |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 7:29pm - arilliusbm ""] Yea, I dont enjoy reading like I used to. Wanna fight about it? Hahahaha@ calling Dune one of the greatest works of modern lit. Herbert is LOLing. It was always on my list to read but I chose other series instead. I will get around to reading it eventually. no care, otherwise. There is no way around it. if a band sings about a Christian Satan and not the Satan within, they are posing. The logic is not that hard to follow. Not once was it mentioned as a shot at local bands. But if you took it personally with Darkwor, be my guest. I know what your Barkwor lyrics are. You've said it many times before. Caring about black metal is something that's not new. The funny thing is, I don't care about it like I used to, because it continually spirals downward. But yes, there are still gems being released. If you really want to talk about my beliefs or anything else IRL, BE MY GUEST. You are pefectly capable of googling the word "occult" -as is any of us- if you are really that clueless (which I know you're not). You also know my stance on ZOG. Love jews, hate Zionosts. The real question here is why am I laughing at you, getting aril'd? a simple way to cause discussion is to ruffle feathers, beat an idea into someone's head, then have them talk about their stance. Works every time. Alex knows circular logic when he sees it. Think of the political spectrum: the more you go left, the more right you become, and vice versa. Same thing with discussion, and many other things in life. In order to move forward, things must go backwards. Why do I care about Matt Heafy's project? Because it will make better bands who see through bullshit, ultimately making this kid a fool and eat his own hat. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 7:47pm - Garth Algar ""] Nigga just post that damn business card |
| ____________________________ [Aug 15,2012 7:52pm - Uh ""] FuckIsMySignature said:IMO - anyone who worships satan is just as much of a fucking idiot as those who worship christ/god. Burnsy said:Satan is a faggot. God is a faggot. Magic doesn't exist. Believing it exists is asinine and destructive to the advancement of our species. Alx_Casket said:Yeah. Christians created Satan, noobs. See you on the Enterprise, burnsy. If these really aren't troll posts, the lack of basic understanding of the occult here is actually kind of surprising... Not believing in magick is like not believing in math. I guess you can deny it exists but you're still probably using it everyday. |
| _______________________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 7:56pm - ark in ur gnosticism ""] you know we're just razzing each other. i disagree with some of your perspectives on music and you know that. nothing personal about barkwor at all. i remember thorn asking me about the atreus myth in one of our songs, 2am and drunk, wasn't in the state of mind to recite it back, i just said i'll get back to you when i'm at the library. that's the other thing, we're both sarcastic bastards too. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 8:00pm - arilliusbm ""] Alx casket via txt: "you dont look smart, what are you trying to accomplish." I dont post here to look smart. I threw that out years ago. I love watching people point out fallacies in any simple argument. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 8:04pm - chernobyl ""] The new reign of aril begins... |
| ____________________________ [Aug 15,2012 8:10pm - Uh ""] arilliusbm said:I'm in no joking mood. This is some bad news for black metal and only reaffirms my hatred for the sad, sad genre it has become. Viking Crown is the best black metal ever. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 8:12pm - arilliusbm ""] Garth%20Algar said:Nigga just post that damn business card [img] TROLL AWAY. Keep in mind this is from 10+ years ago. It's an older pic, I have to find the actual card again if you want it to not be blurry. |
| _______________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 8:15pm - Hans Moleman ""] Burnsy said:Cher, no one called me out for being a poser faggot. At least not in this thread. It's not that I'm not that into satanic stuff, I think it's laughable and obnoxious. I was saying 'poser faggot.' |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 8:21pm - amorok666 ""] Some Spanish lady answered and couldn't understand what I was talking about. I'll try again later. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 8:23pm - arilliusbm ""] LOL |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 9:00pm - Burnsy ""] Hans%20Moleman said:I was saying 'poser faggot.' ahhhh I see what you did. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 9:07pm - Burnsy ""] Uh said: Not believing in magick is like not believing in math. Oh. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 9:15pm - chernobyl ""] I doubt it is the same number. I'm sure you could just message him on facebook and pretend you need his number for something important. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 10:12pm - Alx_Casket ""] I'm still at practice but i took asecond to come here and see exactly what i expected: aril posting tl;dr and quoting me out of context. Biggest troll in the multiverse, biggest bully on rttp, and a charlatan who dances like a j/k oompa loompa when you call him on his bullshit. |
| _____________________________ [Aug 15,2012 10:13pm - Uh ""] Burnsy said: Uh said: Not believing in magick is like not believing in math. Oh. Kay. Math is gay anyways. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 10:18pm - arilliusbm ""] [QUOTE="Alx_Casket:1317463" - -aril posting tl;dr and quoting me out of context. - Biggest troll in the multiverse, biggest bully on rttp, -charlatan who dances like a j/k oompa loompa when you call him on his bullshit -I love how you said you agreed, then went off on a tanget with your own ego. Discussion is made when simple statements are projected. U mad bro? -wah wah wah, cry me a river. -You don't call anything out other than your point of view, which apparently is fact and that's why everyone loves you in the local music scene. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 10:23pm - arilliusbm ""] Every once in a while one of these threads come along where people ruffle feathers and strike up good points. What's wrong? No body likes reading this shit? Board sucks guys, let's get real. I'mma keep on aril'ing all you queerbags, no care. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 10:43pm - Burnsy ""] Good thread. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 10:58pm - arilliusbm ""] Alex can call me out all he wants. He's probably right, it doesn't matter. I'm done arguing/fake arguing with him. This 2012 year is important.. pressing matters are needed in 2439AD and the machine is going to leave soon. Morals of this thread: Heafy Sux Occult and Satan: Bands either sing about it or don't. Heafy's number: not a good number anymore bullshit arguments with circular logic: rttps discussion fodder. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 11:12pm - Alx_Casket ""] arilliusbm said:Every once in a while one of these threads come along where people ruffle feathers and strike up good points. What's wrong? No body likes reading this shit? Board sucks guys, let's get real. I'mma keep on aril'ing all you queerbags, no care. Still waiting on good points to arise from the aril method of discussion. Moral of this thread: Spence makes better threads than aril. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 11:14pm - posbleak ""] Sometimes Satanic and occult imagery in art is just cool to look at or talk about and people want to use it because it's cool |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 11:16pm - posbleak ""] Whoops Carine Roitfeld does not literally worship Satan, let's throw away Sacrément Inspirée |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 11:21pm - arilliusbm ""] Alx_Casket said: Moral of this thread: Spence makes better threads than aril. Obviously. Why else would I help bring him here to register and post. One step ahead of you, chap. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 11:31pm - Burnsy ""] True moral of the story: Aril likes colons and lists. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 11:33pm - arilliusbm ""] they're the best. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 11:36pm - arilliusbm ""] Burnsy said:colons [img] |
| _________________________________ [Aug 15,2012 11:39pm - Burnsy ""] The joke: you got it. ;-) |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 1:39am - Nightmare ""] arilliusbm said:Alex can call me out all he wants. He's probably right, it doesn't matter. I'm done arguing/fake arguing with him. This 2012 year is important.. pressing matters are needed in 2439AD and the machine is going to leave soon. Morals of this thread: Heafy Sux Occult and Satan: Bands either sing about it or don't. Heafy's number: not a good number anymore bullshit arguments with circular logic: rttps discussion fodder. Why did you have his number anyway? Were you a fan? |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 6:24am - arilliusbm ""] I mwt him at NEMF in 2001. He flew up from Florida and handed out bisiness cards for his new band. |
| ______________________________ [Aug 16,2012 8:25am - Yeti ""] thank you all for reminding me why I feel so reverently about the old ways. listen to Bathory and lament what a person like Quorthon believed in. thankfully he is dead and doesn't have to witness this tomfoolery. |
| ________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 9:34am - Burnsy ""] posbleak said:Whoops Carine Roitfeld does not literally worship Satan, let's throw away Sacrément Inspirée I have no idea what this is but I understand your point. Satanic imagery can most definitely be cool to look at. When it comes to bands though, doing something to look cool or be seen as cool is not something I respect. My personal opinions about the nature of existance aside, I feel like a band that has lyrics about satanism and believes in the philosophy has much more artistic integrity than a band that sings about satanic themes to be edgy or cool. The only exception I can think of is if the band is using satanic themes satirically. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 9:35am - arilliusbm ""] Thank you, Burns. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 9:46am - Chernobyl ""] arilliusbm said:let's get real. I'mma keep on ARIL'ING all you queerbags, no care. THIS. SO COLD! |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 9:49am - Chernobyl ""] ***wrong edit |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 9:51am - dreadkill ""] arilliusbm said:I myself prefer Escapism and fantasy and human emotion as lyrical content. Fantasy as lyrical content is non-hipster. Human emotion as lyrical content is hipster. Conservationist's head is going to explode. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 9:55am - Chernobyl ""] Yeti said:thank you all for reminding me why I feel so reverently about the old ways. listen to Bathory and lament what a person like Quorthon believed in. thankfully he is dead and doesn't have to witness this tomfoolery. The old ways...What about ICP, bro? You like them right? |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 9:57am - dreadkill ""] Say what you like about the tenets of Aril, Dude, at least it's an ethos. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 9:59am - arilliusbm ""] dreadkill said: Conservationist's head is going to explode. Lol'd and yup. I do love me some philisophical lyrics, though. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 16,2012 10:31am - Yeti ""] Chernobyl said: Yeti said:thank you all for reminding me why I feel so reverently about the old ways. listen to Bathory and lament what a person like Quorthon believed in. thankfully he is dead and doesn't have to witness this tomfoolery. The old ways...What about ICP, bro? You like them right? the same sentiment goes for them. only ICP from 1990 - 97 is real. |
| ________________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 10:38am - AndrewBastard ""] Aril'in Mutha Fucking Bouncers 6'2" |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 10:41am - posbleak ""] Burnsy said: posbleak said:Whoops Carine Roitfeld does not literally worship Satan, let's throw away Sacrément Inspirée I have no idea what this is but I understand your point. Satanic imagery can most definitely be cool to look at. When it comes to bands though, doing something to look cool or be seen as cool is not something I respect. My personal opinions about the nature of existance aside, I feel like a band that has lyrics about satanism and believes in the philosophy has much more artistic integrity than a band that sings about satanic themes to be edgy or cool. The only exception I can think of is if the band is using satanic themes satirically. How about a better example? Lars von Trier is not a Satanist nor is he a Christian, but I wouldn't write off the merits or integrity of Antichrist because of that. Roman Polanski is not a Satanist nor is he a Christian, yet Rosemary's Baby still holds up. I guess "looks cool" was oversimplifying it but you can definitely explore those themes with plenty of integrity even if you don't personally subscribe to those beliefs. |
| ______________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 10:47am - trioxin_245 ""] Why is a thread about a guy from TRIVIUM so fucking long? is there really nothing better to talk about people? |
| ____________________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 10:48am - FuckIsMySignature ""] trioxin_245 said:is there really nothing better to talk about people? yes. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 10:50am - Burnsy ""] I can't speak intelligently about any of these examples you're throwing out there haha. And I respect your opinion so I'm not just gonna talk out of my ass. You can speak intelligently on a topic without believing in it obviously. The way this topic got brought up is how bands that use occult/satanic themes use them to seem dark, evil and edgy. Is the position you've taken indicative of you supporting this behavior from musicians? I find it hard to believe you do. Maybe as a musician, I take the medium too seriously. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 10:52am - arilliusbm ""] Themes in literature and movies are not the same when metal bands profess their love for Satan and don't follow through, IMO. If that is the case, Dante would be the ultimate Satanist. Different outputs, different audiences, different eras, different everything. No one is stating bands can't do it. It's just silly. All valid points, but not comparable. |
| _________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 10:56am - Burnsy ""] trioxin_245 said:Why is a thread about a guy from TRIVIUM so fucking long? is there really nothing better to talk about people? No one's talking about Trivium, man. Thread took a tangent for the better in my opinion. Good discussion is good. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 11:14am - posbleak ""] Burnsy said:I can't speak intelligently about any of these examples you're throwing out there haha. And I respect your opinion so I'm not just gonna talk out of my ass. You can speak intelligently on a topic without believing in it obviously. The way this topic got brought up is how bands that use occult/satanic themes use them to seem dark, evil and edgy. Is the position you've taken indicative of you supporting this behavior from musicians? I find it hard to believe you do. Maybe as a musician, I take the medium too seriously. Yeah, I'm no musician, so there's absolutely a disconnect. (You should definitely watch Rosemary's Baby, though, it's awesome.) Was going to use Alice Cooper as an example but he's a bad one since his lyrical content is less "hail Satan!" and more "beware of Satan, he's a total jagoff" To some people, myself included, Satanism in metal is a lot like hedonism in glam rock. It's part of the show and part of the aesthetic and a big part of the performance ~experience~ but we all know that the musicians still go home to their relatively normal lives and probably aren't sacrificing goats in the backyard or having gigantic pansexual glitter orgies every night. I definitely think that actual practicing pagans or Satanists will have more depth to add to the conversation and should be considered and heard when others are using their symbolism. Outsiders co-opting symbolism and rituals from other faiths and cultures is cultural appropriation, after all... |
| _______________________________ [Aug 16,2012 11:46am - ark ""] beliefs warp with perspective. to believe is not to know. using occult themes in art as a vehicle for people to explore, sense, challenge their perspective is absolutely valuable. one can "know" a tenet of beliefs without "believing" it to be truth. this can be extremely oversimplified and bastardized by the artist who could portray such themes in a less than accurate or even a superficial light and so many are guilty of it. but i think that a proper exploration of themes can be made by an artist, without inferring anything about the artist's true beliefs. |
| _______________________________ [Aug 16,2012 11:51am - ark ""] and remember that the earliest bands using satanic imagery were not doing it to be "satanic" but anti-christian and anti-dogmatic. purely as a provocation to social norms. these weren't satanists. |
| _____________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 11:53am - arilliusbm ""] Obviously. Shock value must be taken into consideration. |
| _________________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 12:55pm - DestroyYouAlot ""] Oversimplification is oversimplified. Are we talking about Satan as a concept? An archetype? A literal fallen angel? A different entity (or entities) under the same name? Congealed psychic energy given shape? A philosophy? Or just a figurehead for simple opposition? Are any/all of these things mutually exclusive? And what serious occultist talks about them explicitly on a fucking message board without a healthy degree of misdirection? Besides, black-and-white literal thinking is for Abrahamic monotheists. If your concept of a thing is that limited, I don't know what to tell you. |
| ___________________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 1:22pm - FuckIsMySignature ""] keep things and stuff out of black metal |
| ______________________________ [Aug 16,2012 1:25pm - Yeti ""] why reinvent the wheel? quit your whining, put on your spikes and paint, grab a battleaxe and shriek about Satan. |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 1:33pm - arilliusbm ""] Let's all be Beelze. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 1:43pm - chernobyl ""] Yeti said:why reinvent the wheel? quit your whining, put on your spikes and paint, grab a battleaxe and shriek about Satan. What about ICP? |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 1:48pm - trioxin245 ""] ITT: black metal is even gayer than I thought |
| ____________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 1:56pm - arilliusbm ""] Thread has delivered and lold. |
| ___________________________________ [Aug 16,2012 2:00pm - chernobyl ""] [img] |
| ______________________________ [Aug 16,2012 3:16pm - Yeti ""] chernobyl said: Yeti said:why reinvent the wheel? quit your whining, put on your spikes and paint, grab a battleaxe and shriek about Satan. What about ICP? i guess you can throw an ICP or two in there. |